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I'm José Antonio Montenegro, this is Globo Economía, today dedicating [00:00:52] our time to electrification and specifically [00:00:56] to how, despite the very strong attack it is [00:01:00] receiving from the fossil [00:01:03] fuel industries, well, it has all the [00:01:06] future in the world, there is no way that [00:01:09] the electrification process [00:01:12] can be stopped, there are many reasons to support [00:01:15] this advance, this [00:01:18] desire for the future to be electrification and among [00:01:21] them some of the most prominent ones [00:01:25] we are unfortunately experiencing in these recent times, which are the [00:01:28] interferences that all the geopolitical [00:01:31] or global oil problems around [00:01:35] our lives, [00:01:38] to health eh, the dependence we have on oil is tyrannical [00:01:41] and the world is increasingly determined to break [00:01:45] that tyranny, although it is a process that obviously requires a change [00:01:49] of energy matrix from one type of energy [00:01:52] to another, well, it is in [00:01:55] process and it is underway and it has [00:01:58] not stopped nor will it stop in a abrupt [00:02:00] way, but in addition to these reasons for what [00:02:04] we are experiencing right now, there are fundamental reasons, reasons [00:02:08] for the cost it has, reasons for its cleanliness, obviously, it is a [00:02:12] clean energy, and for the jobs [00:02:15] it creates around its development, its [00:02:18] expansion, it is definitive, [00:02:24] depend. definitely a topic for the future and that is why [00:02:26] we want to put it and analyze it like this, because we [00:02:30] have titled it, there is no turning back, that is [00:02:32] what in some way is there, the countries [00:02:36] that are doing it, have embarked more on [00:02:39] the issue of electrification and that have already been doing it for some years are [00:02:43] already receiving the benefits of that [00:02:46] decision and we are also going to take care of those [00:02:50] grammatigo, the case of China, of course, but also several [00:02:54] European countries, but let's go now to the detailed [00:02:57] analysis with the help of the [00:02:59] what I say about the impact of the expert, who is our guest today, [00:03:02] Javier Sierra, expert on environmental [00:03:06] and climate issues and who is already connected, Javier, thank you very much for being [00:03:09] with us, thank you very much, José [00:03:12] Antonio, [00:03:14] seeing every day the consequences of and thank you for focusing [00:03:18] now at the beginning this title that we have given it, [00:03:21] electrification, no turning back, is that [00:03:25] right or are we being too [00:03:27] optimistic. [00:03:30] Ah, obviously, there's no turning back, [00:03:34] we are seeing, unfortunately, here in the United States it has become an international [00:03:38] pair from the [00:03:40] yes, it's energy point of view, it is unstoppable in the rest of the world, the United States [00:03:42] is only a part of the international community, [00:03:46] ah, the reasons are very broad for [00:03:49] eh, electrifying the economy, [00:03:52] electrifying not only from the consumer's point of view, but also [00:03:56] from industry, from the economy in general, and one... [00:04:00] the fundamental reasons is how expensive dirty [00:04:02] energy and polluting [00:04:06] fossil fuels are, for example, energy [00:04:09] inflation in the United States has grown almost [00:04:11] 16% in the last 12 months and the [00:04:15] sun's rays or the wind war against Iran is the crucial [00:04:18] Spain as an example of reason, the price of gasoline has increased almost 27% and that of electricity 4%. [00:04:21] Inflation in general has grown [00:04:24] 3.5% in the last 12 months and the [00:04:28] predictions are not good. José Antonio due to the volatility in [00:04:32] the Persian Gulf, for us Latinos the crisis is [00:04:34] gift, has started to run with especially acute, a study by Indiana [00:04:38] University, for example, revealed that two out of five Latinos have not [00:04:42] been able to pay one of their electricity bills and [00:04:45] 18% of Latino consumers have had their [00:04:49] electricity disconnected at some point, the energy burden of our people's [00:04:54] a historic leap in homes here in the United States is 20% [00:04:57] higher than that of white households for... [00:05:00] example, [00:05:02] a a dejar de [00:05:02] What excites electrification, as an element of the [00:05:05] future, has a lot, then we will go into [00:05:09] detail of a lot of advantages, as you said, from cost to jobs, [00:05:12] which it creates, which is an energy that is a process, [00:05:16] let's say, supported by a system of clean energy, renewable [00:05:20] energy, eh, there is obviously [00:05:23] a transition that needs to happen, that is not a change overnight, [00:05:27] but the very strong impact we are [00:05:30] seeing from fossil fuels is [00:05:34] delaying it, this is a process, the [00:05:37] delay that goes very far back in [00:05:39] time, no, no, obviously, there are some [00:05:43] vested interests, the oil industry was the most [00:05:46] powerful in the world, the richest in the world, ah, but what [00:05:50] we have to take very much into account is that climate [00:05:53] inaction is very expensive, I have a study [00:05:57] by Bloomberg Challenges concluded months ago that since [00:06:00] 2000, the damages due to the climate [00:06:04] crisis in the United States alone amount to [00:06:07] 7.7 trillion dollars, that is, trillions [00:06:10] in English, where does this [00:06:14] totally extravagant figure come from, especially [00:06:17] from the very serious damages that fossil fuel pollution causes to the [00:06:21] population, damages such as asthma, emphysema, [00:06:24] coronary diseases, cancer and even premature [00:06:27] death, these fuels emit tremendously toxic gases [00:06:30] that generate particulate matter, something that is [00:06:34] these are particles that lodge in the most [00:06:37] remote corners of the lungs causing these diseases, [00:06:41] millions of Latinos in the United States live in the areas with the worst [00:06:45] air quality in the country, which makes them especially vulnerable [00:06:48] to these diseases, as I [00:06:51] say, continuing on the path of dirty [00:06:55] fuels is something very expensive, [00:06:58] very expensive and ill-advised and a strategy that is certainly [00:07:02] already evident because enough time has passed, I said in my brief [00:07:05] introduction that there are countries like China that are already seeing [00:07:08] the advances and progress, then we will also talk more about... [00:07:12] or some European countries, but it is [00:07:15] clear that investing in that change, that is, going faster in the [00:07:19] transition, because I insist, it is not an overnight thing, [00:07:22] but going faster in the transition of the model yields [00:07:26] results and yields benefits, there are already [00:07:29] examples, right, yes, of course there are examples all over the [00:07:32] world, for several years now, all over the world, [00:07:36] more clean renewable energy has been installed than dirty energy, this [00:07:40] we are seeing, as you rightly said, especially in [00:07:42] Asia, China is leading this from a completely [00:07:46] overwhelming point of view, we have [00:07:48] given, the United States has [00:07:52] granted on a silver platter all the advantages for [00:07:56] China to become the leader of the economy of the future, [00:08:00] that's how it goes, but the thing is, and I [00:08:03] want to insist, José Antonio, the costs of [00:08:06] not electrifying energy, as it is called in the [00:08:10] global economy, through clean and renewable energy, [00:08:14] Latin America is, along with Africa, the region that has contributed the least [00:08:18] to the climate crisis and the one that is suffering the most [00:08:21] due to its consequences, the region spends [00:08:24] 4.5% of its GDP just [00:08:27] to mitigate the impact of the crisis, an illness, pardon me, [00:08:30] an enormity that leaves few resources to address [00:08:34] the solutions to this problem, something similar happens in the Latino community in the United [00:08:38] States, which is especially vulnerable to droughts, heat [00:08:42] waves, forest fires, intense [00:08:46] storms and their catastrophic [00:08:49] consequences, yes, [00:08:52] clear, and what you said about the economic impact, well, there are industries in [00:08:56] particular, like that of electric cars, that are being [00:08:59] lost to the future, because today, the leader [00:09:03] absolutely above all other countries is China, and [00:09:07] the prospects for the future, well, that reality can be changed, but it's [00:09:11] very difficult, right? [00:09:13] Tell me a little about that, we'll have to take a quick break, well, [00:09:17] quickly, once you grant a nation the [00:09:21] technological advantage, the financial [00:09:24] advantage and the political advantage [00:09:27] to become the number one power [00:09:31] from the point of view of the economy of the future, it is very [00:09:35] difficult to recover that lost space, especially when you do it [00:09:38] voluntarily, which is what is happening with the United States, it is giving [00:09:42] a gift to China on a platter, China has collected the [00:09:47] it and we are seeing that right now this country, we can talk a [00:09:51] little more later, but really it is [00:09:54] amazing what these people are achieving, yes, yes, yes, [00:09:58] no, indeed, although we will take a break, we will be back quickly and we will [00:10:01] be back just to continue delving into this, many advantages and [00:10:05] very few disadvantages of electrification, we have titled [00:10:09] it when we return from a short break, [00:10:35] As you can see, you can't see anything at this [00:10:37] point, only the roofs of the houses, these are [00:10:41] rivers that completely overflowed and have left [00:10:44] the community of Arcadia isolated, but many [00:10:48] other communities nearby. 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[00:13:43] Hello again, Globo Economía, today we are dedicating the [00:13:46] program's time to electrification, since there is no turning [00:13:50] back in electrification, an [00:13:53] analysis exercise that we are doing with Javier Sierra, who is an expert [00:13:57] on climate and environmental issues, and Javier, when we went to the break [00:14:00] eh well we were talking a little about how China [00:14:04] had advanced and how the United States was giving it [00:14:07] that advantage on a silver platter, but that's there and what one sees [00:14:11] in countries like China or several European countries that have also made [00:14:15] a great change in recent times, well, it is [00:14:18] that there are many more advantages to [00:14:21] electrification than the potential disadvantages, [00:14:25] and besides, the disadvantages, above all, are that it is something new and [00:14:29] that, well, sometimes it has its process of implementation [00:14:33] that is more difficult than things that have been around for 100 [00:14:37] or 200 years, no, look, let's take [00:14:43] the enormous advantages you were talking about of clean and [00:14:46] renewable energy, eh, over dirty energy for the [00:14:50] total electrification of the economy, as a result of the war against Iran and [00:14:54] the closure of the Strait. Dormooth, the energy prices in Europe soared, [00:14:57] well, in Europe, in the whole world, countries like Italy, [00:15:01] Germany and the United Kingdom were paying more than [00:15:04] €100 per MWh, however, in [00:15:08] Spain for that amount of electricity, about [00:15:11] €30 were paid, why? Because Spain since 2019 [00:15:15] has made [00:15:19] the generation of clean renewable energy, especially solar and [00:15:22] wind, since 2021 the... clean and [00:15:25] renewable energy has grown in Spain by about 40%, which is a [00:15:29] huge amount, this frees Spain from the disastrous [00:15:33] fluctuations in the prices of fossil fuels, mostly [00:15:37] from the Persian Gulf and other countries [00:15:40] in continuous conflict. There is an aspect, well, [00:15:43] I mentioned it briefly, but one of the [00:15:46] key factors is the number of jobs that are also created around [00:15:50] renewable energies, right? Apart from the fact that [00:15:54] as you say, it is much cheaper each time because there is also [00:15:57] a story, a false narrative that no, this is very [00:16:01] expensive, this is one when it started it was what was insisted on again and again, [00:16:04] well, after that we have already seen that that is something that has to do with the [00:16:08] beginnings of when renewables started, but right now it is actually the [00:16:12] opposite, that is, electrification makes everything cheaper, [00:16:15] but apart from that it creates a huge [00:16:18] industrial environment [00:16:21] and development and future [00:16:24] that has no price as job [00:16:27] creation, right? No, no, no, not only job [00:16:30] creation, José Antonio, ah, [00:16:34] look, we are seeing it all over the world. Let's talk [00:16:37] about China a little more because it is really something that is truly [00:16:41] amazing, look, years ago, [00:16:44] about 15 years ago or so, China had a huge [00:16:47] problem, a problem that really had it [00:16:50] practically on its knees, in its northeastern [00:16:53] quadrant is where practically the [00:16:56] immense majority of heavy industry is, the one that pollutes the most, there [00:17:00] live some 500 million people, just by living there they [00:17:03] lost 5 years of life due to [00:17:07] the... ination already, this implies some 2,500 [00:17:10] million years, imagine the cost [00:17:15] care these of China in [00:17:18] general that generated this enormity, these totally [00:17:21] exorbitant expenses, and what did they do, they invested hundreds of [00:17:25] thousands of millions of dollars, year after year after year, [00:17:29] certain goals were set to reach what they are today, [00:17:33] that they are completely surpassing what is the [00:17:37] the they still have it unfortunately, but it is being [00:17:41] enormously reduced the the what it had [00:17:45] especially of clean energy of dirty energy like [00:17:48] coal that was fundamentally what China burned the most and now what it is doing [00:17:52] is replacing everything with clean renewable energy, so it is not only [00:17:55] that its economy is growing enormously but also that the [00:17:59] health of the entire Chinese population is being [00:18:02] protected and not only that, a third [00:18:06] factor is being reduced. the greenhouse [00:18:10] gases that accumulate in the atmosphere and are causing this [00:18:13] climate crisis, we are going to have to take a break, but when [00:18:17] we come back we are going to focus, we are going to do a little wrap-up [00:18:21] of everything you have said, but we are going to focus on that aspect that from the [00:18:25] point of view of health, from the point of view of the world we want, from the point of [00:18:28] view of economics, so that all [00:18:32] of us have a decent way of [00:18:35] life, well, electrification is a key factor, stay with [00:18:39] us, Globo Economía. 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[00:23:07] Hello again, Globo Economía, we are talking about electrification and how there is [00:23:10] no turning back in the electrification process, no matter [00:23:14] how much the fossil fuel industry tries [00:23:18] to prevent it, we are doing it with Javier Sierra, [00:23:21] an expert on climate and environmental issues, in this [00:23:25] block we said when we were going to the break earlier, Javier, [00:23:29] that we wanted to do a little wrap-up and ask you to [00:23:33] put everything in a bucket and tell us, well, look, this [00:23:36] is what we should do, this is the most [00:23:40] difficult thing right now, these are the great threats, the great [00:23:43] threats, eh, what are they, well, in a generic way [00:23:49] fossil industries, eh, fancy [00:23:52] fossil industries, but what is it that we have to [00:23:55] try to avoid [00:23:58] with caution? I think we are [00:24:04] the climate crisis that unfortunately [00:24:07] in some of its aspects is already irreversible, the [00:24:10] extraordinary warming of the atmosphere due to [00:24:14] fossil fuel emissions favors droughts, extreme [00:24:16] heat that [00:24:20] dries out forests and turns them into tinder at the mercy of any [00:24:23] spark that ignites disaster, the reason is that with the excessive [00:24:27] warming of the atmosphere, winters are getting shorter every year and [00:24:31] summers longer, and winter already has a deficit of more than [00:24:35] 70 days and summer, of course, a surplus of 70 [00:24:39] days only here in North America, science warns us that we must [00:24:43] end dirty fuels that cause this tragedy [00:24:46] and promote a clean renewable energy economy that has been... [00:24:50] proven time and again, it is the cheapest [00:24:52] for the consumer, it is the cheapest to [00:24:55] install, the fastest to install and it also uses what [00:24:59] I will call a fuel that is free and inexhaustible, the [00:25:05] that occurs in the atmosphere, [00:25:08] what kind of growth in a situation in which, well, [00:25:12] everyone collaborates as much [00:25:14] as possible, which is not the current situation, but well, imagine that in a few [00:25:18] years we have a little more conviction about the [00:25:22] eh, well, the dead end that this current [00:25:25] strategy is and that we put even more means into going to [00:25:29] the energy matrix change, what [00:25:33] what, what is an ideal scenario, so to [00:25:35] speak, that we should reach in a decade [00:25:39] or so, [00:25:42] I don't know if we have a decade left, José Antonio, but I do tell you what [00:25:45] a fundamental ingredient would be, [00:25:49] fundamental for us to [00:25:52] fossil fuels behind, to end subsidies, [00:25:55] we are talking about billions of [00:25:58] dollars, 7 billion dollars, that is, 7 [00:26:02] billion dollars, there are so many zeros there that it is practically impossible [00:26:06] to understand this this this figure, to end [00:26:10] with the with the subsidies that the fossil [00:26:13] fuel industry receives, not only here in the United States but all over the [00:26:17] world, we have to start there and use those [00:26:20] resources to promote clean and renewable energies [00:26:24] that are already a reality, they are the cheapest, [00:26:27] I repeat it again because this needs to be repeated again and again, the cheapest not [00:26:31] only for... for the country in general, but for any particular [00:26:35] consumer, that's where we need to start, [00:26:39] the consumer, what, where can he, where can [00:26:42] we go, [00:26:45] where can we go, obviously electrification as you say [00:26:48] is the [00:26:51] that the appliances and devices that are available, [00:26:54] I have an electric car, I have an electric car [00:26:57] already, uh, thanks to the discounts I received from the [00:27:01] federal government. They reduced it by $10,000, [00:27:05] so, uh, especially now since the war in [00:27:08] Iran started, for example, I fill [00:27:12] it up, I'm charging it right now and that will last [00:27:16] me a whole month and it will cost me between 25 and [00:27:20] 27. It's a pretty big car, a car of that [00:27:22] size that runs on gasoline would [00:27:25] cost me 60, 70, $80 to fill [00:27:29] the fuel tank. It's huge. [00:27:32] If you have, uh, what is called [00:27:35] aerothermal energy at home, instead of other [00:27:39] traditional appliances, you are saving [00:27:42] half on the energy you generate, whether it's to heat the [00:27:45] house or to cool it, any, uh, all [00:27:49] the modern appliances come with a series [00:27:53] of devices that save you a lot of money, [00:27:57] so the solutions are already here from the consumer's point of [00:28:01] view and from the macroeconomic point of view, it's time for a [00:28:04] country to make decisions like Spain has, like China [00:28:08] is, to really leave behind the energies of the [00:28:11] past with all their terrible consequences [00:28:14] and to open wide an economy of clean, [00:28:17] renewable energy that benefits us all, our health, our, our [00:28:21] pockets and especially the atmosphere on which we all [00:28:26] What is clear is that the future will certainly not be linked [00:28:30] to coal jobs. [00:28:32] Nor to, and that well, many of the oil reserves that we so often [00:28:36] talk about and interested parties talk about in that [00:28:39] narrative that they are there, that there is a lot, will remain [00:28:43] underground because if [00:28:45] the future is allowed to advance and the, we talk, for example, about [00:28:49] the advance of technologies and we have to finish immediately as [00:28:52] well, uh, but [00:28:55] of course, a lot of progress is made in the area of energies, but [00:28:59] then for reasons of economic interests, they don't want [00:29:03] to replace it, complicating the change matrix, [00:29:06] this one that we have talked about for I don't know how many years, that well, for a time [00:29:10] there is oil, there is gas, I don't know, etc., but we are entering, [00:29:13] it is continuously interrupted for reasons of [00:29:17] little weight, well, we have to go, thank [00:29:21] you very much, Javier, for having been with us and for having [00:29:25] put on stage and in front of our eyes this [00:29:28] situation that is so to be resolved, but in which there is optimism and... [00:29:32] that indeed there is no turning back, thank [00:29:36] you very much, thank you, Antonio, greetings, [00:29:39] that was Javier Sierra, expert in [00:29:43] climate and environmental issues, thank you [00:29:46] of course for your kindness [00:29:49] in allowing us to enter your homes every week and [00:29:52] you know, if you want, we are with more in 7 [00:29:55] days, globe economy, a big [00:29:59] hug. [00:30:21] We are CNN, the world leader in [00:30:23] news. [00:30:37] Welcome to Conclusiones, I'm Iván Pérez Armenti for Fernando del [00:30:40] Rincón, today here on Conclusiones, a high-ranking [00:30:43] official confirmed to our network that President Donald Trump and the acting [00:30:47] president of Venezuela, Delsi Rodríguez, will hold an informal meeting [00:30:50] within the framework of the UN Assembly in New York. The meeting is scheduled for [00:30:54] Tuesday. The independent international fact-finding [00:30:58] mission of the UN.