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[00:00:00] land since history is
[00:00:03] history, since history is
[00:00:07] history, it's called land rent, meaning
[00:00:11] that those who own forests
[00:00:15] make people work, you have a forest
[00:00:18] area, it belongs to you, you are a landowner, you
[00:00:22] bring in the the capitalists who
[00:00:26] come to develop your forest beyond the
[00:00:29] taxes and... what they pay to the state, they pay you
[00:00:33] land rent, and that's the production
[00:00:36] sharing, President Sassou didn't
[00:00:40] talk about land rent, he talks about
[00:00:43] production sharing, but that means land
[00:00:47] rent, when the forest intelligentsia
[00:00:50] sits down, looks and says what does he mean,
[00:00:54] he he encounters in history and and in my
[00:00:57] and in my book, I've given indications on the
[00:01:01] countries that have agricultural land
[00:01:04] six chapters, rent regimes and in our country this
[00:01:08] regime has already taken place, what happens when there were large
[00:01:11] concessionary companies, these
[00:01:14] the companies worked uh and they
[00:01:17] returned to the French
[00:01:20] public treasury, you'll say why French, but
[00:01:23] we were not the Republic of Congo, we were
[00:01:27] French colonies, it was French territory, hmm hmm, they
[00:01:30] returned to the territory and rather to the
[00:01:33] French public treasury 15 % of their turnover,
[00:01:37] yes, it was the
[00:01:39] rent,
[00:01:42] exactly, and so the traceability that I'm
[00:01:45] allowing myself to do, is to show all these
[00:01:49] scenarios around the world to say if we
[00:01:52] want to make production sharing contracts as the President
[00:01:56] said, we must establish land rent.
[00:02:00] in forestry exploitation in Congo and perhaps in the Congo Basin
[00:02:04] and the three basins Mr.
[00:02:07] metaphor, the dictate of Kanga, what place do local populations occupy
[00:02:09] in these forest contracts? ah
[00:02:13] madam, when the forced
[00:02:16] round comes, I'll give you a case, maybe I should give
[00:02:19] cases so that so that everyone
[00:02:22] understands, not just us, even those who follow us, also understand how it works, when
[00:02:25] when the current exploitation, yes
[00:02:28] when for the general interest, it's always for the general interest that we
[00:02:32] classify a forest, when we classify a
[00:02:35] forest, this forest belonged first to
[00:02:39] landowners here and there, because we take an entire
[00:02:43] area, for example when you take the Ngombé forest, it's
[00:02:46] one million of of of Ngombé, so it must be exploited by
[00:02:50] if 1 million hectares yes, do you see, so
[00:02:54] he has landowners, meaning that in
[00:02:57] the exploitation for the rent, we... must know
[00:03:01] who is a hunter, who is a fisherman, do you not know that
[00:03:05] there are people, populations,
[00:03:07] diversity through this great gathering of peasants who organize collective fishing, they
[00:03:10] organize fishing because they are owners of large
[00:03:13] fishing ponds, President Sassou
[00:03:16] himself, Angolo Doua, he has
[00:03:19] ponds, he organizes fishing, he has
[00:03:23] seasons, because he is a landowner of these
[00:03:26] ponds left by uh uh uh
[00:03:30] uh his grandparents, so the question you
[00:03:36] in the service of ask, when we enter the regime of
[00:03:39] production sharing, the
[00:03:42] populations who have historical or political
[00:03:46] rights regarding the forest, because land ownership
[00:03:49] allows you to know, studies allow you to
[00:03:53] all know who is a resident of the village,
[00:03:56] who is a landowner? who is not?
[00:04:00] who is a farmer? who is not? and so
[00:04:04] on, we should
[00:04:06] henceforth
[00:04:08] when we take and classify a forest, we should henceforth have
[00:04:12] uh
[00:04:14] the list of all these people who had
[00:04:18] land rights in this forest and make sure
[00:04:22] that when the land rent is
[00:04:24] paid, then they get their
[00:04:28] percentage, well, I... come to the famous forest
[00:04:31] rent, the 2020 forest code talks about it since the forest
[00:04:35] code has a part reserved for resource sharing contracts, what
[00:04:39] is your assessment of the existing forest code since the President spoke in
[00:04:43] 2016, the forest code was passed in 2020, what is your assessment of the
[00:04:46] forest code? Well Mr. Journalist, I don't
[00:04:50] know, yes
[00:04:51] state, a photo where he is sitting next to a uh I have
[00:04:55] read the forest code you are talking about, so it is law 33/2020
[00:04:59] absolutely.
[00:05:06] I have read law 33
[00:05:09] 38 2024.
[00:05:12] of 11 uh October I think
[00:05:15] 2024 concerning the production
[00:05:19] sharing regime, yes, but I haven't seen, I haven't yet
[00:05:22] encountered the concept of land
[00:05:25] rent as it is called, land rent, but it
[00:05:29] does the sharing, is it a problem of concept or is it a problem of practice since
[00:05:32] the concept can be, can, can be, we can use a synonym concept, do
[00:05:36] you absolutely want us to use the concept of rent or can we use its
[00:05:40] synonym? Well, but you have to be careful, Mr.
[00:05:43] we are managing a
[00:05:46] sector that we are
[00:05:49] not alone in, yes, in this
[00:05:52] sector, farmers live there,
[00:05:56] fishermen live there, okay, artists live
[00:06:00] there, everyone lives there,
[00:06:03] hunters, so when we
[00:06:07] reflect, we must be a little more
[00:06:11] precise. So that everyone, you
[00:06:14] asked me to speak for everyone, absolutely, exactly,
[00:06:18] so that everyone understands, but I will take what you say,
[00:06:22] yes, you will find in this law that you cite,
[00:06:24] yes, law 33,
[00:06:27] yes, it lays down the principle
[00:06:31] of production sharing, it
[00:06:33] says, we share all the production, uh,
[00:06:37] that the forestry operator
[00:06:39] accumulated during a calendar year. H. This
[00:06:43] is the principle, law 38
[00:06:46] 2024 H, which
[00:06:49] comes to share the productions,
[00:06:53] okay, so it comes as if to implement the forestry
[00:06:56] code, yes, this law, uh, uh,
[00:07:00] suffers from a flaw, this law suffers,
[00:07:03] it talks uh, I don't
[00:07:07] have the articles, it talks about first sharing, there are
[00:07:10] three or two levels of sharing. Ah, well, it starts from the first
[00:07:13] sharing, 15 % of the product on the
[00:07:17] ground, so what can be assimilated a
[00:07:21] bit to land rent,
[00:07:25] do you understand me? So it's not the same thing, no, since it says
[00:07:28] 15 % of the right to the soil, it's it's it's the same
[00:07:32] thing in a way, but uh,
[00:07:35] but the concept of land rent does not appear, attention,
[00:07:39] attention, it does not appear, yes, the concept does not appear.
[00:07:46] Because when the concept doesn't appear, you can't find
[00:07:50] the theory that brought this concept into the world, you can find the
[00:07:53] equivalent concept, but then what is the
[00:07:56] theory?
[00:08:02] What is the theory in this law? This law has no
[00:08:05] theory that accompanies the sharing. This law also
[00:08:09] says this: after we have given the state 15
[00:08:13] % of the right to the soil, this law has adopted an equalization
[00:08:16] in it, I could demonstrate that to you but it's long,
[00:08:20] equalization in it up to 40
[00:08:23] %, meaning if the company
[00:08:27] has a turnover of this, it gives
[00:08:30] 20 %. If the company has a turnover of this
[00:08:34] and that, I'm exaggerating the law a bit, go ahead, and then up to
[00:08:38] 40 %, you take for example a forestry
[00:08:42] company that has a turnover that allows it to give even more
[00:08:46] than 15 % of the right to the soil, to give another 40 %
[00:08:49] of its production uh to the landowners,
[00:08:53] so to the state, you
[00:08:56] calculate if you take 15 % plus
[00:08:59] 40 % you are at how much already? 15 % + 40, h,
[00:09:03] 55 % you are at 55, yes, to give to the
[00:09:06] landowner, but the operator has
[00:09:10] paid you taxes and everything that is ordinary today,
[00:09:14] the forestry taxation in question, if you
[00:09:16] also convert that into a share, because you
[00:09:20] haven't reimbursed them, because there are clauses, because there are
[00:09:24] theories, when we do production sharing, the operator must
[00:09:27] be reimbursed for all the expenses he has
[00:09:30] incurred,
[00:09:32] the operator must, we do not share the production
[00:09:36] of logs, not at all, I told you, there are what we
[00:09:40] call forest roads, that is... damages and
[00:09:43] losses caused to to to the forest by
[00:09:47] the exploiter, by the exploiter, that we give a
[00:09:50] market value and it is this market value that
[00:09:53] the exploiter uh programs in his budget and
[00:09:57] that he pays to the landowners in the form of
[00:10:00] land rent, that's the sharing, Mr.
[00:10:04] Ondélé, do you think that a reform of forest
[00:10:07] contracts is still possible and why
[00:10:11] not? Because you have already stopped the republic,
[00:10:15] have you already stopped the republic? Why not? But
[00:10:19] but I'm talking about it, I'm jealous of what's
[00:10:22] happening, about jealousy, sir, you are a manager
[00:10:25] Yeah, what's your show called? in the house, you are a manager of water and forests, etcetera, you are a manager of the ministry,
[00:10:27] what have you done? Is that a way for you to say "oh, it's not me,
[00:10:31] it's the others," since you are the one who should actually, yet
[00:10:35] you are there, yet you are there yourself, you come to milk others to say "oh no, it's not me."
[00:10:41] Motamou? You went into the motam. Yes, yes, it's
[00:10:44] really the motam, but Mr. Journalist, it's
[00:10:48] been 10 years since I've been out of this house. But
[00:10:52] no, you're an expert in forest governance, how to make all
[00:10:55] this evolve, since the forest code exists, it's not applied, the president talked about
[00:10:59] 2007, it's not evolving, now as an expert in forest governance,
[00:11:02] what do you propose for it to evolve, because the country needs
[00:11:06] money, I'm going to say it clearly like that, the economy needs to turn,
[00:11:09] but Mr. Journalist, yes, what does the writer do, the writer
[00:11:13] anticipates situations, yes,
[00:11:17] the writer dreams and says,
[00:11:19] no, but you're not, you proposed some solutions? Exactly,
[00:11:23] exactly, ah, this
[00:11:26] book has
[00:11:29] yes, I'm reading six chapters, yes, the
[00:11:33] first chapter uh, I try
[00:11:36] to talk about genesis of
[00:11:39] epistemological thought,
[00:11:42] absolutely, you don't talk about that,
[00:11:44] the genesis of epistemological
[00:11:47] thought, yes, it's already, it's very complicated, epistemological
[00:11:51] thought, there are some who don't understand, especially those who follow us at home, yeah, what does that
[00:11:55] mean in simple terms, but uh
[00:11:59] if you are uh at home
[00:12:01] or you go to the village, you buy a generator
[00:12:04] yes, you want to light up the village, what do you
[00:12:08] do? After the generator, what do you do? You
[00:12:12] buy cables, yes, which must conduct the current,
[00:12:15] and then you arrive uh uh at
[00:12:19] the switches or whatever, you pass the lights, the light bulbs in the
[00:12:23] houses, that's it,
[00:12:27] the dictate of the ball, it's a
[00:12:32] the ball resembles this
[00:12:33] generator, and the epistemological-forestry
[00:12:37] conception resembles this economic
[00:12:41] theory, this economic theory, that is, it's the
[00:12:45] cable that conducts the current and the production
[00:12:49] sharing contracts, that's the end, okay, well,
[00:12:53] you're not just a writer, you're also an expert, you've worked, you're also, you're
[00:12:56] a manager perhaps of water and forests, you've worked for the Ministry of Forestry Affairs, haven't
[00:13:00] you? It's been 10 years since you were fired, that's what you said, it's been 10 years since you were
[00:13:04] fired, is uh in this book,
[00:13:07] Mr. Ondel is saying, well, in any case, you were wrong to fire me,
[00:13:11] I can propose many things, no
[00:13:14] uh no so I don't
[00:13:16] have maybe this book will be
[00:13:20] contested by those who govern,
[00:13:23] maybe this book will be contested. by those who want,
[00:13:26] I'm waiting, hm hm, you are the journalists who
[00:13:29] should after reading my
[00:13:32] book, after because in this
[00:13:35] book, I take the law that exists, okay, everything I
[00:13:39] tell you, I I I make these
[00:13:42] similarities in the book to demonstrate that
[00:13:45] if that law is applied, if Mr. Journalist, I'm going to tell
[00:13:49] you the word, if that law is applied,
[00:13:53] yes, by December 31st,
[00:13:56] there will be, there will be, there will be, there will be, if that law
[00:14:00] is applied, in 2026 there will be no more forestry companies here.
[00:14:04] Oh, really? Well, yes, but if the
[00:14:07] landowner manages to take 62
[00:14:10] %, the company has almost nothing, it's the one who has to pay
[00:14:14] people's salaries, it's the one who has to bear
[00:14:18] of it. The landowner, just with his right of
[00:14:22] land ownership, he takes his
[00:14:24] 2 %, what's left for? That means it won't work.
[00:14:28] We'll be crazy. What's left for the forestry operator?
[00:14:32] That's what that law, the profile of the existing law,
[00:14:36] that's it. Oh, really? Oh, yes, the
[00:14:39] profile of the law that exists now, the one you propose, how is it?
[00:14:43] Huh? The law you propose, your land rent, how is it? I didn't
[00:14:46] propose the law in the book, no.
[00:14:50] I proposed, yes, uh, uh,
[00:14:53] the approach. Certain approaches
[00:14:57] to take, it's there in the 2nd chapter, I see it here,
[00:15:00] it's there in the 2nd chapter, here, I see it here, governance prerequisites, in order
[00:15:04] to properly administer the national forestry sector under the production
[00:15:07] sharing regime, the separation of traditional sectors, (in parentheses, exploitation and
[00:15:11] transformation) is usefully necessary, followed
[00:15:15] by the creation of other sectors such as environmental forestry,
[00:15:19] the rural exotics of forest goods and services, administrative forestry
[00:15:22] decentralization and so on, sectors and so on, so here you propose the
[00:15:25] prerequisites, the governance prerequisites, but you took that in the middle, yes, but
[00:15:29] I'm taking the prerequisites, prerequisites of governance, that's what
[00:15:33] it's called, uh, governance prerequisites.
[00:15:36] Exactly, no, it's called prerequisite recommendations, yes,
[00:15:39] but here it says prerequisite governance, yes, this is the
[00:15:43] last one, yes, so I say if we want, if
[00:15:46] a country, because my problem, the problem of this
[00:15:50] book is to make production sharing
[00:15:53] contracts accessible, meaning
[00:15:57] that people understand
[00:16:00] what is meant by production sharing contracts in the forestry
[00:16:04] sector, yes, and that people who have
[00:16:08] such as the Congo Basin, we are members of the Congo
[00:16:11] Basin, people who have forests, so what
[00:16:15] I call the owner states, that the owner states
[00:16:19] manage
[00:16:21] to initiate the use of production sharing
[00:16:25] contracts in the Congo Basin and in the three basins,
[00:16:29] it's a revolution, an
[00:16:33] economic renaissance of
[00:16:35] forestry.
[00:16:39] I'm speaking here as a writer, okay, as a manager
[00:16:42] also on this
[00:16:46] question, writing a book without being a manager
[00:16:49] somewhere, of course, oh, oh, of course, you can
[00:16:52] do research, yes, oh, you can do research, the one who does research
[00:16:56] is zero, I didn't say zero, but you're an in-house manager, the
[00:17:00] problem the one who does
[00:17:04] research, what you described in this book, you were among the managers who
[00:17:07] managed this ministry, yes, exactly, that means you didn't really
[00:17:11] work, you are part of the people who failed there at the ministry since it hasn't been applied for 10 years, if this failure is
[00:17:15] collective, I take my share, but then it will be
[00:17:19] individual because and it's not
[00:17:22] me who makes the decisions,
[00:17:24] exactly, if the failure is
[00:17:27] given it's like what I told you, if
[00:17:31] the popular vindication
[00:17:35] and all that, we are all involved in it. Yes, but maybe
[00:17:38] there are thieves who steal money, maybe there isn't, it's a problem
[00:17:42] of reference, maybe there isn't, there's a problem of reform. Listen,
[00:17:45] maybe, yes, but when the population says that,
[00:17:49] you who are all in this box, you are confused as
[00:17:52] thieves. Exactly, but if you are also a manager of this
[00:17:56] house and you hear these cries from the heart and you
[00:18:00] must question yourself to to reflect. Exactly,
[00:18:04] Mr. Kanga, regarding this book, I
[00:18:38] you learn it today, Socrates never
[00:18:41] wrote, Socrates never wrote, all his teaching
[00:18:45] was oral, yes, the whole world talks about Socrates,
[00:18:48] recognized Socrates as a great
[00:18:52] philosopher,
[00:18:56] President Sassou Nguesso talks about production
[00:19:00] sharing contracts in rural areas, meaning mines
[00:19:03] and forests, because he stopped there. This means he's a head of state, he was
[00:19:07] advised by someone, he's a head of state, but you're not going to ask the
[00:19:11] president who advised you, that's it, when
[00:19:14] you advise a president, so when he said something, you go somewhere
[00:19:18] to say it's me who advised him, it's President Sassou Nguesso
[00:19:22] who said it, okay,
[00:19:24] before him, no one said
[00:19:27] that, okay,
[00:19:29] that's why, out of intellectual
[00:19:33] honesty, I wanted to
[00:19:36] share his thought,
[00:19:39] because I come in this book to theorize,
[00:19:43] to uh uh trace what he said, but
[00:19:47] the thought, it's his thought, very well, sir, are you looking for a
[00:19:50] favor in return? No, what favor, sir,
[00:19:54] what favor? The writer doesn't look for favor, because that's become the current
[00:19:57] technique, huh, no, it's called an approach technique, no, he's doing
[00:20:01] that because he wants to attract the president, he's attracting attention, yeah, if you take the
[00:20:05] photos of... meetings and everything to say that maybe
[00:20:08] no, but you have a question about the
[00:20:11] photo? A question about the photo because we'll have the impression that it's a book from the
[00:20:15] presidency since it has the official photo of the president, it will cause confusion,
[00:20:18] even I, when I saw the book, I said to myself, well, this is perhaps a book written by the
[00:20:22] presidency's service since it is a official photo, why
[00:20:25] this choice? We could take another photo of the head of
[00:20:29] garden somewhere, but you take the official photo, hm hm, the
[00:20:33] portrait of the head of state, okay, well, that's the photo I
[00:20:36] found that was best, hm, and I thought that's
[00:20:39] the one I should use, and I even asked, I even asked the
[00:20:43] publishing house, yes, I said, I choose that photo, it's the official
[00:20:47] photo, is it a problem for you who
[00:20:51] publish in the world? Is there
[00:20:54] a problem? Will I encounter difficulties? They
[00:20:58] said no. Before finishing, where can we find this book? The book is
[00:21:01] sold, yes, on the global platform,
[00:21:05] hm, Amazon, yes, Amazon, exactly,
[00:21:09] how much is it? Just uh
[00:21:11] for it, the prices are there
[00:21:15] uh the price of the book is set by the publishing house and
[00:21:19] not by the author. I see here 20.5 € in
[00:21:22] Africa it's 2000 CFA francs exactly outside Africa it's
[00:21:25] 35.5 € exactly okay thank you very much
[00:21:29] okay if someone needs the book they can contact me at the
[00:21:33] number and and then I'll give them the Amazon link they
[00:21:37] can also contact us they can contact our show and we'll pass
[00:21:40] on the number my number is 06 yes
[00:21:44] 545 yes 75
[00:21:48] yes 60 So ladies and gentlemen, we have
[00:21:52] reached the end of our show, thank you very much to Mr. André Andelio Kanga for
[00:21:55] accepting our invitation, it was really good here, he talked about his three
[00:21:59] books uh which are mainly concerned with the management of
[00:22:02] forest governance, thank you therefore to the technical teams, thank you to
[00:22:06] Soleil Kunga who was on camera, Spera and Bata also behind the camera, thank
[00:22:10] you very much, Mr. Handeli, to conclude, uh the
[00:22:13] forestry sector only contributes 4 % to the national GDP, only contributes 4 %
[00:22:17] compared to the latest figures, uh and... you as
[00:22:20] an expert in forest governance, what can we do as
[00:22:24] a last message to improve, to make these figures evolve? If we apply
[00:22:28] the rent, hm hm, if we apply the
[00:22:31] forest land rent, okay, we will go from 20 to
[00:22:35] 30 %. Thank you very much, if we apply the forest rent,
[00:22:39] the land rent, we will reach 10, 20,
[00:22:42] 30 % and then that will contribute to the development of the economy, thank
[00:22:45] you very much, well, we're at the end, we're at the end, the why was already developed here, thank
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