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[00:00:00] Saturday, September 19, 2006, at the federal headquarters of the
[00:00:04] Congolese Labor Party PCT Brazzaville, the first
[00:00:07] secretary of the rising Congolese force, Vadim
[00:00:10] Osdemvoba, who gathered the staff of the
[00:00:13] FMC Brazzaville, including the federal bureau and
[00:00:17] the presidents of the committees, held a working session lasting several
[00:00:21] hours in a spirit of camaraderie to set the
[00:00:24] course before the future electoral battles, the
[00:00:27] legislative and local elections of 2027. In his
[00:00:31] project carried out within introductory speech, the first FMC secretary
[00:00:34] gave clear guidelines, the action
[00:00:37] strategy of the PCT youth
[00:00:40] will be based on this commitment, first
[00:00:43] commitment, we must at all costs make training a truly
[00:00:47] essential priority.
[00:00:50] Second commitment, we must systematically
[00:00:53] strengthen our efforts. Third
[00:00:57] commitment, very dear comrades. We... we must
[00:01:00] make our structures true
[00:01:04] Latin Quarters. Fourth commitment, we must
[00:01:08] at all costs mobilize our
[00:01:11] youth around national guidelines.
[00:01:14] Fifth commitment, we must explain
[00:01:17] the government's actions by shedding
[00:01:22] important elements are observation for environmental visit placed under the sign of light for our fellow citizens on the measures taken by the public
[00:01:25] authorities. Sixth commitment, we must at all costs
[00:01:28] run the race. comes, we must foster
[00:01:32] unity, we must foster discipline, I would even say
[00:01:35] self-discipline. Seventh commitment, pay attention,
[00:01:39] we must participate in the qualitative
[00:01:44] will be a major indicator rejuvenation of the instances and bodies of the Congolese Labor
[00:01:46] particularly in the energy Party. This is what brings us together today, this
[00:01:49] commitment of vital importance which allows
[00:01:52] us together by looking in the same
[00:01:56] direction, to serenely prepare the legislative
[00:02:00] and local elections while revitalizing the political
[00:02:03] personnel of the rising Congolese force here in Brazzaville, a meeting that
[00:02:07] sounds like a general mobilization of the FMC
[00:02:10] Brazzaville. Beyond the
[00:02:12] the participation of strategy, the final goal was recalled: to resolutely engage in these
[00:02:16] electoral consultations to
[00:02:18] mining and win a large majority in order to
[00:02:21] facilitate the implementation of the Head of State's vision in terms of
[00:02:24] development.
[00:02:28] Well, you've probably guessed it, this is... the end of this information
[00:02:31] session, remember
[00:02:34] defense. How to make that artisanal fishing is a true cultural
[00:02:36] heritage and a vector of employment that President
[00:02:40] Denissan Guesso values. He attended today a traditional fishing
[00:02:43] party called locola in the village of
[00:02:46] Ndolé in Congongi. Have an excellent
[00:02:49] evening in the company of Allen France and
[00:02:52] Tokabeka.
[00:02:56] that deals with
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[00:04:21] point of view, from the point of view of
[00:04:26] of space militarization hangs
[00:04:31] After receiving the Beninese President Romuald de Wadani last Thursday in
[00:04:35] Brazzaville, on an African tour, the Congolese Head of
[00:04:39] Republic of Kazakhstan. The President State opened a new to Europe's page of his agenda through the new
[00:04:42] foreign country delegation that arrived at Olombo International
[00:04:46] Airport in the early evening of Friday, September 18,
[00:04:49] 2026. Denis Sasungeso was welcomed by
[00:04:52] the prefect of the Nkenia department, Alfonsin Akobe,
[00:04:56] and other military and
[00:04:58] civilian authorities. The President of the Republic is starting a visit of
[00:05:02] a few days, the nature of which is essentially social.
[00:05:06] However, from the banks of the Alima that he loves so much,
[00:05:10] the Head of State will continue to scrutinize
[00:05:13] the progress of his country, of Africa and of the rest of the world. Thus, contacts
[00:05:17] with different actors are not to be excluded on various
[00:05:20] and crucial issues such as peace and security, climate
[00:05:24] change, artificial intelligence, the development of
[00:05:27] Congo in the era of international uncertainty. This last
[00:05:30] undertaking sometimes resembles the 12 labors of Hercules, requiring
[00:05:34] tact, finesse and
[00:05:35] bravery.
[00:05:47] Tact, finesse and bravery, these character traits, often lacking in
[00:05:51] personification, fortunately find their embodiment,
[00:05:55] even in our
[00:05:56] latitudes.
[00:06:05] After Kigali Waada, the Beninese president arrived on the
[00:06:08] evening of Thursday, September 17, 2026, in
[00:06:12] Brazzaville for a working visit of a few hours. Romuald
[00:06:15] Waadani was welcomed upon his arrival by the Prime Minister,
[00:06:19] Head of Government, Anatole Coliné Macoso. After the welcoming
[00:06:23] bouquet, the Beninese head of state then greeted the constituted
[00:06:26] bodies who had come to welcome him, thus
[00:06:29] setting the tone for this
[00:06:33] friendship and cooperation between
[00:06:36] countries. This visit of the first Beninese citizen
[00:06:39] Romiald Waadagne falls within the framework of strengthening
[00:06:43] the friendly relations between Benin and Congo. This
[00:06:46] visit will be marked by a tête-à-tête between President
[00:06:50] Sasungeso and Romiade Wadani
[00:06:53] who will discuss bilateral issues. Congo
[00:06:56] hosts a large Beninese community active in
[00:07:00] trade and artisanal fishing in Pointe
[00:07:02] Noire. Shortly before the arrival of President Romney, the
[00:07:06] Beninese living in Brazzaville traveled to the airport
[00:07:10] to give a warm welcome to the Beninese president.
[00:07:26] after his arrival in Brazzaville, the Beninese leader Romial Wadani was
[00:07:30] received at the Plateau residence by Head of State Denis
[00:07:33] Sasungeso. The two leaders held high-level talks
[00:07:36] dedicated to issues of common interest, particularly issues
[00:07:40] related to strengthening bilateral cooperation between Congo and
[00:07:43] Benin. The relations between the two countries established in
[00:07:47] 1963 are today governed by a framework agreement for
[00:07:50] cooperation signed in 2010, based on ties of
[00:07:54] friendship, solidarity, and mutual development. They
[00:07:58] concern several areas that encompass economy, social,
[00:08:01] technical, defense, and security. This
[00:08:04] meeting between Denis Asungeso and Romial Wadani, which
[00:08:08] testifies to the will of the two heads of state to consolidate the Brazzaville-Cotonou
[00:08:11] axis, opens new perspectives for
[00:08:15] Congo-Benin cooperation. At the end of these fruitful talks in every
[00:08:19] respect, President Romien Le Wadani left Brazzaville this
[00:08:22] Thursday in the early
[00:08:24] evening.
[00:08:32] Ndolé village in the Congo-Ubangi department, 45
[00:08:35] km from Mosaka by navigable route and 25
[00:08:39] minutes from Oyo by helicopter. This
[00:08:41] locality in Likuala Mossaca, which gives it all its freshness
[00:08:45] and originality, had the honor and privilege of hosting on Sunday, September 20,
[00:08:49] 2026, the President of the
[00:08:51] Republic.
[00:08:57] Denis Sasu Ngesso came to witness a traditional fishing
[00:09:00] party called Lokala in Likuba, the local
[00:09:05] State and his entourage, the fishermen of Ndolé village,
[00:09:09] with their feet in the water, demonstrated their full talent to
[00:09:13] offer the audience, according to Brel Kumu, a native of
[00:09:16] Mosaka, a memorable fishing party, combining
[00:09:19] dexterity, agility, and
[00:09:20] ingenuity.
[00:09:24] When you see the thing we surrounded the house with, there are fish in it, we're going to remove the
[00:09:27] weeds, then there are fish down there, there are
[00:09:31] fish,
[00:09:33] after that we'll remove them, there are
[00:09:35] fish.
[00:09:43] For the prefect of the Congo Ubange department, Habib Gilas
[00:09:45] Ubambioko, and the deputy of Mosaka 2, Marien Mobonzo
[00:09:49] and Ndonga, the presence of the President of the Republic Denise
[00:09:52] Assou at the traditional fishing party is a strong
[00:09:55] signal, a source of joy and hope. As the
[00:09:59] prefect of the
[00:10:00] department,
[00:10:07] it is a great satisfaction to receive the father of the nation, tonight. Here
[00:10:11] we are in Misaka. Dolé, 45 km
[00:10:14] from Saka, the capital of fish, so it is a feeling
[00:10:18] of satisfaction, we believe that
[00:10:21] this should be an impetus, an impetus for...
[00:10:25] around fishing to organize tourism, to
[00:10:29] organize aquaculture, to organize other ideas, to
[00:10:32] organize in general, the
[00:10:35] development of the area, which is a specific area, income-generating
[00:10:39] activity, artisanal fishing in Ndolé
[00:10:43] arouses great interest from the youth of this
[00:10:45] locality who are asking for support from the public
[00:10:49] authorities.
[00:10:53] The traditional fishing party in Ndolé village was a moving
[00:10:57] moment for the President of the Republic. Through it,
[00:11:00] Denis Sasugesso immersed himself in the memories of his
[00:11:03] youth. He praised the commitment of compatriots
[00:11:06] living in this part of the Republic who produce goods useful for life
[00:11:10] without destroying nature. This reminds
[00:11:14] me of all my
[00:11:16] youth,
[00:11:19] because I was born,
[00:11:23] I grew up in this
[00:11:26] environment,
[00:11:31] and I do what the
[00:11:34] other young people there
[00:11:37] do in front of us. Well, before entering
[00:11:41] modern life, for a brief
[00:11:45] history,
[00:11:48] to enter college in
[00:11:49] 6th grade,
[00:11:53] I was actually
[00:11:55] looking in the middle of the forest, I was
[00:11:59] in the
[00:12:00] mud,
[00:12:03] and they took me out of the mud, to
[00:12:07] college, it's a natural environment for me,
[00:12:09] it's a great pleasure to
[00:12:12] reconnect with this environment, to
[00:12:16] connect,
[00:12:18] and here we are
[00:12:22] in the heart of the Congo Basin.
[00:12:26] And I'm happy to see that the parents
[00:12:29] here continue to fight with their bare
[00:12:32] hands, their great
[00:12:36] support, they are there, they
[00:12:39] fight with their bare
[00:12:41] hands and they
[00:12:44] produce without destroying
[00:12:47] nature. To continue his speech, the Head of State asked the
[00:12:51] peasants to follow the government's program, which, he added, includes
[00:12:55] the development of agricultural activities, but also fishing, which
[00:12:58] justifies the existence of ministries within the executive in charge of
[00:13:01] fluvial economy. The government has launched
[00:13:05] a major agricultural development
[00:13:08] program. Regarding
[00:13:11] fishermen, we have set
[00:13:14] up an entire ministerial
[00:13:18] department
[00:13:21] the fluvial economy.
[00:13:25] We will provide them with the
[00:13:27] support, the same support we provide to
[00:13:31] farmers through mechanization. After answering
[00:13:34] press questions, President
[00:13:38] to Oyo, where he continues his
[00:13:40] stay.
[00:13:48] The Congolese Head of State arrived in Paris this Tuesday, September 8,
[00:13:52] 2026, accompanied by the First Lady,
[00:13:55] for a working visit of a few days at the invitation of his
[00:13:59] counterpart, Emmanuel Macron. President Denis
[00:14:01] Sasungesso is making his great return to the international
[00:14:05] scene, 6 months after his brilliant re-election to the Supreme
[00:14:09] Magistracy. Upon leaving the diplomatic lounge of Roissy Charles De
[00:14:12] Gaulle, the President of the Republic and his wife were greeted by
[00:14:16] diplomatic personnel and by some active forces of the Paris
[00:14:20] scene. Sasungeso will participate in the very first international
[00:14:23] summit on space, organized on September 9 and 10
[00:14:27] at the invitation of French President Emmanuel Macron. In
[00:14:31] fact, the President of the Republic approaches this crucial diplomatic
[00:14:35] comeback with a firm conviction to place Congo at
[00:14:38] the heart of major political projects where issues of
[00:14:41] sovereignty and technological innovation intersect.
[00:14:59] The Paris summit is therefore an opportunity to open a dialogue between
[00:15:03] decision-makers from nearly 120 countries in the service of a space commensurate
[00:15:06] with the challenges of our time. This global meeting takes place in a
[00:15:10] complex diplomatic climate. In this
[00:15:12] context, the redefinition of scientific and economic
[00:15:16] alliances, the presence of historical figures of African
[00:15:19] diplomacy such as President Denis Sasungeso, demonstrates that
[00:15:23] space is no longer the private hunting ground of a few nations,
[00:15:27] but a common good where Africa intends to take its full
[00:15:30] place. Ultimately, after the series of Entalia
[00:15:33] beaches, it is a calendar resolutely focused on the
[00:15:36] future that awaited the President of the Republic Denis Assoungesso in
[00:15:40] the French
[00:15:40] capital.
[00:15:49] Élysée Palace, Wednesday, September 9,
[00:15:51] 2026. 10:20 AM, the grand gate
[00:15:55] opens and the President of the Republic Nissasungeso makes his
[00:15:59] entry under the honors of the Republican
[00:16:01] Guard.
[00:16:14] Meanwhile, French President Emmanuel Macron descends the steps
[00:16:18] of the palace to meet his guest, the Congolese Head
[00:16:21] of State. Warm greetings and embraces, this is the sign of
[00:16:25] cooperation and bilateral issues that announce the
[00:16:28] quality of the one-on-one discussions between the two
[00:16:31] presidents. Yes, regarding technological and
[00:16:35] scientific issues, the one-on-one meeting between the two leaders offers
[00:16:39] the opportunity to review several major bilateral and
[00:16:42] regional issues. In climate and environmental
[00:16:45] matters, in his capacity as President of the Congo Basin
[00:16:49] Climate Commission, President Denis Sasungesso
[00:16:52] addressed the follow-up of international commitments
[00:16:56] on carbon credits and the financing of biodiversity
[00:16:59] and the blue fund for the Congo Basin. Regional
[00:17:02] stability, with the security situation in Central Africa
[00:17:06] and the Great Lakes region where Brazzaville regularly
[00:17:09] plays a mediation role, was also on the
[00:17:12] table for discussions. In terms of economic
[00:17:15] partnership, Denis Sungesso and Emmanuel Macron
[00:17:19] reviewed French investments in Congo,
[00:17:23] and infrastructure sectors. This high-level
[00:17:27] meeting reaffirms the solidity of diplomatic relations
[00:17:29] between Paris and Brazzaville, while
[00:17:32] embedding their historical partnerships in the technological
[00:17:36] challenges of tomorrow.
[00:17:53] At the national space summit in Paris, Wednesday was
[00:17:57] dedicated to major themes and key panel sessions, namely
[00:18:00] space science and exploration, global space
[00:18:03] economy, regulation of space activities,
[00:18:08] security and governance,
[00:18:11] space a domain of cooperation, development and
[00:18:15] security, while avoiding it becoming a new space for
[00:18:19] confrontation and inequality. is the
[00:18:22] central issue of this summit. Currently, private
[00:18:25] companies now play a key role in launchers,
[00:18:28] satellites, telecommunications, as well as
[00:18:31] services based on the exploitation of spatial
[00:18:34] data. For African countries, these technologies can
[00:18:38] be mobilized in sectors such as maritime
[00:18:41] surveillance, agriculture, land use planning, the
[00:18:45] management of natural resources, earth observation also allows
[00:18:49] monitoring of forests and climate phenomena. For Congo,
[00:18:53] which hosts an essential part of the Congo Basin, these capabilities
[00:18:56] are of particular strategic importance. We are
[00:19:00] very happy to be here in Paris at the International Space
[00:19:03] Summit. President Macron did us the
[00:19:06] honor of inviting his counterpart, President Denis Sasungesso, because
[00:19:10] Congo has an ambition for space since
[00:19:13] 2016, a common initiative was launched in
[00:19:15] Brazzaville, European Union, African
[00:19:19] Union on an observation satellite on environmental
[00:19:23] issues. Most recently, our heads
[00:19:26] of state decided to
[00:19:30] Africa because the major decisions that concern even our daily lives, the
[00:19:33] monitoring of our forests, our water courses, the prevention of natural
[00:19:37] disasters, the issue of monitoring our borders and you know how
[00:19:40] important this issue is today
[00:19:44] the integrity of our territory and our country. All
[00:19:48] these issues can be monitored, resolved through
[00:19:51] satellites. So the presence of Congo here is justified
[00:19:55] both from a diplomatic
[00:19:59] cooperation and ambition
[00:20:02] and that the President of the Republic will make very important announcements
[00:20:05] concerning in particular the... observation of the Congo
[00:20:09] Basin forest and it is also important to know that Congo has an ambitious
[00:20:13] space program with the
[00:20:16] of the Republic, with this partner, is working to ensure that in
[00:20:20] 2028, Congo puts its first satellite into
[00:20:23] orbit and we are currently with our partners from
[00:20:27] Kazakhstan in the training phase of our
[00:20:31] engineers in the preparation phase of this
[00:20:35] launch. Africa cannot be on the sidelines. At this first international
[00:20:38] summit, the Republic of Congo therefore has an important role to play, given the
[00:20:42] leader of the Republic of Congo, particularly in his capacity as President of the
[00:20:46] Climate Commission. The President of the Republic, in his wisdom,
[00:20:50] I think it is important that we have a
[00:20:53] forest observatory for the Congo Basin because we need this
[00:20:57] data to better manage our forest, which is a global
[00:21:00] heritage. Space must be a tool for Africa's development
[00:21:04] and not a new factor of dependency. Today, there is almost
[00:21:08] one launch every two days, apart from an actor like SpaceX in the
[00:21:11] United States. There are 1800 satellites in
[00:21:14] orbit, almost 70% of which are now
[00:21:18] satellites launched by private
[00:21:22] operators. One of the major consequences at the technological level is that these
[00:21:26] satellites, which cost at least 10 years ago a minimum of 50 million
[00:21:30] dollars per unit, today the unit cost of a satellite is approximately
[00:21:33] 250,000 dollars for a satellite like the one your colleague
[00:21:37] will show you shortly, which means that Congo can actually
[00:21:39] enter space as an actor with much lower
[00:21:43] entry costs than what was feasible 10 years ago. The applications
[00:21:46] are numerous for us. First of all, in low-orbit satellites,
[00:21:50] it's about enabling resilience for all telecommunication coverage for white
[00:21:54] zones. So instead of having classic terrestrial networks with
[00:21:57] pylons, this kind of low-orbit satellite
[00:22:01] allows for coverage for a country like ours where the density is low and the area
[00:22:04] is large, which is very important. The second application is actually observation in the
[00:22:08] civilian domain. For us, the most
[00:22:12] protection, forest exploitation,
[00:22:14] and the extension of our mineral resources. So
[00:22:18] quite a few cooperations can be done to allow us to have the data and images that
[00:22:22] enable us to protect one of the important resources of
[00:22:26] Congo and the entire sub-region, the Congo Basin and the forest for which we
[00:22:29] are the guardians to ensure that our
[00:22:33] role as carbon capture guardians is achieved with
[00:22:36] measurable elements, allowing us to tap into funds on the carbon
[00:22:40] markets. The last element is the security element. Satellites also
[00:22:44] play a role in everything related to defense. Now, this is a somewhat
[00:22:48] more opaque element, generally with satellites that are geostationary or in high orbit,
[00:22:52] much, much more expensive to acquire, and therefore are
[00:22:55] today the private domain of countries like China, the United States,
[00:22:59] Russia, etc. For the digital domain, very, very clearly, for us the
[00:23:02] first application is telecom coverage, the second application is
[00:23:06] to support our colleagues in
[00:23:08] forest protection. And
[00:23:12] then the last element is to ensure that in space governance,
[00:23:16] Africa and Congo play a role from the very beginning of this
[00:23:19] transformation that is happening in space. First of all,
[00:23:22] like the topic of artificial intelligence, today there are two topics in
[00:23:26] which technology is evolving very rapidly, space and AI,
[00:23:30] and these are topics where we should not disengage thinking that we are too far to be able to
[00:23:33] participate. The entry costs are very different. Participation in
[00:23:37] research, for us, Congo, we need to think about
[00:23:41] secondary programs, in university research, to
[00:23:44] start integrating, my colleague, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, spoke of collaboration with
[00:23:48] Kazakhstan. Encourage students
[00:23:51] to integrate into science fields that touch space,
[00:23:55] whether it's from satellite design to image
[00:23:58] processing. These are not areas that are far from us because
[00:24:02] we have more concrete problems like electricity and water and so on. We
[00:24:05] must think that this technology can help us even manage and mobilize
[00:24:09] resources on subjects that are very concrete in the country. For the
[00:24:13] development of its space agency, Congo continues its
[00:24:16] collaboration with Kazakhstan, a cooperation
[00:24:19] initiated with this country in 2025. It plans the launch of
[00:24:23] this space agency and its placement in orbit by
[00:24:26] 2028, a project that relies on a public-private
[00:24:29] partnership with the aerospace company
[00:24:32] Garish
[00:24:33] Sapari.
[00:24:38] This is a real launch of the new orbital diplomacy this
[00:24:41] September 10, 2026, at the Grand Palais in Paris.
[00:24:45] The International Space Summit brought together space
[00:24:49] agencies, heads of state, and giants of the private sector.
[00:24:53] The objective is to rewrite the rules of the
[00:24:56] game above our heads in a sector
[00:24:59] in full upheaval. Co-chaired by Germany and
[00:25:02] France, this summit opens under high geopolitical
[00:25:05] tension. Between cyber-attacks, anti-satellite
[00:25:09] weapons, dual-use technology,
[00:25:11] civilian and military, the fear
[00:25:16] over the discussions. From the top of the platform,
[00:25:20] President Emmanuel Macron delivered a landmark speech.
[00:25:25] strategic autonomy, technological sovereignty
[00:25:28] and global regulation of the sector.
[00:25:32] Space is everywhere. It is therefore
[00:25:34] a message of power and dialogue that this summit
[00:25:38] conveys. Lucidity dictates that space
[00:25:42] is no longer a sanctuary.
[00:25:45] Despite the 1967 treaty,
[00:25:48] outer space
[00:25:50] remains the only global common that is not subject
[00:25:54] to regulation commensurate with the challenges.
[00:25:57] Science, like the data that comes from it, cannot
[00:26:01] be the prey of a country or countries.
[00:26:04] The first of the universe confront us with a new physics, exoplanets
[00:26:08] open up the possibility of life emerging elsewhere
[00:26:11] than on Earth, devices like the James Web telescope
[00:26:15] allow us to go back in time, rovers like the one that
[00:26:19] will leave with the MMX mission in a few days offer
[00:26:22] which is why cooperation
[00:26:26] these projects and excellent
[00:26:29] scientific projects, I am thinking among others of the Euclid
[00:26:34] ESA. One fact moved the delegates,
[00:26:37] the exchange with Liss, French President
[00:26:40] Emmanuel Macron spoke live with
[00:26:43] French astronaut Sophie Adenout,
[00:26:46] currently on mission aboard the International
[00:26:49] Space Station. Sophie, we will have to leave you, do you
[00:26:53] have a last word to say to everyone? This mission was a dream
[00:26:57] of exploration and finally it became a formidable
[00:27:00] lesson in humanity with a single objective on the planet
[00:27:04] but also unique exchanges I had throughout the mission
[00:27:07] and this one will be part of it, thank you in any case
[00:27:11] and I look forward to seeing you all when I have to do it.
[00:27:14] This summit, which brought together delegations from 90
[00:27:17] countries and nearly 1100 companies,
[00:27:21] concluded with a mobilization of the ecosystem
[00:27:24] with more than 50 projects signed and 20 billion euros
[00:27:28] in financial commitments. During the week
[00:27:31] of negotiations, will the great powers succeed in signing
[00:27:34] in outer space?
[00:27:38] In any case, the discussions promise to be tough and
[00:27:42] the final declaration expected at the end of the week
[00:27:46] for the future
[00:27:47] of international cooperation.
[00:27:51] Space has already entered our lives, these are the satellites
[00:27:55] in orbit around the Earth that allow
[00:27:58] on it, to observe it and to
[00:28:02] communicate. They are also indispensable for the deployment
[00:28:05] of connected objects, autonomous vehicles, telemedicine,
[00:28:08] maritime transport
[00:28:12] défense du territoire,
[00:28:15] Africa in this summit which aims, among
[00:28:18] other things, to promote a direct dialogue as well as visions.