SYRIATV — broadcast 20260920 190000 UTC 459 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:11] and that he was only [00:00:16] about his story. [00:00:29] episode in a series [00:00:35] How did you meet Tahin? To [00:00:38] imagine that this will Rossello? It was a coincidence. I took him to Rossello's house. [00:00:42] Only. [00:00:47] in the Egyptian army. And what did you do there? We talked about Eichmann's [00:00:50] case. [00:00:53] and comes to gossip, insults And what do you know about not have more information than [00:00:54] meaning he is [00:00:55] that officer, insults Eichmann? He was responsible for crimes [00:00:58] committed against Jews. [00:01:00] to this myth. Even from And Israel [00:01:01] arrested him. [00:01:08] who wrote with a kind be composed of combining many Cohen told me that Syria? Don't he was interested in finding other assistants for Eichmann who live here in [00:01:11] Damascus. And what is Rossello's connection [00:01:15] to the matter? No, he is a German living in [00:01:19] Damascus. He is a good person, nothing more, nothing [00:01:22] less. And did you know that his real name is Rad [00:01:26] Maichr and that he was a former Nazi officer? [00:01:30] No, never, [00:01:32] case. The sir. [00:01:34] Mr. Cohen, [00:01:36] was born in tell me now, were you looking for Louis [00:01:40] Brunner in Damascus or were you looking for [00:01:43] something else? [00:01:48] moved to live in [00:02:10] May 11th, 1960, [00:02:12] Mossad launched a secret operation in Buenos [00:02:16] Aires. The goal was to bring the most [00:02:19] wanted Nazi alive. [00:02:23] Adolf Eichmann, [00:02:30] head of the Nazi SS [00:02:34] of his acquaintances from the Syrian officers organization, responsible for the extermination of thousands of Jews during [00:02:37] World War [00:02:38] II. [00:02:47] The group arrived in Argentina, and after [00:02:51] surveillance and investigation, the bird entered [00:02:54] the cage. [00:02:59] And Eichmann was in the hands of the Mossad, and then they flew [00:03:03] with their precious catch to Tel [00:03:06] them for decades, Aviv. the Syrian who lives abroad [00:03:12] realized who sent this The operation had a terrifying impact on those involved Nazis, especially [00:03:16] since Israel had prepared a list to pursue [00:03:21] from Buenos Aires and bring them in. At the top of the [00:03:24] Nazi list was a mysterious name. The [00:03:27] Mossad followed him for more than four [00:03:30] decades continuously. Lois Brunner, Eichmann's [00:03:34] assistant and right hand, the Nazi [00:03:36] officer who managed to escape from all [00:03:40] of a special unit in his pursuers. In the early sixties, [00:03:43] all information reaching Israel indicated [00:03:48] places around the world. that Brunner was now hiding in [00:03:49] Damascus. [00:03:59] Thank God and with His help. And with His help, the [00:04:02] United Arab [00:04:05] where there is a large community of Republic [00:04:05] was established [00:04:11] today. At the same time, the Mossad was preparing to carry out [00:04:14] a secret operation that would begin [00:04:17] shortly, especially after Nasser succeeded [00:04:20] in annexing Syria to Egypt. Therefore, the [00:04:24] Mossad decided to send a spy with special [00:04:27] specifications who would infiltrate the United Arab [00:04:30] Republic. [00:04:38] greater than their The Mossad began working on recruiting a new Jewish Arab spy [00:04:41] who had just arrived in Israel from [00:04:44] Egypt. He was from the city of [00:04:47] Alexandria, where he was born and raised. [00:04:51] His name is Eliyahu Cohen, [00:04:54] the spy who would be known as Eli Cohen, [00:04:58] The spy started the Mossad spy. The most famous in its history [00:05:01] will embark on [00:05:04] he met in a secret mission to [00:05:05] Damascus. [00:05:09] And who soon introduced him to He was the only [00:05:12] Israeli who was caught as a spy [00:05:16] and executed. This means that he is one of a kind [00:05:19] and has a heroic case [00:05:23] many legends are told [00:05:28] So I think it's [00:05:30] difficult to make a [00:05:34] real judgment, especially with the gap between [00:05:36] legend and reality, unless [00:05:40] it is available, and it will probably not be available. [00:05:44] Documented evidence from both sides. [00:05:47] And it is difficult to [00:05:50] happen anytime [00:05:52] soon. [00:05:58] He continued Eli Cohen is a purely [00:06:01] Israeli operation, meaning he was made a superhero and special, [00:06:07] unique. Of course, many factors contributed [00:06:12] the Syrian side, [00:06:15] they made him a legend, meaning he was a very dangerous spy [00:06:18] and that the Syrian intelligence managed to finally arrest [00:06:22] him. The truth is, of course, they arrested him, and this is [00:06:25] an achievement for the Syrian security services at [00:06:28] that time, but if we put Eli Cohen [00:06:31] in his true size, we will see that he is just [00:06:35] a spy below average, [00:06:39] even a failed spy. [00:06:44] Eli Cohen, a handsome young man in his thirties, [00:06:49] Alexandria in [00:06:50] 1924. [00:06:54] An Egyptian Jew whose family originates from [00:06:57] Aleppo, but they [00:07:00] Alexandria before immigrating to [00:07:03] Israel. [00:07:09] In Egypt, Eliyahu or Eli [00:07:12] was involved in secret Jewish activities for the benefit [00:07:15] of Zionism, as he was responsible for smuggling [00:07:19] Egyptian Jewish families to Israel. In the [00:07:22] mid-fifties, Cohen's name [00:07:25] was mentioned in the investigations of the Egyptian authorities in [00:07:29] the Lavon affair, or what was known at the time as the [00:07:32] Pinhas Lavon scandal. A [00:07:35] Jewish cell in Egypt sought to carry out bombings in [00:07:38] government and foreign institutions. [00:07:44] But it was soon discovered and a number [00:07:47] of involved Jews were arrested, including Eli [00:07:51] Cohen. But he emerged from the case without [00:07:55] any conviction due to the weakness [00:07:56] of the evidence. [00:08:02] In 1957, [00:08:05] Cohen immigrated to Israel to begin [00:08:08] a new phase of his life. [00:08:11] It was very different from what an Arab Jew had envisioned [00:08:15] in his imagination, as Israel was not the Promised [00:08:18] Land they longed for in [00:08:20] their imagination. [00:08:25] After a period, Cohen married an Iraqi [00:08:28] Jewish nurse, Mrs. Nadia [00:08:31] Michael, the woman who would soon become one of [00:08:35] Israel's most famous women because [00:08:37] of her husband, who did not know that she was related [00:08:41] to the world's most famous spies, or that [00:08:44] her husband would soon embark on a journey [00:08:47] of no return to [00:08:48] Damascus. [00:08:55] I know you are looking for work, and I want to offer [00:08:58] you a proposal. It is an interesting [00:09:01] job. You will travel a lot. [00:09:05] I just got married and I don't want [00:09:07] to travel. I can translate for you what [00:09:11] they are saying. [00:09:16] We will pay you two hundred dollars and we will train [00:09:20] you for six months. After that, you can [00:09:22] stay or leave. [00:09:34] I don't think he joined them like that since [00:09:37] the first day he arrived in [00:09:39] Israel. They placed him. [00:09:46] I don't know exactly how the recruitment happened, but [00:09:49] the Mossad provided us with a secret [00:09:52] document dated February [00:09:56] 13, [00:09:57] 1957. [00:10:04] That is, five days after his arrival in [00:10:07] Israel, Eli had submitted [00:10:11] an eight-page resume in French [00:10:14] and detailed what happened [00:10:18] to him in Egypt, specifically about his connection [00:10:21] to the Lavon affair, and then he wrote [00:10:24] the languages he knew [00:10:25] and mastered. [00:10:33] And there were about seven [00:10:35] languages. [00:10:41] At the end of the document, he volunteered to undertake [00:10:44] an intelligence mission in any Arab [00:10:47] country. And he signed [00:10:51] his application afterwards. Two years later, [00:10:55] it was decided to send him on a mission [00:10:57] to Syria. [00:11:04] A security report issued by the Mossad after Cohen's [00:11:07] execution states that Eli had applied for Mossad exams [00:11:11] seeking a job, but after [00:11:13] some tests, it was found that he was excessively [00:11:17] confident to the point of risk-taking, so he was [00:11:20] excluded. [00:11:27] Meir Amid, director of the Mossad at that [00:11:30] time, was leading networks of agents in [00:11:34] his Arab surroundings. He was looking for an agent [00:11:38] with specific specifications, but he did not find [00:11:41] a suitable person, so he had to search the files [00:11:44] of rejected agents, [00:11:46] and he found Eli Cohen, who was the only [00:11:50] option for him. [00:12:10] After settling in Damascus, Brunner changed his appearance, [00:12:14] as well as his name. He became [00:12:18] Dr. George Fischer. [00:12:20] Brunner was not the only Nazi who fled to [00:12:23] Damascus. Rather, it was a coherent group [00:12:27] that went to Egypt and then finally settled in Damascus. [00:12:40] I am older than you and know life better than you. There is no [00:12:44] other way out. They brought him to [00:12:46] Israel. [00:12:50] But maybe we can free him. Are you [00:12:53] crazy? From inside an Israeli [00:12:56] prison? [00:12:58] Who knows? We have to stay here until things [00:13:02] calm down. [00:13:06] That man was named Franz Radi Macher, a Nazi [00:13:10] officer who preceded Brunner to Damascus. Rad Macher [00:13:13] headed the Jewish Affairs Office in the German [00:13:17] Foreign Ministry during Hitler's time. [00:13:21] All these Nazis had found a safe haven [00:13:24] in Syria. Security reports indicate that the Syrian [00:13:27] security services hosted [00:13:31] as their security expertise was highly [00:13:34] valued and appreciated. [00:13:38] Eli Cohen's main mission [00:13:42] was to provide periodic reports [00:13:45] on military intelligence. [00:13:48] However, in the hierarchy of missions, [00:13:51] the mission of searching for or tracking Nazi criminals [00:13:55] was in the fifth or [00:13:57] sixth place, [00:14:01] because that was the responsibility [00:14:05] the Mossad, which is responsible for tracking [00:14:08] Nazi criminals who hid in various [00:14:25] Syria was under Nasser's leadership during the unity [00:14:28] period, and the Arabs had decided to divert the waters of the Jordan [00:14:31] River, which raised alarm bells in Tel Aviv. [00:14:48] Pay attention, we will send you to an Arab country [00:14:51] to carry out a secret mission. You must establish [00:14:55] local connections. You will get Syrian [00:14:58] citizen [00:15:02] documents. Why did they give [00:15:05] me Egyptian documents? I know everything [00:15:07] about them. [00:15:11] Impossible, you have a security file with the Egyptians. [00:15:29] I asked myself a hundred times, was Eliyahu [00:15:33] the right person? Can [00:15:35] he do what I want? [00:15:38] I wasn't entirely sure. I showed [00:15:41] him that he had my [00:15:43] trust, and I didn't want to think [00:15:48] one step away from an unknown [00:15:51] fate. Nevertheless, we proceeded with the mission. And you [00:16:11] also have [00:16:14] special operations, people you recruit [00:16:17] and information that arrives successively. The overall [00:16:21] picture of intelligence is that it relies on sources. You [00:16:25] cannot rely on rumors. Therefore, you will need [00:16:28] spies. Spies are the crown [00:16:32] jewel, the most reliable ones. They receive their information from [00:16:35] other people, and that's [00:16:38] why the complete intelligence picture must [00:16:42] things. You must have a bit of everything. [00:16:46] We needed to get close to the state leaders, as Eli [00:16:50] Cohen did. You will hear what they are talking about, and all this [00:16:54] gives you the picture. And if you are looking for someone for a mission, [00:16:57] you will choose them carefully to withstand the enormous [00:17:00] pressures. [00:17:09] The secret mission in Damascus was and [00:17:12] still is an unsolved enigma, as some [00:17:16] reports indicated that it was not a specific [00:17:19] mission, but rather a set of objectives, including discovering the [00:17:23] Syrian internal situation during the unity [00:17:27] period, in addition to Israel's [00:17:29] desire to obtain more information about the diversion [00:17:33] of the Jordan River's water. However, [00:17:36] one report, which was issued after Cohen's execution, [00:17:39] stated that one of his missions, at a certain stage, [00:17:42] was to monitor Nazi officers hiding [00:17:45] in [00:17:46] Syria. [00:17:56] Okay, your full name and your father's name are [00:17:59] Amin Thabet. Your mother is Said [00:18:02] Ibrahim. Your parents are Syrians and you have a sister [00:18:05] who was born in Beirut, then your family left for Lebanon. [00:18:09] Remember your Syrian family. And after [00:18:13] years, you immigrated to Argentina, specifically in [00:18:17] 1947. [00:18:20] In 1956, your father passed away. [00:18:23] And six months later, your [00:18:26] mother passed away, then you lived alone. [00:18:29] But you entered the business field and achieved [00:18:32] great success. Remember, you are [00:18:36] Kamal Amin Thabet, [00:18:39] and wishes to return to his homeland. [00:18:54] The first phase of the operation will begin [00:18:58] in Argentina. It is currently the shortest way to Damascus. [00:19:02] There is a large Syrian and Lebanese [00:19:06] community there. One of our men [00:19:09] will be waiting for you there and will give you new [00:19:12] identification documents. He will take care [00:19:15] of everything. [00:19:18] We do not know the full details of how [00:19:21] he was trained. However, it is certain that it [00:19:23] involved him living for a certain period [00:19:26] under a false identity. This was [00:19:30] in northern Israel, in the Galilee region, [00:19:32] specifically. Where he lived with a family of Syrian [00:19:36] origin. After that, he went [00:19:38] to Argentina, [00:19:42] Syrian and Lebanese immigrants. [00:19:46] He built a good network of friendships [00:19:48] there. All [00:19:51] of that was the basis for moving [00:19:54] eventually to [00:19:57] Damascus. [00:20:05] In late 1900 [00:20:08] in Buenos Aires, Cohen began to find [00:20:12] his way towards the Arabs, as he managed to infiltrate the world [00:20:15] of Syrian immigrants, introducing himself as the expatriate [00:20:19] businessman, Mr. Kamal Amin [00:20:21] Thabet. [00:20:26] Cohen soon became acquainted with Abdul Latif Al-Khashan, [00:20:29] one of the most prominent Syrian figures in Buenos Aires. [00:20:33] Al-Khashan was an important key and a link between Argentina and Syria. [00:20:38] He knew a lot about politics [00:20:40] and politicians. [00:20:44] Al-Khashan quickly admired Kamal Amin Thabet and his vision [00:20:47] for the future of Syria, [00:20:50] who spoke to him about a strong desire to return to [00:20:53] the homeland. [00:20:58] After several months of his arrival in Argentina, on [00:21:01] September 28, 1961, [00:21:05] the Syrian side announced its secession from [00:21:08] Egypt, as the Syrian Colonel Abdul Karim [00:21:11] Al-Nahlawi led a coup against Nasser. [00:21:15] The time of secession was the right moment and the loophole [00:21:18] through which he infiltrated [00:21:20] Syria. [00:21:30] By early 1962, everything was [00:21:33] ready, and Cohen was one step away from [00:21:37] Damascus, then zero hour [00:21:40] arrived. [00:21:45] You have one last stop in Munich. [00:21:48] We will send some with you. How will I cross with it into [00:21:53] worry, we have arranged everything. You will go [00:21:57] from Genoa to Beirut. And on board [00:22:00] the ship, one of our men will be waiting for you. [00:22:03] He will help you cross the border between Lebanon and Syria. [00:22:16] He is Majed Sheikh Al-Ard. One of the mysteries in the Cohen [00:22:22] Mossad had to find an escort and support for Cohen during [00:22:25] his journey, so Majed Sheikh Al-Ard was [00:22:28] the one who remained close to Cohen throughout three years in [00:22:31] Damascus. He only left him when each [00:22:34] of them was put in a separate cell, [00:22:37] according [00:22:42] to security reports in the Cohen case, Majed Sheikh [00:22:46] Al-Ard was a Syrian businessman. He married [00:22:50] an Egyptian Jewish woman, and during the [00:22:53] war years, he lived in Nazi Germany, [00:22:56] which made him a greedy [00:22:59] partner, which attracted Israeli [00:23:02] intelligence, so they made him a close [00:23:04] man. [00:23:10] The ship carried both Cohen and Majed until [00:23:14] they reached Lebanon, and from there they set off to the Syrian [00:23:18] border. Here, [00:23:20] Majed had an appointment with one [00:23:24] at the border, who would facilitate the passage [00:23:27] of the two men. Indeed, Cohen crossed the Syrian [00:23:30] border with ease, and within [00:23:33] hours, he was in the heart of Damascus. [00:23:51] In the middle of Damascus, in the Abu Rummanah neighborhood, he chose a luxurious [00:23:55] house that overlooked the presidential guesthouse. [00:24:34] And from the center of Damascus, Eliyahu sent the first whispered [00:24:38] sound after arriving safely. [00:24:40] A two-digit code [00:24:43] only. 88. [00:24:47] And it means, I found a house to live in [00:24:50] in Damascus. Then the mission began. [00:25:11] The situation in Damascus was fragile, and Syrians [00:25:14] needed any support, no matter how [00:25:16] small. Syria during the secession [00:25:20] was suffering from a difficult situation as a result of the unity [00:25:22] with Egypt, and the Syrians' fear of Nasser [00:25:26] and his return was [00:25:28] fear of the Israelis. All of [00:25:31] that paved the way for Kamal Amin Thabet's mission, [00:25:35] the nationalist millionaire returning [00:25:37] home, who was considered the [00:25:40] right man at the [00:25:41] right time. [00:25:48] working. He was from Kamal [00:25:52] Al-Khashan's son, the person [00:25:54] Argentina. [00:25:59] the young officer Maadi Zahr El-Din. [00:26:03] The nephew of the Syrian Army Chief of Staff, Abdul [00:26:06] Karim Zahr El-Din. [00:26:10] And every day he secretly sent his information to [00:26:14] his superiors in Tel [00:26:15] Aviv. [00:26:18] Historians [00:26:21] believe that this was the deepest [00:26:25] military infiltration that Eli Cohen managed, while [00:26:28] some believe that it was only the first [00:26:31] of infiltrations that came [00:26:33] after that. [00:26:37] The officer, First Lieutenant Maath Zahr El-Din, a First Lieutenant in the Syrian [00:26:41] Army. What information could he have? Like [00:26:44] a corporal today in the Syrian army itself or [00:26:49] Junior officers do [00:26:52] gossip. He hears a story [00:26:57] the commander. His sources were very limited. I mean, okay, [00:27:01] gossip, from which Eli Cohen extracted a lot [00:27:04] of information, but my assessment [00:27:08] and the assessment of others, in fact, [00:27:11] of impartiality or objectivity about Eli [00:27:14] Cohen, is that the information was not enormous because he was not [00:27:18] organized at all. Senior officers had not become [00:27:22] agents for him, the senior [00:27:23] officers. [00:27:50] who was an important source for Cohen due to his [00:27:54] journalistic relations with regime [00:27:56] circles. The paradox is that George [00:27:59] Seif personally hosted Cohen more than once [00:28:03] on Damascus radio. [00:28:19] What were Cohen's information sources in Damascus? According to all [00:28:22] his biographies, whether Syrian or Israeli, or those who [00:28:25] wrote in another way, his information source [00:28:29] was a civil servant in the Syrian Ministry of Information named Al-Sali. He [00:28:32] used to give daily what is called [00:28:35] newspaper summaries, a daily journalistic report from which [00:28:39] Eli Cohen selected some news and sent it to [00:28:42] Israel. And what alerted the Syrian [00:28:45] authorities that there is a spy in Damascus, [00:28:49] and then Muhammad Imran resigned, who was one of the senior [00:28:52] Syrian leaders at that time. Of course, the Syrian leadership has a way [00:28:56] of broadcasting its news. It delays the announcement of the resignation [00:28:59] for certain arrangements, two, three days, a week, and so on. [00:29:03] The news reached him through George Sali, who broadcast [00:29:06] it to Israel. The next day, the news appeared on Israeli [00:29:09] radio in Arabic. Here the Syrian [00:29:14] news to Israel. That means there is an agent [00:29:17] for them, a spy. And this news is not [00:29:21] important because if it is not broadcast today, it will be broadcast in a few [00:29:25] days, meaning it will become free. And this is a sign of lack [00:29:28] of professionalism. If you are professional, you do not arouse [00:29:31] suspicion in the enemy with such [00:29:34] news that is not of paramount importance or of [00:29:38] high importance. [00:29:41] Months later, Syria was one step [00:29:44] away from a more mysterious [00:29:47] future. The March [00:29:49] 8, 1963 coup, which brought the Ba'ath Party to [00:29:53] power. [00:30:00] The Ba'ath and Cohen. [00:30:02] A relationship shrouded in mystery [00:30:04] to this day. [00:30:07] While some reports indicate that he was close to the new [00:30:11] rulers of Syria, the Ba'athists deny that relationship [00:30:14] completely. I mean, the Ba'ath Party issue, [00:30:18] I was at that time a member of the Damascus [00:30:21] branch leadership at that time, and I have been accompanying the party [00:30:25] experience since its birth in Damascus after the era [00:30:29] of unity in the process of re-establishing the party. [00:30:33] And no one entered the party except those [00:30:36] who are known to us. At the same time, no [00:30:39] sane person can believe [00:30:42] that it is possible to join the party with such simplicity, [00:30:45] because he has to go through long stages. First, [00:30:49] he must be a supporter, then a sympathizer, then an active member, [00:30:52] then he enters party conferences until he rises [00:30:55] and becomes a party member. And what is the relationship [00:30:59] between this person