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[00:00:00] contrary to our representative, are
[00:00:04] you trying to build a narrative, a narrative line that once
[00:00:08] condemns someone who is still in process, José Julio.
[00:00:12] Fernando, the fight against money laundering is
[00:00:15] not political persecution, it is
[00:00:18] to end the impunity that Correísmo left
[00:00:21] entrenched in this country more than
[00:00:25] 15 years ago, President Noboa was chosen
[00:00:28] to give security to the country and to improve the quality of life
[00:00:32] of Ecuadorians with education and job
[00:00:36] opportunities, and his cabinet works day and night, for
[00:00:39] what? To fulfill the president's promise, but you didn't
[00:00:48] opinion where Luisa González is already guilty.
[00:00:51] Fernando, I've seen you since I was 15 years old giving
[00:00:54] news, I know the way you
[00:01:03] of public administration is to
[00:01:07] inform Ecuadorians about the progress we have made in the
[00:01:10] fight against corruption, in
[00:01:21] organized crime was providing school
[00:01:25] meals. You say, "Oh, you tell me you're not going to
[00:01:28] fall for it." What are you going to fall for? Answering a
[00:01:31] question, yes, what are you going to fall for? Answering a
[00:01:34] question? I am
[00:01:47] government seeks to build a narrative against the
[00:01:51] opposition where they are sentenced or lynched by the media, I am
[00:01:55] asking you something that people also want to know, it is your
[00:01:58] obligation as a function of the government to also answer those
[00:02:02] doubts, so it's not that you fall for anything, it's that you answer a
[00:02:06] frank, direct and clear question, Julio, everything I'm
[00:02:09] asking, Fernando, I don't dedicate myself to the
[00:02:13] communication narrative, I am a
[00:02:15] technical professional with 17
[00:02:19] laundering, what I can tell you is
[00:02:22] that I have been serving Ecuadorians for 2 years and
[00:02:25] 10 months in the government of President
[00:02:28] Noboa. We continue to fight against
[00:02:32] money laundering and combat
[00:02:46] deny it, meaning that the accusations or denunciations made today
[00:02:49] cannot be clarified, at least with José Julio Neira's
[00:02:53] answer. I am not the one making them, that is what they
[00:02:57] accuse, and I thought that someone who publishes
[00:03:01] a video has knowledge of communication, because
[00:03:04] otherwise you wouldn't be making
[00:03:13] communication skills because you make explanatory videos, so you can
[00:03:16] tell me if it's with one intention or another, I ask
[00:03:20] you to give you the opportunity to deny what
[00:03:24] Correísmo accuses.
[00:03:27] Fernando, what makes me sad is that something that could have been
[00:03:31] technical to
[00:03:33] society, what support the pattern of organized crime that
[00:03:36] Correísmo uses
[00:03:39] to launder
[00:03:47] president receives threats every
[00:03:50] day for the fight to return security to
[00:03:52] them.
[00:03:55] You know who that interview is with? That interview is
[00:04:05] No, the prosecutor's office carries out the investigation of the case and the
[00:04:09] substantiation before the judge.
[00:04:12] Well, the prosecutor's office determines if the evidence is valid and presents it
[00:04:16] to the judge. I am explaining
[00:04:18] it technically to you.
[00:04:21] Yes, yes, it is not a point of view, it is a technical
[00:04:24] substantiation of money
[00:04:28] assured that he would not leave the country, that's what he laundering
[00:04:30] country, left from 9:30 behavior patterns. And that is what we explained in that
[00:04:32] video.
[00:04:35] It's fine, I respect your point of view and I also respect that you don't want to
[00:04:38] answer, whether it's already done. The
[00:04:41] question is asked, José Julio Neira's position is stated, the
[00:04:45] justification with articles for the actions
[00:04:48] taken is also heard. It was what had
[00:04:52] to be done and you have
[00:05:00] laundering and
[00:05:03] you are trying to position the money laundering
[00:05:06] narrative. Well, you are trying to
[00:05:09] position the political persecution narrative and I am
[00:05:13] explaining to you that this is a fight against money laundering and I am
[00:05:17] giving you examples from 2007, not to
[00:05:20] position anything, Julio, I am questioning
[00:05:24] you about, I am not trying to position anything, I am questioning you about
[00:05:28] the complaints about the way you have handled
[00:05:31] the Luisa González case communicationally, so let's
[00:05:34] leave it there. I understand from this conversation is that
[00:05:38] you prefer that the government turn a blind eye to the money laundering of
[00:05:42] Correísmo, that's what you're trying to say, I prefer
[00:05:46] that the prosecutor's office, you know what I prefer, José Julio, that the
[00:05:49] prosecutor's office be the one to inform, the one to investigate,
[00:05:53] the one to conduct its investigations and the one to determine
[00:05:56] responsibilities against whoever it may be, if they are guilty, they are
[00:06:00] guilty, but it is the public ministry of the prosecutor's office that has to
[00:06:03] determine, I don't think
[00:06:06] it supported its investigation, the judges
[00:06:10] make the decision, the executive. The
[00:06:13] responsibility is to inform Ecuadorians about money
[00:06:16] laundering alerts, the
[00:06:19] red flags of unusual behavior that
[00:06:23] keeps repeating itself, not
[00:06:26] necessarily. I've been doing it
[00:06:32] verified, because until now, innocence must be presumed.
[00:06:36] The fight against money laundering is a
[00:06:39] fight from day 1 of President Noboa.
[00:06:42] I was made anti-corruption secretary on January 7,
[00:06:46] 2024, and since February 2024,
[00:06:50] I have been publicly denouncing
[00:06:53] all the complaints that have been made on behalf of all
[00:06:57] Ecuadorians who seek a better country,
[00:07:00] including ATM, including Progen,
[00:07:04] including Apagón, including all the cases you
[00:07:07] want to mention. Interrupt for a moment, yes,
[00:07:10] listen to me for a moment, I know, José Julio, I know you
[00:07:14] have a trip or something, so that's why we had
[00:07:18] only set aside half of the program, but this
[00:07:21] has been extended, I ask you if you can and want to stay the
[00:07:34] you have any other questions to close the interview that is not
[00:07:38] the story you mentioned to me
[00:07:41] 14 times in the last 20 minutes, I would gladly stay.
[00:07:45] I think your viewers deserve a technical
[00:07:48] interview, not a communicative narrative,
[00:07:52] besides you and other communicative experts, nobody
[00:08:01] if I ask 14 times and you don't answer me, if I have to ask 15,
[00:08:04] I will. So since I asked you 14 times, you didn't answer me, so we'll
[00:08:08] leave it there. I will do the technical interview with the corresponding
[00:08:11] authorities. In this case, the public ministry and the prosecutor's office, not with you,
[00:08:15] José, because besides in any case,
[00:08:18] in any case, I wouldn't have to do it with you either, I would have to do it with whoever is at the
[00:08:22] head of the financial investigation unit. Thank you, José
[00:08:25] Julio, good night, the fight against money laundering is a fight that
[00:08:51] Flavio Bolsonaro, who on Sunday was a presidential candidate and today
[00:08:54] is a fugitive from justice, I'll
[00:08:56] be right back.
[00:11:04] sea, the ocean is the sustenance of our
[00:11:06] life, truly the oceans
[00:11:10] generate more oxygen many times than the forests themselves,
[00:11:13] the important thing here in the Amazon is the
[00:11:16] water.
[00:11:20] These trees will harvest water, generating
[00:11:23] new rivers, generating, sending
[00:11:26] lakes. This responsibility to take care of this simple
[00:11:29] home is
[00:11:31] everyone's.
[00:11:34] We live on a very beautiful planet, we have to
[00:11:36] keep it alive, from any angle of
[00:11:40] society, everyone has a voice to give and something to contribute,
[00:11:44] no, and we are all capable of taking small actions, we can
[00:11:48] no longer keep talking, talking, talking, it is time to
[00:11:51] act, put on your superhero suit
[00:11:54] and start doing something today.
[00:12:09] The fight on this occasion consists of the administration
[00:12:12] wanting a sharp cut in interest
[00:12:16] rates to boost the economy, but
[00:12:20] the Fed, which has price stability as one of its two
[00:12:24] mandates, that is, to defend us from
[00:12:26] inflation, believes that if it does that, if it makes a
[00:12:30] sharp cut, it would trigger inflation,
[00:12:34] and a scenario with problems of growth and at the same time
[00:12:37] inflation, that is, what is called
[00:12:39] stagflation, that is precisely what the
[00:12:43] Fed of Powell, of Geron
[00:12:46] Powell, wants to
[00:12:47] avoid.
[00:14:19] age. Many claim they want to reach
[00:14:23] Mexico City, but others seek to reach further
[00:14:26] north.
[00:14:29] The Mexican army's anti-drone battalion consists of
[00:14:33] these types of elements, jammers to bring down drones
[00:14:36] that have become a threat. The
[00:14:39] Chiapas authorities have detected a point of cattle
[00:14:43] smuggling. This is one of the illegal
[00:14:46] crossing points for cattle going from Central America to
[00:14:50] Mexico. Thousands of protesters, workers from this
[00:14:55] in the morning from the Angel de la Independencia. I am in the
[00:14:59] municipality of Teuchitlán in the Mexican state of Jalisco,
[00:15:02] here the discovery was macabre by
[00:15:05] groups of people searching for disappeared people. What
[00:15:09] made you come here with the suspicion that your son might be on this ranch?
[00:15:25] From this moment on, join me using the hashtag #conclubolsonaro, the hashtag is
[00:15:29] #conclubolsonaro, your comments on my X account @soyfdelrincon with
[00:15:32] that hashtag #conclubolsonaro, he was the
[00:15:35] candidate for the presidency of Brazil. On Sunday, Flavio
[00:15:38] Bolsonaro escaped, arriving in the United States
[00:15:41] after the police told him he was forbidden to leave the country and asked him
[00:15:45] to hand over his passports.
[00:15:47] He arrived with the backing of none other than President Donald
[00:15:51] Trump. This was told to CNN by an advisor to President Donald
[00:15:55] Trump, and Carolina Peguero is at Fort Lauderdale Airport with
[00:15:58] the latest news, it's not very clear yet, Carolina, where
[00:16:02] he arrived, how he arrived, well, we know he arrived by plane but... was it a
[00:16:05] private plane, no it wasn't, I don't know, it's not clear, there's a lot of mystery around it,
[00:16:09] Carolina.
[00:16:11] Of course, a lot of
[00:16:15] mystery, we still don't know exactly the whereabouts of
[00:16:19] Flavio Bolsonaro, we have been here since 4 pm
[00:16:22] EST, trying to get information at
[00:16:26] this airport where several private
[00:16:30] executive planes arrive, we have seen many arrive, few
[00:16:33] leave, but of course at the beginning
[00:16:36] several reports were known that Bolsonaro had already
[00:16:39] left his country after having
[00:16:42] spoken out on social media
[00:16:46] denouncing the election results, the
[00:16:49] presidential results, in which he was a presidential
[00:16:53] candidate, obviously he was
[00:16:56] defeated by the current president Luiz Inácio Lula da
[00:16:59] Silva, and that he was going to collaborate with the
[00:17:02] authorities, that he was going to hand over his passports, and hours later it was announced
[00:17:06] that he had possibly gone to Argentina and that he was then
[00:17:10] rejected by the Argentine authorities there
[00:17:13] when trying to ask for some type of political asylum, and hours
[00:17:17] later, that is, this afternoon, information arrived
[00:17:20] that he could be here in the United States,
[00:17:23] specifically in Florida, where he could
[00:17:26] also have received some type of
[00:17:29] support or help from President
[00:17:33] Donald Trump and the federal government, they
[00:17:36] confirmed from the White House, those officials
[00:17:40] and high-ranking officials, that yes, indeed, President Trump
[00:17:43] would be giving some type of relief, political
[00:17:47] asylum, and visas to both Bolsonaro and his
[00:17:50] wife and daughters. It should be noted that Bolsonaro
[00:17:54] faces several charges and accusations of corruption and money
[00:17:58] laundering, while here we know that he
[00:18:02] has relatives both here in Florida and
[00:18:05] in Texas. So far we have been...
[00:18:07] here at this airport known as Fort Lauderdale
[00:18:11] Executive Airport, which is half an hour from Miami
[00:18:14] city, but at this time it is not known
[00:18:17] exactly where Bolsonaro is, everyone is
[00:18:21] after Bolsonaro,
[00:18:23] Fernando.
[00:18:25] That's right, everyone is after the whereabouts of Flavio Bolsonaro
[00:18:29] and also the route he used to
[00:18:32] leave, because there are also rumors and confusion, nothing
[00:18:36] has been clarified about whether he did it again. from Argentina or if he did it directly, in
[00:18:39] short, I think over time
[00:18:55] Thank you to Carolina Peguero from the Fort Lauderdale airport with the latest
[00:18:58] on this that is not clear, we know he is in the United States,
[00:19:02] yes, how he arrived, what time he arrived, where, how
[00:19:05] he arrived, uh, where he left from.
[00:19:07] No, we don't know, no, it's this mysterious departure of Flavio Bolsonaro from
[00:19:11] Brazil, but it comes at a delicate moment for the
[00:19:14] senator, senator, yes, after his defeat in the second round
[00:19:18] of elections against President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, who by the way,
[00:19:22] is celebrating his birthday, Lula da Silva referred to that precisely,
[00:19:25] precisely in a celebration of his 81st birthday,
[00:19:29] listen, I'm finding out
[00:19:32] now that my opponent
[00:19:36] was not ugly.
[00:19:39] "There is no, there is no accurate
[00:19:41] information, see, I lost
[00:19:45] the election to Collor, I stayed in Brazil, I
[00:19:48] regret, I regret that he left
[00:19:51] Brazil, because he could have stayed here
[00:19:55] and proven that the one who wears the uniform was not a
[00:19:58] true one.
[00:20:01] Bolsonaro, forgive me, had
[00:20:05] said after indicating on Monday that... the police asked for his passports
[00:20:09] and told him he was forbidden to leave the country, he even said that the measure
[00:20:13] was a tactic of intimidation, listen, I never thought
[00:20:17] of leaving the country, I will hand over my passports and I will
[00:20:20] defend myself from this aberration that is a clear attempt at
[00:20:23] intimidation.
[00:20:27] The truth is that Flavio's brother Eduardo Bolsonaro had already
[00:20:30] anticipated it, that's what he said before the election results were known,
[00:20:34] pay attention. and I do assume that if my brother does not
[00:20:37] win, I'm in favor that
[00:20:41] he would leave the country, yeah, for sure, for
[00:20:44] sure.
[00:20:47] Bolsonaro is under investigation for alleged crimes of corruption, money
[00:20:51] laundering and currency evasion. Among the lines
[00:20:54] investigated were possible links with
[00:20:57] illegal gambling platforms and the financing of a
[00:21:01] film or documentary about his father. The senator
[00:21:04] denies any wrongdoing, he has said it several times, for now,
[00:21:08] there was no arrest warrant against him at the time of his
[00:21:11] departure, but legal analysts cited by CNN point out that
[00:21:14] disobeying the court order regarding his passports and not leaving the
[00:21:18] country, well, it could lead to an arrest warrant, the truth is that
[00:21:22] he fled, he is a fugitive from justice in his country, the great
[00:21:26] unknown now is the scope of the new judicial and political front in
[00:21:30] Brazil over this issue, precisely when the country is trying to enter a
[00:21:33] new stage after the elections, well now they face
[00:21:36] this scenario that also becomes complicated on the international
[00:21:40] level because it becomes a bilateral conflict
[00:21:43] so far between the United States and
[00:21:57] In regional aviation, our aircraft today have a
[00:22:01] market share of almost 90%,
[00:22:04] we transport almost 100 million
[00:22:07] passengers per year
[00:22:09] in
[00:22:12] Embraer, simplifying complexity, companies are very complicated and complexity is
[00:22:16] the enemy of execution.
[00:22:59] Yes, yes, it's clear, and it's very good that you're coming back, you said
[00:23:03] it at the beginning of the program, saying, well, assuming
[00:23:05] that this transition happens because there
[00:23:09] are a number of questions you've explained very well, so
[00:23:12] that's the first thing, saying, well, maybe this is not
[00:23:16] as immediate as we think. Second, the point of
[00:23:20] transparency, of maintaining transparency, which
[00:23:22] well, brought us Bernaka, who has been tremendously a
[00:23:26] positive asset and a great asset to the institution, and
[00:23:29] then fundamentally the
[00:23:33] structure of a strong
[00:23:37] Fed. That complexity that it has right
[00:23:41] now regionally is a strength, it's a
[00:23:44] strength.
[00:24:33] On the eve of a decisive election day, learn in depth about the contests
[00:24:36] that could change the balance of power in the United States.
[00:24:40] Special edition, midterm elections 2026.
[00:24:44] Countdown, Sunday on
[00:24:46] CNN. The essence of being a journalist is to get to
[00:24:50] the point where the news originates and follow it, go out into the
[00:24:53] street, wear out your shoes, question those involved with uncomfortable,
[00:24:57] frontal and
[00:24:58] direct questions.
[00:25:03] I'm Elizabeth Pérez in Miami, we are
[00:25:06] CNN.
[00:26:22] The need to migrate knows no age, many
[00:26:26] claim they want to reach Mexico City, but others seek
[00:26:29] to reach further north.
[00:26:34] The Mexican army's anti-drone battalion consists of
[00:26:37] these types of elements, jammers to bring down drones
[00:26:41] that have become a threat. The
[00:26:44] Chiapas authorities have detected a point of cattle
[00:26:47] smuggling. This is one of the illegal
[00:26:51] crossing points for cattle going from Central America to
[00:26:54] Mexico. Thousands of protesters, workers from this
[00:26:57] country, left from 9:30 in the morning from the
[00:27:01] Angel de la Independencia. I am in the municipality of
[00:27:04] Teuchitlán in the Mexican state of Jalisco, here
[00:27:07] the discovery was macabre by groups of people searching for
[00:27:11] disappeared people. What
[00:27:13] made you come here with the suspicion that your son might be on this ranch?
[00:27:30] And I know it's difficult, but how do we reach a
[00:27:32] balance in which we don't lose sight of
[00:27:36] this that we had all over the place when we started
[00:27:40] preparing this talk, which is the common
[00:27:43] goal, that we all benefit, not just a
[00:27:46] few, it should not be a business,
[00:27:50] because as a business, well, other things can be invented there.
[00:27:53] but something so delicate and with so much technological advancement as
[00:27:57] artificial intelligence must have a
[00:28:01] conditioning of... uh that is that it serves a
[00:28:05] majority of humans,
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