SYRIATV — broadcast 20261102 053000 UTC 455 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] health regarding narcotic drugs. This is also an important issue, starting [00:00:03] from the import of this substance to its distribution to the patient, ensuring [00:00:07] there is a precise mechanism to ensure that [00:00:10] the invoice, or rather, the prescription, is accurately [00:00:14] to this recorded in special tables and the invoice is for a one-time use, as I mentioned, for identifying [00:00:16] this person. There is also a very precise mechanism that is also related to the Ministry of Health, [00:00:20] because the drug law, as I said, [00:00:24] TV. In fact, this has a fundamental and essential relationship with the Ministry of Health. There are [00:00:28] many issues related to this law. [00:00:30] Of course, the mechanism of combating it. [00:00:33] There is also a very important matter in this regard, which is [00:00:36] how to deal with, as I said, drug [00:00:40] violations, which is a technical task, it is a professional task. It is not only [00:00:43] a criminal act or a prosecution. There are technical matters that confirm this [00:00:47] narcotic substance, its type. Of course, analyses are conducted [00:00:50] for the person if this [00:00:52] substance [00:00:55] that is suspected to be an addict, for example, or a user. This substance is analyzed in [00:00:58] their blood so that any person is referred to [00:01:02] the supervising court or the criminal court. I mean, we are talking [00:01:06] now, of course, about everything mentioned is all crimes that carry the description of [00:01:09] a felony, judged by the criminal court. The narcotic substance must be seized, [00:01:12] meaning when the person is referred, whether they are a user [00:01:16] or a dealer, this substance is seized, and analyses are performed on it. There will [00:01:20] be reports attached to this substance. This substance is referred to the [00:01:23] obstacles, there are many criminal court to reach [00:01:25] year. Unfortunately, it was delayed. So, is Syria's removal from not only the seizure of the shipment, but also the complete dismantling of the system [00:01:29] and reaching the truth. Thank you very [00:01:30] but the important thing is much, my guest Ghiath Dabour, lawyer and human rights activist, [00:01:34] who was with us from Damascus. I also thank Basil Shabib, [00:01:38] security expert, who was with us from Damascus, and Rana Sabbagh, investigative [00:01:41] journalist from Amman. Thank you very much, my dear [00:01:44] guests. [00:01:47] the doors for that We continue with you, viewers, in Syria today, and after [00:01:49] the break, we will discuss efforts to re-establish Syria's connection to the European banking [00:01:53] system and preparations to delist Syria from the gray list [00:01:57] for money [00:01:58] governance and legislation in laundering. [00:02:02] Transparency in data, transparency in Syria Radio [00:02:06] with you wherever [00:02:08] international banks in an atmosphere of you are. From Damascus [00:02:11] Questions that do not shy away from to Aleppo, from [00:02:14] and do not compromise on the coast to Al-Jazeera, [00:02:17] the voice of Syria accompanies you wherever [00:02:20] you are. Radio Syria TV [00:02:23] on the unified frequency 99 FM [00:02:26] in all Syrian cities and governorates. [00:02:30] We accompany you with accurate news and diverse [00:02:33] programs 24 hours a day. Radio [00:02:37] Syria TV, your voice wherever [00:02:41] integration or this you are. [00:03:45] was affected at this [00:03:53] difficult, [00:03:55] European banks in [00:03:58] banks? In [00:04:02] The Governor of the Central Bank of Syria, Safwan Raslan, held a series [00:04:05] of meetings with representatives from international and European financial [00:04:09] institutions and banks to develop [00:04:12] salaries in banking relations during his first official visit to the French capital, [00:04:14] Paris. The Central Bank of Syria said that Raslan discussed [00:04:18] ways to reconnect Syria to the European banking system [00:04:22] an important detail. We are a country open to and enhance financial cooperation and expand the network of correspondent banks [00:04:25] and facilitate trade financing, in addition to [00:04:28] developing payment channels and international transfers. [00:04:31] For its part, the Anti-Money Laundering and Terrorism [00:04:35] Financing Authority stated that the mutual evaluation of the [00:04:39] trust and moving from the gray anti-money laundering system in Syria will begin mid- [00:04:42] next year as part of the procedural and preparatory steps [00:04:45] to consider delisting Syria from the gray list, [00:04:49] confirming that Syria is working diligently to [00:04:52] implement all recommendations of the Financial Action Task Force [00:04:55] and its standards. [00:05:02] Regarding this topic, I welcome my guest from Damascus, Dr. Khaled Al-Hamdi, [00:05:06] expert in economic planning, and I also welcome Muhammad Al-Alabi, [00:05:11] on the grey economic researcher, with us from Freiburg. Welcome to you both. I will start with you, Dr. Khaled, [00:05:15] to talk about these efforts to reconnect Syria [00:05:18] to the European banking system. What does the [00:05:22] Syrian banking system actually need in practice to return [00:05:27] system? [00:05:30] Good evening, Dima, and our dear guest [00:05:33] and viewers of Syria [00:05:37] is a step towards building the Syrian economy. [00:05:40] We know that banks are the artery [00:05:43] of the economic body. Without banks, the economic [00:05:46] body will suffocate [00:05:50] completely. The [00:05:53] banks need everything. We need to reorder [00:05:56] the internal banking system, [00:05:59] and this has been worked on for about eight months. [00:06:02] And France has a big role in [00:06:05] strengthening the [00:06:09] transformation and transition of the banking situation to a situation [00:06:13] that is closer to ideal, despite [00:06:16] the difficult circumstances of the Syrian banking situation. [00:06:19] This visit is not a ceremonial [00:06:22] visit or an official visit, but rather [00:06:25] a visit for the transition [00:06:27] of Syria to global [00:06:31] integration, even if reluctantly. There are many [00:06:36] shortcomings, but work is being done to restore [00:06:39] the internal banking system in Syria. [00:06:42] Therefore, it is part of the mosaic of building the Syrian [00:06:46] economic network entirely. Today, [00:06:49] we need programs, we need economic [00:06:53] analysis, we need integration [00:06:55] with global markets with global banks. [00:06:59] The visit was, in fact, I followed this [00:07:02] visit from beginning to end. In fact, all the basics [00:07:06] very operational, linked [00:07:10] to developing institutional work. There were major meetings [00:07:14] with very large banks in France. We [00:07:16] are talking about France Bank, we are talking about the Bank of France. [00:07:20] Of course, this visit [00:07:23] has been prepared for since July, and it was prepared for [00:07:26] when President Macron visited Syria, [00:07:29] and it was prepared for [00:07:33] through French training programs [00:07:36] to reach this situation. Today, in Syria, we [00:07:39] need to rebuild everything. [00:07:43] related to banking work, we need them in Syria. [00:07:45] And has the [00:07:49] technical, operational, and regulatory infrastructure that allows for this [00:07:54] merging [00:07:56] been completed? In fact, it's not ideal, but it's being worked on. [00:08:00] I mean, it's not necessary for this visit to solve all problems [00:08:04] for us to have an economic reality. Today, this [00:08:07] visit is very important. It's a step towards [00:08:10] putting Syria on the right global economic banking [00:08:14] path. Today, any bank, any [00:08:17] European bank, or French [00:08:20] or international bank, does not only look at the Central Bank [00:08:24] of Syria. Any bank in Syria is under the microscope. [00:08:28] There is monitoring of these [00:08:30] banks, auditing their data. [00:08:34] These banks, madam, look at the issue of money laundering, smuggling [00:08:38] or financing terrorism [00:08:42] with caution. Therefore, we in Syria need everything, [00:08:45] but this visit is very important. Yes. So, how do you read [00:08:48] that, Mr. Muhammad? What really [00:08:52] distinguishes this visit, as my guest mentioned a moment ago, [00:08:55] that it is not a fleeting visit, and it is [00:08:58] important for Syria's transition to global integration? What are the chances [00:09:02] of actually regaining banking trust, and what is the reason for this hesitation from [00:09:07] dealing with Syrian [00:09:25] about, I mean, major meetings with major banks [00:09:29] in France, I think there is only the French Central [00:09:32] Bank. The rest are all Arab banks, I mean, [00:09:36] essentially French or European banks, their names [00:09:39] are written in French and in English, [00:09:43] but they are not French or English [00:09:45] banks. [00:09:48] I mean, I want to give an example: الخليجي فرنسا [00:09:51] Bank France Bank, First Abu Dhabi Bank, [00:09:55] these are all Arab banks, I mean, in the end. [00:09:58] So, it is necessary to talk about this [00:10:01] because we must [00:10:05] know that until now, European [00:10:09] banks and the European banking system, and the global [00:10:11] banking system in general, are still hesitant [00:10:15] to deal with the Syrian banking sector. And the reasons here are multiple. [00:10:18] I mean, there is something related to Syria's classification [00:10:23] list of the Financial Action Task [00:10:26] Force (FATF), and this is, [00:10:29] I think, a problem that requires long and continuous work. [00:10:32] The first steps will probably begin in the middle of [00:10:35] next year, and it will be, I mean, a technical [00:10:39] process that takes a long time to build the appropriate [00:10:42] infrastructure for it, such [00:10:45] as Know Your Customer, I mean, know your customer, because the bank in Europe, [00:10:49] to simplify it for the viewers, when the bank in Europe wants to transfer [00:10:53] 10 million dollars to Syria, for example, [00:10:56] it wants the Syrian bank, the bank in [00:10:59] Syria, to tell it exactly [00:11:02] who the beneficiary is, who will receive this [00:11:06] money. Does their income and work, [00:11:09] their profession, qualify them to receive this large [00:11:11] amount? [00:11:14] Will it be a suspicious deal [00:11:17] in which the last beneficiary, [00:11:20] I mean, the beneficial [00:11:24] owner behind the final beneficiary of this [00:11:27] transaction, be a sanctioned person, for example, because we still have [00:11:31] sanctioned people in Syria. So, this is the infrastructure [00:11:34] that, until it is available, Mrs. Dima, we [00:11:38] are forced to work for a long time, it could [00:11:41] take two years. But in my opinion, [00:11:45] it was very necessary to start this process in the first [00:11:50] the gray list enough to restore the trust of European banks? No, no, [00:11:55] I was going to add this as well. [00:11:58] It's not enough, so we don't deceive the viewers [00:12:02] as happened in the beginning, that people thought that [00:12:06] sanctions were the only obstacle. [00:12:08] No, sanctions are not the obstacle, and the gray list is not the only [00:12:12] obstacle. Many countries were on the gray list and had a banking [00:12:15] system that operated at the minimum level. The main [00:12:18] obstacle, in my opinion, Ms. Dima, is [00:12:23] Syria. I mean, we have a monetary [00:12:26] system, a system for managing cash in Syria, which is [00:12:30] the basic monetary system or law, I mean, the currency [00:12:33] and credit law needs to be reviewed. [00:12:36] In this, and this means [00:12:40] that the work of the Central Bank is intertwined [00:12:43] with the People's Assembly because this law needs [00:12:46] amendment. There are other [00:12:49] matters related to the governance of banks themselves because [00:12:53] the governance of banks, [00:12:56] the conditions for licensing [00:12:57] banks, the minimum limits [00:13:01] for bank assets, these are all matters [00:13:05] that require review, in addition [00:13:08] to [00:13:11] the informal transfer channels. This is unsolvable, I mean, [00:13:14] because the cash economy is an enemy. Why are we talking about why [00:13:18] these informal channels are still in place? What prevents [00:13:21] them from being officially recognized [00:13:25] like in all countries? [00:13:28] In reality, it's a very long and heavy legacy, [00:13:31] from sanctions to a dilapidated banking sector. [00:13:35] In the beginning, it was a government banking sector, I mean, during [00:13:39] the time of Assad the father, then [00:13:41] during the era of Bashar, I mean, during [00:13:45] the era of [00:13:48] the Far, it opened up a bit, and there were [00:13:51] private banks, but they also remained restricted in many [00:13:56] of their operations. They used Lebanon as an external platform [00:14:00] in many cases, and then when [00:14:03] the Lebanese banking system collapsed in 2019, [00:14:07] Syria as a whole [00:14:10] level, and the reliance on [00:14:13] informal transfer methods increased and became an essential part of the economy. It became [00:14:18] very difficult to get out of it, [00:14:22] but one of the biggest problems is that the government is not giving [00:14:25] real signals to restore confidence in the banking [00:14:29] sector. And the most important signal, Ms. Dima, the most important signal [00:14:33] is the re-payment of salaries, localizing [00:14:37] public and private banks. I mean, [00:14:41] there is no justification [00:14:44] for us to continue localizing salaries [00:14:47] through [00:14:49] an electronic payment method that is not guaranteed [00:14:53] and not licensed and has no sponsoring bank. [00:14:56] So, what is your opinion, Mr. Khaled, on that, [00:15:00] on the issue of exiting [00:15:03] list? Is it really not enough to restore, [00:15:07] as my guest mentioned, the issue of trust [00:15:10] for European banks, and there are several facts [00:15:14] and several factors related to re-paying salaries and also [00:15:17] governance in legislation in Syria needs review? [00:15:20] To what extent is there really time for the relevant [00:15:24] authorities to complete these tasks [00:15:27] based on the allowed period before mid- [00:15:30] next year? [00:15:34] Yes, in fact, today, what is required of the Syrian [00:15:38] government and those responsible for the banking situation, whether it is the Central Bank [00:15:42] of Syria or those in charge of the economic [00:15:44] situation in Syria today, is to update [00:15:47] legislation. Madam, during [00:15:51] the days of the defunct Ba'ath regime, if [00:15:54] someone sent a transfer to, I mean, someone sent a [00:15:57] transfer to their parents, the family would be subjected [00:16:00] to an investigation that could last for months. So we are talking about a banking [00:16:03] situation that did not exist. It was only to serve [00:16:08] the Assad regime. [00:16:10] What we are doing today in Syria and what the Syrian [00:16:13] government is doing, I mean, with truly commendable [00:16:17] efforts, despite the pressure, [00:16:19] but there are shortcomings. In fact, today we [00:16:23] lack updated legislation, and this issue [00:16:25] is [00:16:32] there is no obstacle to the People's Assembly, which has only met [00:16:36] a few weeks ago. [00:16:47] We must pay attention to activating correspondent banks, and this [00:16:50] is a very important step because it is important for investors. We must [00:16:54] enhance confidence in the banking situation [00:16:57] and localize localize funds in banks [00:17:00] and enhance the profit rates in these banks [00:17:04] because they encourage citizens to localize [00:17:08] funds to develop payment [00:17:11] systems and international transfers. Mr. Khaled, what is the required [00:17:15] action today to effectively develop international payment [00:17:18] and transfer systems? Expanding the network [00:17:20] of banks to effectively restore full confidence [00:17:24] in European banks? [00:17:27] We, Dima, we need to strengthen [00:17:30] the independence of monetary policy in [00:17:33] Syria. Today, we need absolute transparency. [00:17:40] supervision, and also restoring relations with [00:17:45] trust. Banks are not just treasuries [00:17:48] for money; they are treasuries for trust. If foreign [00:17:52] banks lose trust in the Syrian [00:17:54] bank, that will have a catastrophic [00:17:57] impact. The situation today is not ideal, [00:18:00] but efforts are being made to [00:18:04] put the banking situation in Syria on the right track. [00:18:08] And I appeared on the honorable Syria TV a few [00:18:11] months ago, and we talked about the European mission that [00:18:15] is training, developing, and assisting, which is a technical committee. [00:18:19] The employees at the Central Bank [00:18:24] are working on financial analysis [00:18:27] policy, risk management [00:18:30] and advanced programs [00:18:34] developed countries. What the Syrian [00:18:36] state is doing is within reality and capabilities. [00:18:40] I mean, in my opinion, today we must [00:18:43] encourage any step taken by the Syrian state. Going back to your [00:18:46] question regarding, [00:18:51] the gray list, [00:18:54] mean the removal of all sanctions or [00:18:57] obstacles, but it is a step in the right direction. [00:19:00] And by the way, the FATF [00:19:03] organization, or the FATF, it [00:19:07] has two types of lists: black lists and gray lists. [00:19:10] Gray lists are less severe than black [00:19:14] lists. I mean, in other words, [00:19:17] with some reforms, with transparency from the Syrian [00:19:21] government, the removal will happen, and the removal will be [00:19:25] around 2027, but it is [00:19:28] not everything, as our friend Muhammad mentioned. [00:19:32] Of course, it is part of the solution, [00:19:35] but the visit of Mr. [00:19:38] Safwat to France, I expect it [00:19:41] will facilitate banking transfers and improve [00:19:45] the speed of transfers and reduce the costs of banking [00:19:48] intermediation. Every single part of these [00:19:52] parts will reflect on the Syrian citizen and reflect on the Syrian state [00:19:56] and, I mean, there is also [00:19:59] trade, trade financing, documentary [00:20:02] credits, I mean, bank [00:20:05] guarantees and [00:20:07] documents and financing exports, financing [00:20:10] imports, all of these are important. But in my opinion, [00:20:14] strengthening trust, strengthening [00:20:17] theoretical talk and beautiful and pleasant [00:20:20] meetings to practical [00:20:23] work, this is what we want in Syria. Today, in Syria, we [00:20:26] need absolute transparency, we need to start working, [00:20:30] I mean, for the Syrian citizen to feel the impact of these meetings and these [00:20:33] decisions on their daily life. [00:20:40] To feel this, we need no less [00:20:43] than, I mean, between two to three years for [00:20:47] the Syrian citizen to feel the situation. [00:20:58] To what extent can we, Mr. Al-Alabi, actually differentiate between [00:21:01] Syria's inclusion on the gray list and the difference between [00:21:05] the gray list and the black [00:21:07] list? Mr. Muhammad, if you can hear me, regarding [00:21:11] separating the file of combating terrorism or money [00:21:14] laundering from the file of sanctions, how can we distinguish [00:21:17] between them today? [00:21:19] No, combating money laundering and terrorism financing is [00:21:23] an ongoing process. I mean, in all countries of the world, it is [00:21:26] an ongoing process. Syria is on the gray list, and of course, [00:21:30] there are annual meetings where delegations from the FATF, [00:21:33] from the Financial Action Task Force, come to Damascus [00:21:37] and conduct assessments. [00:21:39] There are also employees who remain in Damascus, [00:21:43] appointed by the FATF itself, who then [00:21:46] monitor the extent of banks' compliance. [00:21:50] How many cases are being transferred to the judiciary, [00:21:53] how many cases are being uncovered, [00:21:56] when is the Governor of the Central [00:22:00] Bank intervening in his senior capacity as [00:22:03] the head of the Anti-Money Laundering and Terrorism [00:22:06] Financing Authority? There might be other requests later [00:22:10] to amend the structure of this authority. So these are all [00:22:14] technical matters. We don't want to confuse the viewers [00:22:17] too much with them, [00:22:20] to differentiate between sanctions and banking [00:22:24] supervision. Banking supervision is an ongoing [00:22:27] and permanent process, and we need it because [00:22:30] when there is no banking supervision in a country, then [00:22:33] we are opening [00:22:37] country to be [00:22:39] a place for tax evasion, for drug [00:22:42] money, for terrorist money, for arms [00:22:46] dealers' money. So these are harmful funds. [00:22:50] Absolutely harmful funds because they do not come for a noble purpose. They come [00:22:53] to be laundered in Syria, and this [00:22:57] destroys the economy. So, [00:23:00] during the past two years, unfortunately, we have a very big deficiency [00:23:04] in performance. I do not know, in fact, [00:23:08] the competence of the [00:23:11] existing team to manage this process. [00:23:15] We are talking about the arrival [00:23:19] of the FATF, the Financial Action Task Force, in mid-2027. I mean, from [00:23:22] then on, evaluations will begin. [00:23:25] So, I believe Syria [00:23:28] has started. So, during this period, [00:23:31] during the coming months, what must Syria achieve [00:23:35] for these European meetings to turn [00:23:38] into actual agreements on the [00:23:40] ground? [00:23:43] Mrs. Dima, look, [00:23:46] everyone in Syria, unfortunately, has [00:23:50] and, by the way, this is part of the media discourse that misled [00:23:54] many [00:23:56] people. People have the idea that the West and abroad must approve [00:23:59] of us. No, that's not the idea. They must trust [00:24:03] us. No, that's not the idea. First, we, [00:24:06] as banks, as the Syrian banking sector, must regain the trust of the Syrian [00:24:10] citizen. I mean, this comes first, [00:24:14] because no one will trust you abroad if your citizen doesn't trust [00:24:18] you. Do you understand? Aha. [00:24:20] The first step that must be taken is to regain the trust of the Syrian [00:24:24] citizen. I mean, how can I, as a citizen, [00:24:27] go to the bank and deposit money, and I am confident that [00:24:31] tomorrow a decision will not be issued that prevents me from withdrawing my money from the bank [00:24:34] and freezes liquidity? Therefore, it is [00:24:38] based. I mean, [00:24:41] why does the state, why does the government, why do the official [00:24:44] institutions transfer the salaries of their employees [00:24:47] through transfer methods that are not licensed, [00:24:51] while there are banks in the country, there are public banks and there are private banks? Yes. [00:24:55] I mean, these are the signals [00:24:58] that will restore the confidence of citizens in the banking [00:25:02] sector. Then we have [00:25:05] these meetings that we are working on, and also [00:25:08] the paths that we are working on with the World Bank, with the International Monetary Fund, with [00:25:12] international institutions, and donors. We must [00:25:14] start bringing funding for this public banking sector, both its [00:25:18] public and private parts. I mean, we must start bringing [00:25:21] our private investors and bring and bring for the public also so that the banking [00:25:25] sector can play its fundamental role, which is [00:25:28] lending. Thank you. Thank you very much, Muhammad Al-Alabi, economic [00:25:32] researcher, who was with us from Freiburg. Thank you very much. [00:25:35] And Dr. Khaled Al-Hamdi, expert in economic [00:25:38] planning, who was with us from Damascus. Thank you [00:25:41] very much. Viewers, we have reached the end of this episode of Syria [00:25:45] Today. Goodbye and may God [00:25:46] keep you safe. [00:28:35] And Syrians now have a country. We are in [00:28:38] its center. [00:28:40] In [00:28:44] a country that lived oppression, injustice, displacement, [00:28:47] and war, but it revolted until [00:28:51] it triumphed. In a country where [00:28:55] narratives vary and discourses [00:28:57] contradict. [00:29:02] Dialogues and debates [00:29:12] about [00:29:12] the most [00:29:17] important and most [00:29:19] complex issues [00:29:23] until we meet at a point [00:29:25] that unites us [00:29:27] in the city center on Syria TV [00:29:31] and the second channel. [00:30:24] Good morning, news bulletin from Syria TV. We begin [00:30:27] with the headlines. [00:30:31] The main road between Raqqa and Deir ez-Zor at Khneifis bridge, east of [00:30:34] Raqqa, is cut off due to [00:30:35] floods. [00:30:39] The Borders and Customs Authority announces the thwarting of a drug [00:30:42] smuggling attempt through the Jiser Qamar border crossing with [00:30:46] Lebanon. [00:30:50] Internal Security announces the arrest of a cell belonging to the organization.