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[00:01:00] importance for Koreans, wow, this
[00:01:03] is a topographical map of my skin,
[00:01:07] do you think more emphasis is placed on appearance here in Korea than in other
[00:01:11] countries?
[00:01:13] Korea has very high standards, do you think the Korean
[00:01:17] standard of how a man should look has
[00:01:26] on CNN,
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[00:01:56] relations with the United States? Relations between the United States.
[00:02:21] it is also very similar to what
[00:02:54] transparency, of maintaining transparency, which
[00:02:57] well, it got us dancing. It has been
[00:03:00] tremendously a positive asset and a great
[00:03:04] asset for the institution, and then fundamentally the
[00:03:07] structure of a strong
[00:03:11] Fed with that complexity that it currently
[00:03:15] has regionally, it is a strength, it is a
[00:03:18] strength.
[00:03:28] President Donald Trump threatened again to attack Oman if
[00:03:31] he considers that this country's negotiations with Iran interfere with
[00:03:35] United States efforts in the strategic Strait of Hormuz. This is not
[00:03:39] the first time he has done it, despite being allies, in May Trump
[00:03:42] already threatened to attack them. The warning comes as a 60-day
[00:03:45] deadline to negotiate with Iran expires, without a clear agreement to
[00:03:49] end the war. Trump also confirmed that Washington maintains a
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[00:06:24] U.S. President Donald Trump ordered the reduction of joint
[00:06:28] military maneuvers with South Korea, arguing that
[00:06:31] North Korea has been harmless and respectful of his
[00:06:35] administration. And this is not a simple decision about military
[00:06:38] exercises. The matter could have deeper implications throughout
[00:06:42] Asia. The maneuvers that Trump reduced have a central
[00:06:45] objective: to prepare U.S. and South Korean
[00:06:48] forces to respond to a possible
[00:06:51] aggression from North Korea, a country that maintains a nuclear program and
[00:06:55] that is technically still at war with South Korea.
[00:06:59] And here appears a fundamental element to understand this decision, Trump's
[00:07:02] personal relationship with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
[00:07:06] Trump says he has always treated him with great respect, there is understanding
[00:07:10] between them and they have a good relationship.
[00:07:18] has always treated me with great respect and we have met on numerous occasions, in
[00:07:22] fact on two main occasions, we have spoken and spent time
[00:07:25] together, I understand him, he understands me, they are playing
[00:07:29] war games and I get along well with
[00:07:30] him.
[00:07:33] It seems that for Kim Jong Un, Trump's decision represents a significant advantage
[00:07:37] as North Korea has been demanding the end or reduction of
[00:07:40] these military exercises for years. Now he gets precisely that, without having
[00:07:44] announced a concession in return. But the United States
[00:07:47] also faces a real limitation, the war with Iran is consuming
[00:07:51] military resources, Washington even moved missile
[00:07:55] interceptors from the Korean peninsula to the Middle East,
[00:07:59] in part that's why the concern of the allies.
[00:08:02] The United States has about 30,000 military personnel in South
[00:08:05] Korea and more than 50,000 in Japan. The exercises
[00:08:09] serve to maintain their readiness. If Washington
[00:08:12] reduces that readiness to concentrate on other regions, Seoul
[00:08:16] may wonder how much it can depend on the United States. In
[00:08:19] fact, in South Korea the debate about developing its own
[00:08:23] nuclear capability is already growing. Trump
[00:08:26] already had an unprecedented relationship with Kim during his first
[00:08:29] term. They met, negotiated, but North Korea
[00:08:32] never abandoned its nuclear program. Now Trump
[00:08:35] seems to want to return to that formula and says that Kim responded to his
[00:08:39] recent approaches. The
[00:08:42] question, then, is not only whether there will be another meeting, it is what
[00:08:45] the United States gets in exchange for these concessions, because if Trump
[00:08:49] trusts that his personal relationship with Kim can make the region safer, his
[00:08:53] critics fear that he is weakening deterrence and above
[00:08:56] all the confidence of his own allies.
[00:09:00] So, what weighs more for Trump, the historical alliance with South
[00:09:04] Korea or his personal relationship with Kim Jong Un? We'll talk about it with my next
[00:09:08] guest.
[00:09:12] I welcome Evan Ellis, professor at the U.S. Army War College. Evan, thank you for
[00:09:16] being with us. I start
[00:09:20] by asking you, how do we have to understand this
[00:09:23] decision by Trump to suspend, to reduce these
[00:09:26] military exercises and that he talks about a good relationship
[00:09:30] with Kim Jong Un. Why does Trump do this and why does
[00:09:34] he do it now? Well, we don't have
[00:09:37] the real motivations, but according to what President
[00:09:41] Trump has said, it seems to be a combination of factors,
[00:09:45] it seems that on the one hand there was annoyance that the South Korean
[00:09:49] president, Jae-in Moon, has not done
[00:09:52] anything to help the United States in the
[00:09:55] Persian Gulf in this campaign against Iran, but that was only
[00:09:59] the latest intention that perhaps began with the new leadership
[00:10:03] of this South Korean leader, who is more center-left,
[00:10:06] so a little different from the previous
[00:10:10] leader. Also, the United States had demanded South
[00:10:13] Korea to do more for its own defense, so it seems that in
[00:10:17] a certain way there was a combination on the one hand of
[00:10:20] annoyance about this South
[00:10:23] Korean leader and...
[00:10:43] exercise could have more
[00:10:46] benefit than negative impact, although his critics
[00:10:50] obviously have their doubts if they will really
[00:10:53] save many costs because it is literally
[00:10:57] the day before the start of the exercise, everything is already
[00:11:00] done and it seems the damage of this
[00:11:03] unpredictability and perhaps the impact on
[00:11:06] allies like Japan and others like those in
[00:11:10] Europe who have had doubts about the United States' commitments
[00:11:14] to defend its allies, that only continues to increase
[00:11:17] those concerns for our
[00:11:19] allies.
[00:11:22] What is the risk with this situation, taking into
[00:11:26] account that the United States is in a war that does not end with Iran, where President
[00:11:29] Trump says he will not allow Iran to have nuclear
[00:11:32] weapons, however North Korea is developing nuclear
[00:11:36] weapons and with them in principle tension decreases, how is
[00:11:40] this understood and what is the risk of this move?
[00:11:43] Well, on the one hand, I believe that this
[00:11:46] lesson from North Korea is, in a certain way, once
[00:11:50] actors obtain nuclear weapons, it is very difficult to take the
[00:11:54] risks of getting rid of them, that is, that this
[00:11:58] North Korea thing was on its way since the 90s and we understand
[00:12:02] that now we have an opportunity perhaps to
[00:12:05] prevent Iran from reaching this same point because once
[00:12:08] Iran is a nuclear actor, it will not only have the possibility
[00:12:12] of impacting the Persian Gulf with its drones and
[00:12:16] missiles, but also threatening the entire region, so that is
[00:12:19] one lesson, but perhaps sometimes another lesson is
[00:12:22] trust, if a leader could really
[00:12:26] prevent a country from obtaining a nuclear weapon based on a good
[00:12:30] faith agreement, this was of course the reason why President
[00:12:33] Trump withdrew from this agreement
[00:12:37] before his administration with
[00:12:40] Iran, but on the other hand, now there
[00:12:43] are always doubts that the military actions of the United States in
[00:12:47] the Persian Gulf have not completely eliminated
[00:12:51] this Iranian nuclear program and its possibility of taking its
[00:12:54] material enriched and soon
[00:12:57] making a nuclear bomb.
[00:13:07] we'll continue talking with the professor of the US Army War College
[00:13:11] , Evan Ellis. We'll also talk about how South Korea is left with this
[00:13:14] decision by Donald Trump and how the relationship between South Korea
[00:13:18] and the United States is left. Short break and then we'll continue talking with Professor
[00:13:22] Evan Ellis.
[00:13:26] I am Mexican-British, I have been practicing
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[00:13:34] States and now in Miami for CNN. CNN
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[00:16:36] I'm Gaby Frías. in Mexico City, we are
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[00:16:44] We continue in conclusions with Evan Ellis, professor at the U.S. Army
[00:16:47] War College. Professor, we were
[00:16:51] talking before the break about what situation
[00:16:54] South Korea is in with this decision by the United States, does South
[00:16:58] Korea have to worry about being unprotected,
[00:17:01] does it have the capacity to defend itself on its own
[00:17:05] account? Well.
[00:17:26] So this part is positive,
[00:17:28] but in this announcement that President Trump has made,
[00:17:32] he has put a difficult
[00:17:36] position because it indicates that they will cancel certain
[00:17:39] exercises and thus this lack of response from South
[00:17:43] Korea indicates that they seek to avoid
[00:17:47] the damage internally as externally that this could
[00:17:50] cause. I believe that at this moment they will seek
[00:17:54] reassurance of really what the United States' commitment position
[00:17:58] is also from other actors like Japan that has
[00:18:01] also increasingly relied on this concept of a defense
[00:18:05] triangle between Japan,
[00:18:10] South Korea and the United States against not only North Korea but other actors like mainland
[00:18:14] China, so that also creates a certain
[00:18:17] discomfort and uncertainty, but it is noted that Korea as well as
[00:18:21] Japan are trying to handle this diplomatically behind the
[00:18:24] scenes instead of launching
[00:18:30] is surely something that they have been entrusted with
[00:18:33] very much. Now I'm going to get into
[00:18:37] the role of China and
[00:18:40] also Russia alongside North Korea because it must be remembered that a few
[00:18:44] months ago the three leaders were seen at military parades, all three
[00:18:48] together, but I want to close the South Korea
[00:18:51] part, because a few months ago
[00:18:55] from the Trump administration Pitt Hedset spoke
[00:18:58] precisely when he complained that Europe was not paying enough
[00:19:02] for its defense, he gave South Korea as an example, which had invested
[00:19:06] in defending itself, so this turn
[00:19:09] by Donald Trump can be read as a challenge due to his position with
[00:19:12] Iran, as something temporary, how should this
[00:19:16] be interpreted, because until recently South Korea was an example and now it is
[00:19:19] not? Well, the reality is that
[00:19:23] the United States has made two references, on the one hand
[00:19:26] Europe has already mentioned the South as a positive
[00:19:30] example, but with South Korea itself it has pressured
[00:19:34] South Korea to do more, especially in contributing to its own
[00:19:37] defense, given the great influence that the United States maintains in
[00:19:41] troops and other things, so I believe that it is understood
[00:19:45] as this part of pressure that is part of the national
[00:19:48] security strategy of this administration to demand
[00:19:51] everyone to do more for their own defense and alliance,
[00:19:55] but also, as you mention, I believe that more immediately
[00:19:58] there were indications from the very comments of President
[00:20:01] Trump that this open lack of cooperation on
[00:20:05] the part of South Korea with our efforts in the Persian
[00:20:09] Gulf, which perhaps had added to this
[00:20:12] annoyance of President Trump, as implying, well, you
[00:20:16] are not going to help here, so why should we spend so much on this
[00:20:20] very expensive
[00:20:23] exercise? So it seems there is an element to this, although it is only
[00:20:27] reading between the lines.
[00:20:30] And now I want to get into the relationship of Kim Jong Un with
[00:20:34] Vladimir Putin, also with Xi Jinping, what does this
[00:20:37] good rapport between these three leaders imply
[00:20:41] and what does it mean that precisely the United States decides to lower
[00:20:45] tensions or also talk about one of them? Well,
[00:20:49] surely. we have to understand triangles within triangles
[00:20:52] with this relationship, but I believe that both Vladimir Putin
[00:20:56] are also happy but a little
[00:21:00] uncomfortable, on the one hand President Xi, anything
[00:21:03] that causes problems, takes
[00:21:07] away the United States' position in Asia, it is a benefit to
[00:21:11] China, so he already achieved this in these
[00:21:14] comments, on the other hand any rapprochement between the
[00:21:18] president or Kim.
[00:22:06] And taking a bit of this situation that we now see with North Korea, also the
[00:22:09] situation with Iran, China ends up being in some way the big
[00:22:13] winner of this situation because the United States invests resources
[00:22:17] in attacking military exercises that it later
[00:22:20] suspends and so on, but I mean in the Strait of Hormuz today Chinese ships
[00:22:24] have a certain preference to pass with Kim Jong Un, China also has a good
[00:22:27] relationship, in the end China ends
[00:22:31] up being more benefited by all these comings and goings of the United
[00:22:34] States. Really in all these areas China
[00:22:37] is the net beneficiary, whether in Iran on the one
[00:22:41] hand if China is buying oil from Iran, Iran
[00:22:45] is also giving China and Chinese ships privileged
[00:22:48] access through those straits and also
[00:22:52] through the oil pipeline that passes through Central Asia,
[00:22:55] so Iran is becoming increasingly dependent also on drone
[00:22:59] production, there is some evidence that perhaps China would have
[00:23:02] delivered more drones that could be used against
[00:23:06] targets in the Persian Gulf, but
[00:23:11] also happens with Russia, that Russia sells very
[00:23:15] cheaply food and oil
[00:23:18] to China, China.
[00:23:20] or war materials to Russia that allow it, but
[00:23:24] increasingly Russia just like Iran are
[00:23:27] more dependent on China, while China is
[00:23:30] enriching itself, while its rivals, the
[00:23:34] United States especially, are wasting money
[00:23:37] distracted by the two wars, and thus with
[00:23:41] fewer options to really resist China, if China
[00:23:45] decides to end Taiwan's autonomy or act differently
[00:23:48] in Asia, then. I believe that in all these dimensions China is
[00:23:52] the big winner of playing
[00:23:55] this intelligently and
[00:23:56] quietly. Finally, professor, how do we proceed
[00:24:00] after this announcement from Donald Trump, trying
[00:24:03] to continue on this path of having a good
[00:24:07] relationship with North Korea, simply stopping here and maintaining
[00:24:10] this position and seeing what happens? How do you think this
[00:24:14] turn that President Trump has announced will
[00:24:17] evolve? Well, I believe. Here the fundamental
[00:24:20] question is to what extent this personal
[00:24:24] diplomacy and improvised personal leadership of President
[00:24:27] Trump can have positive impacts in all these arenas,
[00:24:31] whether we have seen this question of whether we are really
[00:24:34] achieving or not achieving in this
[00:24:37] gulfs
[00:24:40] etc., this same question that began
[00:24:43] years ago in Trump's first administration with the personal
[00:24:47] negotiation between President Trump and Kim Jong. nuclear agreements that
[00:24:51] in the end achieved nothing and again we realize
[00:24:54] that we are improvising to create certain doubts among
[00:24:58] our allies with the hope that this personal
[00:25:01] diplomacy of President Trump will lead to good results and well, of course
[00:25:05] this is also like we have seen with President Trump's
[00:25:08] personal diplomacy with Vladimir Putin, in the end I believe
[00:25:12] that we will see what the results of this
[00:25:15] new style of conducting diplomacy and pursuing
[00:25:19] the interests of the United States in the
[00:25:22] world are. Professor, thank you for being with us,
[00:25:26] that was Evan Ellis, professor at the U.S. Army War College who has been with
[00:25:30] us tonight here on Conclusions, thank you very much
[00:25:32] to you.
[00:25:34] We will take a break and then we will be back with the end of
[00:25:37] Conclusions.
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[00:27:02] President Donald Trump, I have an external perspective,
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[00:27:42] I am Mexican-British, I have been practicing
[00:27:46] journalism in Mexico City, in the United
[00:27:50] States and now in Miami for CNN. CNN
[00:27:53] America is a multi-platform program where you will
[00:27:57] have information from all areas that will allow you to
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[00:28:08] political economic perspective, but also
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[00:28:15] space where we can have conversations, not to
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[00:28:23] What excites me the most is informing, inquiring,
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[00:28:47] What we see are never-before-seen images, 10 years after the capture of
[00:28:51] Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán, which Mexican media, Aristegui Noticias
[00:28:55] and El Universal, have recently disseminated and show the
[00:28:58] Mexican drug trafficker in the moments after his
[00:29:01] arrest. CNN has not independently verified when or where
[00:29:05] the images were recorded and has contacted the Attorney General of the
[00:29:08] Republic to request comments and inquire if they could
[00:29:12] confirm the authenticity of these
[00:29:15] images. Thus we reach the end of this edition of
[00:29:18] Conclusions, Fernando del Rincón's program, I'm Iván Pérez Armenti,
[00:29:21] thank you for your company, see you tomorrow here on the CNN en Español screen, have
[00:29:24] a very good
[00:29:25] night
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