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[00:14:25] that is very prominent is the
[00:14:28] slavery, people
[00:14:29] have been enslaved, people have been working for free, and also resistance, that's
[00:14:33] very important, buse everywhere there was en people
[00:14:37] enslave, there was resistance,
[00:14:41] and like mention mato
[00:14:43] mentioned, the resistance was all over, it's just
[00:14:47] that it wasn't written tomote, it was stated
[00:14:51] outside the archives, it stated outside of... the
[00:14:55] scope the the the the
[00:14:58] researchers, this book for instance with
[00:15:02] stasia, what i did is to give the people a
[00:15:05] voice, because it's going about the people, it's not going about
[00:15:09] the who were the heroes, it's not about the
[00:15:13] the the the Europeans who enslaved the people, but the people who were
[00:15:17] enslaved without having a voice, and in this book I'm
[00:15:21] getting them a voice, that's nice, tell a little bit about the...
[00:15:25] research a little bit more about what we can find that's the main
[00:15:29] topic in this book, well the research in
[00:15:32] itself it took about two weeks to do the
[00:15:36] research. so i went to statia for two weeks
[00:15:40] and did 20 interviews, so
[00:15:43] like two, sometimes three per day, and speaking
[00:15:47] to the people about what they knew about their own
[00:15:50] history, what they knew about when
[00:15:54] stasia was the golden rock where you had
[00:15:57] 33,00 people living in stasia,
[00:16:01] today we have 3,100, so like
[00:16:04] 10% of what it was in.
[00:16:08] in the uh in the 17, 18th century,
[00:16:11] and also was very important to them is the fact that
[00:16:15] 69 persons were dig who
[00:16:19] died were digged up for research,
[00:16:23] definitely, why? um, well, that's that's that's
[00:16:27] a good question, because it's still a controversy institution, there is
[00:16:30] report, but lot of people haven't seen that report,
[00:16:34] and whether that report is going about why, i don't think so, i think more about when
[00:16:38] are they going to be reburied? well oh
[00:16:42] because the the African battleground association
[00:16:46] alliance anastasia they have now come
[00:16:50] to date and everyone hopes that the people
[00:16:53] will be reburied on the 13th of November this
[00:16:57] year yeah but then they have been there for like six
[00:17:00] years in the heritage
[00:17:04] house in arana stat in um
[00:17:07] in station and you know it's not
[00:17:11] like it doesn't build and prepared for people who
[00:17:15] who who have died to to preserve them, so
[00:17:19] people just there in in this um in this
[00:17:22] building, this is something
[00:17:25] big,
[00:17:26] it's not, it's not usual, it's not, it's very unusual, yeah, very
[00:17:30] unusual, and the thing is, the question
[00:17:34] is whose ancestors will do?
[00:17:38] Who are they? and how they can find it, because they
[00:17:41] can, but how it it will be a place or
[00:17:45] moment that they will do that research to find the
[00:17:49] accessories of those people? I
[00:17:52] think the technology, scientific technology, yeah, of course, it should be
[00:17:56] possible, but then it's a controversy, because it happened at the moment when
[00:18:00] stasia wasn't anymore
[00:18:03] uh uh, how do you say constitutional?
[00:18:07] state because we had um state
[00:18:10] secretary
[00:18:12] um um what's name the soul guy he came and he
[00:18:16] he placed the the counselors of stasia
[00:18:20] out the out the building out of
[00:18:24] um the context of governments so in that
[00:18:27] period when stasia was like a free for all that's
[00:18:31] when it happened that's when it happened where they got the
[00:18:35] permission from the researchers. and why
[00:18:39] samples were taken from these um um
[00:18:42] bodies to the Netherlands and also to the United States
[00:18:45] and those samples still have to be returned, one the
[00:18:49] reasons that the the reberial took so long had to do with the
[00:18:53] fact that the Baralgong Alliance
[00:18:56] was advised that to rebury them first you have to bring
[00:19:00] back the samples exactly that were
[00:19:03] taken yeah and up to this day the samples.
[00:19:37] That's why the fact that he's indicating in the
[00:19:41] subjects we teach in school, history, does it have to
[00:19:45] be let's say close to anthropology, when we talking
[00:19:49] about the geography, what can you do with the ground, but
[00:19:52] here they took out, excavate
[00:19:56] people from the barrial grounds, which is
[00:19:59] something in very very let's say
[00:20:02] disrespectful because we talking back to for
[00:20:06] ancestors.
[00:20:37] Barrel ground, that's next to the airport, when the airport was being
[00:20:41] built, the the people were digged
[00:20:45] up around that period, but that thing that
[00:20:49] that the... the barrel gong which also
[00:20:52] has Fort Amsterdam and Fort
[00:20:55] Rotterdam has been sold, it's now it
[00:20:59] become private property. Another example, very good example
[00:21:03] is the Congo Baral ground. Congo
[00:21:06] barag, there was a thing that it said most the people who came
[00:21:10] to um to Sastacius were from the
[00:21:14] Congo, whether that is true or not, we are not sure, but
[00:21:17] there was one man. in station called the Kongo
[00:21:21] man, he is, his parents were
[00:21:25] originally from Sirinam, he was businessman, he had shops,
[00:21:28] still he died, but when he died, the Congo man, he
[00:21:32] wanted to be buried at the Congo
[00:21:36] Baral ground, but it was not possible, because it was
[00:21:40] sold already to a private entity, in the
[00:21:44] book you will read all about the
[00:21:48] those instances with...