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[00:00:00] journalists, that is, to tell things as they are and not
[00:00:03] necessarily as they want us
[00:00:05] to tell them.
[00:00:08] We want to have great minds talking about the
[00:00:11] most important issues that affect our countries,
[00:00:14] us as people.
[00:00:18] I have a responsibility to tell the truth, to be truthful, not to be
[00:00:22] neutral, these are very
[00:00:24] society. different things. Oppenheimer presents on Sunday on
[00:00:27] CNN, next.
[00:00:31] Do you believe there is a need to tell
[00:01:03] The authorities of Guatemala reinforced the surveillance around the Fuego volcano,
[00:01:06] one of the most active in all of Central America. The Institute of
[00:01:10] Seismology, Volcanology, Meteorology
[00:01:13] and Hydrology, reported that the volcano continues with intense
[00:01:16] activity that continues to increase and includes emissions of
[00:01:20] ash, gases and lava fragments. Due to the increase in
[00:01:23] activity, preventive evacuations began in nearby communities.
[00:01:27] So far, about 1,700 people have been
[00:01:31] transferred to five shelters. Some classes were
[00:01:34] suspended in nearby municipalities and tourist access to the
[00:01:37] volcanoes of Acatenango
[00:01:41] and Fuego was also restricted, and surveillance is maintained over the area that could be
[00:01:45] affected by the ashes.
[00:02:53] I am Mexican-British. I have been working in
[00:02:56] journalism for 20 years in Mexico City, in the United
[00:03:00] States and now in Miami for CNN. CNN
[00:03:04] América is a multi-platform program where you will
[00:03:07] have information from all areas that will allow you
[00:03:11] to understand the world from the angle you are viewing it.
[00:03:15] In those three hours, you will not only have information from a
[00:03:18] political-economic sphere, but also
[00:03:22] health, from a women's sphere, but above all, it is a
[00:03:25] space where we can have conversations not to
[00:03:28] polarize, but to integrate society.
[00:03:31] sociedad,
[00:03:33] What excites me the most is to inform, inquire,
[00:03:37] investigate the why of things, get to the bottom of the facts.
[00:03:41] Here you will see what makes
[00:03:43] Cuba, let's go with news and everything that impacts your daily life. CNN América with Rebeca
[00:03:47] Kelly, Monday to Friday on CNN.
[00:04:00] I ask you, from this moment on, to accompany me using the hashtag Conclu
[00:04:03] tariffs and remember that I receive all your comments on my account on
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[00:04:11] Donald Trump's trade war now faces a new
[00:04:14] obstacle, but this time within the United States,
[00:04:18] 25 states of the United States filed a lawsuit against the
[00:04:21] Trump administration for the new round of tariffs affecting
[00:04:25] imports from 60 countries. This
[00:04:28] legal action by the states, particularly Democrats,
[00:04:32] is led by attorneys general from states such as New
[00:04:35] York, California, Arizona, New Jersey, among
[00:04:39] others. Lawyers assure that these measures are illegal and
[00:04:42] that they will end up increasing costs for American families and
[00:04:46] businesses, if they haven't already. But the debate is not
[00:04:49] only in the US courts. In Mexico, President
[00:04:53] Claudia Sheinbaum has also questioned the tariff
[00:04:56] strategy of her partner, of the partners of...
[00:05:00] Mexico, United States, let's listen,
[00:05:03] we have not agreed with the tariffs, that is known,
[00:05:06] well, practically no country, because
[00:05:09] we consider that there are other mechanisms in any case to...
[00:05:12] strengthen an economic region against
[00:05:15] another and not the
[00:05:17] scheme
[00:05:20] of eh of thinking only, in
[00:05:23] particular in our case, it is better to think about
[00:05:27] North America with the trade treaty we have,
[00:05:30] compared to other regions of the world, to strengthen ourselves as a
[00:05:34] region, rather than setting internal
[00:05:37] limits.
[00:05:42] tariff policy comes after the Donald Trump administration had already
[00:05:46] faced a judicial setback in its country on tariff
[00:05:49] policy. Let's recall: on February 20,
[00:05:53] 2026, the US Supreme Court did not authorize President
[00:05:57] Trump to impose global tariffs. In March, the
[00:06:00] US government initiated trade investigations against
[00:06:03] 59 countries and the European Union. By July,
[00:06:07] the United States announced new tariffs, the Office of the
[00:06:10] Trade Representative has proposed tariffs of between 10 and
[00:06:14] 12.5% depending on the country. On
[00:06:17] July 23, 2026, Trump activated a new
[00:06:21] round of tariffs and the White House imposed these
[00:06:24] levies on imports from dozens of countries under section
[00:06:28] 301 on forced labor until
[00:06:32] we reach August 3 when 25 states sued the
[00:06:35] government. There have been other issues, other sections, of course,
[00:06:39] that we will now start to comment on, the Trump government.
[00:06:42] justifies these tariffs as a tool to respond to
[00:06:45] alleged forced labor practices in international supply
[00:06:49] chains, but the plaintiff states say that
[00:06:53] this explanation is just a justification for imposing new
[00:06:55] taxes on imports across the board. This
[00:06:59] confrontation raises a key question: are Trump's tariffs
[00:07:03] a pressure tool for negotiation or a policy that already
[00:07:07] affects consumers
[00:07:08] themselves?
[00:07:14] we analyze all this and what it may mean for the
[00:07:18] region, for Mexico and for obviously 60 countries. I welcome
[00:07:22] the economic and political analyst Alejandra Kulen. What a
[00:07:26] pleasure to greet you, Alejandro. It's a great pleasure to greet you here in conclusions. Let's
[00:07:30] see, these are different sections that Donald Trump has used, ranging from
[00:07:33] 232, which remains, to 301, 338, in
[00:07:37] short, a wide range of possibilities of legal tools
[00:07:41] that go in a single direction: reconfigure
[00:07:44] eh, it's the truth, as he has
[00:07:48] said, the intention is to reduce the trade deficit that the United States has
[00:07:52] with the world.
[00:08:11] think it's a... combination of wanting to reduce the trade
[00:08:14] deficit that Donald Trump for some reason considers
[00:08:18] harmful, combined with a search to finance
[00:08:22] the American budget deficit through
[00:08:25] tariffs and to try to make both exporting
[00:08:29] countries and American consumers
[00:08:32] pay the debt that
[00:08:35] the United States has. Let's remember the size of the
[00:08:38] deficit at this moment and tariffs are a
[00:08:42] mechanism where instead of directly raising taxes,
[00:08:46] politically he sells it as an impact on
[00:08:50] exporting countries and a mechanism
[00:08:53] supposedly to strengthen the domestic market. In
[00:08:56] this attempt to strengthen the domestic
[00:09:00] market and supposedly reduce the trade deficit, what
[00:09:04] ends up happening is that the one who suffers the most is the American
[00:09:07] consumer, Mario. So it's a
[00:09:11] game of... geopolitics, that is, where
[00:09:14] it is affecting exporting countries and in
[00:09:17] particular China, all the regions that had
[00:09:21] benefits are now harmed, or by one
[00:09:24] or another of the tariff measures that Trump
[00:09:27] is constantly
[00:09:29] seeking.
[00:09:32] Now, you say to avoid applying taxes that are always
[00:09:36] unpopular and especially in a pre-election context,
[00:09:39] but finally they are taxes. Can we see it that
[00:09:43] way, an indirect tax, Alejandra?
[00:09:46] That is, de facto it is a direct tax on the American
[00:09:49] consumer, but he can sell it politically
[00:09:53] as an impact
[00:09:55] on the exporter, on the exporting country.
[00:09:59] So he argues a reduction in the trade deficit when in
[00:10:03] reality what he is looking for is to generate new income for
[00:10:06] the United States. There is no way to understand it otherwise beyond,
[00:10:10] of course, the fight. political he has with China, which
[00:10:14] is, let's say, his true objective or
[00:10:17] his target, as they say in the United States, eh, because
[00:10:21] he is trying to rebalance not only the trade balance,
[00:10:25] but also trying to protect all data centers, all
[00:10:29] American technology industry
[00:10:32] and the automotive industry that is competing directly
[00:10:35] with China. Today
[00:10:39] the argument of forced labor of
[00:10:42] countries that consume goods that in turn imply forced
[00:10:46] labor, this was a law from 1974
[00:10:50] that has nothing to do with an environment of free trade with low
[00:10:54] tariffs, as has been experienced in the last
[00:10:57] 20 years, eh, it seems to me a very
[00:11:00] dangerous measure, not only because it unbalances the
[00:11:04] American internal market, but because many of these products that are
[00:11:08] affected, there are perishable goods, food,
[00:11:11] but also much of the manufacturing industry
[00:11:15] that the United States does not necessarily can
[00:11:18] produce today, because salaries are too high
[00:11:22] and the industry becomes uncompetitive in this
[00:11:25] type of segments. So the imbalance in the world
[00:11:29] market that it is generating is brutal, but in the
[00:11:32] process it is collecting a very significant amount,
[00:11:36] that's why Democrats are already looking for a political
[00:11:39] measure to address
[00:11:41] it.
[00:11:44] there is ideology, there is an ideology, a redesign
[00:11:48] of the rules of the game at the international level,
[00:11:51] because you already mention two issues, that is, the tariff part. goes one
[00:11:55] way and Donald Trump wants to bring industrial reactivation
[00:11:58] back to the United States, complicated, but
[00:12:02] well, this, this speaks
[00:12:04] of a reconfiguration,
[00:12:06] I insist, is there an ideology behind that or is it more
[00:12:09] pragmatism? Let's see, I think it's pragmatism to
[00:12:12] directly address his voters. Let's remember
[00:12:16] that the average Trump voter is an average, he is a
[00:12:19] middle-class voter, much of
[00:12:23] the population that was displaced by manufacturing
[00:12:26] industry from other countries, of course,
[00:12:29] starting with Mexico, with China, eh, with
[00:12:33] Vietnam, with many of the countries that have a much more efficient
[00:12:36] manufacturing industry than the American one, or much
[00:12:40] cheaper, let's put it that way, eh, is the one
[00:12:43] that was benefiting from free
[00:12:47] trade, but the low-skilled
[00:12:51] American workers who lost their jobs
[00:12:53] and who have to readjust
[00:12:57] because they need to train to
[00:13:01] enter the service market or
[00:13:04] directly into the technology market, well, they were the ones
[00:13:07] most affected and they are Trump's average voter.
[00:13:11] Today, with the elections just a couple of months away,
[00:13:15] eh, I think it's part of Donald Trump's completely pragmatic
[00:13:18] policy to generate external
[00:13:21] income through tariffs
[00:13:25] and simultaneously try to send
[00:13:27] a signal of attention to this segment
[00:13:31] of voters, which is the one that follows him,
[00:13:35] it is his hard base in
[00:13:37] the United States. It will
[00:13:40] not necessarily work because as we
[00:13:44] know, his popularity today is
[00:13:46] very low, however, the reconfiguration of the districts, the
[00:13:50] redistricting of the United States possibly
[00:13:54] ends up benefiting him in the
[00:13:56] midterm elections coming in
[00:13:58] November.
[00:14:02] Now, in the midst of this redesign, a war came in which it
[00:14:05] seems that things have not gone very well due to the situation with oil
[00:14:09] and the rise in fuel prices, but if you agree, we'll come back to that. Allow me a
[00:14:13] break and I'll return with the economic and political analyst Alejandra Kuren
[00:14:17] here in conclusions,
[00:14:18] we'll be back.
[00:14:28] Yes, yes, it's clear, and it's good that you're back, you've said
[00:14:32] it at the beginning of the program, that is, well, assuming that
[00:14:35] eh this transition occurs, because there are a series of
[00:14:38] questions that you have explained very well, that is, that
[00:14:42] this from the start means well, maybe this is not
[00:14:45] as immediate as we think, second, the point of
[00:14:48] transparency, of maintaining transparency, which well
[00:14:52] put us in the spotlight, Berna, who has been
[00:14:55] tremendously a positive asset and a great
[00:14:58] asset of the institution, and then fundamentally the
[00:15:02] structure of a strong Fed
[00:15:06] with that complexity it has right
[00:15:09] now regionally, it's a strength, it's a strength.
[00:15:25] To understand the world, you need to seek
[00:15:28] the truth. Let's return to the era when we had to be much
[00:15:31] more human, that's why we follow the facts,
[00:15:35] wherever they lead us, no matter what.
[00:16:08] We follow what matters to you,
[00:16:11] we forge a path towards truth and understanding of the world.
[00:17:32] I am Elizabeth González in Panama City, we are
[00:17:35] CNN.
[00:17:41] Well, we continue with the topic of tariffs with Alejandra Kullen, the political
[00:17:45] economy analyst, economy and politics,
[00:17:48] eh, you were already telling us, Alejandra, let's see, it seems that we
[00:17:51] will see if it works or not, it seems that many things are not working because what
[00:17:54] we see of the approval, the popularity of President Donald Trump is getting
[00:17:58] worse towards the elections. Now,
[00:18:02] eh, world trade, do you think it is
[00:18:06] changing? Could it be as it was before Donald Trump's second administration?
[00:18:09] Have things already been disrupted and
[00:18:13] will we hardly ever see that again?
[00:18:17] Look, it is very difficult for it to return in the short term to the state it was
[00:18:21] in before. Let's remember that these treaties are based on
[00:18:25] trust, on trust between countries and on trust
[00:18:28] between leaders. The way Donald Trump has eh
[00:18:32] mistreated his trading partners, not only
[00:18:35] Mexico and Canada, who are of course
[00:18:38] among the first affected, but many of the countries with which
[00:18:41] he had different types of agreements and simply
[00:18:45] abruptly and without prior negotiation began to impose
[00:18:48] tariffs since he came to power in January
[00:18:51] 2025. This generates not
[00:18:55] only distrust between countries with the United
[00:18:58] States, but also a reconfiguration of
[00:19:02] the markets that are being affected by the
[00:19:05] fall or loss of access to the North
[00:19:09] American market. So some begin to form alliances
[00:19:12] among themselves, others are directly trying to form alliances
[00:19:16] with China, only China is not a market
[00:19:19] for exporters, because China only sells. A
[00:19:23] country like Mexico, to use an
[00:19:26] example that seems to me very representative,
[00:19:30] because it was one of the closest partners and where the most
[00:19:33] trust had been developed between
[00:19:36] the two countries and between the businesspeople of the two countries, well,
[00:19:40] today they live with the expectation of how they will be treated
[00:19:44] each year when this treaty is reviewed,
[00:19:47] which, as we know, Donald
[00:19:50] Trump decided not to renew directly,
[00:19:54] so every year there will have to be a review
[00:19:57] over 10 years if we are
[00:20:00] lucky and a good agreement is reached between new leaders,
[00:20:04] eventually a common market
[00:20:08] system will be rebuilt. Meanwhile,
[00:20:12] it is difficult the way investors make
[00:20:15] their decisions to invest in a country.
[00:20:19] I return to the Mexican example, which is
[00:20:21] similar to the Vietnamese, more
[00:20:24] intense because the relationship was more intense, but a North
[00:20:27] American businessman who decided to have
[00:20:30] an assembly plant for cars,
[00:20:33] for some computer, for example,
[00:20:37] well, some of the parts were obtained in Mexico,
[00:20:41] assembled in Mexico and the semi-finished product
[00:20:44] arrived in the United
[00:20:47] States and was finished in the United States. Some
[00:20:50] products even passed through all three countries. Nowadays,
[00:20:54] for an American investor, it is difficult
[00:20:57] to decide to invest in Mexico, because
[00:21:01] not necessarily the conditions of free
[00:21:03] trade of finished or semi-finished
[00:21:07] products will be the
[00:21:10] same.
[00:21:14] Now, Alejandra, effectively in terms of
[00:21:18] decision, yes.
[00:21:23] Now, despite that, Mexico continues to break export records
[00:21:27] to the United States, despite tariffs, most products are
[00:21:30] still protected by the USMCA, by the trade
[00:21:33] agreement, a small part not, but despite that,
[00:21:37] it continues to export, it continues to consolidate itself as the first trading partner, that is,
[00:21:41] something is happening there that it is clear that
[00:21:44] trade will continue, the United States needs
[00:21:46] it.
[00:21:50] Mexico has the geographical
[00:21:53] advantage of being the southern neighbor and
[00:21:56] where a good part of the north of our country
[00:21:59] has been adapting over the
[00:22:02] last 30 years to have a
[00:22:05] connection structure with the United States. What has happened
[00:22:08] is an internal reengineering and what
[00:22:12] used to be the export of automobiles and auto parts
[00:22:16] that was our main export to the United
[00:22:19] States. Today it became some
[00:22:22] of the electronics of products that are
[00:22:26] part of the pieces used in data centers in the
[00:22:29] United States, many chips that come from Taiwan are assembled
[00:22:33] in pieces in Mexico and from here enter the United States. So
[00:22:37] again, Mexico has the geographical advantage
[00:22:41] and has cheaper labor than, for example, the
[00:22:43] Canadian, but simply what you have had is a
[00:22:47] reconfiguration of the Mexican export industry. Of
[00:22:50] course, of course, all the part of primary
[00:22:54] products, avocado, tomato, well,
[00:22:58] sometimes they try to stop it with some tariffs, but the American
[00:23:01] demand is of such magnitude that
[00:23:04] even if Trump wants to stop it, it cannot
[00:23:07] be stopped, and the transportation costs are undoubtedly
[00:23:11] the lowest due to the
[00:23:33] medical attention, but his family demands
[00:23:36] answers, now the center where he was detained becomes the center
[00:23:40] of a controversy as well,
[00:23:42] we'll be back.
[00:24:19] first thing.
[00:24:23] I'm going with Yone Molinares to the Capitol, they have already prepared
[00:24:26] the funds for the Department of Homeland Security. When there is a lot at
[00:24:29] stake, we eliminate the noise to inform you clearly
[00:24:33] about the issues and policies that impact you, from the decisions made
[00:24:37] in Washington to their repercussions throughout
[00:24:40] the United States, Latin America and the world. At what point are
[00:24:44] relations with the United States? Relations between the United
[00:24:47] States and Cuba have always been
[00:24:50] direct and abnormal. USA is that window through which you can enter
[00:24:54] the United States and see what is happening in this
[00:24:57] country. We follow the story from all angles
[00:25:00] to bring you the facts directly. Pro-immigrant
[00:25:04] groups filed a
[00:25:07] lawsuit. From our studios in Washington, I am Juan Carlos
[00:25:10] López. Join me on Directo USA Monday to Friday
[00:25:14] on CNN. Our obligation as journalists is
[00:25:18] to tell things as they are and not necessarily as they want us to
[00:25:21] tell them.
[00:25:24] We want to have great minds talking about the
[00:25:27] most important issues that affect our countries,
[00:25:31] us as people.
[00:25:34] I have a responsibility to tell the truth, to be truthful, not to
[00:25:38] be neutral, these are very different things. Oppenheimer
[00:25:41] presents on Sunday on
[00:25:44] CNN.
[00:25:46] I am Mexican-British. I have been working in journalism
[00:25:50] in Mexico City, in the United
[00:25:53] States and now in Miami for CNN. CNN
[00:25:57] América is a multi-platform program where you will
[00:26:01] have information from all areas that will allow you
[00:26:04] to understand the world from the angle you are viewing it.
[00:26:08] In those three hours, you will not only have information from a political-economic
[00:26:12] sphere, but also health,
[00:26:16] from a women's sphere, but above all, it is a space where
[00:26:19] we can have conversations not to polarize, but
[00:26:23] to integrate
[00:26:27] What excites me the most is to inform, inquire,
[00:26:30] investigate the why of things,
[00:26:33] get to the bottom of the facts. Here you will see what makes news
[00:26:36] and everything that impacts your daily life. CNN América
[00:26:40] with Rebeca Kelly, Monday to Friday on
[00:26:42] CNN.
[00:26:47] The death of a Salvadoran this weekend week, while in the custody
[00:26:51] of Elice, of the US immigration and customs enforcement, reinforces
[00:26:54] the criticism about the conditions in which migrants
[00:26:58] are kept in the hands of the federal government. Marlon Soto
[00:27:01] has more for us.
[00:27:03] an excellent son, he had a little girl, he
[00:27:07] was a good father, this is how Maria Cornejo remembers her son
[00:27:11] Edwin, the last immigrant who died while in the custody of the US Immigration and Customs
[00:27:15] Enforcement AIS. The Salvadoran died this
[00:27:18] Saturday after suffering a medical emergency at the Lany Hall detention center in New
[00:27:22] York, New Jersey, according to the agency, the cause of death is still under
[00:27:26] investigation, he was my second
[00:27:28] son and I have lost him at the hands
[00:27:32] of. of immigration,
[00:27:35] I don't have this pain how to
[00:27:38] cure it, because it leaves me with a very
[00:27:42] deep pain, my son. Lopez
[00:27:44] Cornejo is the second immigrant to die in custody at the New Jersey detention
[00:27:48] center since it opened in May 2025. He joins a
[00:27:52] list of more than 50 immigrants who have lost their lives in federal custody
[00:27:55] since Donald Trump returned to the White House. Ice said in a
[00:27:59] statement that Lopez Cornejo illegally entered the country in 2006. and was
[00:28:02] deported that year, adding that he re-entered the country without permission
[00:28:05] later and on June 18th he was detained in Plainfield, New
[00:28:09] Jersey, he was awaiting deportation, the agency assures that
[00:28:13] it complied with its job, in a statement, it said
[00:28:15] that during his detention, Lopez Cornejo
[00:28:19] received adequate medical attention and was
[00:28:21] examined by medical professionals. Ice is
[00:28:25] committed to ensuring that all persons in
[00:28:28] custody reside in safe, protected
[00:28:32] and humane environments. and while the family and several organizations that defend
[00:28:35] immigrants demand answers, there are those who wonder if
[00:28:38] Lopez Cornejo's death will truly be the last in this
[00:28:42] aggressive deportation campaign promoted by the
[00:28:45] White House. Marlon Sorto, CNN,
[00:28:48] Atlanta.
[00:28:52] Thunderstorms have interrupted Cuba's efforts to restore power,
[00:28:56] authorities reported, less than a day after the country
[00:28:59] suffered its sixth.
[00:29:03] national of the year, our colleague Juan Carlos Lopez sent
[00:29:06] us this
[00:29:07] report,
[00:29:13] suddenly they don't listen, but there are families singing, children crying are heard,
[00:29:17] it's part of the night routine here in the banana.
[00:29:42] doing this work there in
[00:29:46] the video of the Fuego volcano there in Guatemala,
[00:29:50] these are shocking images and truly beautiful nature also
[00:29:53] then offers us this opportunity with its risk of
[00:29:56] course, but what spectacular images the Fuego
[00:30:00] volcano gives us there in.
[00:30:02] With that we say goodbye, have an excellent night, we await you tomorrow here in conclusions.
[00:30:37] I am Juan Carlos Lopez, welcome to clash of opinion.