SYRIATV — broadcast 20261105 210000 UTC 509 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:03] developments on [00:00:04] we now see indeed there is caution in [00:00:09] to take this [00:00:28] and economy being capable of [00:00:35] but brothers' [00:00:50] we will discuss Syria [00:00:52] of these funds on and Saudi Arabia signing agreements and memoranda of understanding covering [00:00:55] development, health, and defense, [00:00:57] and therefore mean commitments on and the implications of this step on the economic [00:01:00] and military realities, and the nature of the relationship between Damascus [00:01:03] and Riyadh. In our second hour, [00:01:06] we will address the statement by the Minister of Social Affairs and Labor, Mrs. [00:01:10] Hind Qabawat, regarding the proposal to grant citizenship [00:01:12] to children of Syrian women married [00:01:15] we, in the frameworks to non-Syrians and its progress to the approval stage. We will discuss its importance [00:01:19] and the legal and societal obstacles [00:01:21] that hinder [00:01:33] We are aware of [00:01:43] part of, I mean, signing this [00:01:50] the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. There are also on country that are attacking [00:01:54] Syria and Saudi Arabia signed agreements and memoranda [00:01:58] requests from of understanding in various fields, in the presence [00:02:02] Whether in the Gulf or in of President Ahmed Al-Sharaa and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed [00:02:05] bin Salman at Al-Yamamah Palace [00:02:06] and the Kingdom usually does in the capital Riyadh. This included several areas, [00:02:14] to stand, to stand with and transparency in this including industry, military cooperation, and financial services. Agreements and new memoranda of understanding [00:02:16] were signed between Syria and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia [00:02:19] at Al-Yamamah Palace in the capital Riyadh, in a visit that is [00:02:23] the second of its kind in less than a month, and at the highest level [00:02:27] of diplomatic representation. Represented [00:02:30] by President Ahmed Al-Sharaa and the Ministers of Foreign Affairs, Defense, [00:02:34] Finance, Industry, Trade, and Interior, in addition to [00:02:37] the head of the General Intelligence Service. [00:02:40] awaits from The Presidency clarified that the agreements [00:02:42] and memoranda of understanding covered fields of development, [00:02:45] infrastructure, energy, housing, health, industry, [00:02:49] agriculture, and environment, in addition to financial services and military [00:02:52] cooperation. For its part, the Ministry of Finance indicated the signing [00:02:56] of six agreements for concessional development loans with the [00:03:00] Saudi Fund for Development, worth over [00:03:03] came with, 403 million dollars to finance [00:03:06] projects in electricity, health, housing, water, and civil defense, [00:03:11] is our message, to stand with in addition to developing government people who live in financial services digitally. On [00:03:16] people. When we stood with the military front, the Syrian and Saudi Defense Ministers signed a cooperation agreement [00:03:19] between the two countries. In parallel, and on the diplomatic [00:03:24] the integration of security with the agreements reached with front, the Presidency stated that President Ahmed Al-Sharaa and Saudi Crown Prince [00:03:28] Mohammed bin Salman [00:03:30] available in our markets. But in discussed bilateral relations and ways to develop them in [00:03:33] various fields. They also exchanged views [00:03:36] on the overall current regional and international situation. [00:03:39] The discussions covered [00:03:41] the integration of security with the repercussions of any military escalation on regional [00:03:45] and international security and stability, [00:03:47] regulator in maritime navigation safety, and the sustainability of [00:03:49] energy supplies and global economic stability. Both sides also affirmed [00:03:54] can be opened for dialogue the importance of strengthening regional and international efforts to de-escalate [00:03:56] and contain crises, prioritizing dialogue and diplomacy, [00:04:01] the Ministries of Defense in and resolving disputes by peaceful means. [00:04:03] While these agreements [00:04:06] in order to develop this and memoranda of understanding reflect a growing rapprochement in Syrian-Saudi [00:04:09] relations, observers believe [00:04:12] but also they represent a new step [00:04:14] who will primarily revive towards expanding cooperation between the two countries in developmental, economic, [00:04:18] and investment files, in parallel with continued political coordination [00:04:21] on regional issues and common [00:04:25] challenges. [00:04:26] We will discuss this file with [00:04:30] Dr. Abdul Basit Abu Nabbut, researcher in international relations from [00:04:35] will help this Damascus, and Colonel Mustafa [00:04:37] or importance of what happened in Al-Shaddad, security and strategic expert from Damascus as well. Welcome, Dr. [00:04:39] Nasser Al-Qarawi, head of the Saudi Center for Studies and Research from [00:04:43] Riyadh. Welcome, and Mr. Mohammed Nasser Hamou, economic expert [00:04:46] and financial advisor from Aleppo. Welcome [00:04:49] as well. I'll start with you, [00:04:52] Dr. Abdul [00:04:56] aspect of this Basit. These sectors to which these funds [00:05:00] were distributed, in your opinion, will they go to develop these [00:05:03] sectors, or will some of them go to employee salaries in [00:05:07] public [00:05:11] and moving from sectors? Welcome. [00:05:20] It depends on the country that receives it, and the mechanism of monitoring it, and the mechanisms [00:05:24] of oversight to implement these projects. The priorities now [00:05:28] in Syria, I expect, are starting reconstruction and the projects that [00:05:31] were presented within these agreements are agreements related to rebuilding the infrastructure [00:05:34] that also contributes to this matter. It is not [00:05:38] a loan, a concessional loan. And we will ask what this means [00:05:41] as well. Today we are talking about a concessional loan and not [00:05:45] grants. Yes. [00:05:48] Yes, the concessional loan also means its conditions are light, [00:05:51] and it is a kind of building, meaning a test for the beginning [00:05:55] of a project, investment projects. The country [00:05:58] that receives these funds may sometimes be free in [00:06:01] how to, meaning, dispose [00:06:05] the priority matter. So if the priority [00:06:08] is towards the need for salaries, it will be so. But if the issue [00:06:11] of salaries has another outlet within the budget [00:06:15] or another grant available with other support, it might go [00:06:19] that way. But the focus now on these projects is that they should be, meaning, the first fruits [00:06:23] of Saudi investment in preparing the infrastructure, which [00:06:26] we also hope will open. So these funds will go [00:06:29] to develop these sectors more than [00:06:32] to be spent on the public sector [00:06:35] related to operating wages for employees. They will have [00:06:39] developmental goals, especially since you mentioned that concessional loans do not [00:06:43] have many difficult conditions. [00:06:45] Exactly, [00:06:48] exactly, exactly. And there is a special mechanism also for monitoring [00:06:52] and following up on the implementation of these projects, which is [00:06:55] agreement. Uh-huh. I mean, given that [00:06:58] there is a monitoring mechanism, we must go here to [00:07:02] Mr. Nasser. Welcome. [00:07:05] What are the conditions that the Kingdom [00:07:08] of Saudi Arabia the Syrian government [00:07:13] in this concessional loan, especially since the sectors are specific, [00:07:16] six sectors? How will these conditions be binding [00:07:20] and how will there be oversight [00:07:34] are very strong and have exceeded [00:07:37] all international relations standards. [00:07:40] Because the Syrian people need the Saudi people [00:07:44] to stand with them, [00:07:48] and the stage that Syria is experiencing [00:07:52] the brothers, led by the Kingdom [00:07:55] of Saudi Arabia. The Kingdom has extended its arms [00:07:59] and opened its heart, and also [00:08:02] opened its doors of support for the Syrian [00:08:06] people. The visit you referred to is [00:08:09] recent, recent in time for [00:08:13] what the Syrian delegation with President [00:08:16] Al-Sharaa and the relevant ministers [00:08:20] for such sectors. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia [00:08:23] discussed, through relations and also [00:08:27] the joint committee, what are the work priorities that [00:08:31] Syria needs, whether it relates [00:08:34] to the needs of the people [00:08:37] in the first place, and also the needs [00:08:40] of the government regarding strengthening its financial position and its stability, [00:08:44] and also maintaining a [00:08:47] stability rate and also stability for the Syrian [00:08:51] lira, because [00:08:54] the Syrian currency, the Kingdom looks at it as a very strong [00:08:59] influencing all these matters. The Kingdom [00:09:03] has opened everything that [00:09:06] with the Syrian brothers through also the priorities [00:09:10] in the government program and [00:09:14] what are the executive steps, because we have [00:09:17] passed the stage of moral partnership [00:09:20] and announcing that and the return [00:09:24] of harmony in Syria and the change [00:09:27] of the regime to the current regime. This role [00:09:30] certainly contributes to the essence of these [00:09:34] agreements and these working [00:09:37] papers that were discussed. So we look, in the Kingdom [00:09:41] of Saudi Arabia, that our role is a pioneering [00:09:44] and leading role [00:09:47] for such matters because we are responsible before the Syrian [00:09:51] people that we are keen to [00:09:54] ensure that the Syrian people and the Syrian government are within [00:09:58] their program and within their direction in the highest [00:10:01] degrees of safety and stability [00:10:04] and also development. Yes, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, as [00:10:08] you mentioned, has been, since the first moment of liberation, standing by [00:10:11] the Syrian people and government, and before that, it stood by the Syrian people. [00:10:15] But before we delve into the details [00:10:18] of the figures, I'll go to Mr. [00:10:22] Mohammed Nasser Hammoum. In your opinion, if this [00:10:25] visit to Saudi Arabia at this time means that [00:10:28] there is an economic impasse suffering [00:10:31] in the country and it was forced [00:10:34] concessional [00:10:48] is that Syria needs to develop these [00:10:51] sectors, and therefore, it went [00:10:55] to Saudi Arabia to sign these agreements and to sign these [00:10:58] concessional development loans [00:11:02] worth 403 million, which [00:11:05] will cover many sectors, [00:11:09] as you stated and as you mentioned. These [00:11:11] loans are commitments and not [00:11:15] grants. If these loans were concessional development [00:11:18] loans, they are loans, [00:11:22] the Syrian government, and therefore, [00:11:26] the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, [00:11:28] as part of its loan plans, stated that [00:11:32] loans are disbursed [00:11:35] based on the percentage of completion. [00:11:38] This is the method of contracting with the Kingdom of [00:11:41] Saudi Arabia. I do not entirely agree with [00:11:44] what you said about these loans going [00:11:48] to pay salaries or pensions [00:11:51] of employees. On the contrary, the Kingdom of Saudi [00:11:55] Arabia grants these loans based [00:11:58] on Mr. Mohammed, we asked if [00:12:02] they would go to operational [00:12:05] salaries or to developmental sectors [00:12:08] to develop them. [00:12:11] Always, always, always, development loans go to [00:12:14] their intended place for the purpose for which they were taken. [00:12:18] Therefore, the Kingdom of Arabia operating [00:12:21] wages are part of developing these sectors. You know [00:12:25] that there are large numbers of public sector employees, [00:12:28] and there is a problem with this. There are, [00:12:31] there are, there are greater needs [00:12:34] than the issue of employee salaries. There are [00:12:37] the electricity sector, the health sector, the civil defense sector, the water sector. [00:12:41] These need repair [00:12:44] and need equipment and tools, [00:12:47] etc. These sectors and this good financial [00:12:51] injection in its place and time [00:12:55] helped with the issue of liquidity pressure, according to [00:12:58] completion rates. It will relieve the burden on the general [00:13:01] budget in some sectors, whether health or [00:13:04] civil defense, etc. All these loans [00:13:07] come as emergency [00:13:11] cases for the situation in [00:13:15] reconstruction and development in Syria. Of course, the size [00:13:18] of the requirements and needs is large, but these [00:13:22] loans come in a state that is an [00:13:25] emergency to begin the process of Syrian development. [00:13:28] Syria is still in the recovery phase, but these concessional [00:13:32] loans, could you explain them to us, especially since it was indicated that [00:13:36] their conditions would be easy or, I mean, there would not [00:13:39] be harsh conditions, presumably? [00:13:43] These restrictions will be disbursed, [00:13:46] these loans according to [00:13:49] the Syrian government, and these loans [00:13:52] will be repaid over a period that [00:13:55] is not long-term, but it is long and concessional, [00:13:58] and I believe it is without interest, etc. Therefore, [00:14:02] it will be easy for the Syrian government to repay [00:14:05] it and fulfill its obligations towards the Kingdom [00:14:08] of Saudi Arabia, thankfully, for these [00:14:11] loans that will help [00:14:13] the Syrian [00:14:16] economy to develop and recover. Yes, Mr. Mustafa, [00:14:19] during this visit, a cooperation agreement [00:14:23] was signed between [00:14:26] the two countries. In your opinion, how will [00:14:29] this agreement take shape, and how can this concessional loan [00:14:33] be utilized within this agreement? I mean, what [00:14:37] kind of agreement is possible for a defense agreement [00:14:41] that the Ministers of Defense in Syria [00:14:44] and the Kingdom of Saudi [00:14:58] the reading [00:15:02] Riyadh recently, or reading what happened in Riyadh, is [00:15:06] related only to the value of the economic agreements that [00:15:09] were signed, or even merely signing a defense [00:15:13] cooperation agreement, frankly. Secondly, [00:15:16] I do not believe that concessional loans are even linked [00:15:20] to the issue of the defense cooperation [00:15:23] agreement that already took place between [00:15:40] the strategic, political, and military levels more [00:15:44] broadly. The question that [00:15:46] arises, what, I mean, the question that we should [00:15:50] be discussing now is not what the Kingdom [00:15:53] of Saudi Arabia will offer to Syria, whether it concerns the Ministry [00:15:57] of Defense or the security aspect, but rather what is the role [00:16:00] or what is the place that Syria will occupy in [00:16:03] the regional security equation, frankly? I mean, [00:16:06] if we read the agreement [00:16:09] from, I mean, militarily, I mean, frankly, we [00:16:13] do not focus on merely signing an agreement, but rather [00:16:15] what are the clauses, commitments, and defensive [00:16:19] capabilities and commitments? But [00:16:22] ultimately, the equation has winners. It is supposed to be [00:16:25] what Saudi Arabia will offer to Syria in defense matters, [00:16:29] and what Syria will offer [00:16:30] in return. [00:16:33] There must be winners in this [00:16:35] equation. [00:16:38] True, true. We are facing a defense cooperation [00:16:40] agreement, and we must differentiate between a defense cooperation [00:16:44] agreement and a joint defense alliance agreement. [00:16:48] There is, I mean, there is a difference between the two. I mean, [00:16:53] that have taken place currently, we are talking about a defense [00:16:56] cooperation agreement. Yes, both parties benefit from it. [00:17:00] The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia benefits from it. The Syrian state [00:17:04] benefits from it. Each has their strategic goals, and each has interests, and there are common [00:17:07] interests, and there are overlaps, my lady. [00:17:11] the regional level of what the Kingdom [00:17:14] of Saudi Arabia is suffering from in regional issues and what Syria is suffering from. [00:17:17] And we want to talk. There is a party, for the Kingdom [00:17:21] of Saudi Arabia, related to militias present in a neighboring [00:17:28] the Syrian borders militias tampering with [00:17:31] some matters in the Syrian security [00:17:34] files. There is [00:17:37] a wide regional war being waged by the United States [00:17:41] of America and Israel against Iran. It includes Saudi Arabia. Iran [00:17:44] is attacking sites in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and there is [00:17:48] also a country attacking Syria [00:17:51] and entering southern Syria and [00:17:54] tampering with Syrian security. So if we [00:17:57] want to talk more broadly, there are common interests between [00:18:00] the two countries. There is a common [00:18:04] vision for Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and for President Ahmed. [00:18:08] There is a common vision for the entire regional file. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia [00:18:11] seeks for Syria to be a pivotal state, a state that achieves [00:18:15] regional security, a state that can protect [00:18:18] its borders. I mean, this is a strategic interest for [00:18:21] the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Therefore, we are witnessing [00:18:25] cooperation on the security and military [00:18:28] sides. In detail, how will [00:18:31] this defense cooperation be? What can [00:18:34] the two parties offer each other, especially since, as you said, [00:18:38] it comes amid regional transformations and, [00:18:42] perhaps, strategic changes in the region? I'll go [00:18:45] back to Dr. Abdul Basit. [00:18:48] What about Syria's policy [00:18:51] of not borrowing? Has Syria started to change [00:18:55] this policy, and is this concessional loan [00:18:58] it received from the Kingdom of [00:19:02] Saudi Arabia the beginning of going [00:19:05] for loans, and perhaps later, Syria will go to the International Monetary [00:19:08] Fund? [00:19:12] Yes, indeed, perhaps Syria was slow in moving towards [00:19:15] the issue of loans, especially large conditional loans or World Bank [00:19:19] loans. But at the same time, it opened the door for the International Monetary Fund and the World [00:19:23] Bank to come to Syria and reconsider and re-engage if [00:19:26] it is able to provide certain grants that raise [00:19:30] the level of digital transformation and financial transformation in Syria [00:19:33] from its side, in addition to the fact that Syria needs these grants. These are grants provided by [00:19:37] the international community from these two institutions, the International Monetary Fund [00:19:41] and the World Bank. Syria also, in its policy, [00:19:44] was trying to support the Syrian people themselves, [00:19:47] or Syrian traders, Syrian investors, they are the ones [00:19:52] the Syrian economy and investment opportunities. Is it expected [00:19:56] to give up on it, or is there a change starting [00:19:59] with, I mean, concessional loans, and we go to [00:20:02] larger conditional loans, especially, we repeat again, the relationship [00:20:06] with the International Monetary Fund? [00:20:13] Exactly, it started as grants, but there is no doubt that Syria is now subject to some [00:20:16] political pressures that might make it, I mean, face an exacerbation [00:20:20] of the economic issue and an inability to manage it effectively, [00:20:24] which could be one of the matters on the table: [00:20:28] going towards borrowing from the International Monetary [00:20:31] Fund and the World Bank. The fear from this cooperation or this [00:20:35] from these loans is that they might be an entry point, that they might be, [00:20:38] controlling the political decision in Syria. So far, [00:20:41] there is no such strong trend from the broad door. [00:20:45] There is reliance on Arab investments [00:20:49] gradual rapprochement politically, and [00:20:54] investment and the economy coming to Syria based on [00:20:57] readings that might differ from one country to another, but [00:21:01] the serious Saudi intervention in, I mean, supporting, [00:21:04] I mean, with projects, even if they are small developmental ones, this gives an indication [00:21:07] of stability and seriousness that [00:21:11] everyone else can also come with this seriousness and trust. Syria, I mean, [00:21:15] relies on its investment [00:21:18] recovering on their own, but [00:21:20] time needs support from real and serious partners. Ah. [00:21:23] Okay, Dr. Nasser, [00:21:27] the emergency and civil defense sector leads [00:21:30] these or this loan with an amount of [00:21:33] 105 million US dollars. [00:21:36] in particular? Perhaps the issue [00:21:40] falls under the "Syria without [00:21:43] camps" plan? Why is support for this sector [00:21:46] in particular, or the largest amount of the loan, going to this sector in particular? [00:22:04] the financial aspect, [00:22:07] the Kingdom of Saudi [00:22:11] Arabia does not go to [00:22:13] the International [00:22:15] Monetary Fund project, nor the World Bank, nor even [00:22:19] countries that go to countries, even if they are [00:22:22] neighboring or from the context [00:22:26] of its policy to benefit from these [00:22:29] loans. The Kingdom does not look for the loan to be [00:22:32] beneficial for its own [00:22:35] interest. It wants to give [00:22:38] and provide financial coverage [00:22:41] to the Syrian government, because [00:22:44] the Syrian government needs such a Saudi role [00:22:47] and on the brothers. [00:22:52] the Arab world, and I do not think that the Arab [00:22:55] world is capable of that, but [00:22:59] the Gulf specifically, and here comes [00:23:01] the role of the Syrian [00:23:04] government in activating the relationship [00:23:07] between current Syria [00:23:09] and some countries that [00:23:12] have the ability and potential to go [00:23:16] to Dr. Nasser, during the past period, there has been an activation [00:23:20] of relations between the Syrian state [00:23:23] and the Arab Gulf states on the political level and on [00:23:26] the level of meetings. What has [00:23:29] changed now? What has changed now? Can we say [00:23:33] that a new phase has begun with real support from Gulf [00:23:37] countries, from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia at its head, that [00:23:40] we will see real financial support different from [00:23:43] the past phase? And why now? Allow me, [00:23:46] sister Ruba, give me a chance to clarify this [00:23:50] message to the Syrian people. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, [00:23:54] as you mentioned, and we know that, and this [00:23:58] is our duty, and this is our destiny, and this [00:24:01] the Syrian people and any Arab [00:24:06] the Syrian people to restore their position, [00:24:10] their life, and their stability, [00:24:13] Syrian goods were, until recently, and Syrian products [00:24:17] were the former [00:24:21] regime, [00:24:23] may God keep it away from the hearts [00:24:26] of Syrians, the Kingdom has a vision, [00:24:29] and has the ability, [00:24:32] and also has a challenge to [00:24:36] restore Syria to what it was, to the extent that [00:24:39] the Kingdom can, whether it concerns lifting [00:24:42] sanctions, what Prince Mohammed did with [00:24:46] the Syrian government and with [00:24:49] the American president. We, in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, [00:24:53] as a people and a leadership, [00:24:56] view this role as a beginning and not [00:25:00] an end. A beginning, [00:25:02] Syria cannot absorb astronomical [00:25:06] figures of loans and funds [00:25:09] that might go in directions like what is happening [00:25:12] now in the brotherly country of Iraq. We [00:25:16] believe that the amount of rain, when it falls [00:25:19] gently, benefits the earth, not storms, [00:25:22] and not this matter. Regarding [00:25:26] the concessional loans, [00:25:29] they are open in terms of time [00:25:32] and for a specific time, but also the Kingdom has [00:25:36] a desire for Syria to achieve the potential [00:25:40] to develop and invest such funds. The other [00:25:44] matter, in the most important [00:25:46] vision, is that there are those who play in [00:25:50] outer space, [00:25:53] social media, or ill-wishers, or [00:25:56] those who harm the Saudi government [00:26:00] and the brothers in Syria, that [00:26:03] the agreement is military between them. The goal [00:26:06] of that is the integration of the role between the Kingdom [00:26:09] and Syria. We are all in one boat, [00:26:13] and the region is heading for major changes. The Kingdom [00:26:16] looks at what is happening today, [00:26:19] specifically what is happening in some parts of [00:26:23] the Syrian people or lands from unrest. The Kingdom does not want [00:26:26] such things to continue, like what happened with ISIS [00:26:30] and what happened with the previous regime. The Kingdom will be [00:26:34] by Syria's side, [00:26:37] relationship is not defined by what [00:26:40] is measured by a ruler and pencil. The Saudi-Syrian [00:26:43] relationship is a blood relationship, [00:26:47] a dialogue relationship for the future, [00:26:51] building Syria and building Saudi Arabia [00:26:54] to be, because Syria is, [00:26:57] I mean, it is the incubator [00:26:59] for Arab work in the region, [00:27:03] and we see it as our depth. Syria [00:27:06] and Iraq are also another depth, but we lost them at [00:27:09] one point and they went out of [00:27:13] the priorities. We are restoring what was between us, and this [00:27:16] is certainly what is happening. As for the upcoming [00:27:19] developmental projects, they are [00:27:23] the beginning of a first harvest and a very large [00:27:26] number and astronomical figures. We will not talk about this [00:27:30] specific point. What are the future lines? Because it seems, [00:27:33] as Dr. Nasser said, there is a new policy related [00:27:37] to loans, support, and grants [00:27:41] provided to Syria by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in more than [00:27:59] institutions, the World Bank and the International Monetary [00:28:02] Fund, and some of the sectors in which the Kingdom played [00:28:06] a very significant role that it did not announce, [00:28:09] not announce what it achieves. It pressured [00:28:12] these two international institutions [00:28:16] the Syrian people, to stand [00:28:19] with them and also the European group. [00:28:22] It also played with the United States of America on the issue of lifting [00:28:26] sanctions. This was a clear role and clear [00:28:29] white hands from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The political aspect, [00:28:33] the support aspect. However, this [00:28:36] international institution bears a large part of [00:28:40] its responsibility towards restoring the Syrian people to [00:28:43] their previous life. Yes, yes. Mr. [00:28:46] Mohammed Hammou, if we ask you also, within all these projects, [00:28:49] and because we want to talk in numbers, in your opinion, [00:28:53] the distribution of these 403 million dollars to [00:28:56] sectors, led by the emergency and civil [00:28:59] defense sector, does it really mean, as I asked Dr. Nasser a little while ago, [00:29:02] because it will serve its plan for a Syria without camps, and this is [00:29:06] a very important point, and [00:29:10] our Syrian [00:29:13] the camps are waiting for it and want to return to their [00:29:16] original [00:29:19] areas. My dear, first of all, [00:29:22] it is necessary to define matters one way or another. It is [00:29:27] the economy. Both the Syrian [00:29:30] and Saudi governments realize that if these development [00:29:34] loans exist, there must be a defensive plan in order [00:29:38] to ensure the continuity [00:29:41] and survival of these development projects, and thus [00:29:44] the economy. The summary of the agreements [00:29:48] that took place between the Syrian government and [00:29:51] the Saudi government is actually the [00:29:55] development of the civil defense sector because it is a sector [00:29:58] that needs equipment and needs [00:30:01] mechanisms. It needs a plan [00:30:04] and equipment that is non-combat [00:30:09] sector and prepare it well. This comes within [00:30:13] the framework and scope of the plan to end the displacement in [00:30:16] Syria and comes within the plan [00:30:18] to end the situation of the displaced [00:30:22] and refugees and camps, and this also comes in support [00:30:26] of the housing development sector and the [00:30:29] health sector, and thus giving this priority to the Ministry [00:30:32] of Emergency [00:30:35] with non-combat equipment [00:30:38] sector to redevelop and [00:30:41] house, in addition to rehabilitating damaged housing units with [00:30:45] 60 million dollars, and this confirms your words, meaning it confirms your words [00:30:53] and securing civil defense