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[00:00:00] always talks about the
[00:00:02] inquiring, investigating the why of importance of having a family plan, of having,
[00:00:05] let's say, for example, right now when, uh, there's
[00:00:08] no electricity in many areas of the city, when there's no
[00:00:10] access to the internet, well, let's say that one reconfigures
[00:00:14] those plans as such, but I feel that
[00:00:18] it will always be different, that earthquake, unlike the one I experienced in
[00:00:21] '99, was even much harder, it was much
[00:00:25] longer, and I feel that regardless of whether one is
[00:00:28] prepared. pedagogically to know what
[00:00:31] to do in this type of circumstances, it will never be
[00:00:34] enough because what you experience at that moment, that is, the
[00:00:38] movements, you are seeing them on the screen right now, they are
[00:00:42] moments of panic where effectively, uh,
[00:00:45] many of the things that one has learned are not
[00:00:48] you, made a request in applied,
[00:00:51] world what is happening, I am at totally, I totally agree, one is never prepared for this, but
[00:00:54] well, you have to try and prepare for these
[00:00:57] emergencies, thank you, uh. Juan Milton
[00:01:00] Guintero, thank you for your presence and your
[00:01:03] time, uh, we will surely see
[00:01:07] and hear each other in the coming days, thank you for being here, that was John
[00:01:10] Milton Quintero from Pereira,
[00:01:14] Colombia, one of the most affected cities, well, and the earthquake, the
[00:01:18] earthquake was the strongest with an epicenter in the country since
[00:01:21] at least 1990, according to the United States Geological
[00:01:25] Survey, one of the most affected areas by the earthquake in
[00:01:28] Colombia is, as I was saying.
[00:01:38] the data, ready for whatever
[00:02:00] within what was an apartment building and you can see it's
[00:02:03] covered now this entire street, they've brought in a crane, they've had to bring in a
[00:02:07] fuel truck directly to the crane just to keep the operations
[00:02:10] going, and i was speaking to a couple here who have
[00:02:14] friends that live in this apartment building and they say that they were
[00:02:18] this moment on to hearing yelling throughout the night, and it's for that
[00:02:21] reason that you have several dozen, not
[00:02:24] only firefighters and first responders, but then just
[00:02:27] locals who have jumped into tr try to help in some fashion, mean most
[00:02:31] don't even have the proper gear to do so, but you can see they're using buckets and they're
[00:02:35] trying to clear as much rubble as possible and they're hoping to
[00:02:39] get to the areas that they believe that those yells are coming
[00:02:42] and timely information on from and and and folks are are standing on the sidelines, let me show you just
[00:02:46] trying to stay out of the way as much as possible, but
[00:02:48] also they're taking this in
[00:02:51] because these are folks that they know, this is their
[00:02:54] community, some of them are are just standing almost in a days with
[00:02:58] tears in their eyes as their... watching this play out and it's interesting
[00:03:01] as as we got to the first location in this city, mind you, we
[00:03:05] had driven for eight hours from Bogat because flights weren't landing anywhere near here
[00:03:09] last night, we went to one location and we thought that
[00:03:13] was the most devastating part of the city, and we've been told at each
[00:03:17] location, no, you need to go to another, you need to check out this location, go see
[00:03:20] this, and that's what brought us here to plaza libertad, where
[00:03:24] you can see there is just a continued effort right now to
[00:03:28] try to find whoever. may still be alive, mean we're just after
[00:03:31] 24 hours from when this earthquake struck and
[00:03:35] so folks are still incredibly hopeful and yet feeling that
[00:03:39] urgency to try to get to whoever may still
[00:03:43] reference point to find out what be alive in in this collapse structure
[00:03:45] here, but again, mean you you just go block after block
[00:03:49] within this city and you will see lot of the
[00:03:52] streets are just filled with the rubble that have come down from
[00:03:56] the buildings around uh i was also noticing that they're
[00:04:00] uh had on on the mountain roads that we were coming in on and and these were very windy,
[00:04:04] dark, difficult roads to traverse. you had lot
[00:04:08] of uh basically personnel coming in from the capital from
[00:04:11] bogota where we were coming in from and they were going at
[00:04:15] really high speeds just trying to get with all the equipment and
[00:04:18] resources they had to this location to assist in this effort, because
[00:04:22] you can see it's exhausting and at this point,
[00:04:25] mean the numbers suggest
[00:04:27] 55 or so who have done
[00:04:50] because as you did in the
[00:05:00] present on the ground providing
[00:05:03] assistance to the victims, remember
[00:05:06] cnne.com slash impacta,
[00:05:10] we have to take a break here in conclusions. But upon returning,
[00:05:13] we will have the Attorney General of Honduras, Dagoberto
[00:05:17] Aspra, we will talk about the
[00:05:20] judicial process faced by former president Juan Orlando
[00:05:23] Hernández, so don't go away, we'll be back after the
[00:05:26] break.
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[00:12:55] Rey CNN, well and Honduras Honduras has Juan Orlando
[00:12:58] Hernández back in his country, the former president returned last
[00:13:02] July 26 after having been extradited to the United States
[00:13:06] in 2022 and sentenced in June
[00:13:09] 2024 to 45 years in prison for crimes
[00:13:13] related to drug trafficking. His return was
[00:13:17] possible after President Donald Trump granted him
[00:13:20] a pardon in December 2025 for
[00:13:23] considering that he had received, and I quote, very
[00:13:27] harsh and unjust treatment in the Joe Biden administration,
[00:13:31] but Hernández did not return to close a chapter, he returned to
[00:13:34] open another, now he faces in
[00:13:37] Honduras an accusation for alleged money laundering and fraud, according to the
[00:13:41] prosecution, more than 10 million dollars were
[00:13:44] diverted to two non-profit organizations between
[00:13:48] 2010 and 2013 when Hernández presided over the
[00:13:51] Congress and adds that these resources would have been used
[00:13:55] to finance his 2013 presidential
[00:13:58] campaign, something he denies, and there is
[00:14:02] another key clarification, Juan
[00:14:05] Orlando Hernández has not yet
[00:14:08] gone to trial, last August 3, an
[00:14:11] organized crime court imposed precautionary
[00:14:14] measures, including the prohibition of leaving the country
[00:14:17] and rejected the
[00:14:20] prosecution's request for him to be provisionally
[00:14:23] detained for an alleged risk of
[00:14:27] flight, the next step will be August 12,
[00:14:30] that is, this Wednesday, where the
[00:14:34] initial hearing will be held in which the
[00:14:37] judge must determine if there is sufficient
[00:14:40] merit for the criminal process to
[00:14:44] proceed, and while the prosecution defines its
[00:14:47] investigation, Hernández
[00:14:49] responds with a political accusation, saying that an attempt
[00:14:53] is being made to influence his process and
[00:14:57] attack judicial independence, the former president speaks of
[00:15:00] an alleged interference by the
[00:15:03] radical left,
[00:15:05] let's listen about the interference of groups
[00:15:09] with dark agendas and political
[00:15:13] radical left, who through the manipulation of the
[00:15:16] truth seek to pressure and attack
[00:15:20] judicial independence, weakening the
[00:15:23] constitutional guarantees that
[00:15:26] assist every
[00:15:28] citizen.
[00:15:32] Hernández also denied the accusations from the prosecutor's office
[00:15:35] that its representatives
[00:15:37] received threats during
[00:15:41] his hearing last Monday,
[00:15:43] let's listen: the non-existence of
[00:15:47] threats: we absolutely and
[00:15:50] categorically deny that during the course of the hearing any
[00:15:54] type of threat, intimidation, or
[00:15:57] coercion
[00:16:01] against the Attorney General or any other
[00:16:04] official present at that hearing was uttered.
[00:16:09] Well, and today the Attorney General of
[00:16:12] Honduras is our next
[00:16:14] guest,
[00:16:21] and I welcome Dagoberto Aspra
[00:16:25] Iglesias, he is the Attorney General of Honduras, Attorney General, thank you for being with us
[00:16:28] in this space, we heard just a few minutes ago the former
[00:16:32] president speak and say that or speak
[00:16:35] of an alleged interference. by the radical
[00:16:38] left to manipulate this process,
[00:16:42] are there elements to support that
[00:16:45] complaint or perhaps it is part of the defense strategy, I don't know,
[00:16:59] Mr. Juan Orlando Hernández uses when he cannot
[00:17:02] control people and institutions, he accuses us of
[00:17:05] being activists, he accuses us of being part of the radical left, what
[00:17:09] he tries to ignore is that we are part of this government, of the
[00:17:13] national party, the party to which he belongs, which he
[00:17:16] used to be president of the republic, to be president of the
[00:17:19] congress, however, we have the clear responsibility to
[00:17:22] face these processes with greater responsibility, because
[00:17:26] our obligation is to defend the state of Honduras, defend its heritage, the
[00:17:30] Attorney General's Office is the representative of the victim in this case, the
[00:17:33] state, uh, as you pointed out in the
[00:17:36] preliminary part of this interview, more than 10 million
[00:17:40] dollars were looted, current value, because these events happened more
[00:17:44] or less between 2010 and 2013, uh,
[00:17:46] where a network of foundations, uh, of
[00:17:50] civil organizations of a civil nature was used to extract
[00:17:53] resources, drain them from a secretariat that is
[00:17:56] oriented towards agriculture and livestock, uh,
[00:17:59] programs were disguised to favor young people and mothers
[00:18:03] and, uh, children, uh, so that some
[00:18:06] resource or some teaching from the state could reach them. That
[00:18:09] money, directly the totality of it, was drained to political
[00:18:13] campaigns, uh, it has been determined through financial
[00:18:16] traceability expertise that the money came from those
[00:18:20] from that budget of the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock
[00:18:23] and was uh uh
[00:18:26] transmitted through that network of foundations and came
[00:18:29] to pay uh accounts that were from the political
[00:18:33] campaign of movements controlled by Juan Orlando Hernández that are identified as
[00:18:37] movements. these united blues, friends of Juan Orlando, others, another
[00:18:40] card they also used to be able to
[00:18:44] call people to be part of their ranks, uh, this
[00:18:48] investigation revealed that the patrimonial damage to the state exceeds 10 million
[00:18:51] dollars, we as members of the national party who are
[00:18:55] in front of different institutions, uh, there are many
[00:18:58] people that we have no
[00:19:01] commitment to Juan Orlando Hernández, he believes that because he was president of
[00:19:05] Honduras for two consecutive terms. he was president of the
[00:19:08] National Congress, having controlled different state
[00:19:11] entities of Honduras for more than 20 years, uh, most of
[00:19:15] us have to fear him or that we owe him something, we owe
[00:19:19] absolutely nothing to Juan Orlando Hernández, we are going to assume this responsibility that
[00:19:23] we have at the head of your institution, tomorrow I will be personally
[00:19:26] at the initial hearing where we will provide evidence to be able
[00:19:30] to link this gentleman to the process and
[00:19:34] that the Attorney General's Office can exercise civil action for compensation
[00:19:37] at the appropriate time. Recover assets to compensate for the patrimonial damage that has been done to the state of
[00:19:41] Honduras.
[00:19:44] Attorney General, have you received political pressure to act
[00:19:48] against the former president, that's on one hand, what you are
[00:19:51] saying, you are supporting it, but others say that there may be
[00:19:54] interests, political interests and also the
[00:19:58] former president speaks of
[00:20:01] alleged threats, tell us what happened, pardon me for asking
[00:20:04] three in one, but well, you'll tell me. The
[00:20:07] threats, we reported the threats from the Attorney General's Office, the
[00:20:11] three agents from the Attorney General's Office that I assigned for that hearing informed me
[00:20:15] that the hostile attitude of Mr. Juan Orlando
[00:20:18] Hernández materialized in situations that we have
[00:20:22] investigated to have an objective and real criterion of what happened,
[00:20:27] presentations prior to my interview, he came out
[00:20:31] denying what I had said publicly that my
[00:20:33] prosecuting agents who had been at the hearing had
[00:20:37] suffered some type of intimidation and threat, I have the conclusions of an independent
[00:20:41] report that was carried out by a forensic expert
[00:20:44] and he concludes that there was a high intensity of confrontation
[00:20:48] and intimidation. When individualizing the official
[00:20:52] directly with the expression "I want to see you in the eyes", that is, Mr.
[00:20:56] Juan Orlando Hernández addresses the agent from the Attorney General's
[00:20:59] Office who is the lead voice of our
[00:21:01] representation, telling him, he asked the judge for the floor,
[00:21:05] the judge granted it, an act that we have not seen in other
[00:21:09] hearings, the accused is granted the floor without submitting
[00:21:12] to the formal declaration that he must
[00:21:15] make before the judge, that we cannot ask him questions that do not refer to the facts
[00:21:19] but that he does it in a discursive
[00:21:22] way, he says that he wants to teach the Attorney General's Office agent
[00:21:25] something and begins to say, begins to narrate different
[00:21:29] situations where he talks about activists, he talks about how different
[00:21:33] documents were made, because the Attorney General's Office, I must tell
[00:21:38] the hearing requesting that a precautionary measure of judicial
[00:21:42] detention be decreed in a
[00:21:46] detention in a space that we could
[00:21:50] determine that he could have some security, before being extradited, he
[00:21:53] was in the special forces police battalion, he
[00:21:57] was there for approximately two months and was guarded
[00:22:00] there, we are requesting that he be held for the term
[00:22:03] prior to this hearing because we
[00:22:06] alleged and supported within an evidence
[00:22:10] that was presented that there is a profile of who Juan Orlando Hernández is, that there was a risk of
[00:22:14] repetition, a criminal structure that he was suspected of
[00:22:17] belonging to, and because of that, there was a risk of contamination of sources of
[00:22:21] evidence, I think that strength
[00:22:24] of the request made by the Attorney General's Office was what really
[00:22:28] bothered him because that is
[00:22:31] reflected in the video because there is video and audio of that hearing, we presented
[00:22:35] an evidence that was prepared by the
[00:22:38] anti-corruption criminal policy observatory, where it concludes
[00:22:42] that Mr. Juan Orlando Hernández, as he has reached the different positions,
[00:22:45] what he has done, what has been his way of behaving towards
[00:22:49] the state and with the power that he has had, the utilization of
[00:22:53] resources under discretion, which is why
[00:22:56] we consider that he is indeed part of a criminal structure, that was
[00:22:59] raised at the hearing, I think that bothered him and that is why
[00:23:03] he confronted the members of the Attorney General's Office,
[00:23:06] that report, its conclusions are that
[00:23:10] he uses sustained eye contact towards the
[00:23:13] representatives of the Attorney General's Office, when he says "I want to see you in the eyes", he
[00:23:17] seeks to break the emotional counterbalance of the accuser, in behavioral
[00:23:20] criminology this is a non-verbal marker of dominance and coercive
[00:23:24] enforcement, the turning of the shoulders and torso breaking the perpendicularity towards the
[00:23:28] judge's bench, reorienting the body's mass frontally and defiantly
[00:23:31] towards the Attorney General's table, uh, demonstrates that there is
[00:23:35] a non-verbal intimidation accompanied by phrases, uh,
[00:23:38] made up, disguised, because he usually speaks in a soft
[00:23:42] tone, in a tone as if he were a grandfather, as if he were a family man,
[00:23:46] he wants to teach him something like an older person, but we know that there is a threat.
[00:23:54] Attorney General, do you guarantee
[00:23:57] then that this process will be based on evidence and not
[00:27:37] and we continue talking with Dr. Dagoberto Aspra
[00:27:40] Iglesias the Attorney General of Honduras,
[00:27:44] Attorney, let's see, clarify something for us,
[00:27:47] that on the one hand, you believe that an ordinary court
[00:27:51] has the conditions, the capacity to
[00:27:54] face a process of such magnitude, that on the one
[00:27:57] hand, what interests could be behind
[00:28:00] discrediting the Prosecutor's Office and on the other
[00:28:04] hand, a Prosecutor's Office that requested preventive
[00:28:07] detention, of course
[00:28:11] risk of flight, something that the court rejected, now I would also
[00:28:15] ask you why you believe or what elements you have that there is such
[00:28:28] who is in charge of the case has the capacity to face the magnitude of
[00:28:32] this case, a high-profile case, it's a case that generates high
[00:28:36] expectation and puts the justice system to the test, he is a new judge,
[00:28:40] he doesn't have much experience, he is a judge who is, although he is in these courts
[00:28:43] of organized crime, previously we can say that this
[00:28:47] file was handled by a magistrate of the Supreme Court of Justice
[00:28:50] because Mr. Hernández Alvarado at the time was a deputy
[00:28:54] of the Central American Parliament and enjoyed the prerogative of a
[00:28:57] procedure to prosecute high-ranking officials, as I
[00:29:01] told you, as the Attorney General we proposed that
[00:29:05] judicial detention be ordered because we believed that it was the appropriate measure
[00:29:09] to avoid contamination of evidence, tomorrow
[00:29:12] we will provide evidence, there are experts, there are witnesses who
[00:29:16] in a certain way feel intimidated by the way this gentleman
[00:29:19] moves around the city accompanied by a large number of
[00:29:23] bodyguards that unfortunately the state has to provide for him and
[00:29:26] we would hope that the most appropriate measure for the state of
[00:29:30] Honduras and for him is that he be in a military unit. because the security
[00:29:33] apparatus that he maintains is excessive for
[00:29:37] any state official, he
[00:29:39] really argues that he has a risk of flight, I think risk of flight and
[00:29:43] risk that there is a risk profile, he says he claims
[00:29:46] that they are going to kill him, that he is not safe and that we are insensitive
[00:29:50] to his life and that it doesn't matter to us, however we
[00:29:54] have valued that that is the appropriate precautionary measure for him to
[00:29:57] be able to await the outcome of this
[00:29:59] trial.