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[00:00:20] Hello, how are you? Ukraine despite having the support of
[00:00:24] European factories and with NATO's software, which are also
[00:00:27] widely integrated into the war effort
[00:00:31] of Kiev, are losing ground to Russia.
[00:00:34] On top of that, they decide to attack an Iranian vessel in the Caspian
[00:00:37] Sea. What does this movement represent to try
[00:00:41] to amplify the conflict? Today
[00:00:59] map, to go over key data, what exactly happened with the
[00:01:03] attack on this Iranian
[00:01:04] than in the context of merchant vessel, we are going to display our world map and we are going to
[00:01:08] identify with the colors of its flag, on one side Ukraine, but on
[00:01:11] the other side the Islamic Republic of Iran. We focus on a date
[00:01:15] of July 25th. Kiev attacked on that date, which resulted in
[00:01:18] injuries. Ukrainian authorities have defended
[00:01:21] that said routes were transporting military supplies for Russia, however,
[00:01:25] in a direct call with his Iranian counterpart, the Ukrainian Foreign
[00:01:29] Minister argued that the specific damage to the commercial
[00:01:32] vessel was unintentional and
[00:01:35] army with the result of an operational error and that Ukraine was not
[00:01:38] seeking to open a new formal war front against Iran. The Iranian
[00:01:41] Foreign Minister, Abasarachi, described this
[00:01:45] aggression as a criminal and provocative act, as well as a
[00:01:48] flagrant violation of the United Nations Charter, ensuring that the
[00:01:52] vessel was on a purely commercial route, transporting iron and steel,
[00:01:56] although he suspended plans to bomb Ukrainian targets
[00:01:59] upon receiving explanations that Iran insists, however, on full
[00:02:03] reparations for material and human damages, warning that it will
[00:02:07] not allow such acts to go unpunished, since the
[00:02:10] Tehran government maintains its neutrality in the
[00:02:13] conflict with the Ukrainian
[00:02:46] attempt to expand a conflict while another front is being lost
[00:02:50] against Russia? Does the involvement of Ukraine in this war
[00:02:54] unleashed by the United States and
[00:02:57] Israel against Iran make sense?
[00:03:01] Zelensky tries to be, perhaps,
[00:03:04] to Turkey that it is the to place his government in the position of the country
[00:03:07] that obeys the mandates and
[00:03:10] wishes of Donald Trump's government
[00:03:13] and also of the Zionist agenda, right? We have to keep that very
[00:03:17] much in mind, and they have tried with this attack that
[00:03:20] for the first time puts the Caspian Sea
[00:03:23] in the zone of influence,
[00:03:26] linking two major conflicts for the first time.
[00:03:30] On one side, what is the NATO conflict
[00:03:34] against the Russian Federation, which until this moment,
[00:03:37] at a maritime level, had been carried out in the Black Sea, in the Sea of
[00:03:41] Azov, with that other great conflict
[00:03:44] where Anglo-Zionism is
[00:03:47] attacking, such as the Red Sea, the Persian Gulf,
[00:03:50] but until this moment the Caspian Sea had
[00:03:54] nothing to do with all this, some consider
[00:03:57] conflicts among them, the way in it an internal lake, it is a maritime space
[00:04:00] that involves the borders of five
[00:04:03] countries and that evidently the government of
[00:04:06] Ukraine has tried to measure the forces of the alliances
[00:04:11] first advances in what and the response of the Islamic Republic was
[00:04:13] forceful, they did not accept any type
[00:04:17] of aggression, much less unilateral, much
[00:04:20] less without Ukraine taking responsibility until Iran
[00:04:24] detected where those aggressions had come
[00:04:27] from, and the interesting thing
[00:04:31] is that Ukraine had to apologize as if it had been
[00:04:35] some kind of military miscalculation
[00:04:38] to attack this commercial
[00:04:42] vessel, to which the Iranian response a few
[00:04:45] hours ago was that if they had not apologized,
[00:04:48] the Iranian response a few hours ago was
[00:04:52] that if they had not apologized, the
[00:04:56] Islamic Republic had already identified
[00:05:00] three different targets in Ukrainian
[00:05:02] territory to attack, which
[00:05:05] ended, I think, once and for all,
[00:05:08] to reunify this conflict zone that each... each
[00:05:12] time is more widespread. When you
[00:05:14] say that they had already identified some targets in Ukraine under the principle of
[00:05:18] legitimate defense, also backed by the United Nations Charter, what would
[00:05:22] be that impact if it is really about dragging or unifying or
[00:05:26] merging, whatever the term, these two conflicts, the one that breaks out in
[00:05:29] Eastern Europe and what could impact these regions, not only
[00:05:33] Eurasia, but also Asia Pacific and the rest of the planet,
[00:05:37] because the economic impact would be one of the first, perhaps and the
[00:05:41] most evident.
[00:05:44] Yes, the feeling is that alliances are still trying to
[00:05:47] be reconfigured and at the same
[00:05:50] time trying to see to what extent the
[00:05:54] reliability of political structures is
[00:05:57] working, and in that sense in the last
[00:06:01] hours or days we have seen for example for the first
[00:06:04] time a joint attack with F35
[00:06:07] planes by the United
[00:06:10] States and Saudi Arabia against Iraqi
[00:06:13] territory, no more no less
[00:06:17] the great Arba'in procession where millions of people
[00:06:20] walk, especially the Shiite Muslims
[00:06:24] to what is Ayatollah Khamenei, and
[00:06:28] that show a desperation to
[00:06:31] try to block this level of alliances
[00:06:35] that is growing in Western Asia and the great surprise in
[00:06:39] this sense, Paola, is that a country
[00:06:42] of NATO, such as Turkey,
[00:06:46] is strengthening, I would say
[00:06:48] at a very fast
[00:06:51] pace, the diplomatic level with the
[00:06:54] Islamic Republic of Iran, something that until relatively
[00:06:57] recently, two years ago, seemed impossible,
[00:07:00] because Iran and Turkey faced each other in the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic,
[00:07:04] Turkey as the country
[00:07:08] that, at least from its borders,
[00:07:12] allowed those terrorist groups that sought to destabilize
[00:07:15] Bashar Al-Assad's government to enter, we are talking about ISIS,
[00:07:19] Jabhat al-Nusra, Daesh or whatever you want to call them, and on the other
[00:07:23] side Iran supporting Bashar Al-Assad's government, even with a great
[00:07:27] work by the martyr Qassem Soleimani
[00:07:31] confronting these groups. Once that
[00:07:33] conflict ended, beyond the political results where
[00:07:37] there are winners and losers, Iran and
[00:07:40] Turkey resume dialogue. Just as they managed to
[00:07:43] establish in the Treaty of Erzurum of
[00:07:46] 1823 some already
[00:07:50] defined borders between the two countries, it must be remembered
[00:07:53] that Iran and Turkey have more than 500 km of border, they are
[00:07:56] countries that deserve an alliance, but at the same time they are
[00:07:59] brother countries. Turkey are not Arabs,
[00:08:03] Iran are not Arabs, they are Persians, but
[00:08:06] they share a religion and they share an identity. For
[00:08:10] the first time, the Iranian
[00:08:13] government proposes
[00:08:17] time to start thinking about a regional
[00:08:20] military defense bloc and in this way do without
[00:08:24] those other two great allies they have, which are
[00:08:28] Russia and China to make any type of
[00:08:32] defense. This is no small matter because Turkey itself
[00:08:35] was the one who passed on very important
[00:08:38] information about the Kurdish
[00:08:41] uprisings in Iraq that were trying to be carried
[00:08:45] out to destabilize the
[00:08:47] government of Iran. It must be remembered that the Barzani
[00:08:50] clan in Iraq, who are the families that
[00:08:53] dominate Iraqi Kurdistan, are openly financed
[00:08:57] by Israel and the United States. And then for the first
[00:09:01] time we have a NATO country like
[00:09:04] Turkey, giving very important information to
[00:09:07] Iran, perhaps, its new ally, who are beginning to
[00:09:11] form a bloc in which Turkey, until this moment,
[00:09:14] had always been a kind of great mediator, let's remember that it was
[00:09:18] Turkey that facilitated the
[00:09:23] would be the negotiations between the Russian Federation and
[00:09:27] Ukraine, which allowed the passage
[00:09:29] of ships through the Bosphorus with the Ukrainian
[00:09:33] cereals, but at the same time they are part of NATO,
[00:09:37] in fact in July the last NATO summit was held
[00:09:40] in Ankara. So, well,
[00:09:43] evidently new alliances are still being woven, but the conflict
[00:09:47] goes beyond Western Asia, this also has
[00:09:50] a lot to do with those interests that are also looming, we will deepen the
[00:09:54] analysis when we return from the break because this also has
[00:09:57] an impact within the US's own internal politics
[00:10:01] and also on the role that NATO will play
[00:10:04] later on, it is about promoting this organization despite the
[00:10:07] discontent that the White House itself
[00:10:34] Through the Telesur map scale, we want to share this
[00:10:38] cartoon from our Telesur multiplatform news outlet,
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[00:10:45] a sample of the growing shortage of weaponry of the United
[00:10:49] States armed forces, a reality where the country's military reserves
[00:10:52] are already reaching a limit. The
[00:10:56] Ukrainian government maintains its urgent call to the West, from Kiev
[00:10:59] it insists as a priority on receiving more air defense
[00:11:03] material to face the intensity of the
[00:11:06] conflict, there we see a marine, a soldier who
[00:11:10] says: sir, we understand the shortage of weapons, but
[00:11:14] understand our shame in front of
[00:11:17] the Iranians, and this same panorama is currently reflected in
[00:11:20] Ukraine, they no longer have the Patriot
[00:11:23] missiles in their favor, no, authorization from the.
[00:11:49] When is professional help necessary after a trauma from a
[00:11:53] catastrophe? Of course. From such a terrible
[00:11:56] tragedy, a month later I can be normal,
[00:11:59] remembering what happened, feeling the need to
[00:12:03] talk about it, there are times when I feel bad, but I am
[00:12:06] recovering my routine, I have delayed too much, I need
[00:12:10] help from professionals, get guidance
[00:12:13] healthily with Ay García and his guest, Dr.
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[00:12:17] Peña.
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[00:13:43] the United States, Donald Trump.
[00:13:45] A survey has recently been published, a survey has been
[00:13:49] issued, I say with confidence, that reflects an unfavorable
[00:13:53] trend for his administration,
[00:13:55] with a general approval rating of only
[00:13:59] 35%. Disapproval already exceeds
[00:14:01] 60%. A
[00:14:05] marked partisan polarization where he retains
[00:14:08] majority support among Republicans, but registers sharp drops
[00:14:12] among independents, but also in the Democratic party, driven
[00:14:15] mainly by citizen dissatisfaction with the cost of
[00:14:19] living, inflation, the
[00:14:22] which attacks against the
[00:14:25] Islamic Republic of Iran were restarted.
[00:14:28] To this is added the discontent for continuing to support
[00:14:32] Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, more than
[00:14:35] 24% who joined the idea that he should
[00:14:38] pay for war crimes, a complex panorama
[00:14:41] for the Republican administration which is also discouraging
[00:14:45] and desolate for the Republican wing, which seems unable
[00:14:49] to emerge also amidst an internal criticism
[00:14:52] of a country that is not able to solve
[00:14:55] its situations, but is very focused on continuing to draw
[00:14:58] narratives around Iran, alleged
[00:15:01] agreements, alleged negotiations that are not
[00:15:04] progressing, but also in a war that has not ended and that had
[00:15:08] been a promise of Trump before assuming the second
[00:15:11] mandate, which was to end the conflict in Eastern Europe with the
[00:15:15] Ukrainian crisis. What scenario are we facing?
[00:15:17] Well, there are several
[00:15:21] scenarios at the same time, and the contradictions. Trump himself,
[00:15:25] as you have been pointing out, shows a
[00:15:29] panorama in which the United States has made
[00:15:33] quite shameful decisions on the military
[00:15:36] level. First moving its large aircraft carriers that
[00:15:40] then had to turn around and return
[00:15:43] because they didn't know how they were going to keep them
[00:15:47] afloat in the face of
[00:15:50] the hypersonic and
[00:15:53] ballistic missile responses of the Islamic Republic, and they had
[00:15:56] to take them out of the conflict zone, that is a
[00:15:59] quite shameful action that has just
[00:16:03] happened recently, and what came after is
[00:16:07] evidently
[00:16:10] a disrespect for the agreements that had been
[00:16:14] advancing and a much
[00:16:16] tougher stance at this moment on the part of the Islamic
[00:16:20] Republic, in which they say we are not discussing
[00:16:23] anymore, the dialogue
[00:16:26] respond to the aggressions we suffer.
[00:16:30] From now on we will give a response. The
[00:16:34] Iranian government made it clear in the last hours that simply
[00:16:38] they will be talking with Oman and that from
[00:16:42] then on, navigability
[00:16:45] through the Strait of Hormuz is a reality that they will
[00:16:49] agree on between those two countries. Let's remember that
[00:16:53] before what they call the 40-day war,
[00:16:56] the West navigated through the Strait of Hormuz as
[00:17:00] they pleased, and many of those ships were linked to the very
[00:17:04] Zionist interests, that is over, that will not
[00:17:08] turn back, and just as there was a recovery of the
[00:17:11] territories by the Russian Federation that were historically
[00:17:15] theirs and that were attacked by that
[00:17:18] neo-fascist regime of
[00:17:20] Kiev and that both Lugansk and Donetsk,
[00:17:24] Kherson, Zaporizhzhia and Crimea previously
[00:17:27] experience a new reality, that reality
[00:17:31] also in the Strait of Hormuz will not turn back
[00:17:35] and in that sense evidently.
[00:17:38] the military Keynesianism of the United States that helps keep
[00:17:41] its economy afloat, that
[00:17:44] practically forces NATO countries to spend
[00:17:48] 5% of their GDP to buy from
[00:17:52] them all the weaponry that keeps them afloat does not mean
[00:17:55] that they have created strategies to win a
[00:17:58] war in Western Asia and that becomes more
[00:18:02] evident every day. It is clear
[00:18:06] that the actions
[00:18:09] of the Iranian government have not been able to find a response
[00:18:13] from the United States government that has
[00:18:16] attacked
[00:18:20] the declassification of files to change the
[00:18:23] agenda at that time and today is responding
[00:18:26] practically with the times of what was the
[00:18:30] soccer world cup also during
[00:18:33] the month of October and in that context although they do not
[00:18:36] recognize it. they are dismantling some
[00:18:40] of their military bases, especially in Bahrain, which it must be remembered
[00:18:43] was also an island, but it was part
[00:18:47] of the territory of Iran
[00:18:50] until what was the monarchy of the Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who
[00:18:54] handed it over, we will have to see if at some point Iran
[00:18:57] does not propose to recover that
[00:19:01] territory, just as the Russian Federation has
[00:19:03] recovered Donbass and also the
[00:19:06] dismantling of the Kuwait base, which historically
[00:19:10] had been a kind of bunker
[00:19:12] for the United States army,
[00:19:16] it costs them politically very
[00:19:19] dearly that US soldiers return to
[00:19:22] their country in a coffin, this
[00:19:26] is an issue that evidently Donald
[00:19:29] Trump did not calculate in political terms,
[00:19:32] but it is part of the reality they have to live
[00:19:36] with and all that also converges. in the midst of an
[00:19:38] involvement of this transatlantic northern organization, Sebastián
[00:19:42] already hinted at something in the first block of the map,
[00:19:46] but why so much insistence on its
[00:19:49] active participation, in the end who makes the decisions regarding
[00:19:53] these attacks that now more than ever target
[00:19:56] civilians, Ukraine does it, the United States does it,
[00:20:00] Israel does it, let's analyze why, for that I propose
[00:20:04] Sebastián that we review together our legend.
[00:20:17] The President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, made these statements
[00:20:21] recently referring to this transatlantic
[00:20:23] organization. If Russia had only done
[00:20:27] 10% of what Israel is doing in Gaza, NATO
[00:20:30] would now be at the gates of Moscow. The West has
[00:20:34] taught us that human rights begin and end at the
[00:20:37] limits of Israel's interests.
[00:20:39] And to put it in context,
[00:20:47] y para poner en contexto,
[00:20:50] yesterday, no more no less, the recovery of
[00:20:54] 112 bodies was achieved, 44 of them
[00:20:56] belonging to children, all under 16 years old, after
[00:21:00] more than a thousand days trapped among the rubble due to the bombing of
[00:21:03] Israel on September 22, 2023, their
[00:21:07] families would only now be able to give them a Christian burial or
[00:21:11] make the offerings that their religion allows them in this case in
[00:21:14] Gaza to say goodbye, all of them martyred. That is
[00:21:18] what President Vladimir is referring to.
[00:21:20] Well, but we are also interested in knowing what is behind
[00:21:24] all this involvement, NATO is
[00:21:27] providing software, it is practically commanding operations against
[00:21:30] Russia and Russia
[00:21:33] knows it, but why insist on
[00:21:37] this transatlantic organization or
[00:21:39] what is the final
[00:21:41] objective?
[00:21:45] Well, first, yes, keep in mind
[00:21:48] that... infanticides
[00:21:51] are part of the military projects of
[00:21:55] Anglo-Zionism, let's remember that in that way on
[00:21:59] February 28th they entered Iran
[00:22:03] generating the martyrdom of 168
[00:22:06] girls,
[00:22:08] yes, in
[00:22:10] Donbas
[00:22:12] they have placed for some years now a
[00:22:16] monument called the angels in the city
[00:22:20] of Donetsk for the number of children killed by the Ukrainian
[00:22:25] the backing of NATO, they have as
[00:22:28] a strategy to try
[00:22:31] to demoralize civil society with direct attacks
[00:22:34] on children, and this that you are
[00:22:37] mentioning about Palestine is no small
[00:22:40] matter, it is the way they act
[00:22:44] and that evidently shows an
[00:22:47] antagonistic vision to the
[00:22:51] most basic defense of human rights that must, of course,
[00:22:55] prioritize children, and in
[00:22:59] that sense, I perceive a very
[00:23:02] significant breakdown, first
[00:23:05] because some European countries that are suffering in their
[00:23:09] economies no longer know how to justify
[00:23:12] to their populations
[00:23:15] the level of sanctions they have imposed, for example, on the Russian
[00:23:19] Federation, by no longer buying cheap
[00:23:22] energy such as the gas that was going to enter through the Nord Stream
[00:23:26] 2 pipeline through Germany, and now it is the
[00:23:29] populations themselves that have to bear those
[00:23:33] situations. When Donald Trump tried
[00:23:37] to impose an agenda on them to join the attacks on the Islamic
[00:23:40] Republic, they unanimously told him no,
[00:23:43] so there it begins to be
[00:23:47] perhaps a little clearer that this agenda
[00:23:50] of the Zionist Israel lobby that is imposed
[00:23:53] on the United States army, Europe can also
[00:23:57] perceive it, and in the face of the discontent generated
[00:24:00] by the actions of governments in the
[00:24:03] rear of NATO, well, many governments are
[00:24:07] trying to mark a distancing from all that,
[00:24:10] because ultimately, the Palestinian cause
[00:24:13] has generated, I believe, a level of
[00:24:17] solidarity never before seen, and that today
[00:24:20] can be perceived, that is why many
[00:24:24] leaders, even those created by Western
[00:24:27] interests, such as the monarchies of the Gulf, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait,
[00:24:31] Bahrain, Qatar,
[00:24:34] try to give different messages than those they have been
[00:24:38] handling so far, but there are some like
[00:24:41] Morocco and the United Arab Emirates that already have it
[00:24:45] explicitly through the Abraham Accords with,
[00:24:48] let's say levels of understanding, even military
[00:24:52] level with the Israeli axis, so
[00:24:56] evidently the leaders want to give signals of
[00:24:59] governability to the peoples who sympathize with the Palestinian
[00:25:03] cause, but at the same time the hypocrisy of many of them
[00:25:07] shows a maintenance of
[00:25:10] these attacks that
[00:25:13] put children at permanent
[00:25:16] risk, this also helps us understand
[00:25:20] this whole range, not only of interests, but also what is at
[00:25:23] stake in the midst of these movements that continue to enrich the military-industrial
[00:25:27] complex, but not even the
[00:25:51] Our radar on the map today shows us three key points on this issue: Ukraine
[00:25:54] escalating the war, let's talk about
[00:25:57] fusion, it seems to be Israel's strategy, but also the
[00:26:00] United States', since if the conflicts of Ukraine and Iran were to merge more
[00:26:04] directly, the result could be devastating, there are already several
[00:26:07] governments in the world that are getting involved, and an open war
[00:26:11] in those terms would not only implode
[00:26:14] Eurasia, but also Western Asia and the rest of the world, because its main
[00:26:18] impact would be economic. Two,
[00:26:21] objective: to strengthen its commitments with Ukraine and Israel
[00:26:25] to confront the axis of resistance, such as Iran, with greater
[00:26:28] firmness. What they seek is to expand an American
[00:26:31] coalition under the servility of the European Union to reach their
[00:26:35] central objective, which is China. Three.
[00:26:38] NATO. Western governments continue
[00:26:41] to describe their main role in terms of
[00:26:44] military assistance and we will put it in quotation marks towards Ukraine. However, the
[00:26:48] previous examples suggest that this relationship is becoming
[00:26:51] considerably much more complex. European
[00:26:55] companies participate in the development and manufacture of weaponry.
[00:26:58] Production is being moved outside the borders
[00:27:02] of. and NATO communications standards are being
[00:27:05] increasingly incorporated into Ukrainian command systems, despite this,
[00:27:09] Ukraine's loss of ground is a sign of a
[00:27:12] weakening of this transatlantic organization as well,
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[00:29:21] not only does it speak to us of the premeditated
[00:29:25] disappearance of heritage structures of different
[00:29:28] uses, but also of the affectation of social relations, of
[00:29:31] communities, history also their cultures. We will be
[00:29:35] discussing this in this broadcast.