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[00:00:00] for all persons with disabilities. The support of
[00:00:03] organizations have helped to raise awareness of the best means to
[00:00:07] support families and people with down syndrome. Through the power
[00:00:11] to make a difference program, they support us
[00:00:13] with our workshops and we have these workshops quarterly, along
[00:00:17] with our conference annually in March where we bring
[00:00:21] parents together with professionals, you
[00:00:24] occupational therapists, speech therapists, physiotherapists
[00:00:28] and even as we have. today in our
[00:00:31] workshop, financial specialist
[00:00:34] from Republic Bank to tell
[00:00:37] you ask for it and they don't give it to you. Let's go with us all about planning for the future investments and even starting from
[00:00:40] basic from a bank account and how that could
[00:00:44] help us plan for our children's future,
[00:00:47] so power to make a difference is
[00:00:50] really making a difference traits partnership with the down syndrome
[00:00:54] family network and we hope that as we continue
[00:00:57] they will help add our cry.
[00:01:00] for legislation for persons with disabilities to continue
[00:01:04] making that difference and changing the lives of
[00:01:08] persons with disabilities forever going
[00:01:11] forward. one of the most dynamic fundraising events for the
[00:01:14] organization is the annual fashion with us, which is a
[00:01:18] true inclusive celebration. today we
[00:01:21] celebrated the 15th anniversary of the down
[00:01:24] syndrome family network and the fourth fashion with
[00:01:28] us program. passion with us was the idea
[00:01:32] and... this is a much behind creating inclusive forum for
[00:01:35] persons with down syndrome to also model on stage with
[00:01:39] typical models. we joined with the top
[00:01:42] designers in trinidad and tobago under the creative
[00:01:45] direction of Richard Young to create a
[00:01:49] marvelous fashion show. all of our kids over
[00:01:52] 14 years old are invited to do a model call and
[00:01:56] then they practice, they come and they practice and have their sessions.
[00:02:00] fashion with us really has elevated the idea of
[00:02:03] inclusion, because once you can presume that
[00:02:07] someone is competent and you give them an opportunity to be
[00:02:10] included, they will show you exactly what they can
[00:02:13] do, so we are so happy that we were able to bring all of this together
[00:02:17] again in its fourth
[00:02:19] they carried in their luggage, in year at the hat and to celebrate
[00:02:22] diversity and inclusion. every year we
[00:02:25] do a little more, I ask a little more of them, I give them a little
[00:02:29] more... difficult moves, they get more accustomed to the models
[00:02:33] as well, they understand what they're doing for the
[00:02:36] designers, so you know they really differently abled, and this is
[00:02:40] what we need to understand when we're working with people
[00:02:43] who are differently abled, that their ability is
[00:02:46] just as keen as ours, if you give them a
[00:02:49] chance, so today was fashion with us, it's all about inclusion, we
[00:02:53] presented 12 fashion houses, we had cast
[00:02:57] of over 75 models, we had the top
[00:03:00] designers in the country, they're
[00:03:02] extensive use of visa
[00:03:02] the opposition all part of it, they were all so thankful that they were included,
[00:03:05] they were hugging and loving and sharing,
[00:03:09] and the models, i think it also does something for the models themselves, the models have
[00:03:13] the revocation of another responsibility when you're
[00:03:15] working with a down syndrome advocate, and
[00:03:18] so the backstage is just filled with love, filled with
[00:03:22] cooperation, events like this are a showcase of the true
[00:03:26] potential of people with down syndrome once they are embraced.
[00:03:30] by our communities, I
[00:03:32] will tell anybody with a child with
[00:03:34] dongson
[00:03:36] drone to you, look, search for the chiren skill, don't keep them back,
[00:03:39] don't, you know, it's
[00:03:42] revocation of not what you want them to do, you have to see what they
[00:03:44] are capable of doing and push them, love them
[00:03:47] because they are really sweet children, they are beautiful
[00:03:51] children, they can teach you how to be better person,
[00:03:55] better parent, support for people with down syndrome
[00:03:59] does not begin and end on one day of the year, with the support of
[00:04:02] family, networks and community, people with down
[00:04:06] syndrome can reach their full potential and enjoy the very
[00:04:56] know. What I do know is that
[00:07:02] Offenheimer, the State Department reported a few days ago that it had
[00:07:06] already revoked 175
[00:07:09] US entry visas since the return of the president to the White
[00:07:12] House in January of last year. Among the most
[00:07:16] recent, best-known cases are those of Andrés Manuel López
[00:07:19] Beltrán, known as Andy, the son of former Mexican
[00:07:23] president Andrés Manuel López Obrador, the
[00:07:25] Brazilian ambassador in Washington, and last
[00:07:28] year, Nobel Peace Prize winner and former president of Costa Rica, Óscar Arias
[00:07:32] and several other Supreme Court magistrates,
[00:07:35] deputies,
[00:07:38] journalists from Costa Rica. See what
[00:07:41] Óscar Arias told me a few
[00:07:43] hours ago
[00:07:49] about this. My visa was revoked last
[00:07:53] year, just like several
[00:07:56] magistrates of
[00:07:59] our Supreme Court of Justice,
[00:08:02] also some
[00:08:06] deputies of our legislative
[00:08:09] assembly, all of them
[00:08:12] belonging to
[00:08:15] party to the government of
[00:08:18] former president Rodrigo Chávez.
[00:08:21] Another example was
[00:08:25] the visa of the members of the Board of
[00:08:28] Directors of the newspaper La
[00:08:32] Nación, the most prestigious
[00:08:35] media outlet
[00:08:37] in the country. None of
[00:08:41] us have
[00:08:44] been informed of the reason
[00:08:48] why the embassy has
[00:08:51] communicated to us the
[00:08:54] the visa of the United
[00:08:57] States.
[00:09:01] In parallel, the Trump government also circulated proposals to study more
[00:09:05] closely the social media history of applicants for
[00:09:09] tourist and study visas to the United States, although it is not clear
[00:09:12] if that has already been put into practice. Today we will
[00:09:16] analyze if it is becoming increasingly difficult to enter the United
[00:09:20] States and what parameters the Trump administration is using to
[00:09:24] decide who receives a visa and who doesn't. We will
[00:09:27] talk to Ambassador Brian Nicholls
[00:09:30] who, until less than 2 years ago, was the Assistant Secretary of State for Western
[00:09:34] Hemisphere Affairs for Latin America. He was the head of all
[00:09:37] US ambassadors in Latin
[00:09:41] America and the Caribbean. And to hear another side of the story, we will have
[00:09:44] Carlos Díaz Rosillo, who was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense
[00:09:47] for Western Hemisphere Affairs, Latin
[00:09:50] America, during the first Trump administration.
[00:09:53] And later in the program, we will change the subject and
[00:09:57] analyze if the United States will increase its military
[00:10:00] operations against drug traffickers in Latin
[00:10:03] America. Why? Because Defense Secretary Pete
[00:10:07] Hexeth announced that Colombia has already asked to carry out
[00:10:11] joint military operations against drug traffickers, although the Colombian
[00:10:14] government has not yet confirmed it. The
[00:10:17] Trump government has already been attacking boats of alleged drug traffickers in the
[00:10:21] Caribbean, in the Pacific, but the big
[00:10:25] question is whether operations will now be carried out on land
[00:10:29] against cocaine laboratories and other
[00:10:32] drug trafficking activities. And another big question is whether Trump will order
[00:10:35] unilateral attacks on land against alleged drug traffickers in
[00:10:39] Mexico. The Mexican government said that it
[00:10:43] accepts cooperation in intelligence, also in
[00:10:46] training, but not in military operations on
[00:10:49] Mexican soil. Well, let's start with the issue of visa
[00:10:53] revocations and visa denials. They are also two different
[00:10:56] things. Revoking is when you have it and they take it away from you. Denying is when
[00:11:02] Ambassador Brian Nichols, former head of the State Department for
[00:11:06] Latin America. Ambassador, thank you for being with
[00:11:09] us. Well, Ambassador, you were in charge of the
[00:11:12] State Department for Latin America until
[00:11:15] very recently and you know that the practice of denying visas is not
[00:11:18] new. It was already said before, what
[00:11:22] changed? Is there a significant increase
[00:11:25] in visa denials or not? I believe that
[00:11:29] there has been a
[00:11:32] change in the use of visa
[00:11:35] denial for political or
[00:11:38] economic purposes in
[00:11:41] the service of the Trump administration,
[00:11:44] before it was
[00:11:48] a legal framework focused on
[00:11:51] corruption, drug trafficking,
[00:11:54] terrorism
[00:11:57] wider range of visa denials. CNN
[00:12:01] recently reported that there have been 175
[00:12:05] visa revocations, meaning, more than a visa denial, people who had
[00:12:09] the visa, as we said recently, had it taken away from them.
[00:12:13] A few days ago, it was the case of the son of the former
[00:12:16] president of Mexico. He said in a letter he published on
[00:12:20] Instagram that his visa had been revoked.
[00:12:23] Is this particular case new or was it already being
[00:12:27] considered when you were leading the State Department for Latin
[00:12:30] America? Well, I think in this case
[00:12:34] eh
[00:12:36] it is supposed to be a case of
[00:12:39] corruption by the son
[00:12:42] of the former president. However,
[00:12:46] to get involved with
[00:12:49] a close relative of the former president,
[00:12:52] a political power
[00:12:56] in Mexico is something
[00:12:58] unusual, but if
[00:13:02] we are seeing the
[00:13:04] situation in Mexico, the case of the
[00:13:08] now former governor of Sinaloa,
[00:13:11] other officials of the Mexican
[00:13:14] state, people with a political
[00:13:18] profile, that is something
[00:13:22] that is noticed, the more
[00:13:27] denial, visa
[00:13:30] revocation, but was this case already being considered when
[00:13:34] you were leading the State Department for Latin
[00:13:38] America or is it something new? Well, we have always used
[00:13:41] the revocation
[00:13:44] the denial the prohibition
[00:13:47] of obtaining a visa for the United States in
[00:13:51] cases of corruption,
[00:13:55] trafficking or terrorism, but
[00:13:57] there was a legal framework
[00:14:01] with a high bar
[00:14:04] to deny a visa or revoke a visa.
[00:14:07] It is not something that can be done
[00:14:10] easily, at least
[00:14:13] historically in the US government,
[00:14:16] but do you remember when you were in charge, was the case of the
[00:14:20] son of the president of Mexico being considered or not?
[00:14:24] Well, I don't want to get into
[00:14:27] conversations of this nature. Okay, the
[00:14:31] Trump administration revoked the visa of the Brazilian ambassador in
[00:14:34] Washington and before that, several figures
[00:14:38] Óscar Arias and former president of Costa Rica. I just spoke to
[00:14:42] him. We just played what he told us. He told me that they
[00:14:45] still haven't returned his visa and that he doesn't know why they took it away. Do you have
[00:14:49] any idea why they took his visa away?
[00:14:52] Well, the only thing I have
[00:14:55] read is that
[00:14:58] it could be because of some political statements
[00:15:02] he has made recently.
[00:15:06] I think that in the case
[00:15:09] of Costa Rica the visa has
[00:15:12] also been revoked
[00:15:16] to the board of
[00:15:19] a newspaper
[00:15:23] there as well. for
[00:15:26] reasons of the statements
[00:15:30] or reports of the newspaper,
[00:15:34] so it is a use that
[00:15:38] is not, according to
[00:15:40] the criterion
[00:15:44] of what I understand is the framework of the
[00:15:47] law of the United States, so that there are no
[00:15:51] doubts, what do you think of this more
[00:15:54] extensive use of visa denial and revocation? Is it
[00:15:57] good or is it bad? I think
[00:16:00] it is
[00:16:02] bad. And why is it
[00:16:05] bad?
[00:16:10] The Trump administration wants to use all the
[00:16:13] tools it has to
[00:16:16] leverage its goals,
[00:16:19] to gain an advantage in
[00:16:22] negotiations, to support its allies
[00:16:26] and punish the opponents
[00:16:29] of the Trump administration according to its
[00:16:32] vice of
[00:16:35] closing the possibilities of an open
[00:16:39] debate on policies in the region
[00:16:42] or within a country, when it is only
[00:16:46] about an expression
[00:16:49] of free thought
[00:16:53] of someone, that is something very
[00:16:57] worrying that goes against
[00:17:00] the spirit of the
[00:17:03] United States constitution and
[00:17:07] will generate antibodies,
[00:17:11] opposition in the system
[00:17:14] in the region against
[00:17:18] the United States in the medium and long
[00:17:22] term, that's why I think it's not a good
[00:17:25] idea. The State Department also reported that more than
[00:17:28] 6,000 student visas have been denied. Is this
[00:17:32] about students new or was it done before when
[00:17:35] you were in charge? No,
[00:17:38] that is something extremely worrying
[00:17:42] for me that in many countries
[00:17:45] in the world they are closing
[00:17:48] consular sections, especially in Africa,
[00:17:51] they are sending visa applicants to
[00:17:54] another country to apply for the visa.
[00:17:57] There are
[00:18:00] requirements for a bond
[00:18:04] for the trip on the part of the
[00:18:08] applicants,
[00:18:10] they have reduced the number of foreign
[00:18:14] students who are studying in the United
[00:18:17] States, and we know that these
[00:18:20] students, when they leave
[00:18:24] university or a postgraduate degree in the United
[00:18:27] States, become, in the vast majority,
[00:18:31] ambassadors for the United States, talking
[00:18:34] about how good their experience was
[00:18:38] in the United States
[00:18:41] and bringing common values to
[00:18:44] their countries of origin. Denying
[00:18:47] visas to people who will be allies
[00:18:50] of the United States seems like a very bad
[00:18:54] idea, Ambassador. What will happen with the Trump government's proposal to review
[00:18:58] the social networks of those who apply, for example, for a tourist
[00:19:01] visa? This is new, right?
[00:19:04] Well, before there was the
[00:19:08] possibility of
[00:19:10] reviewing computers,
[00:19:13] mobile phones of people
[00:19:17] entering the United States at the port of
[00:19:20] entry to the United States.
[00:19:22] In the case of visa
[00:19:26] applicants, yes, there was the possibility
[00:19:30] of requesting that information,
[00:19:33] but not to check
[00:19:38] their Twitter
[00:19:41] and Facebook or anything looking
[00:19:43] for their political opinions,
[00:19:46] but rather
[00:19:49] with drug trafficking or terrorism or
[00:19:53] something very serious, and
[00:19:56] for me, freedom
[00:19:59] of expression is something very important
[00:20:02] for all peoples
[00:20:05] and the United States should
[00:20:09] be the leader in promoting freedom of
[00:20:13] expression worldwide, and to
[00:20:15] make people afraid to
[00:20:19] express themselves, that is something worrying
[00:20:22] for me. Is it known if this Trump administration proposal was put into
[00:20:26] practice, because I also read that it is not clear if it is being
[00:20:30] implemented. I don't
[00:20:33] in the visa application form,
[00:20:37] one has to put their
[00:20:41] name as it appears on social
[00:20:43] media. That requirement
[00:20:47] has existed.
[00:20:52] So if they wanted to implement it more
[00:20:54] severely, they could, they would have the staff to do it. How do you review
[00:20:58] the social networks of millions and millions of people who
[00:21:02] apply for a tourist visa to visit the United
[00:21:05] States? Well, artificial intelligence, I think, is the way to
[00:21:09] implement it. However,
[00:21:12] the value of
[00:21:14] looking for that information, of
[00:21:18] seeing if someone posted a meme
[00:21:21] of something,
[00:21:24] it seems to me that it doesn't have
[00:21:27] much value in determining if the person
[00:21:31] meets the
[00:21:34] requirements for the visa. No, we have to note that we
[00:21:38] repeatedly invited the State Department to come to this program and
[00:21:42] explain to us exactly what the criteria are for revoking or denying
[00:21:46] visas. So far, they have not responded positively. We have to make a break.
[00:22:17] CNN correspondent. Of all the jobs I
[00:22:20] have done, the one that has perhaps impacted me most personally has
[00:22:23] been the coverage of the war in Ukraine. Seeing and
[00:22:27] narrating the stories of some of these thousands of refugees has
[00:22:31] undoubtedly been very difficult, but also necessary.
[00:22:35] Narrating their stories has served to
[00:22:38] dimension the drama of this war,
[00:22:41] to convey the pain it is causing among
[00:22:44] so many innocent people. However, something that has
[00:22:48] surprised me a lot has been the integrity with which
[00:22:52] these people crossed the border. They didn't shed a
[00:22:55] single tear unless we asked them about what
[00:22:59] they had left behind, their families, their
[00:23:02] belongings. But to that, I would also add
[00:23:05] that the extra
[00:23:09] the few suitcases they carried with them, was surprising,
[00:23:12] and that is hope.
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[00:25:24] Thank you for continuing with us, we are analyzing the revocations,
[00:25:27] denials and refusals of entry visas to the United
[00:25:31] States. The State Department reported a few days ago
[00:25:34] that it had already revoked 175 entry
[00:25:38] visas to the United States since President Trump returned to the White
[00:25:41] House in January of last year. These are visas
[00:25:45] that had already been granted that were
[00:25:47] taken away. Many are coming.
[00:25:50] We have with us Carlos Díaz Rosillo, former senior White House official
[00:25:54] during President Trump's first administration, a man close to the
[00:25:58] current US government. Let's go with him. Carlos Díaz Rosillo,
[00:26:01] thank you for being with us.
[00:26:04] Well, as we just said, the State Department
[00:26:08] has said that it has significantly increased its visa restrictions
[00:26:12] on people who operate in favor, they said, of US adversaries. What
[00:26:15] do you say to the criticism that it's one thing
[00:26:19] not to let a potential terrorist into the country and it's
[00:26:22] a very different thing not to let someone in who thinks differently, who
[00:26:26] criticized President Trump, for example? What do you say to those
[00:26:29] criticisms? Of course, Andrés, you used
[00:26:33] the right word, adversaries.
[00:26:35] The available tools are being used to
[00:26:39] ensure that adversaries of US interests do not enter the United
[00:26:42] States. Entering the United States is not a
[00:26:45] right, it is a privilege, and the US government is the one that
[00:26:49] grants that privilege. You don't have to be a terrorist, you don't have to be
[00:26:53] a member of a criminal
[00:26:56] organization to be an adversary, to want to come to the United States to harm
[00:27:00] it. And what the government is doing is
[00:27:04] using all available tools to ensure
[00:27:08] that people who have expressed opinions that are
[00:27:11] not only adverse but also demonstrate a history of
[00:27:14] violence, who want to come to harm the United States, do not enter. All
[00:27:18] those who want to come to invest in the United States, to do tourism in
[00:27:21] the United States, will always be welcome. Here it is about
[00:27:24] using these tools to ensure that those who should
[00:27:28] not enter because they want to harm the United States do not enter. But what do
[00:27:32] you say to the criticism that the United States has revoked the visa, for example, of
[00:27:36] Nobel Peace Prize winner and former president of Costa Rica, Óscar Arias,
[00:27:39] magistrates, deputies, recognized journalists from Costa
[00:27:43] Rica? Wasn't his visa revoked because he had expressed
[00:27:46] an opinion against President Trump? I don't think so.
[00:27:50] There are opinions against President Trump all over
[00:27:53] the world. Just turn on the television,
[00:27:56] listen to the radio and see how he is criticized for absolutely
[00:28:00] everything. However, many journalists, leaders who criticize President
[00:28:04] Trump openly, can enter the United
[00:28:08] States. So to say that all those who criticize Trump cannot
[00:28:12] enter, I think is an exaggeration and does not correspond to
[00:28:15] reality, because I repeat, all or almost all media
[00:28:18] criticize President Trump for what he does, for what he doesn't do, for what he
[00:28:22] says, for what he doesn't say, and yet they can enter the United States freely. But
[00:28:26] do you really believe that former president Óscar Arias and the
[00:28:29] members of the Supreme Court and deputies and journalists of the municipal
[00:28:33] newspaper of Costa Rica terrorist, a potential for
[00:28:37] violence, I don't think it represents a terrorist
[00:28:41] threat or a potential for violence, no, but it was
[00:28:43] determined with information that neither you nor I have that it is not in the interest of
[00:28:47] the United States for those people to enter the country, I repeat, I don't think it is
[00:28:51] any kind of violent or terrorist
[00:28:54] threat, but those are not the only reasons why a person
[00:28:58] does not receive permission to enter the United States. What
[00:29:01] do you think of the recent decision to revoke the visa of the son of the
[00:29:05] former Mexican president Andrés Manuel López Obrador, and not
[00:29:08] only him, but many Mexican government officials, including acting governors
[00:29:12] who cannot enter the United States? One of the things
[00:29:16] I learned when I worked in the American government for 4
[00:29:20] years, including in the White House, is that often the information presented to
[00:29:24] the media, the public information that you and I have, is not
[00:29:27] always the most accurate, there must be very strong
[00:29:30] information. from the US State Department
[00:29:34] that suggests that the
[00:29:36] entry
[00:29:39] of Andy into the United States endangers the security of
[00:29:43] the United States, without knowing the intelligence in detail I cannot comment, but I imagine that
[00:29:47] decision was not taken lightly. The State
[00:29:50] Department said that more than 175
[00:29:53] visas have been revoked under this government of President Trump,
[00:29:56] there has also been a proposal to review the social media of
[00:30:00] those who apply for a tourist visa.
[00:30:02] Is that not a form of censorship, that is, is it not something that
[00:30:06] harms the image of the United States and that can also destroy the tourism
[00:30:10] industry in the United States? Look, in that particular case I think it was a
[00:30:13] good decision, why? Because there are many people who enter the United
[00:30:17] States with objectives that are not positive for the United States,
[00:30:21] people who come and start protesting, start generating
[00:30:25] controversies and the objective of an immigration system
[00:30:28] is to allow people who want to migrate, in this case to
[00:30:31] the United States, to have a positive contribution to the country,
[00:30:35] I'll give you an example of the former president of Colombia, whose
[00:30:38] visa to enter was revoked, because when he goes to New
[00:30:41] York to give his speech before the United Nations, he goes to a neighborhood in
[00:30:45] New York to tell the military not to obey the orders of the
[00:30:49] commander-in-chief, people who have such a history,
[00:30:52] people who promote violence on social media,
[00:30:56] actively promote civil disobedience.