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[00:00:00] angles to bring you directly the facts, pro-immigrant groups
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[00:00:07] I'm Juan Carlos López, join me live
[00:00:11] on USA from Monday to Friday on CNN.
[00:00:14] I'm Mexican-British,
[00:00:18] I've been practicing journalism in Mexico
[00:00:22] City for 20 years, what about getting to the bottom of the
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[00:00:43] was going to
[00:01:30] Why is that? President Trump on Thursday, when
[00:01:34] he returned from a short trip to South Carolina, he was asked if he had
[00:01:38] suspended campaign events over the weekend due to fatigue or health,
[00:01:42] and he ended up insulting the journalist who asked
[00:01:45] the question. Welcome to this edition of Clash of Opinions, the last one before
[00:01:49] the November 3rd midterm elections in the United States, that's the topic for the next
[00:01:53] hour. I'm going to introduce our guests. For that, here
[00:01:56] in Washington we are joined by María Teresa Cardona, a Democratic strategist, and
[00:02:00] Art Stopiñan, a conservative strategist.
[00:02:03] Also from Virginia, we have Rocío Vélez, and
[00:02:08] Senate, in joining us from Bogotá, Tatiana Dangón. During
[00:02:10] these 60 minutes of the program, we will be talking about what
[00:02:14] is left for the final stretch, what's coming next
[00:02:18] Tuesday. I'm going to start with Rocío Vélez in Virginia.
[00:02:21] Rocío, the expectation is that there will be greater participation, the
[00:02:25] polls continue to favor Democrats and they favor them in contests
[00:02:28] where, until a few weeks ago, their
[00:02:32] moment the Republican option was not seen. Some speak of a Democratic
[00:02:35] society, sweep. How do you see the scenario?
[00:02:38] Senate, in Well, we have to be a little cautious with this talk of sweeps,
[00:02:42] because we've heard it before. Polls usually don't
[00:02:46] tend to reflect how the
[00:02:49] Republican vote almost always comes out, right, on election
[00:02:53] day. Uh, yes, I'm
[00:02:56] a bit, right, in the past few days everyone was talking...
[00:03:00] about how the atmosphere was and the tense and somewhat
[00:03:03] nebulous atmosphere, and trying not
[00:03:08] Senate, in to be optimistic, and I think that in reality there could be any kind of surprise, right, as
[00:03:12] always in these next days, what's left are several
[00:03:16] days and that turnout, right, that
[00:03:19] getting out to vote is very
[00:03:21] Democratic socialist, important. In part, I think that the Republican vote, which is
[00:03:25] mostly ages
[00:03:27] country, left at 9:30 AM from the Angel of Independence. 50+, uh, uh, if they come out that day and as it
[00:03:31] is more or less reflected in the polls, also the vote of 18
[00:03:34] to 29-year-olds, right, young people, uh, is, I think,
[00:03:38] a little bit more inflated, it's reflected as 15% voting
[00:03:42] are, uh, what early voting, and I think it's more like 5 to 6%. If that
[00:03:46] holds, in any case,
[00:03:48] giving it so far what I think there will be some surprises, like the inverse. For
[00:03:50] example, it could be that Maine and Michigan, everyone projects them
[00:03:54] one way and they turn out another. Kansas and Iowa. Uh,
[00:03:58] I also think that the president will still appear in these
[00:04:02] places, uh, and I have to, I have to point out,
[00:04:05] everything with everything I can think of about Donald Trump, uh,
[00:04:09] I have to really highlight that he has been a president who has
[00:04:13] gone out to get his people, his
[00:04:16] comes, Lorenzo was followers, uh, and wow, the energy, because being until 1 AM at these rallies and
[00:04:19] these things, well, we'll see if then on Tuesday, November
[00:04:23] the most violent, uh, and what 3rd, all that paid off. Uh,
[00:04:26] Tatiana, something catches my attention. The president has had a very
[00:04:30] intense tour, he travels, returns to the White House during the day, this
[00:04:34] Friday, he travels and stays for the weekend in
[00:04:37] Mar-a-Lago, uh, but he is going to states he won easily in
[00:04:41] the last election to seek
[00:04:44] support. What how do you read that strategy at this moment and how do you see the
[00:04:47] scenario for Tuesday?
[00:04:49] Of course, Trump is really realizing that these elections are a
[00:04:53] referendum on his government.
[00:04:56] Uh, really, what we have here is that
[00:05:00] it's a government with very low approval,
[00:05:03] much lower than other US presidents have had
[00:05:06] before midterm elections.
[00:05:10] We'll see that the only one who had such low
[00:05:14] popularity as president before the midterm elections was
[00:05:18] Harry Truman in 1946.
[00:05:21] And something very similar could have happened with Bush in the 2006
[00:05:25] elections. But what we see is that Trump is trying
[00:05:28] to show himself as a figure who is taking a lot of action within
[00:05:32] these elections, but that the decisions he has made,
[00:05:36] even those that sought to favor the Republican party's vote, have had
[00:05:40] no impact, at least that's what can be seen in the polls.
[00:05:43] Decisions such as comparing himself to Putin
[00:05:47] against the very sanctions he signed, or
[00:05:49] announcements like the one he made at the rally in Texas where he
[00:05:53] announced that Venezuela
[00:05:56] give a million barrels to the United
[00:05:59] States, which is also not true because it's not a gift,
[00:06:03] but all these announcements have not favored the Republican party because
[00:06:07] the central axis of this debate is the cost of living, and that
[00:06:10] cost of living, which is very high right now due to
[00:06:14] gasoline, due to rents, the market, etc., is
[00:06:18] being greatly affected by inflation, by tariffs and by other policies
[00:06:22] that the Trump administration has adopted. Only 29% of
[00:06:25] Americans approve of the handling of the
[00:06:28] cost of living under this administration, and I'll close with this: I agree
[00:06:32] with Rocío that in any case, polls
[00:06:36] tend not to be favorable for Republicans
[00:06:39] or for Trump. To underestimate them in a certain way, but the reality
[00:06:43] is that if you look at the history of polls, when it comes to midterm
[00:06:47] elections, they are much closer to reality than, for example,
[00:06:50] polls in presidential elections. So in
[00:06:54] any case, Democrats cannot be overconfident, Trump is making an
[00:06:57] effort, but it is an effort that seems not to really favor the results
[00:07:01] of these elections, and
[00:07:04] surely there will
[00:07:10] elections. President Trump has a particularity,
[00:07:14] which is that he says what he thinks,
[00:07:18] whether it's true or not. But in one of his speeches
[00:07:21] he said that his advisors had asked him not to mention it because it
[00:07:24] wasn't good for him, because people were upset about the cost of living, but that
[00:07:28] a lot of money was coming in from the sale of oil. This Friday it came out that oil
[00:07:31] companies have made additional profits of about
[00:07:35] 67 million dollars, and the companies themselves
[00:07:38] admit it. Uh, people are seeing it and feeling
[00:07:42] it. How do you see the
[00:07:45] Party arrives at these elections and how do you see the moment President
[00:07:48] Trump arrives?
[00:07:54] historical convention is that the party that
[00:07:57] is in power in the White House
[00:08:01] loses a majority in Congress.
[00:08:04] That has been the historical convention,
[00:08:07] but this year, uh, one
[00:08:10] feels here in the United States something different, partly
[00:08:13] due to the efforts of President Trump,
[00:08:16] uh, daily we see him, as you well mentioned, with
[00:08:20] all these rallies around the
[00:08:23] United States, and we see the motivation of the
[00:08:27] Republicans in the sense that they do not
[00:08:31] want to support the
[00:08:34] communist, Islamist agenda,
[00:08:37] uh, that is the main concern. If
[00:08:40] that agenda of the socialist Democrats
[00:08:43] were not there, well, I think that the Democrats would have
[00:08:47] easily taken a majority,
[00:08:50] perhaps they will take a majority in the House of
[00:08:53] Representatives, a majority of two to
[00:08:57] five seats, but that
[00:09:00] new, that new
[00:09:03] Democratic socialist agenda,
[00:09:07] uh, particularly, as Rocío said, people of the third
[00:09:10] age, those of the... from 50 onwards who are
[00:09:14] voting in much higher numbers than in other midterm
[00:09:18] elections, will inject a type
[00:09:21] of energy that has not
[00:09:25] been seen in the past, so no one really
[00:09:28] knows, many of the seats in the House of Congress are
[00:09:32] very close, but I think that that agenda of the
[00:09:35] Democrats will not favor the Democrats
[00:09:39] because the American people will reject that
[00:09:43] socialist agenda of the Democrats.
[00:09:52] the Democrats arrive at these elections?
[00:09:55] We arrive, I think,
[00:09:58] with a quite positive outlook.
[00:10:02] Now, I also say that we should be cautious because we won't
[00:10:05] know the result until Tuesday, but if you
[00:10:09] look at the polls, the polls are...
[00:10:12] uh, a story of trends. The trends
[00:10:15] so far are favoring and continue
[00:10:18] to favor the Democrats.
[00:10:21] In fact, uh, uh, uh, last week, uh,
[00:10:25] the Cook Political Report, which measures the
[00:10:29] seats depending on who
[00:10:32] is winning, who voters favor
[00:10:35] at that moment, and they put
[00:10:38] 12 seats favoring Democrats
[00:10:42] that historically favored Republicans.
[00:10:44] That has been the trend throughout
[00:10:48] this year of this election.
[00:10:52] Democrats have won,
[00:10:55] Republicans have lost, and I want to say
[00:10:59] something about President Trump's trips. I don't blame the White House for
[00:11:02] saying, "Oh, we can't put Trump
[00:11:06] in the states anymore," because Juan Carlos, every
[00:11:09] time Trump has visited these states
[00:11:13] in the last two weeks, the
[00:11:16] Democrat, the candidate, the Democratic
[00:11:20] candidate, has expanded
[00:11:22] his lead. In
[00:11:26] Michigan, Donald Trump went and Abdul El
[00:11:29] Sayed, according to our own CNN poll,
[00:11:33] now has a six-point lead. In
[00:11:37] Texas, Trump went,
[00:11:39] Italarico, a five-six-point
[00:11:43] lead. In South Carolina, who
[00:11:47] would have thought we were talking about a Senate
[00:11:50] seat in South Carolina, Trump
[00:11:53] visited and now they are tied
[00:11:56] in South Carolina. In Kansas, Trump
[00:12:00] went, and now the Democrat Adamilton has
[00:12:04] the advantage, so I hope Trump
[00:12:08] continues to visit all these states from today until
[00:12:11] Tuesday, because that has benefited us Democrats,
[00:12:15] and why? Because he says the same thing my
[00:12:19] friend Art said, that if the socialists, that if the
[00:12:22] communists, that's a lie, my people. And
[00:12:25] voters know it, and furthermore, it hurts the
[00:12:29] Republicans because they are not talking about solutions
[00:12:33] living, the war in
[00:12:36] Iran that no one wants, no one needed, to the
[00:12:40] tariffs that no one supports, to the
[00:12:42] cruel and massive deportations that our
[00:12:46] community hates, and why aren't they talking about that, Juan
[00:12:49] Carlos? Because they are not capable, because they don't have
[00:12:53] solutions, and that's why they...
[00:13:04] in the next block, in the next block we continue because I have to go to the break in this
[00:13:08] edition of Clash of Opinions prior to the midterm
[00:13:11] elections.
[00:13:15] The need to emigrate knows no age, many
[00:13:19] claim they want to reach Mexico City, but others seek
[00:13:22] to go further north.
[00:13:27] The Mexican army's anti-drone battalion consists of
[00:13:30] these types of elements of inhibitors to bring down drones
[00:13:34] that have become a threat. Authorities
[00:13:37] in Chiapas have detected a cattle smuggling
[00:13:40] point. This is one of the illegal crossing
[00:13:44] points for cattle going from Central America to
[00:13:47] Mexico. Thousands of demonstrators, workers of this
[00:13:52] I am in the municipality of
[00:13:55] Teuchitlán in the Mexican state of Jalisco, here
[00:13:58] the discovery was macabre by collectives of people
[00:14:02] searching for disappeared persons. What
[00:14:04] made you come here with the suspicion that your son could be on this
[00:14:08] ranch?
[00:14:10] To understand the world
[00:14:17] you need to seek the truth. Let's return to
[00:14:20] the era when we had to be much more human. That's
[00:14:23] why we follow the facts wherever they lead us, no
[00:14:27] matter how far we have to go, from the inside
[00:14:30] story, there are new statements from President Donald
[00:14:34] Trump, to an external perspective, we delve into
[00:14:37] the data, ready for what
[00:14:41] shot by an immigration agent, we face
[00:14:44] the world, is it legal for a 3-year-old to appear
[00:14:47] alone before a judge? Find joy in new perspectives
[00:14:51] and new horizons. Every day, no matter
[00:14:55] where life takes you,
[00:14:58] we follow what matters to you,
[00:15:01] we forge a path to truth and understanding of the world.
[00:15:05] I have something I really enjoy about this sport.
[00:16:42] Rocío highlighted it, Trump's energy, an 80-year-old
[00:16:45] man to travel across the United States, hold campaign events, do
[00:16:49] interviews, return to the White House, in the middle
[00:16:52] of this contest. And I'm going to start this segment with Maria. Maria,
[00:16:56] I remember that Biden paid the price for the fact
[00:17:00] that although the economic figures were positive, people didn't
[00:17:03] feel it, and one of the criticisms that was made to both the White House
[00:17:07] and the Democrats is that they didn't know how to talk to people. But Trump is now in the
[00:17:11] same situation, because one sees the economy grew 3.4%,
[00:17:15] more than anticipated, although inflation is high, the markets are behaving
[00:17:19] favorably, but people don't feel it and the government hasn't
[00:17:22] known how to talk to them. Is Trump now experiencing what Biden experienced?
[00:17:26] Exactly, Juan Carlos, and it seems that my friends
[00:17:29] in the Republican Party didn't learn from that
[00:17:33] lesson that happened to Biden, the Democrats did
[00:17:36] learn. Because what they are doing, the candidates across
[00:17:40] the country in the House of
[00:17:43] Representatives, in the the
[00:17:47] seats for the governorship and in the legislatures
[00:17:51] are talking exactly about the cost of living,
[00:17:55] uh, rent, uh,
[00:17:58] mortgage, the fact that Americans
[00:18:01] can no longer even if that lesson that happened to
[00:18:04] Biden, the Democrats did learn.
[00:18:07] Because what they are doing, the candidates across
[00:18:10] the country in the House of
[00:18:13] Representatives, in the the
[00:18:17] seats for the governorship and in the legislatures
[00:18:21] are talking exactly about the
[00:18:24] cost of living, uh, rent, uh,
[00:18:28] mortgage, the fact that Americans
[00:18:31] can no longer even if that lesson that happened to
[00:18:34] Biden, the Democrats did learn. Because what they are
[00:18:38] doing, the candidates across the country
[00:18:41] in the House of Representatives, in the
[00:18:46] the seats for the
[00:18:49] governorship and in the legislatures are talking
[00:18:52] exactly about the cost of living,
[00:18:55] uh, rent, in the
[00:18:58] mortgage, the fact that Americans
[00:19:01] can no longer even fill their own gas
[00:19:05] tanks because it's so expensive to go to work. Our
[00:19:08] community is talking about criminality and the brutality
[00:19:12] of ICE that is terrorizing our
[00:19:15] communities. Uh, Latino businesses
[00:19:20] is registering in the minds of voters, and that's why they are
[00:19:26] we see, uh, in the polls and also in the
[00:19:29] early voting that has been overwhelmingly
[00:19:32] high and with an advantage for the
[00:19:34] Democrats, that's why you're seeing it. Because Democrats
[00:19:38] are talking about those solutions and are
[00:19:41] highlighting the fact that the president and the
[00:19:44] Republican Party have betrayed the American
[00:19:48] people and the Latino voter specifically because they
[00:19:51] promised to lower the cost of living, lower
[00:19:55] inflation, uh, deport only criminals and
[00:20:01] they have done is exactly the opposite
[00:20:04] and they will pay at the polls. But I saw
[00:20:07] that you are saying that they are not entering into force, that they want to pass
[00:20:11] the bill to whoever they see as responsible for what they face when they go to
[00:20:14] fill up their gas tank, when they go to the market. Of course, here
[00:20:18] the reality is that there is a responsibility, it's not just a matter
[00:20:22] of perception about how the economy is doing and one reality is that the cost of
[00:20:26] living has gone up, it has gone up due to a tariff
[00:20:29] policy that has increased costs for many people and
[00:20:32] merchants in the United States, it has also gone up due to a war
[00:20:36] with Iran in which Americans also
[00:20:39] do not approve and which has increased the effect on gasoline,
[00:20:43] diesel, etc., and this is the reality that although
[00:20:46] the matter seems to be one of perception,
[00:20:50] they do not approve and it has increased the effect on gasoline, diesel,
[00:20:53] etc., and this is the reality, that although
[00:20:56] the matter seems to be one of perception, well, the
[00:21:00] costs have increased due to a series of policies and
[00:21:04] regulations of the Trump government. What else
[00:21:07] is happening is that the Republican discourse
[00:21:10] that claimed to be against a woke agenda, that claimed to be against
[00:21:14] a socialist agenda, no longer has as much weight as it did
[00:21:18] a few years ago.
[00:21:28] And I believe there are two elections that will be decisive to see how things are, because through
[00:21:32] these speeches, uh, that
[00:21:35] focus more on social aspects and even national
[00:21:38] aspects regarding certain candidates with, of course,
[00:21:42] liberal stances but who are more focused on
[00:21:45] responding with political messages to those
[00:21:48] concerns of citizens.
[00:21:50] Ah, here the issue is, for example, Atalarico, not only did Vice President
[00:21:54] Vance question and others have questioned his masculinity as
[00:21:57] if a gay candidate,
[00:22:00] even if openly so, could not reach
[00:22:03] the seat, or question him as a candidate because they made up that he did not
[00:22:07] eat meat, and that apparently disqualifies someone from being
[00:22:11] a senator, but don't you see that there is a lack
[00:22:14] of connection between the message from Republicans and the president and
[00:22:18] the reality people live, because the president tells people everything is fine and people
[00:22:22] say, even if they sympathize with him, they see that not everything is fine for
[00:22:25] them? Look, Juan Carlos, the problem is that the
[00:22:28] communication of the Republican party on how to
[00:22:32] improve the economy is the most important thing, the factories
[00:22:35] that are being built in this country, if you are an electrician, if
[00:22:39] you are a welder, if you are a plumber, you have
[00:22:43] a lot of work, you have more work than time,
[00:22:46] uh, why is that? Because of foreign investments.
[00:22:50] 21 trillion dollars, uh, to create
[00:22:53] new factories that President Trump and the Republican
[00:22:57] administration are bringing back to our country
[00:23:00] and manufacturing from countries like Korea, Japan,
[00:23:04] uh, other countries, uh, around the
[00:23:06] world that are investing again, but that
[00:23:10] takes more than 2 years, that's why President Trump and the
[00:23:13] Republicans have asked the American people to give them
[00:23:17] another 2 years so that they can see those
[00:23:20] improvements in the economy. It takes time
[00:23:24] because it's not immediate, we also saw in the
[00:23:27] previous administration of President Biden when he stopped
[00:23:31] the flow of oil from Canada through the Canada
[00:23:34] gas pipeline, uh,
[00:23:37] then the lack of licenses for the
[00:23:41] oil companies to be able to
[00:23:44] explore here in the United States, all that takes its time,
[00:23:48] now President Trump has launched an initiative for
[00:23:52] more oil refineries here in the United States
[00:23:55] and all these different economic
[00:23:58] initiatives to improve the economy take their time.
[00:24:02] It is also important to communicate to the American
[00:24:05] people, the reality is that candidates
[00:24:08] like Talorico in Texas and
[00:24:12] Muhammad Al-Said in Michigan
[00:24:14] are people who are not
[00:24:17] uh have a policy
[00:24:21] that is different from the constituents of those
[00:24:23] states. For example, in Michigan, African Americans,
[00:24:26] African Americans and Jews, he is anti-Jewish, neither
[00:24:30] Jews nor African Americans are supporting him, Maria, and you know
[00:24:33] it well, because he is anti-Jewish and
[00:24:37] in Texas he does not have the
[00:24:40] sentiment of Texans
[00:24:43] who are more conservative, Mr.'s
[00:24:46] stance. That means they won't vote for
[00:24:50] him. Let's go to the break and we'll be right back.
[00:24:53] Yes, yes, it's clear,
[00:25:02] and it's very good that you're back, you've said it at the beginning of the program, saying, well,
[00:25:06] assuming that this transition
[00:25:10] happens because there are a series of questions that you've explained very
[00:25:13] well, so that's to say, well, maybe this isn't
[00:25:17] as immediate as we think.
[00:25:20] Secondly, the point of transparency, of maintaining
[00:25:23] transparency, which, well, Bern
[00:25:26] got us dancing, he's been tremendously a
[00:25:29] positive asset and a great asset to the institution, and then
[00:25:33] fundamentally the structure of
[00:25:36] a strong Fed
[00:25:40] with that complexity it currently has
[00:25:44] of being regional, it's a strength, it's a
[00:25:47] strength.
[00:26:26] Every night there is the possibility of a
[00:26:29] bombing without filters. Our young people
[00:26:33] should not be treated that way anywhere.
[00:26:36] Here the question is: is there freedom? I believe in the country, in
[00:26:39] Spain, it is heard, this type of phenomenon is not
[00:26:43] that they are the generators of change, they are the expression of a change, and it is
[00:26:47] debated, its foreign policy will be like this, lukewarm, without
[00:26:50] taking positions, conclusions with Fernando del Rincón, Monday
[00:26:54] to Friday on CNN,
[00:26:57] live, from Mexico
[00:26:59] City,
[00:27:01] a story. It can change everything, a look at the
[00:27:05] reconstruction efforts of a city and the hope of a people
[00:27:08] determined to rise up, revolution very quickly and we never
[00:27:12] thought it would become a Category 5 and to understand what
[00:27:16] is happening, let's go with my colleague Ione Molinares to
[00:27:19] Washington,
[00:27:21] the explosion, we can see the dimension it had to take away the entire
[00:27:25] facade, we listen to the protagonists,
[00:27:29] they made fun of us as mothers and fathers of the...
[00:27:32] 23 where she lived a bomb fell, we are about to
[00:27:36] board this Mexican air force plane to
[00:27:39] Romania to have a complete vision. We are
[00:27:42] here as migrants to progress and make this country grow. There are
[00:27:46] great stories to learn and many perspectives to
[00:27:49] analyze. Perspectives with Mario González,
[00:27:53] Monday to Friday on
[00:27:54] CNN.
[00:27:57] I am Mexican British, I have been practicing
[00:28:01] journalism for 20 years. In Mexico City, in the United
[00:28:05] States and now in Miami for CNN. CNN
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[00:28:51] with Rebeca Kelly, Monday to Friday on
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[00:28:58] The conversation continues, elections in the United States, the
[00:29:02] dispute between President Trump and former President
[00:29:05] Obama is
[00:29:06] rekindled, revived.
[00:29:15] Business is all about making
[00:29:17] connections,
[00:29:21] but some connections are easier to make than
[00:29:24] others.
[00:29:28] With a CNN partner hotel, the world is always paying attention.
[00:29:39] Tuesday, election night in the United States, what is at
[00:29:43] stake is very important, will the Democrats win or
[00:29:47] will the Republicans maintain control of Congress?