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[00:00:10] defend it, the more you
[00:00:33] We continue in México Opina, talking about the problem of housing, we talked about the issue of VANV that
[00:00:37] a law was approved in Mexico, this has
[00:00:39] discouraged this type of rentals, or is it, let's say,
[00:00:42] an approach to the problem they are taking? I would say it's an
[00:00:46] approach to the problem, because it's been almost 2
[00:00:49] years, but one of the instruments hasn't really
[00:00:53] opened, the exact
[00:00:56] registry is not
[00:00:59] operating. The platforms and
[00:01:02] also the people who
[00:01:05] offer their homes through
[00:01:08] this formula, this really prevents us from having clarity
[00:01:12] regarding how many there
[00:01:14] are, where they are, let's say, they have also taken legal action
[00:01:18] to prevent this register from being opened.
[00:01:22] Angel of Independence at 9:30 So it's a bit early to
[00:01:25] say if it's going to work, but if
[00:01:28] we comparatively analyze this...
[00:01:31] purpose, let's say, the purpose of eh law with others that clearly have many more years of
[00:01:33] trying to regulate the phenomenon, I think it will be difficult for
[00:01:37] it to be effective because these are laws that require
[00:01:41] a lot of control from the state and that in other
[00:01:44] countries have gone much further than just this
[00:01:48] 50% of nights. There are countries that talk about
[00:01:51] 12%, there are countries or cities like New
[00:01:55] York that only consider the possibility of renting a
[00:01:58] room in a eh... home where the
[00:02:02] owner lives. This is due to the fact that they have circumvented the law, yes,
[00:02:05] clearly, there is always a
[00:02:09] very tough tug-of-war. The platforms themselves
[00:02:11] do their big lobbying, they do
[00:02:14] their eh lawsuits, so no, it's not a simple
[00:02:18] debate, but it seems to me that Barcelona, eh, when it states that
[00:02:22] in 2028 it will simply eliminate them, is telling
[00:02:26] what? I think to be a CEO in us that it is very difficult to find a balance between the...
[00:02:30] permanence of these new businesses that
[00:02:33] are very extractive because
[00:02:36] what they generate more income, let's say by dividing
[00:02:39] a home into small pieces, because you can even rent a
[00:02:44] global room eh in contrast to precisely the right to adequate housing. The situation is so extreme
[00:02:48] that Barcelona is talking about
[00:02:51] eliminating that type of problem for housing, yes, yes, it
[00:02:55] represents not the only problem, we always
[00:02:59] have it from Carla and me because then they also attack us with "oh
[00:03:03] no, these two always say
[00:03:05] is eh in the central areas of that Airbnb is not one of the multiple
[00:03:08] problems", but if we imagine that there are around 26,
[00:03:11] 27, this number is very changing, of
[00:03:15] homes on Airbnb only in this city, with an increase
[00:03:19] of 150% during
[00:03:21] the World Cup period, for example, in neighborhoods that had been exempt
[00:03:25] from this, like Santa Úrsula due to its proximity to the
[00:03:29] soccer stadium, we are talking about the subtraction from the
[00:03:33] traditional rental market, already so complex due to high prices, a very wide
[00:03:37] concentrated in, in the case of Mexico, in La
[00:03:38] Popumo or in housing market, and it has also been studied that there is an impact
[00:03:42] on general housing prices caused
[00:03:44] by these specific
[00:03:48] homes, at least in the surrounding areas. And another thing,
[00:03:51] we have analyzed that there is a kind of coincidence,
[00:03:55] perhaps not direct, let's say, because we cannot get
[00:03:58] these data, between where evictions are concentrated in
[00:04:02] our city, most of which are, for
[00:04:05] example, and the concentration of
[00:04:09] Airbnb. There is much more to study and
[00:04:11] analyze, but it is a red flag, I would say,
[00:04:15] there is no doubt. Marien Pilar, well,
[00:04:19] there it is, what you're telling us,
[00:04:22] Silvia, is super interesting. We would have to understand also the
[00:04:26] difference between dispossession and displacement.
[00:04:30] Because here again, we are talking right now about the
[00:04:34] digital platform Airbnb or what are
[00:04:36] the government of temporary accommodations through platforms, what happens is
[00:04:40] that what it is doing is displacing what is a home
[00:04:43] that perhaps has an owner
[00:04:46] eh with the potential to rent it out to
[00:04:50] local people who could rent or buy
[00:04:53] it, it does so for these short stays, right? So it generates
[00:04:57] real estate pressure as well, it raises
[00:05:00] prices, etc., which causes this
[00:05:03] pressure to be a very localized phenomenon, furthermore,
[00:05:07] we are talking about where the Airbnb phenomenon occurs,
[00:05:10] here in Mexico City.
[00:05:14] The centralities again, in Juárez, in
[00:05:17] Condesa, in Roma, the gentrification phenomenon, which we haven't
[00:05:21] talked about as such, but it's the same thing, where
[00:05:25] does it occur? So the problem, although it is not denying the
[00:05:28] problem, it is a problem of real estate pressure, there is a problem
[00:05:32] of population
[00:05:35] displacement, some of these can be eviction, which is different
[00:05:38] for me, but I am not the expert because you are the lawyers, but for me the phenomenon
[00:05:42] of displacement is different from eviction, but displacement
[00:05:45] can be direct, which is "I can't afford to pay more, I'm
[00:05:49] leaving" or it can be indirect, where the person has lived there
[00:05:53] for three generations, for example, or four
[00:05:56] generations, but everything around them started to change, the cost of living started
[00:05:59] to change, commercial offerings started to change,
[00:06:03] cultural offerings, services,
[00:06:05] and so they can no longer afford to live
[00:06:08] there, or their children will no longer be able to afford to live in
[00:06:12] that... which was their own. So it is indirect displacement.
[00:06:15] So there are several phenomena about
[00:06:19] eh eh all this issue of speculation towards what
[00:06:22] is rent, property, and
[00:06:25] also I would talk a bit about
[00:06:28] the visible
[00:06:31] phenomenon of touristification from platforms, it is the
[00:06:35] visible phenomenon and blaming a
[00:06:39] visible phenomenon or blaming a visible phenomenon with:
[00:06:42] like eh the the what they call
[00:06:45] now nomad, the digital nomads,
[00:06:49] touristification is a very
[00:06:52] visible situation but it is not the underlying issue because the underlying problem, once
[00:06:56] again, our phrase of the day today is structural and
[00:06:59] it is much more complex than that. One thing is that it is the most
[00:07:02] visible and what almost everyone talks about: how
[00:07:05] terrible, foreigners are coming and taking our homes,
[00:07:09] X, Y, and Z arrive, which is a lot of problems
[00:07:13] of social and economic nature, but it is very
[00:07:16] localized, we are talking here about an extension of what housing is
[00:07:20] in Mexico. Eh, well, it's a fact that
[00:07:23] the Airbnb issue, as Silvia says, is not the origin of
[00:07:27] all problems, it is not the only problem, in many cities
[00:07:31] it is not the main problem, but it is
[00:07:34] a problem and I do think
[00:07:37] it compares a lot the discussions about the housing crisis with
[00:07:40] the climate crisis, eh,
[00:07:43] I think we cannot, we could not accept that if we are talking about the
[00:07:47] need to reduce vehicle use, the
[00:07:50] counter-argument would be, "well, but it's not the only thing, there are other factors that
[00:07:53] contribute to
[00:07:57] warming, there's the issue of livestock, etc." Yes, yes, yes, but if we
[00:08:00] go by "it's not the only thing," we could not talk about any
[00:08:03] problem, and the same thing happens with the housing issue, with the housing
[00:08:07] crisis, it's not the only thing, but it is a problem that exists and we have to
[00:08:10] say it as it is, it is a problem that is not regulated and
[00:08:14] it is true, Airbnb
[00:08:17] cities, but that seems evident to me, because in the central
[00:08:21] areas tourism is usually found, in no city
[00:08:24] in the world, and I dare say never, will Airbnb be
[00:08:28] distributed equitably throughout
[00:08:31] an entire city, always by its
[00:08:34] nature, eh the Airbnbs will
[00:08:37] concentrate in tourist areas which are usually the
[00:08:41] central ones. And that does generate a problem because it's not
[00:08:44] just a matter of them being physically eh
[00:08:51] Lajuarez, but that all those people who are displaced by
[00:08:54] Airbnb will have to go somewhere, and that can
[00:08:58] generate a ripple effect in which people
[00:09:01] come to, I don't know, Doctores or Narvarte, and those people
[00:09:05] displaced from the center might have a little more purchasing
[00:09:08] power than the people who live there, and that keeps happening.
[00:09:12] So, in waves, as Silvia said, there is still a lot of data
[00:09:15] to cross-reference and even generate to
[00:09:18] be able to determine this type of relationship, but these
[00:09:22] ripple effects are very well documented in
[00:09:26] urban planning, in addition to the fact that not only has the increase in rent occurred in
[00:09:30] in in the center of Mexico City, but also in Iztapalapa it has increased, in
[00:09:33] Xochimilco it has increased proportionally to what
[00:09:36] they cost, obviously it doesn't cost the same in Iztapalapa than
[00:09:40] than or in Xochimilco than what it costs in in in La del
[00:09:44] Valle, I don't know, but there has been an equal
[00:09:47] increase, so we need to understand the Airbnb issue as an urban
[00:09:50] planning issue, as an issue of how this generates
[00:09:53] displacements, and we also need to understand its
[00:09:56] problematic not only from large cities, and as Silvia
[00:10:00] says, buildings have been documented, eh in fact, I
[00:10:03] learned a lot of what I know about housing rights from Silvia, for example, and I
[00:10:07] remember when, since I first came into contact with Silvia, the first
[00:10:11] cases I saw with her were entire buildings
[00:10:15] evicted by Airbnb for Airbnb, so those cases
[00:10:18] exist, so eh, I think we have to include them in that
[00:10:22] package without underestimating their
[00:10:26] importance, without that implying believing that by regulating Airbnb we
[00:10:29] will solve everything, of course not. I agree with what was mentioned about
[00:10:33] the land issue, the planning issue. I believe that if there are no land
[00:10:37] banks, the problem will not be solved, eh. We thank you very much, Carla, for
[00:10:40] being with us this afternoon. We know that you have another commitment, so we
[00:10:44] thank you very much for being with us, Carla Escofier, lawyer and master in human rights and
[00:10:48] democratization from the Externado
[00:11:08] The need to migrate knows no age. Many
[00:11:12] say they want to reach Mexico City, but others seek
[00:11:15] to go further
[00:11:16] north.
[00:11:20] The Mexican army's anti-drone battalion consists of
[00:11:23] these types of elements: jammers to bring down drones
[00:11:27] that have become a threat. Chiapas
[00:11:30] authorities have detected a cattle smuggling
[00:11:33] point. This is one of the illegal crossing
[00:11:37] points for cattle going from Central America to
[00:11:40] Mexico. Thousands of protesters, workers from this
[00:11:43] country, left from the
[00:11:47] AM. I am in the municipality of Teuchitlán, in the
[00:11:51] Mexican state of Jalisco. Here the discovery
[00:11:54] was. gruesome by collectives of people searching
[00:11:57] for missing persons. What made you come here with the suspicion
[00:12:01] that your son might be on this
[00:12:03] ranch?
[00:12:11] there are not many places in the world that have
[00:12:14] the quality, the stability, and the size of opportunity that Latin America has in
[00:12:18] terms of duplicating a business, of quintupling or multiplying by
[00:12:21] 10. Many people talk about Latin America as if Latin America were a country or...
[00:12:25] a region, and in reality, Latin America is the combination of many, many countries, more than
[00:12:28] 20, that have different cultures, different rules of the game,
[00:12:32] different infrastructure, a financial service that operates with other rules, so the
[00:12:35] ability to understand it, adapt it, deal with that volatility, I think
[00:12:39] is a unique asset that the free
[00:12:41] market has.
[00:12:45] And the playbook for a CEO who wants to look at Latin America has to be
[00:12:51] Latin America you have to have flexibility, adaptability, look long
[00:12:55] term and think about what is right for users in 10
[00:12:58] years, above all you have to know how to take risks and adapt to changing contexts.
[00:13:37] Forum with Senate candidate James Talarico, a face-to-face meeting with
[00:13:41] voters, unfiltered, unedited. Can the Democratic candidate
[00:13:44] win in a Republican state? CNN
[00:13:47] and Jubil forum with James Tallarico, Wednesday on
[00:13:50] CNN.
[00:15:02] I'm Andy Ortiz in Lima, Peru, we are
[00:15:04] CNN.
[00:15:10] We continue in México Opina, even talking about the many
[00:15:14] problems, talking about Spain where all these protests
[00:15:17] have occurred in recent weeks due to the case of Mari Carmen, there is a booming
[00:15:21] real estate market in Spain, in Madrid particularly.
[00:15:25] Many of these capitals belong to those who can no longer access the United States due to immigration
[00:15:28] policies, I mean, you can
[00:15:31] imagine the number of permutations that have to be made to
[00:15:35] get to that point. That is to say, there are many Latin American capitals
[00:15:38] that used to go to buy in Houston, Florida or anywhere
[00:15:41] else, now have certain migratory difficulties in
[00:15:45] the United States, so they have chosen other destinations to occupy
[00:15:49] those speculative capitals. Madrid has
[00:15:53] opened its doors to that, there we see another part of the problem, that
[00:15:56] is to say, everything leads to the same problem that
[00:15:59] we are seeing. But returning to the topic,
[00:16:03] this is very multi-factorial. The state must therefore and...
[00:16:07] intervene from my point of view, seeking a
[00:16:10] balance, exactly, from my point of view, yes, I think
[00:16:14] it was mentioned previously, right? There are some countries that
[00:16:18] we look to as if they had, eh, not everything
[00:16:22] resolved. One is the city of Vienna, another is
[00:16:26] Singapore, eh, it is very difficult to
[00:16:29] imagine reaching these situations, but what did they do
[00:16:33] in these places? On the one hand, in the case of Singapore,
[00:16:37] who has a lot of
[00:16:40] public land, precisely that idea that land
[00:16:44] should not be privatized, it must be guaranteed for the
[00:16:47] benefit of the majorities, this has guaranteed that land
[00:16:50] prices remain controlled. In the case of Vienna, something
[00:16:54] partially similar happens, obviously it is a city eh
[00:16:57] much, much smaller than Mexico City, eh,
[00:17:01] but it has most of the housing in public
[00:17:04] rent, its
[00:17:08] housing is not speculative, but the satisfaction of a right. The
[00:17:12] vast majority, 80- 90% of the
[00:17:15] population of any social class accesses
[00:17:18] housing through this formula, which is absolutely
[00:17:22] unthinkable in other countries, indeed.
[00:17:25] But that tells us that these cities do not
[00:17:29] have crises at this moment, there are others that do, as
[00:17:32] Carla also said, reduced, even
[00:17:36] France, I would say that... a European country eh very
[00:17:39] close to Spain, but it has had policies in the years of
[00:17:42] greater defense eh of social housing
[00:17:46] has proposed and has not eh modified
[00:17:50] the older legislations, let's say, regarding, for example, the
[00:17:53] automatization of contracts, the idea
[00:17:57] of a lease that
[00:18:00] France has that can last several years and that is automatically
[00:18:03] renewed, this is a debate that is happening in
[00:18:07] Spain today, why don't we go back, we don't have this type of
[00:18:10] contracts, here we have annual contracts that
[00:18:14] obviously speak of a situation for tenants
[00:18:17] and female tenants that is very complicated, because every year
[00:18:20] it could be, it doesn't happen obviously
[00:18:23] always that they have to change housing
[00:18:26] and it happens to us to interview young people who in recent years have changed
[00:18:30] four times, but then facing that, what do I mean? That the state
[00:18:34] does have to intervene from our point of view. With many measures,
[00:18:38] building more housing is not necessarily ownership housing,
[00:18:42] because at the moment when I make a public effort to
[00:18:46] build housing, I give it to you, who immediately, after two or
[00:18:49] three years, for some reason, decide to put it back on the
[00:18:53] market, well, that's not really helping to keep prices
[00:18:57] low, because all of us are very used to, and there are no
[00:19:01] safeguards, trying to get the most out of housing. So
[00:19:04] I think it would be more convenient also to have
[00:19:08] housing that remains in the hands of the
[00:19:11] state with public rent, a rent with all
[00:19:14] the administration and management problems. In Mexico it doesn't exist, but this administration
[00:19:18] is starting to propose public housing for
[00:19:21] rent for young people, for example. So we
[00:19:23] therefore need more housing,
[00:19:27] more housing options,
[00:19:29] more ways to effectively access
[00:19:32] diversification of the model, not only ownership but also
[00:19:36] rental, but why not cooperatives? that sometimes function
[00:19:39] as a kind of island against the
[00:19:42] speculative city, because there is a collective, a bit like in the
[00:19:46] ejidos, that has to decide before
[00:19:48] selling a whole good, a cooperative
[00:19:52] land, this has led to
[00:19:54] interesting results in cities like Montevideo, which is
[00:19:58] the Latin American capital of housing cooperatives since the 60s.
[00:20:02] What happens is that in Latin America, well, especially in Mexico, we were
[00:20:06] taught from always. all our lives, generations ago, new
[00:20:09] generations, I think, are thinking differently, but that you have to own property, otherwise you are lost, and
[00:20:13] you have to do everything possible to fight for a property, that's your heritage.
[00:20:17] Indeed, years of effort
[00:20:20] and work are invested in a heritage, changing that mindset is
[00:20:24] quite complicated, right? The new congregations, I think, don't even want to buy anything anymore,
[00:20:27] they don't want to kill themselves for a for a for a what do you call it, for
[00:20:30] 15 years. Or they can't. In Mexico, we are
[00:20:34] used to staying in one place. for
[00:20:37] generations, the grandfather, the father, the
[00:20:40] son, not just in one house, no, but in the place, in the
[00:20:44] neighborhood, we are, we become attached
[00:20:47] from here, the more attached
[00:20:50] a community is, hence the importance of being part
[00:20:53] of the band at a given moment, the more you take care of your
[00:20:57] city, the more you
[00:21:00] make it your own, and the case is that this defense, this
[00:21:04] rootedness, is a counterpoint to the phenomenon of
[00:21:07] touristification, of the arrival of nomads, etcetera,
[00:21:11] etcetera. Now, let me also, I don't know, I'm already rambling
[00:21:15] a lot in this part, but... another
[00:21:19] situation comes into
[00:21:21] debate, how much does it mean that
[00:21:25] new services start to appear in your
[00:21:28] neighborhood, better equipment,
[00:21:31] that your neighborhood gets an upgrade in terms of
[00:21:34] services, not in terms of real estate pressure,
[00:21:38] but that neighborhoods that have been
[00:21:41] neglected for decades suddenly get an
[00:21:44] injection of improvement at a level eh not
[00:21:47] only of urban
[00:21:50] services, but of new capital
[00:21:54] entering, new businesses without displacing the
[00:21:58] ones that are already there, because that's another thing, not only is there a displacement of residents, there
[00:22:02] is a displacement of traditional businesses, we are
[00:22:05] seeing that, so at what cost does someone have the
[00:22:09] right to improve their neighborhood, that's
[00:22:12] the great dilemma, but don't displace me because of that, I who have lived
[00:22:16] for so many decades, my family in a neighborhood that has not been well...
[00:22:54] And I know it's difficult, but how do we reach a
[00:22:56] balance, eh, in which we don't lose sight of
[00:23:00] this that we had all over the place when we started to
[00:23:04] prepare this talk, which is the objective, the common
[00:23:07] good, that we all benefit, not just a
[00:23:10] few, it should not be a business,
[00:23:14] because as a business, other things can be invented,
[00:23:17] but something so delicate and with... so much technological advancement like artificial
[00:23:21] intelligence must have a
[00:23:25] basic condition, which is that it serves a
[00:23:29] majority of human
[00:25:16] beings. The need to migrate knows no age. Many
[00:25:20] say they want to reach Mexico City, but others seek
[00:25:23] to go further
[00:25:24] north.
[00:25:28] The Mexican army's anti-drone battalion consists of
[00:25:31] these types of elements, jammers to bring down drones
[00:25:35] that have become a threat. Chiapas
[00:25:38] authorities have detected a cattle smuggling
[00:25:41] point. This is one of the illegal crossing
[00:25:45] points for cattle going from Central America to
[00:25:48] Mexico. Thousands of demonstrators, workers from this
[00:25:52] country, left from the Angel of Independence at 9:30
[00:25:55] AM. I am in the municipality of
[00:25:58] Teuchitlán, in the Mexican state of Jalisco. Here
[00:26:01] the discovery was. it was macabre by collectives of people
[00:26:05] searching for disappeared persons. What made
[00:26:07] you come here with the suspicion that your son might be on this
[00:26:11] ranch?
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[00:26:48] We are reaching the end of this edition of México Opina, we will continue addressing it because each
[00:26:52] one gives material, each of the problems, of the aspects of the housing issue
[00:26:56] is enough for a whole program, but we wanted a reflection before
[00:27:00] saying goodbye, Silvia, I think we have to... we have to go back
[00:27:03] to the human side of this whole situation, it seems to me that in
[00:27:07] Spain, of course, everything has been concentrated, perhaps in recent
[00:27:11] days and weeks around eh the
[00:27:13] eviction of Mrs. Mary Carmen, who actually
[00:27:16] passed away two days ago, she is not the first person
[00:27:20] unfortunately who passes away after an
[00:27:24] eviction, the impacts of evictions are psychologically
[00:27:27] and in terms of health very
[00:27:31] impacting, in her case. She was 71 years old, from what I have
[00:27:35] read, she lived in that same building, she wanted to die there and
[00:27:38] after the eviction she died in a Spanish hospital
[00:27:42] eh in the capital, I think we have to look at that
[00:27:46] human part when we look at the right to housing, we cannot
[00:27:49] lose sight of it because our cities are emptying
[00:27:53] out, they are losing their soul,
[00:27:56] they are changing in colors, in smells, in
[00:27:59] culture, not either is it about... being in
[00:28:03] permanent defense of nothing changing, but
[00:28:06] surely the fact that we build cities only
[00:28:09] for the market, only for the consumption of a few, is
[00:28:13] really a problem that must be
[00:28:16] faced from the point of view of the human
[00:28:19] side of all this, right? What will happen to all these people
[00:28:23] who no longer find a place? Will their lives be adequate, will
[00:28:26] their lives be dignified? Well, I also want to share this reflection about the
[00:28:30] responsibility that Silvia mentioned. All of us have this
[00:28:33] responsibility of caring
[00:28:36] for
[00:28:39] towards factors that may not directly affect
[00:28:42] me but can be
[00:28:45] extraordinarily a affected population
[00:28:49] like let's say
[00:28:52] a an, how do you call it when you throw
[00:28:56] a stone and the wave moves, right?
[00:28:59] There is something that is causing a crisis. Maybe it doesn't
[00:29:02] affect me, it's not affecting me at the moment, at
[00:29:06] first, but we have to
[00:29:09] make people aware that they are really being
[00:29:12] affected by displacement, by housing backwardness, by lack of
[00:29:16] housing, and that is an interest that we now have as
[00:29:19] a responsibility, I take up the word again, in the field
[00:29:22] of, for example, training, we are currently having these generations that
[00:29:26] are being hit very hard, but they also have the privilege of the
[00:29:30] opportunity to make them aware, and I think that's what
[00:29:33] I was getting at from the beginning of my idea,
[00:29:37] it was the awareness
[00:29:40] towards the vulnerability of the one next to you,
[00:29:44] and to train young people who, for example, in my
[00:29:47] case, future architects, urban planners,
[00:29:50] real estate developers, that
[00:29:52] the important thing is not the business, that the
[00:29:56] important thing is how your decision
[00:29:59] is impacting towards...
[00:30:02] impacts the systemic, social sphere,
[00:30:05] how it impacts the neighbor, how this decision that you are
[00:30:09] making so that the numbers work out in your real
[00:30:12] estate business, for example, is causing a
[00:30:15] wave from, it's unbalancing the best a
[00:30:19] market, it's a very complex, very
[00:30:22] systemic issue, but we have something where
[00:30:26] we can change the variable so that something starts
[00:30:29] to return, it gives me hope the first side.
[00:30:32] I'm giving myself hope, I'll be very attentive to what will happen with the
[00:30:36] measures that
[00:30:39] will