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[00:00:00] all the walls of the building, I went out and counted all the people in the street, I
[00:00:03] was in pajamas, without shoes and nothing, the fright I had was so
[00:00:07] great,
[00:00:09] eh, you are a content creator, you have recorded some videos that we are going to
[00:00:13] share throughout this talk, where it is seen that you grabbed
[00:00:17] your dog and started to go down the stairs
[00:00:19] desperately,
[00:00:21] eh, that was something instinctive, did you know what had to be done or as
[00:00:25] soon as it started to shake, the first thing you thought was, we have to
[00:00:28] get out of here, I mean, the first thing I always think of is having my cell phone in
[00:00:32] my hand and well I saw my little dog at one point, doctor, I said no
[00:00:35] I have to run because I was on a fifth floor and since it moved so hard I say I either go out
[00:00:39] now or I have to stay here, so I said no, I have to run because it's shaking,
[00:00:42] the earthquake was so strong that you could
[00:00:46] hear everything falling, everything falling, everything falling and I said no, I have to run, I run
[00:00:50] or something could happen to me.
[00:00:53] Eh, how is your building? We see that from the videos the walls have
[00:00:57] suffered great cracks, but I say what happened finally after
[00:01:00] the earthquake, what has happened to the building you lived in?
[00:01:04] Eh, an inspection was carried out by the engineers and they realized that the structural
[00:01:08] part of the columns had not been affected, however
[00:01:11] many walls, a part of the aqueduct, also
[00:01:15] several pipes broke so it is necessary to make some repairs to be able to put the
[00:01:19] water back, organize stucco walls, but thank God the columns were not
[00:01:22] directly affected, however in my city buildings completely collapsed,
[00:01:27] uh, well, totally, for example in front of the Catholic University a building collapsed completely, and
[00:01:31] there are approximately five deceased in the city of Manizales
[00:01:34] and well, rescue efforts continue to see if there are more people
[00:01:38] affected. Can you go back to your
[00:01:41] apartment today, beyond whether you want to or not, I mean, are the conditions
[00:01:45] such that you can go back to your house to sleep or has everything been so
[00:01:49] destroyed that you couldn't even do that, beyond the fact that there is no structural
[00:01:53] damage? Let's say that my apartment, since it was on the
[00:01:56] top floor, did not have as much damage, it was more
[00:02:00] than anything the first two floors, so I can sleep because there was no structural
[00:02:04] failure, but however for today, for peace of mind, I think I'll be with my
[00:02:08] family, I uploaded some videos to my accounts on tiktok, Instagram,
[00:02:11] YouTube, Facebook, which is María Cerra Yaguevara, and at the end
[00:02:14] I showed my family when I met them and well, let's say that for today I think I'll stay with
[00:02:18] them, although I can go back to my
[00:02:20] apartment.
[00:02:23] What has happened to your neighbors? Have you been able to talk to any of
[00:02:26] them, know what situation they are in, let's say, at the moment
[00:02:30] you ran out, but I mean, after it happened, have you been able to see
[00:02:33] some acquaintances and so on, see how they lived it, yes,
[00:02:37] of course, eh, thank God nothing major happened to my neighbors,
[00:02:41] but however in my city there is a lot
[00:02:45] under these conditions as president of of damage, they have already enabled
[00:02:47] the assembly and of the president three shelters for people who need
[00:02:49] which is located north of somewhere to stay today, who are not calm at home, eh, because there are several places that had structural
[00:02:53] failures, moreover, the cathedral of the city of Manizales, which is one of the
[00:02:56] main tourist places here, which is the largest cathedral in all
[00:03:00] of Colombia, also suffered damage, the city had, a part of it fell
[00:03:04] down, eh, and it was one of
[00:03:08] the country and logically the the biggest cultural losses, let's say, due to the earthquake.
[00:03:11] María Camila, thank you for being with
[00:03:14] us, for your testimony, we are glad that you are well,
[00:03:18] it was María Camila Alevara from Manizales, she is a content
[00:03:21] the data, ready for whatever creator, she was on a fifth floor, she survived and is here with us
[00:03:25] to tell about it, thank you for being with us, a short break, we continue with more in
[00:03:28] conclusions, please, see you later.
[00:04:53] sleep across the street at the
[00:06:43] and it's good that you mention it again, as you said at the beginning of the program, saying, well,
[00:06:46] assuming that this
[00:06:49] transition happens, because there are a series of questions that you have
[00:06:52] explained very well, so that, at the outset, to say, well,
[00:06:56] maybe this is not as immediate as
[00:06:59] we think. Second, the point of transparency, of maintaining
[00:07:03] transparency, which put us in motion,
[00:07:07] which has been tremendously a positive
[00:07:09] asset and a great asset for the institution. And
[00:07:13] then, fundamentally, the structure of
[00:07:16] a strong Fed
[00:07:20] with that complexity it currently has,
[00:07:23] regionally, is a strength, it's a
[00:07:26] fortress,
[00:07:35] in the midst of the destruction left by the earthquake in Cali, scenes that
[00:07:39] restore hope also appear, at this point on 5th Street.
[00:07:42] 44, one of the sectors where emergency work is concentrated,
[00:07:46] the fire department teams work among the rubble and manage to rescue
[00:07:50] a person alive amidst the joy of the people. The
[00:07:53] images show the rescuers' operation as they carefully remove
[00:07:57] the remains of the structure and search for possible
[00:08:00] survivors.
[00:08:10] To understand the world you need to
[00:08:13] seek the truth, to return to an era where we had to be
[00:08:16] much more human, that's why we follow the facts,
[00:08:20] wherever they lead us, no matter how far we have to
[00:08:23] go from the internal story. there are new
[00:08:26] statements from President Donald
[00:10:16] Just three days after being sworn in as president of Colombia, Abelardo del
[00:10:19] Espriella faces an emergency of enormous dimensions due to an earthquake of
[00:10:23] magnitude 7.4 that shook the country. The president decreed a
[00:10:26] national state of disaster that will allow him to mobilize resources to deal with
[00:10:30] the situation. In the most recent report, 132 deaths and
[00:10:33] 570 injured are accounted for. Dela
[00:10:37] Espriella called for unity in the midst of the tragedy and offered his help to the victims of the
[00:10:41] earthquake.
[00:10:43] Today, all Colombians, without ideological or
[00:10:47] political distinctions, must unite for a single
[00:10:50] cause, which are the victims of this natural
[00:10:53] disaster. The national government will deal with this tragedy as
[00:10:56] appropriate and we will help all Colombians, with
[00:11:00] God's help, the commitment of all government
[00:11:04] officials, the commitment of society as
[00:11:07] a whole and of our friends from governments
[00:11:11] and international organizations, we will
[00:11:15] help our compatriots who have been
[00:11:18] affected by this tragedy, this is the
[00:11:21] strongest earthquake felt in Colombia in the last decade, but... The
[00:11:25] area already has a history of high intensity movements, on November 23,
[00:11:28] 1979, an earthquake of magnitude 7.2
[00:11:32] struck this same region. Although the destruction
[00:11:36] did not reach other countries, the director of the Colombian Geological Service
[00:11:39] Julio Fierro Morales says that the earthquake was felt in Venezuela,
[00:11:42] Ecuador and Panama.
[00:11:46] It is the strongest earthquake that has been felt in the last decade in the
[00:11:49] country and for that area there are precedents of earthquakes,
[00:11:52] particularly on November 23
[00:11:55] in 1979, an earthquake of magnitude 7.2, we have
[00:11:59] two aftershocks, one of 2.8 and another of
[00:12:02] 4.8 that was felt recently, eh, it was
[00:12:05] felt in other countries, there are reports of it being felt in
[00:12:09] Venezuela, in Ecuador, in Panama and well it was felt throughout
[00:12:13] Colombia.
[00:12:16] Official estimates calculate that about 2 million people could
[00:12:20] feel the earthquake. In Bogotá, several collection centers were set up
[00:12:23] and at least 26 buildings totally collapsed in Cali, while
[00:12:27] testimonies continue to arrive from people who experienced the
[00:12:30] terrifying moment. The neighbor, we went out
[00:12:34] to have a meeting
[00:12:37] with our complex on this field. My wife
[00:12:40] suffers from panic, so she says
[00:12:44] she felt an aftershock when we were upstairs. The news I
[00:12:47] was watching on television when I was there, in the
[00:12:51] apartment, I saw something about Venezuela and at that moment
[00:12:54] I said, oh God, something is going to happen in Venezuela, my
[00:12:57] skin tingles because it was
[00:13:00] an earthquake, because this tremor was hard.
[00:13:04] duro,
[00:13:07] Several presidents and international leaders sent their
[00:13:09] condolences to the Colombian people after the earthquake that left more
[00:13:13] than 100 dead in the country. The US Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, published on
[00:13:17] his social networks that they are monitoring the situation to
[00:13:20] support Colombian citizens and their president. The president
[00:13:24] of El Salvador, Najib Bukele, also expressed his solidarity with
[00:13:27] Colombia and assured that his government is ready to provide immediate
[00:13:31] support. Bukele said that El Salvador can send rescue teams,
[00:13:34] doctors, paramedics and supplies. The president also sent his
[00:13:38] condolences to the families of the victims and asked for strength for the Colombian
[00:13:41] people. From Mexico, President Claudia Sheinbaum
[00:13:45] joined the voices of solidarity and also offered Colombia her
[00:13:49] support.
[00:13:51] We are very attentive both with our embassy there and
[00:13:55] with the ambassador here and of
[00:13:58] course all the support that the
[00:14:02] people of Colombia need and we will be there.
[00:14:43] I am Mexican British, I have been practicing
[00:14:47] journalism for 20 years in Mexico City, in the United
[00:14:51] States and now in Miami for CNN. CNN.
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[00:17:38] now with Fernando Quintero, who was at his home in Cali,
[00:17:41] when this earthquake occurred and we want to know how he
[00:17:45] experienced it and also how he is doing afterwards, because his house suffered
[00:17:49] significant damage, Fernando, thank you for being with us, good evening, eh,
[00:17:53] first I want to ask you about the situation you were in this morning when everything
[00:17:57] started to shake.
[00:18:00] Hello, how are you, good evening, can you hear me well there? We can hear you, yes, yes,
[00:18:04] Fernando, thank you for being with us. Well, I am
[00:18:07] precisely here in front of the apartment, I am standing in the place
[00:18:10] where I was located, as soon as I left the
[00:18:13] apartment, I live on a second floor, I'm going to try to
[00:18:17] show you the images of that second floor where I lived
[00:18:20] and these were, let's say, the most considerable damages to this building
[00:18:26] the city of Cali.
[00:18:29] Well, quickly, it was 7:30 in the morning, I was ready to go to the
[00:18:32] office, eh, I work in the communications team of the Cali
[00:18:36] mayor's office. My wife was going to take me and when
[00:18:40] she started shouting "tremor, tremor", the three of us ran
[00:18:42] out, eh, we woke up my daughter who was sleeping,
[00:18:46] eh, we grabbed our pet, a French
[00:18:49] bulldog, and ran down the
[00:18:51] stairs, but the most surprising thing is that as we were
[00:18:55] going down the stairs
[00:18:57] we saw how the walls were falling apart, how cracks
[00:19:01] appeared in the walls, how the walls broke
[00:19:05] and when we came out here where I am standing, I kept looking at the
[00:19:08] building and I saw how it was moving and I saw how the
[00:19:12] apartment was the
[00:19:16] structure. This building has already been
[00:19:18] evacuated, eh, all the people who lived here, a nine-story
[00:19:21] building, eh, left to seek refuge in other places,
[00:19:25] we are still here because well, a neighbor gave us
[00:19:29] shelter, a neighbor across the street from where we lived
[00:19:32] and we are waiting to see what happens tomorrow.
[00:19:35] Eh, well, you can
[00:19:38] imagine, no emergency team arrived here because
[00:19:42] well, there are much more serious damages, I
[00:19:45] was saying earlier and I was talking about it with my wife and friends,
[00:19:49] we really got off lightly, but what we experienced was like a movie, it was a very
[00:19:53] big scare, plus here in Cali we had experienced an
[00:19:56] earthquake and the material damages
[00:20:00] because the house that you are seeing there where the apartment
[00:20:05] recover some clothes, shoes, equipment that I
[00:20:09] work with, there are other things that were lost, but the most
[00:20:12] important thing is that we were able to get out without a scratch, we are alive
[00:20:16] and regretting what is happening in my city, I understand that the situation is quite
[00:20:20] complicated here in Cali, I have not been able to see all the news because I am here
[00:20:23] pending the apartment, I don't know what will happen
[00:20:27] here, well we are going to
[00:20:30] house of a supportive neighbor who gave us the possibility of
[00:20:34] giving us shelter, but the truth is that what
[00:20:37] we saw today, we had never experienced it here in Cali.
[00:20:41] Fernando, how do you go on from here and I also ask you about the
[00:20:45] security conditions. In Cali, a curfew has been ordered
[00:20:48] in case there is any kind of disturbance
[00:20:52] or looting, are you afraid that you might suffer
[00:20:56] some kind of robbery, looting or something similar after
[00:20:59] what you have been through? Is it a risk that could
[00:21:03] happen, do you assume it, how do you live this first
[00:21:06] night? Yes, yes, it's
[00:21:09] 15 to 9, the curfew in Cali started at 8, decreed
[00:21:13] by Mayor Alejandro Eder, I
[00:21:17] won't sleep tonight, I still have valuables in the apartment,
[00:21:21] since this is a second floor that is very close to the street and since
[00:21:25] there is no security and since everyone left the
[00:21:28] furniture, the apartment, eh,
[00:21:31] well, there is no one who there is a gentleman in the back
[00:21:35] hired by the security company who will stay, but I offered
[00:21:39] to also stay with my wife here doing
[00:21:42] rounds until tomorrow very early to see what else we can get out of the
[00:21:45] apartment, eh evidently there is
[00:21:48] fear because there is an alarm of looting, I hope nothing happens, so far
[00:21:52] I can tell you guys that at least where I lived, where I live
[00:21:56] in the north of Cali, eh, everything is very calm, you don't see many
[00:21:59] people, everything is in silence, there is a tense
[00:22:02] calm, eh, and I know there are other places much more
[00:22:06] affected and evidently now that I had time to
[00:22:10] to look at the videos, eh, I understood the
[00:22:13] magnitude of this catastrophe that we had never experienced here in
[00:22:16] Santiago de Cali, believe me the scare was very big. But
[00:22:20] fortunately, we, or at least I, my family and the neighbors of this sector
[00:22:24] were able to get out alive.
[00:22:26] Fernando, I really believe that it was a terrible scare. Now, taking
[00:22:30] into account what you are telling us, how does your
[00:22:33] life and your family's life continue from here,
[00:22:37] eh, where are you going to go, beyond getting some valuables out of the apartment,
[00:22:41] after that, what? Look,
[00:22:44] first I thank
[00:22:48] God, my family and I are very grateful to God because
[00:22:51] I thought today was our last day, at the moment we were going down the
[00:22:55] stairs I thought that our lives were ending, I thought the building was
[00:22:59] going to collapse and that I was going to lose everything. Fortunately
[00:23:02] the earthquake was not longer because if it had been longer,
[00:23:06] we would have lost absolutely everything. For now we are going to stay with a
[00:23:09] neighbor, my mother who lives further south already offered
[00:23:13] us the possibility of staying at her
[00:23:17] house, we are going to... a
[00:23:20] motorcycle is passing by here and you always have to be alert
[00:23:24] because we are already under curfew but a motorcycle passes by here so
[00:23:26] there's always a rogue, so I'm going to move from where
[00:23:30] I was, no,
[00:23:33] eh, today we are staying here with a supportive neighbor whom we didn't know but
[00:23:37] who offered us his house. Here I am with my wife, with an uncle,
[00:23:41] with my daughter. Tomorrow I will surely go to my mother's house. Eh, I work at the Cali mayor's office in the
[00:23:45] communications team. Eh, they told me that nothing had happened.
[00:23:49] Well, you can imagine the rest of my colleagues are working today in
[00:23:52] the midst of the catastrophe, informing the citizens and
[00:23:58] world what happened in Cali, so tomorrow
[00:24:00] I will dedicate myself to removing what I can
[00:24:04] save from the apartment, I'm going to
[00:24:07] my mother's house, even if it's in a room, the three of us.
[00:24:11] I know there are people who are worse off than us, literally we are homeless, but there are people who
[00:24:14] are worse off and well, start a new life, look for a new apartment, the
[00:24:18] apartment is not mine, I paid
[00:24:20] rent and well, life goes on, I repeat,
[00:24:24] we are alive, I know there are people from Cali in a worse situation
[00:24:28] than ours at this hour and I hope that there
[00:24:32] are not as many dead as I have heard throughout the
[00:24:35] day. I hope so, Fernando, thank you for being
[00:24:38] with us, that was Fernando Quintero from Cali after experiencing the strongest
[00:24:42] earthquake in Colombia in the last decade, thank you for being with us, for giving us
[00:24:46] your testimony and all the best, and while
[00:24:49] Colombia. the consequences of this earthquake, the comparison with
[00:24:53] the devastating earthquakes that struck Venezuela just over a
[00:24:56] month ago begins, although both occurred on the South American plate, experts explain that
[00:25:00] the geological context is very different: the earthquake in Colombia occurred at more than
[00:25:03] 100 km deep while the movements in Venezuela were much
[00:25:07] shallower, differences that help explain why, although both
[00:25:11] events were of great magnitude, their effects are not necessarily
[00:25:14] comparable. I will talk about this with my next guest, Dr. Gustavo
[00:25:17] Ortiz, seismologist and director of the Observatory.
[00:25:22] National University of San Juan, Argentina, doctor, thank you for
[00:25:25] being with us, what are the particularities of this
[00:25:29] earthquake in Colombia that, although it occurred at a
[00:25:32] much greater depth than the one in Venezuela, we also see that it has
[00:25:36] caused great disaster?
[00:25:39] Well, good evening, thank you very much for the contact, eh, that's right,
[00:25:43] no, this is very striking, isn't it, comparing two events
[00:25:46] that, although the geological texts are not the same,
[00:25:50] eh, this has caused a lot of disaster from what has been
[00:25:53] seen, hasn't it, eh, from what is being seen in the videos,
[00:25:57] eh, although the magnitude is almost not
[00:26:00] comparable, a 7.4 in this case at 100 km
[00:26:04] deep, the energy released has been
[00:26:07] directly towards the surface, hasn't it, we are talking about an
[00:26:11] earthquake at more than 100 km where a large amount of
[00:26:15] energy is released eh from
[00:26:18] bottom to top, hasn't it, eh in this sector
[00:26:22] and in a quite wide sector, isn't it, when we see the
[00:26:25] earthquakes in Venezuela, they are located in a zone of a
[00:26:29] strip, haven't they, here we are seeing it in a large area, haven't we, a much
[00:26:33] larger area, isn't it, it would almost be like a funnel type effect,
[00:26:36] isn't it, eh, totally different now,
[00:26:38] uh, they have had
[00:26:42] events, uh, a few years ago, very similar, not even
[00:26:46] with depths, uh, also very similar, so these types
[00:26:49] of events are to be
[00:26:52] expected. Many of them
[00:26:56] are also recognized as seismic cities, no, everything
[00:26:59] that is the west of South
[00:27:02] America, not just speaking of Colombia, no, but also
[00:27:06] one moves from Quito to the south of Argentina,
[00:27:10] uh, following the entire root of the Andean
[00:27:14] orogen, uh, it is to be expected that events of these magnitudes will also
[00:27:17] occur, no, and now what we can expect are aftershocks,
[00:27:21] right, yes, aftershocks will
[00:27:24] occur, uh, however, these aftershocks,
[00:27:30] again, comparing with the earthquake in Venezuela.
[00:27:33] These aftershocks that are at this great depth, most likely many
[00:27:37] of them will go unnoticed,
[00:27:40] however, when one goes to the context of Venezuela, aftershocks are still occurring
[00:27:43] today, uh, Venezuelans are feeling them and are
[00:27:47] suffering from them because, well, these are more
[00:27:50] superficial aftershocks that are felt with smaller magnitudes but
[00:27:54] are still felt. In this case, the aftershocks here in Colombia will
[00:27:57] decrease, they will
[00:28:00] almost disappear, let's say, from...
[00:28:03] from the population, they will not be perceived, but well, a state of alert
[00:28:06] is always maintained because earthquakes are also unpredictable,
[00:28:10] no, these earthquakes are unpredictable and it is not known if structures
[00:28:14] with a greater magnitude can be reactivated, no, so that's
[00:28:17] why the region always remains in a state of alert
[00:28:21] in the coming days and weeks.
[00:28:25] Perfect, Doctor, thank you for being with us. It was Dr. Gustavo Ortiz,
[00:28:28] seismologist and director of the Coniset Seismological Observatory, National University of San
[00:28:32] Juan, from Argentina, who has accompanied us and has explained a little about what has happened and what
[00:28:36] can happen. Thank you for being with us. We will take a
[00:28:39] break and then continue with more
[00:28:40] conclusions.
[00:28:43] What is your opinion about having been elected
[00:28:49] of the Supreme Court of Justice of the Constitutional Chamber? For the moment, I am
[00:28:53] not going to make any declarations because there is this resolution of the
[00:28:56] state that would be better to avoid. Now, are you
[00:29:00] going to appear on Monday to
[00:29:02] take office? Yes, in fact, we are going to the
[00:29:06] court to take office.