TELECONGO — broadcast 20261012 073000 UTC 440 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] an unfaithful couple pro max, that's it, forgive me, I didn't say it, [00:00:03] it's just that the facts are proven. So, [00:00:07] tell us everything, Runda, you've heard about this story? Well, [00:00:11] yeah, it's already hot on social media right [00:00:15] now. It's hot, we're witnessing the 2nd season [00:00:18] of Balthazar, but Balthazar in faith, Balthazar in the house [00:00:22] of God. So this pastor is Balthazar number 2, because he had [00:00:26] relationships with more than 20 women in his church. [00:00:38] He also had relationships with these women. So what happened? Well, [00:00:42] continue. So instead of stopping, he brother, what nationalist is he? This is an important detail for [00:00:44] us. Yeah, he's Ivorian. He's Ivorian, he lives in France, we [00:00:48] assume. His church is in France, in France, yes, yes, his ministry is in [00:00:51] France. He was also removed from his duties [00:00:55] because of it. It exploded into [00:00:57] allowed himself to take revenge in public view on a Sunday. In the middle [00:01:00] of the service, a furious husband went [00:01:04] the problem to the elders of to the church, he burst in all upset, accusing the [00:01:07] pastor of having relationships with his wife. Wait, wait, wait, [00:01:11] relationships, [00:01:13] intimate relationships with certain women of verses to say that the of having had [00:01:16] ideal would have been to gather the elders of intimate, intimate relationships [00:01:19] with his wife, with his wife. Because there can be friendly [00:01:22] relationships, family relationships. [00:01:25] Here, we're talking about intimate, intimate relationships, squarely with his [00:01:29] wife who prays in the same church. So he [00:01:31] arrived, [00:01:34] it, I think I will expose the situation to the members of all upset, which is totally normal. At first, people [00:01:38] thought maybe it was defamation. Did the [00:01:41] gentleman show his evidence? Oh yes, he came [00:01:44] well-equipped with his evidence because he couldn't just accuse him [00:01:47] like that. It went wild. What evidence? Messages, videos. Yes, [00:01:51] yes, appointments. But she also confessed to her husband [00:01:55] that, well, if you've already been caught, why deny it? He already had messages, [00:01:59] so she had to admit and acknowledge [00:02:02] the facts. And through that, we thought it was just a sister from the church, [00:02:06] but after the matter became public, [00:02:09] others, feeling it, denounced themselves, [00:02:12] by other husbands started coming forward. So we [00:02:15] ended up with more than [00:02:19] 20 women from the church, married women, married [00:02:23] yes, married, single. So all that [00:02:27] change in the system of thought. What brings even outside the church. It's really wow. [00:02:32] Breathe a little because you'll be even [00:02:35] the pastor makes advances to you, you look at him, he more surprised. While the the Internet users, so on the web, [00:02:38] uh, demanded justice for the wife, his wife, so the [00:02:42] gentleman's wife, oh, the poor lady, how to live with a husband [00:02:45] who stabs you in the back like that, by having [00:02:48] intimate relationships with the church members. It must [00:02:52] be horrible for this poor lady to live with [00:02:56] this story. And you know, the gentleman didn't want to fall alone, Gutel, and [00:03:01] he also revealed his wife's secret, because the pastor also , what did he do? His [00:03:05] wife was also unfaithful. So it's a couple. The gentleman [00:03:09] cheats, cheats, but they live [00:03:12] together. They are married. Each one does their [00:03:15] own thing. That's it. So they are an open couple, in [00:03:19] a way. So you can go. The wife also, nationality? Yes, you can [00:03:23] go and do your part of gen. [00:03:25] Well, there you go. It's allowed. [00:03:30] So the wife, since the gentleman came [00:03:34] to apologize publicly, he acknowledged the facts, and [00:03:37] uh, they excommunicated him, certainly, from the [00:03:41] He was a great servant of community. Yes, and what further angers [00:03:44] Internet users is that the gentleman's [00:03:47] preaching was mostly about the sins of the [00:03:51] flesh, about fornication. In any case, he really [00:03:55] took the time to preach about [00:03:57] uh, his name is not that, saying, no, you must preserve yourselves. He himself established the rules in [00:04:00] his church. So if you are weak, well, you can't see each other as a couple, as is done in most [00:04:04] of our churches here in Congo. You cannot [00:04:08] skip this step until you are married. There [00:04:12] were really strict rules that needed to be followed. A wandering pastor. When we talk [00:04:16] about men of God, I often try to hold back, but frankly, uh, the one [00:04:19] who denies himself, well, we who are watching won't be ashamed. In your [00:04:23] opinion, René, what is shocking about this story? He's a man, he remains a [00:04:27] man, even if he's a pastor, he remains human. What is shocking? What hurts the most [00:04:31] is that as a servant of God, he is supposed to [00:04:34] guide, edify, win souls, but also [00:04:37] set an example. The problem is he finds himself [00:04:40] in infidelity. That's [00:04:43] wandering. [00:04:46] Not only that, I think it's a form of adultery, the act of having [00:04:50] relationships with married women from his church, and it's shocking. It [00:04:54] really hurts to see a man of God who should be serving as a temple, [00:04:57] yet he finds himself in situations that are [00:05:01] not normal at all. Frankly, it's [00:05:04] deplorable. And where it hurts even more is that the wife [00:05:08] also, at one point, cheated. She cheated continuously. [00:05:11] This was during a [00:05:15] period. Uh, the lady, [00:05:17] uh, according to the lady's explanation, [00:05:21] she had cheated on her husband after discovering [00:05:24] that the gentleman was having another [00:05:27] relationship. That had deeply hurt her, which led her to [00:05:31] that, to also be adulterous. But afterwards, she had pulled herself together, and since then, she [00:05:35] swore never to cheat again. No, as [00:05:39] she had cheated, he forgot that it was he who had started it, right? That's it. [00:05:46] So it was his wife's betrayal that shocked him the most. [00:05:49] It shocked him the most, pushed him to [00:05:54] said, no, my wife cheated on me. No, it was [00:05:58] adultery already, you shouldn't continue, it's said, because [00:06:01] of that betrayal that came from his wife. That's it. He could [00:06:05] have, he could have continued with, it's not a reason. He shouldn't have [00:06:10] that way. If he wasn't supposed to keep, [00:06:13] uh, keep this woman, he would have perhaps exposed [00:06:17] the church. [00:06:21] to that, he allowed himself to have [00:06:25] the church. But I think that the [00:06:29] the church. [00:06:32] Trying with me. I want to know if the wife cheated on her [00:06:36] husband with a church member too, or with a person. She said [00:06:39] it wasn't [00:07:06] does God approve of your life? And you don't [00:07:08] realize that when you are sons or daughters who lead dirty lives, you [00:07:12] open doors in your father's life. Sometimes we complain about having [00:07:16] hypocritical Christians, but they were begotten by someone. And it's very possible [00:07:20] that some leaders, some officials, are the cause of the hypocrisy of [00:07:24] some members of their department, because they don't see sincerity in the life of the [00:07:27] official. We are a generation where even if you don't say [00:07:30] it, many young people, you are like perverts in thought. When God allows us [00:07:34] to address this kind of topic, it's to work on a [00:07:40] joy to my heart is knowing that my life is pleasant. But we [00:07:43] have a generation of Christians, you agree to have servants, and [00:07:47] God [00:07:48] exalts you. [00:07:52] Among about twenty women with whom Pastor Axel [00:07:55] Lévis had relationships, both inside and [00:07:58] outside the church, you have Pastor Débora [00:08:02] Christo, with the exception of Naomi, whom we already [00:08:05] know. Pastor Débora Christo is a married woman who [00:08:08] serves in the church, alongside her husband, and... imagine [00:08:12] that their marriage was blessed by that same pastor, Pastor [00:08:16] Axel Lévi. When you see this poster that was published [00:08:20] on Pastor Débora Christo's page, you have [00:08:23] here, on the other side, the Lévi couple, and here you [00:08:26] have Kristo, a couple of pastors. Meanwhile, this [00:08:30] Pastor Axel is dating Debora [00:08:33] Christo. Because when you see this, you say to yourself, are [00:08:37] we going to church or are we going to a nightclub? [00:08:41] Debora was described as [00:08:44] mistress number one of Pastor Axel Levis. She [00:08:47] is, in a way, the assistant pastor alongside Pastor Axel in his [00:08:51] church, mission disciple maker. Also, you haven't [00:08:55] healed certain wounds, that's your state, [00:08:59] that's what I represent. But what does the [00:09:03] Bible say? [00:09:07] Axel Lévi, you who say that all those who have perceived [00:09:10] tattoos come in. It's you now, we [00:09:14] come like that in the middle of the service because you're fooling around with all the [00:09:17] sisters in the church, you're cheating on your wife, you're hitting your [00:09:21] wife, you're paying with [00:09:22] pepper. [00:09:28] You too, help yourselves, help [00:09:31] yourselves. After that, when we say we want to go to churches, you'll [00:09:35] say, oh no, don't mix up the [00:09:37] pastors. [00:09:40] You see me, you see me when I came [00:09:44] to speak, oh, why are you speaking there? You are in [00:09:47] sin. And the hands of Jehovah, I [00:09:50] raised the hands of Jehovah, I raised. [00:09:53] Pastor Lévi, you, you see, I [00:09:57] saw your sermon that made me want to listen to you. Now, [00:10:08] images. Pastor Axel, I remembered the original name. [00:10:22] In fact, it would have been just one person. [00:10:55] him, or rather it was him who perhaps used his religious authority [00:10:58] or his position as a religious leader to potentially seduce [00:11:02] these women. Is it right to proceed like that if it was done [00:11:06] in this way? For me, the fault is shared. I'll start with the [00:11:10] women, because the women actually, it's up to them to [00:11:13] refuse a man's advances. But if they ended up in some [00:11:17] room with the man of God, it's because they wanted it. They could have told [00:11:21] their complaints, denounced the facts to the officials, [00:11:25] or to their husband, saying, "Look, I have [00:11:28] the pastor." But they preferred to keep it a secret, they gave in. [00:11:31] So, but if the pastor used biblical [00:11:36] the pastor is holy, he is anointed, if you come [00:11:40] with me, you are supposed to bring the person to reason. As long as he is a man of God, [00:11:44] the fact that he makes advances to you, you should simply, [00:11:46] if you are a married man of God, you should first be aware [00:11:50] that you are a servant of God. You cannot allow yourself to make advances to me, and furthermore, [00:11:54] I am a married woman, it is not worthy. And if you continue to do [00:11:59] the church. And I think that if you have this reaction, there will be [00:12:03] and he will simply, if the first victim refused, the [00:12:07] second, the third, I believe he could have stopped. But well, they were [00:12:10] they were, but the whole Bible, how can you find verses that will [00:12:14] convince you to go? Things happen in [00:12:16] churches. [00:12:19] Like you, church is complicated. The holy book, that's complicated. Some [00:12:21] use it badly. Yes. [00:12:35] What should a woman do who is a victim of abuse [00:12:38] of spiritual authority? She was abused [00:12:41] by a man of the church. What should she do? Denounce it. [00:12:45] Yes, to the police. Yes. [00:12:49] It's a rape, so we denounce it so that he is punished. But [00:12:53] if you are harassed at home, [00:12:55] if you were seduced, you were seduced, ah, the reasons why [00:13:00] pleases you. This is a man, a [00:13:04] man of God who is married, he is [00:13:05] supposed to, you too, and married women [00:13:09] too. That means the B, we could allow ourselves to say [00:13:13] that they perhaps lived in the place of my pastor, because we saw the couple [00:13:16] and everything, they wanted to be in his place. You're already married in the morning, you're married to a pastor, if [00:13:20] you still want to give yourself to another pastor. Thank you very much. What [00:13:23] message would you like to give to women who fall into the trap [00:13:27] of pastors, who allow themselves to be seduced by pastors, also to [00:13:30] women who, in view of the number of infidelities [00:13:34] of their husbands, also find themselves in situations of infidelity? You see, there are [00:13:38] women who, because "my husband cheated on me, he cheats on me so much, I want to [00:13:41] let off steam, well, I'm going to look elsewhere too." What can we say to these [00:13:44] women? I think it's not normal. As soon as you realize [00:13:48] that your partner is cheating on you, it is not worthy of a woman to go [00:13:51] and have intimate relationships with other men. And I think it's not [00:13:55] serious for a woman. A woman, no matter the [00:13:58] number, if you think you're not comfortable, you're free to leave, [00:14:02] you're free to legalize, [00:14:04] simply, instead of allowing yourself to have relationships with [00:14:08] infidelity. Married, that soils her, in fact, it soils the [00:14:11] woman more than the man. He can cheat, he is [00:14:15] still in his position, but a married woman who cheats is like impurity [00:14:19] on herself, and it's not pleasant at all. So what should [00:14:22] you do when you have been abused or? [00:14:25] What should we say to women who allow themselves to be [00:14:28] seduced by men of the church? Uh, he's not a [00:14:31] man of God. She can't say he's a man of God, no, no, no, he's a man of the church, a [00:14:35] man of God. But well, listen, if, when [00:14:39] you're a woman, you find yourself in this kind of situation, you generally know how to deal with [00:14:43] it. I say women know how, it's because she wanted to. Yes, [00:14:46] the pastor perhaps, at a [00:14:49] certain level, that's why she wanted to accept. But you know very well that it's not good, [00:14:53] especially when it's a man of God who is... married, he has a wife. If he is still [00:14:57] single, you can allow yourself to [00:15:00] think that he will marry you and all that. But it still [00:15:03] remains, do not contribute to his sin, because he is a man of God, he was [00:15:06] consecrated, he has his own things. But from the moment you go [00:15:10] and contribute to his sin by doing the same thing as him, oh, I assure you it's [00:15:14] very bad. So stay firm, do not give in [00:15:17] to the advances of these married men of God. [00:15:20] And you have a choice. Are you obliged to pray even in? You can simply change churches. [00:15:24] If it persists, change churches. If it reaches another level, [00:15:28] denounce, denounce. Talk about it. When a pastor stops [00:15:31] you, talk about it to your spouse, to your partner. If you don't want to go to court, you can [00:15:35] denounce him to his superiors. Exactly. There you [00:15:38] go. Exactly, with wisdom, without denigrating him, because if he is a true man of [00:15:42] God, it can happen that a man of God falls. It can happen. We can't say they are [00:15:45] saints. If it had been only one woman, I could understand. But up to [00:15:49] 20 married women? Oh, no, there's exaggeration [00:15:52] too. When we go to church, we don't, we don't, in fact, we don't covet the [00:15:56] pastor. The pastor is a man we should look at with human eyes, like, oh, he has nice [00:16:00] legs, oh, he has a nice chest. No, no, we don't go to church for that. When we go to [00:16:04] church, we listen to what the pastor says, we close our [00:16:07] eyes. When we have finished listening to what he says, we take our [00:16:25] in the presidential election in the first round with [00:16:29] Flavio Bolsonaro leading. [00:16:33] tête [00:16:54] Pastor Balthazar, no, don't glorify, don't even [00:16:57] give him that name. Pastor Balthazar flirted with women. Hmm, he [00:17:01] was with his mouth, [00:17:05] with his argument. He convinced the women, he [00:17:08] did what he could, and that's someone who has [00:17:11] authority who abuses that authority, and [00:17:14] married women who do not respect the principle of marriage. That is, [00:17:18] there are people today uh, finally, these [00:17:21] are, especially the pastors, and you haven't talked about these things [00:17:25] here, we see them everywhere. Pastors have become [00:17:29] thought leaders for people. That is, you are in a family, [00:17:33] in a couple, in a home, and it is the pastor who has the [00:17:36] last word on this. Because if you get to that point, you [00:17:40] have let your private life be governed by the [00:17:43] pastor, we are human. When someone has some kind of ascendancy over [00:17:47] you, over your own [00:17:58] about the presidential election. [00:18:01] The first round with Fabio Bolsonaro in [00:18:04] the lead. The two will face each other just for the second [00:18:08] round. Having come out on top in the presidential election, the conservative [00:18:11] candidate Flavio Bolsonaro, son of the former [00:18:13] president, uh, Bolsonaro in prison today, will face the [00:18:17] outgoing president Lula, the former [00:18:20] Lula, on October 25th. The first [00:18:24] round holds a surprise, a big surprise, I would say, for [00:18:28] Sander, and the conservative candidate is well on his way to [00:18:31] becoming president. How [00:18:34] to understand this reversal of the situation? [00:18:38] The first, so before saying a word about that, I wanted to first pay tribute to [00:18:41] Mr. Ngongo. Oh yes, [00:18:45] who a few days ago was near the capital [00:18:48] city of Brazzaville, so from the department of Brazzaville, and [00:18:52] uh, who uh, [00:18:55] uh, unfortunately suffered a crisis and during [00:19:00] the inauguration here, he passed away. And uh, I think he [00:19:04] was supposed to have an inauguration today, but it was certainly [00:19:08] uh, postponed, uh, reported in relation to that. We [00:19:11] extend our deepest condolences to his family, to the entire republic, [00:19:15] to the department of Brazzaville. [00:19:19] the state who left us [00:19:22] in full function, in full action for the republic. [00:19:25] And I hope that everything will be done to ensure that his [00:19:29] memory is well celebrated and that [00:19:35] forgotten in the annals of the history of our country. [00:19:40] And that the legacy lives up to what he was. Exactly. In any case, [00:19:44] thank you very much for this tribute. May he rest in peace. That's it. To come back to [00:19:48] Bolsonaro, it's really a surprise because Lula already beat his father, [00:19:52] uh, and his father was all-powerful. Bolsonaro [00:19:56] followed the years of Bolsonaro's power [00:19:59] and Lula, who was a bit [00:20:03] deified in Brazil, so to speak, and [00:20:06] uh, was uh, beaten in the first [00:20:10] round. They went to the 2nd round, Flavio at 47%, Lula at [00:20:13] 45%, and uh, Flavio [00:20:16] Bolsonaro already in the first round had [00:20:19] the the, how do you say, the support of the other [00:20:23] candidates who had between 5.3 and 3 [00:20:27] %, and so all these candidates have already [00:20:30] shown their colors to vote for Flavio [00:20:34] Bolsonaro, and uh, Lula and... [00:20:37] Vioux are people who have been in politics, so there are always [00:20:41] controversies around their [00:20:44] persons, but there is [00:20:47] today a kind of division emerging [00:20:51] in Brazil. There are the state [00:20:53] uh, that takes care of the most [00:20:57] vulnerable, that deals with the means [00:21:00] and there is Bolsonaro who comes with a spirit like his [00:21:04] father, a little less state, a little more authority. [00:21:08] So that's roughly uh, uh, what [00:21:11] divides these two candidates. We know that in [00:21:14] Brazil, the evangelical vote matters [00:21:18] enormously, as it's a small [00:21:20] extremely Christian country. And these evangelicals are a [00:21:24] bit for Bolsonaro [00:21:26] because of homosexual marriage, things like [00:21:30] that, which makes it work. So in South America, or [00:21:34] America today, we are going through, or America is [00:21:38] going through a phenomenon, that of Trumpism. That is, [00:21:41] the new president who claims a bit to be like Donald Trump [00:21:45] has the Argentine [00:21:47] president, has Colombia. So all these countries are countries that [00:21:51] want to do a bit of Trumpism. And Brazil [00:21:54] was the last touch that Donald Trump wanted to have and [00:21:58] couldn't get. So Brazil is also an important element [00:22:01] in the global economic landscape, because Brazil has [00:22:05] uh, oil. Brazil has rare [00:22:09] earths, and you know that rare earths are extremely sought after by [00:22:12] Americans, given the fact that they have had a huge delay compared to [00:22:16] the Chinese in this matter. It should be remembered that rare earths allow [00:22:20] to do everything related to technology, electronic [00:22:22] chips, etc. They are uh, of course, and [00:22:26] very, they want to capture this wealth. [00:22:29] And so the second round which will take place on October [00:22:32] 25th will hold many surprises for us, to see who [00:22:36] will truly take the lead [00:22:50] the influences at play in this presidential election, because what [00:22:54] is happening is very important with the reversal of this situation. The former [00:22:58] president Lula, who had returned, and now who seems to be leaving, [00:23:01] because Lula dominated Brazilian political life [00:23:05] with an almost extreme-left [00:23:08] ideology. And uh, everything that was a bit in the center [00:23:12] couldn't compete with him. It was when Bolsonaro [00:23:15] arrived, it's true that he didn't beat Jair, he didn't beat Lula, but [00:23:19] he beat Dilma Rousseff, he took power. [00:23:22] And so today you have this division between the extreme [00:23:25] right and the extreme, well, that doesn't exist, so we're in [00:23:28] the extremes on the [00:23:32] sides, and I would say the personalities, because Flavio is a senator, [00:23:35] Lula is a Lula [00:23:38] is a demigod in Brazil. So somewhere, uh, it's [00:23:42] this fracture that, of course, between the future and the [00:23:45] present, which, of course, is playing out. So Lula, [00:23:49] with Bolsonaro, his record of fighting [00:23:53] deforestation, better distribution [00:23:55] of wealth, and the acid fight against [00:23:59] uh, poverty. And Bolsonaro, [00:24:02] in his program, it's the fight against [00:24:05] violence, the castration of rapists because he says that every rapist must [00:24:09] be castrated and the opening of the economy [00:24:12] less damage, I said and [00:24:15] of course a support, uh, less in a [00:24:19] certain measure, to public companies which contributed to [00:24:22] bringing one back to power with the Brazilian oil company Petrobras. So [00:24:25] uh, he also [00:24:29] simply takes these Christian values there. So [00:24:32] between all that, there is also the struggle for influence. [00:24:36] Now, what direction will Brazil [00:24:40] take? Will Brazil be pro-China like [00:24:44] with Lula? Because with Lula, China and Brazil [00:24:47] were working for de-dollarization. The world [00:24:50] economy, that is to say today, purchases and the economy, half [00:24:53] of the world economy revolves around gas and oil [00:24:57] and all oil purchases are made in dollars and what the Chinese wanted [00:25:00] was that we no longer buy oil in dollars when we [00:25:03] buy perhaps in local currency or a specific [00:25:06] currency that the BRICS will create [00:25:09] and in power, it will be this project that [00:25:13] will be strengthened but if we [00:25:16] gain power, Bolsonaro will return, some of [00:25:20] them with, of course, a significant influence from [00:25:23] Trump. So [00:25:26] here, between the candidates, there is a problem of legacy [00:25:30] that arises. Lula knows everything he is, we know what he [00:25:33] does, but Lula has not been able to have heirs, which means he is [00:25:37] sometimes like a phoenix that always returns and he was [00:25:40] forced to return to power after he had left [00:25:44] power to Dilma Rousseff and Dilma Rousseff was [00:25:47] accused of manipulating public accounts. [00:25:50] She couldn't really hold on and she was defeated. Lula, who had [00:25:54] contracted cancer and was in [00:25:57] prison, had to get out of prison, be cured of his cancer to return to [00:26:01] affairs again. An election on Bolsonaro's side, it's [00:26:04] different, practically all the Bolsonaros are well placed in the [00:26:08] political landscape, [00:26:11] many are senators, many are representatives, many are governors and [00:26:14] so on, instead of Jair, today [00:26:18] Flavio is already competing with and surpassing Lula in [00:26:21] the polls, that proves that they at least have been able to [00:26:25] build the legacy that instead [00:26:28] of his father, someone is there. [00:26:32] And so the ideology, the ideology [00:26:36] of Bolsonaro after Bolsonaro is already [00:26:39] starting to live better and Lula's ideology [00:26:42] existed after Lula, so [00:26:46] it's a bit of a legacy that's being made there, they will face each other on [00:26:49] October 25th for the second [00:26:52] round, it's about the presidential election in Brazil, that's what [00:27:07] A crowd bath for the president [00:27:09] in his political stronghold of Campo, that's where it all [00:27:13] began in the 70s for the former metalworker, who became a historic [00:27:17] leader of the Brazilian left, I am the [00:27:19] first president of the republic to have been elected three times, there is no [00:27:23] one else like me in the history of this country, many people [00:27:27] wonder why he wants a new term? [00:27:29] Relying [00:27:32] on favorable growth and an [00:27:42] historically low level, the 80-year-old [00:27:45] outgoing president launches his 7th and last presidential campaign, [00:27:49] focused this time on Brazil's sovereignty in a context of increasing [00:27:52] tension with [00:27:53] Washington. [00:27:57] His right-wing rival Flavio Bolsonaro is supported by Donald Trump [00:28:00] and for the first time, the Brazilian president. [00:28:04] The 45-year-old senator, son of former far-right president Jair [00:28:07] Bolsonaro, was launched into the deep end of the campaign after his father's incarceration, [00:28:11] however.