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[00:00:55] analysis when we return from the [00:01:11] Hello, how are you? Ukraine, despite having the support of European [00:01:15] factories and NATO software, which are also [00:01:18] widely integrated into Kiev's [00:01:21] war effort, are losing ground against Russia [00:01:25] how they were going to be able and on top of that they decide to attack an Iranian vessel in the Caspian [00:01:28] Sea. presents this movement to [00:01:31] try to amplify the conflict. Today we will analyze [00:01:34] these scenarios on the Telesur map, make yourselves comfortable, so [00:01:38] let's begin. [00:01:45] and what [00:01:48] For this reason, we propose to display our map and review key [00:01:51] data. What exactly happened with the attack on this Iranian [00:01:55] merchant vessel? Let's [00:01:58] tougher stance at this moment deploy our world map and identify with the colors of their flag, on one side Ukraine, but on [00:02:02] the other side the Islamic Republic of [00:02:05] dialoguing, dialogue is Iran. We focus on a date, July 25. Kiev [00:02:07] attacked on that date the Iranian merchant ship Ana, anchored about 5 [00:02:11] km from the mouth of the Volga [00:02:14] The Iranian government made it clear River in the Caspian Sea. The impact caused a strong explosion on [00:02:17] no less board, causing severe damage to the ship's structure [00:02:20] and the death of one sailor and another person who was [00:02:23] injured. Ukrainian authorities have claimed [00:02:26] that these routes transported military supplies for Russia. However, [00:02:30] in a direct call with his Iranian counterpart, Ukraine's foreign [00:02:34] minister argued that the specific damage to the [00:02:37] commercial vessel was unintentional and the result of an operational [00:02:40] error and that Ukraine was not seeking to open a new formal [00:02:44] front of war against Iran. Iran's Foreign Minister [00:02:48] Abasarachi described this aggression as a criminal and [00:02:51] provocative act, as well as a blatant violation of the United [00:02:55] Nations Charter, assuring that the vessel was on a purely [00:02:59] commercial route, transporting iron and steel, [00:03:03] army killed with the although he suspended plans to bomb Ukrainian targets to receive explanations from Iran, [00:03:07] he insists, however, on absolute reparations for material [00:03:11] and human damages, warning that he will not allow such [00:03:14] acts to go unpunished that the government of Tehran [00:03:18] maintains its neutrality in the conflict with the Ukrainian [00:03:22] crisis, what is behind these movements, [00:03:25] will they be casual, today we will [00:03:27] analyze it with our guest. [00:03:34] We are joined for the analysis from Argentina by Sebastián Salgado, [00:03:37] geopolitical analyst. It's a pleasure to have you with us [00:03:40] Sebastián, thank you for your time for the Telesur map, how are you? [00:03:43] Hello Paola, a pleasure to greet you again [00:03:47] and be here on the map. What is behind this [00:03:51] attempt to expand a conflict while losing [00:03:55] another front to Russia? Does Ukraine's involvement [00:03:58] under the conditions of make sense in this war unleashed by the United States and [00:04:02] Israel against Iran? [00:04:05] Zelensky tries to be, perhaps, to put his [00:04:09] government in the place of the country [00:04:12] that obeys the mandates [00:04:14] elections, not only the and wishes of Donald Trump's government [00:04:18] and also the Zionist agenda, that must be taken [00:04:22] into account, and they have tried with this attack that [00:04:25] puts for the first time in the Caspian Sea [00:04:28] the area of influence [00:04:31] linking two major conflicts, for the first time, on [00:04:35] one hand what is the NATO conflict [00:04:39] against the Russian Federation that until now [00:04:42] at sea has taken place in the Black Sea, in the Sea of [00:04:46] Azov, with that other great conflict [00:04:49] where Anglo-Zionism has been attacking the [00:04:52] Islamic Republic since last year [00:04:56] with different allies on the part of Iran such as the [00:05:02] among them, the way in resistance movement entrenched in Yemen and so on, and which involved other maritime [00:05:06] spaces such as the Red Sea, the Persian [00:05:09] Gulf, but until now the Caspian Sea had [00:05:12] nothing to do with all this. Some consider it an inland sea. It [00:05:16] is a maritime space that involves [00:05:19] the borders of five countries and [00:05:23] evidently the government of Ukraine has [00:05:26] tried to measure the strengths of the alliances and the [00:05:30] response of the Islamic Republic was forceful, they [00:05:33] did not accept any type of aggression, much less [00:05:37] unilateral, much less without Ukraine taking [00:05:41] responsibility until the moment that Iran detected [00:05:44] where those aggressions had come from, [00:05:47] and the interesting thing is that Ukraine had to come out [00:05:51] and apologize, as if it had been some kind [00:05:55] of military miscalculation [00:05:57] to attack this commercial [00:06:00] vessel, to which the Iranian response a few [00:06:04] hours ago was that if they had not apologized, [00:06:07] the Islamic Republic had already [00:06:10] identified three different targets [00:06:14] in Ukrainian territory to [00:06:16] attack, which would end, [00:06:20] I think once and for all, this conflict [00:06:23] zone that is increasingly wider. When [00:06:27] you say that they had already identified some targets in Ukraine under the principle of [00:06:31] legitimate defense, also backed by the United Nations Charter, what would be [00:06:35] the impact if it really is about dragging or unifying or [00:06:38] merging, so to speak, these two conflicts, the one that breaks out in [00:06:42] Eastern Europe and what could impact these regions, not only [00:06:46] Eurasia, but also Asia Pacific and the rest of the planet, [00:06:50] because the economic impact would be one of the first, perhaps and the [00:06:53] most evident. [00:06:56] Yes, the feeling is that alliances are still trying [00:07:00] to reconfigure and at the same [00:07:03] time try to see to what extent the [00:07:06] reliability of political structures is [00:07:10] working, and in that sense, [00:07:14] in the last few hours or days we have seen, [00:07:17] for example, for the first time a joint [00:07:20] attack with F-35 planes [00:07:23] by the United States and Saudi Arabia [00:07:26] against Iraqi territory, [00:07:30] than in the context of the great Arba'een procession [00:07:33] where millions of people walk, especially Shiite [00:07:37] Muslims, to what is the city [00:07:40] of Karbala where [00:07:43] the remains of the Imam lie. This is no small matter, it is a great provocation, like the attacks that [00:07:47] the United States made during the funerals of Ayatollah Khomeini [00:07:51] and which shows a [00:07:54] desperation to try to block this [00:07:58] level of alliances that is growing in Western [00:08:01] Asia, and the great surprise in this sense, Paula, is [00:08:05] that a NATO country like Turkey [00:08:09] is strengthening, [00:08:12] I would say, at a very fast [00:08:15] pace, diplomatic relations with the [00:08:19] Islamic Republic of Iran, something that until relatively recently, [00:08:22] two years ago, seemed impossible, because [00:08:26] Iran and Turkey were clashing in the territory of the Syrian [00:08:29] Arab Republic. Turkey, as the country [00:08:33] that, at least from its borders, [00:08:37] these terrorist groups entered seeking to destabilize [00:08:40] the government of Bashar al-Assad, we are talking about ISIS, al-Nusra [00:08:44] Front, Daesh or whatever you want to call it, and on the other [00:08:48] side Iran supporting the government of Bashar al-Assad, even with a great [00:08:52] work by the martyr Qassem Soleimani [00:08:55] confronting these groups. After [00:08:58] that conflict ended, beyond the political results where [00:09:02] there are winners and losers, Iran and [00:09:05] Turkey are talking again, just as they were able [00:09:08] to establish in the Treaty of Erzurum of [00:09:11] 1823, defined borders [00:09:14] between the two countries that it is important to remember, Iran and [00:09:17] Turkey have more than 500 km of border, they are [00:09:21] countries that deserve an alliance, but at the same time they are [00:09:24] brotherly countries, Turkey is not Arab, [00:09:28] Iran is not Arab, they are Persian, but they [00:09:31] share a religion and they share an identity. For [00:09:35] the first time, Paola, the Iranian [00:09:38] government proposes to [00:09:40] Turkey that it is time [00:09:42] to start thinking about a military block for regional [00:09:46] defense and in this way do without those [00:09:49] other two great allies they have, which are [00:09:52] Russia and China, to make any type of [00:09:56] defense. This is no small matter because Turkey itself [00:10:00] was the one that passed very important [00:10:03] information about the Kurdish uprisings [00:10:06] in Iraq that were trying to destabilize [00:10:10] the government of Iran. It is important to remember that the Barzani [00:10:14] clan in Iraq, which are the families that [00:10:16] dominate Iraqi Kurdistan, [00:10:20] are openly financed by Israel and the United [00:10:24] States. So we have for the first time a NATO [00:10:27] country like Turkey, giving [00:10:30] very important information to Iran, perhaps its new [00:10:34] ally, that they are beginning to form a block in which [00:10:37] Turkey until now, had always been [00:10:40] a kind of great mediator, let's remember that it was Turkey [00:10:44] that facilitated the first advances [00:10:47] in what would be the negotiations between the Russian [00:10:51] Federation and Ukraine, the ones that allowed the passage [00:10:55] of ships through the Bosphorus with Ukrainian cereals, [00:10:58] but at the same time they are part of NATO, in fact in [00:11:02] July the last NATO summit was held [00:11:04] in Ankara, so well, [00:11:08] obviously new alliances are still being forged, but the [00:11:11] conflict goes beyond Western Asia, this has [00:11:15] a lot to do with those interests that are also looming, we will deepen the [00:11:20] break, because this also has an impact within the domestic [00:11:23] policy of the United States and also the role that [00:11:27] NATO will play later, it is about promoting this [00:11:30] organization despite the discontent that [00:11:33] the White House itself makes clear in the media. What [00:11:37] is behind all these movements? I ask Sebastián Salgado to stay on the line [00:11:41] as well as our viewers, let's take a short break, not [00:11:44] without first sharing our [00:11:46] scale. [00:11:59] Through the Telesur map scale, we want to share this [00:12:02] cartoon from our Telesur multiplatform information [00:12:06] platform, which I invite you to visit, share, and like. [00:12:09] This is a sample of the growing scarcity of weaponry in the [00:12:13] US Armed Forces, a reality where the country's [00:12:17] military reserves are reaching a limit. The [00:12:20] Ukrainian government maintains its urgent call to the West. From Kiev [00:12:24] it insists on urgently receiving more air [00:12:27] defense material to face the intensity of the [00:12:31] conflict. There we see a marine, a military man who [00:12:35] says: Sir, we understand the shortage of weapons, but [00:12:38] understand our shame before [00:12:42] the Iranians, and this same panorama is currently reflected in [00:12:45] Ukraine, they no longer have Patriot missiles [00:12:48] in their favor, there is no authorization or license from the United States [00:12:52] for them to be manufactured within Ukrainian territory. [00:14:42] Let's add another element to the analysis through the photograph. The one [00:14:45] you see in the background is the President of the United States, Donald [00:14:49] Trump. Recently, a [00:14:51] survey was released, a survey was issued [00:14:55] that reflects an unfavorable trend for his [00:14:58] administration, with a general approval rating of only [00:15:02] 35%. Disapproval already [00:15:05] exceeds 60%. A [00:15:09] marked partisan polarization where he retains majority [00:15:13] support among Republicans, but registers sharp drops among [00:15:17] independents, but also among Democrats, driven mainly [00:15:20] by citizen dissatisfaction with the cost of [00:15:23] living, inflation, conflicts [00:15:27] which the attacks against the Islamic [00:15:30] Republic of Iran were restarted. Added [00:15:33] to this is the discontent with continuing to support Israel's Prime [00:15:37] Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, more than 24% who were [00:15:41] added to the idea that he should pay for war [00:15:44] crimes, a complex panorama for the Republican [00:15:47] administration that will also face mid-term [00:15:50] elections in November. [00:15:52] término. [00:15:58] Sebastian, this is a seemingly disheartening, [00:16:01] desolate panorama for the Republican wing, which seems unable [00:16:05] to emerge from internal criticism of a [00:16:08] country that is unable to resolve its [00:16:11] situations, but is very focused on continuing to draw [00:16:14] narratives around Iran, alleged [00:16:18] agreements, alleged negotiations that are not advancing, but [00:16:21] also in a war that has not ended and that had been a promise of [00:16:25] Trump before assuming his second term, which was [00:16:29] to end the conflict in Eastern Europe with the Ukrainian [00:16:32] crisis. What scenario [00:16:34] are we facing? Well, [00:16:38] there are several scenarios at the same time, and Trump's [00:16:42] own contradictions, as you have been pointing out, [00:16:45] show a panorama in which the United [00:16:49] States has made quite shameful decisions in the military [00:16:52] field, first moving its large aircraft carriers that [00:16:56] then had to turn around and [00:16:59] return because they didn't know [00:17:02] to keep them afloat against [00:17:05] the missile responses, both hypersonic [00:17:09] and ballistic, of the Islamic Republic, and they had to [00:17:13] remove them from the conflict zone. That is a quite [00:17:17] shameful action that has just [00:17:20] happened recently, [00:17:22] came after is [00:17:25] evidently a non-compliance with the [00:17:28] agreements that had been progressing, [00:17:32] and a much [00:17:36] on the part of the Islamic Republic. They say: [00:17:39] We are no longer [00:17:42] over. We will respond to the aggressions we suffer. [00:17:46] Based on that, we will be responding. [00:17:52] in the last few hours that they will [00:17:54] simply be talking with Oman, and from then [00:17:58] on, navigability [00:18:01] through the Strait of Hormuz is a reality that they will [00:18:05] agree on between these two countries. Let's think [00:18:09] that before this, which they call the 40-day war, [00:18:13] the West navigated through the Strait of Hormuz [00:18:16] as they pleased, and many of those ships were linked to the very [00:18:20] Zionist interests. That's over, that's not going to [00:18:24] go back, and just as there was a recovery of the [00:18:27] territories by the Russian Federation that historically belonged to [00:18:31] them and that were attacked by that neo-fascist [00:18:35] regime in Kiev, [00:18:38] and that both Luhansk and Donetsk, Kherson, [00:18:41] Zaporizhzhia and Crimea are [00:18:44] previously living a new reality, that reality [00:18:47] also in the Strait of Hormuz will not go back, [00:18:51] and in that sense, evidently [00:18:54] the military Keynesianism of the United States that helps to keep [00:18:58] its economy afloat, which [00:19:01] practically forces NATO countries to spend [00:19:05] 5% of their GDP to buy [00:19:08] all the weaponry from them that keeps them afloat, does not mean [00:19:11] that they have created strategies to win a [00:19:14] war in Western Asia, and that is becoming [00:19:17] more and more evident, it is [00:19:21] clear that [00:19:24] the actions of the Iranian government have not been able [00:19:28] to find a response from the United States government that [00:19:32] has attacked [00:19:36] declassification the archives to change the [00:19:39] agenda at that time, and today it is responding [00:19:43] practically with the timing of what was the [00:19:46] soccer world cup also with the timing of the [00:19:51] mid-term elections as you mentioned, but also the [00:19:55] elections in occupied Palestine, [00:19:58] that is, the elections in Israel during the month [00:20:01] of October, and in that context, although they do not [00:20:04] acknowledge it, they are dismantling [00:20:08] some of their military bases, especially in Bahrain, [00:20:12] which it is important to remember was also an [00:20:15] island, but was part of the territory [00:20:18] of Iran until what was the monarchy of Shah [00:20:22] Reza Pahlavi, which they handed over. It remains to be seen [00:20:25] if at some point Iran [00:20:29] does not propose to recover that territory, just as the Russian Federation has [00:20:33] recovered the Donbas and also the dismantling [00:20:36] of the base of Kuwait, which [00:20:39] historically had been a kind of [00:20:42] bunker for the United States Army. It [00:20:45] costs them politically very dearly for [00:20:49] US soldiers to return to their country [00:20:52] in coffins. This is a matter that [00:20:55] evidently Donald Trump did not calculate in [00:20:59] political timing, but it is part of the reality [00:21:02] they are experiencing, and all of this also converges amidst [00:21:06] the involvement of this transatlantic [00:21:09] organization of the north, Sebastian already told us something in the first [00:21:13] block of the map, but why such [00:21:16] insistence on its active participation, ultimately who makes the [00:21:21] decisions regarding these attacks that today more than ever have [00:21:24] civilians as targets? Ukraine does it, the United [00:21:27] States does it, Israel does it, let's analyze [00:21:31] why. For this, I propose Sebastian, that we review our legend together. [00:21:50] referring to this transatlantic organization, [00:21:54] if Russia had only done 10% of what Israel is [00:21:57] doing in Gaza, NATO would now be at the gates of [00:22:00] Moscow. The West has taught us that human rights [00:22:04] begin and end at the limits of Israel's interests. [00:22:08] Israel. [00:22:16] And to put it in context, Sebastian, just yesterday [00:22:20] and no less, the recovery of 112 bodies was achieved, [00:22:23] 44 of them belonging to children, all [00:22:26] under 16 years old, after more than a thousand days trapped in the [00:22:30] rubble due to Israel's bombing on September 22, [00:22:33] 2023. Their families would only now be able [00:22:37] to give them a Christian burial or make the offerings that their [00:22:41] religion allows, in this case in Gaza to say their last goodbyes, [00:22:44] all of them martyred. That is what President Vladimir [00:22:48] Putin is referring to, but also [00:22:50] we are interested in knowing what is behind all this [00:22:53] involvement, NATO is providing software, it is providing [00:22:57] information practically commanding operations against [00:23:01] Russia and Russia knows it, but why [00:23:04] insist on this transatlantic [00:23:06] organization, or in reality, what is the [00:23:09] ultimate goal? [00:23:13] Well, first, yes, keep in mind Paola, that [00:23:16] infanticides [00:23:20] are part of the military projects of Anglo-Zionism, [00:23:24] let's remember that in that [00:23:26] way on February 28, [00:23:29] they entered Iran [00:23:32] causing the martyrdom of 168 [00:23:35] girls. Yes, in Donbas, [00:23:38] they have [00:23:41] for some years now erected [00:23:44] a monument called The Angels in the city [00:23:48] of Donetsk because of the number of children that the Ukrainian [00:23:53] support of NATO. They have as a [00:23:57] strategy to try to [00:23:59] demoralize civilian society with direct attacks [00:24:03] on children, and what you are [00:24:06] naming about Palestine is no small matter, it is the [00:24:10] way they have of acting and [00:24:14] that evidently shows an antagonistic [00:24:18] vision to the most basic defense of human [00:24:22] rights that must, of course, prioritize [00:24:25] children, and in that sense, [00:24:29] I perceive a very important [00:24:31] breakdown, first because some [00:24:35] European countries that are suffering in their economies no longer [00:24:39] know how to justify to their [00:24:41] populations [00:24:44] the level of sanctions they have imposed, for example, on the Russian [00:24:47] Federation, by stopping buying [00:24:51] cheap energy, such as the gas that was going to enter through the North Stream [00:24:54] 2 pipeline through Germany, and that now it is the [00:24:58] populations themselves who have to assume those [00:25:01] situations. When Donald Trump [00:25:04] tried to impose an agenda on them to join [00:25:08] the attacks on the Islamic Republic unanimously, they told him [00:25:11] no. So there it starts to become [00:25:15] perhaps a little clearer that that agenda of the [00:25:19] Zionist Israeli lobby that they impose on [00:25:22] the United States army, Europe can also [00:25:25] perceive it, and given the discontent generated [00:25:28] by the actions of governments in the rear of NATO, well, [00:25:32] many governments are [00:25:35] trying to distance themselves from all that, [00:25:39] because ultimately, [00:25:42] the Palestinian cause has generated, I believe, a [00:25:46] level of solidarity never before seen and that today [00:25:49] can be seen. That is why many [00:25:52] leaders, even those created by Western interests, such [00:25:56] as the monarchies of the [00:25:59] Gulf, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, [00:26:02] try to send different messages from those they [00:26:06] have been managing until now. But there are some, like [00:26:09] Morocco and the United Arab Emirates, who already have it [00:26:13] explicitly through the Abraham Accords [00:26:17] with, let's say, levels of understanding, even military [00:26:20] level with the Israeli axis, so [00:26:24] evidently the leaders want to send signals of [00:26:27] governability to the peoples who sympathize with the Palestinian [00:26:31] cause, but at the same time, the hypocrisy of many of them [00:26:35] shows a continuation of [00:26:38] these attacks that [00:26:42] put children at risk. [00:26:44] permanent, this also helps us understand this whole [00:26:48] range not only of interests but also what is [00:26:52] at stake amidst these movements that continue to enrich the military [00:26:55] industrial complex, but not even the European but the [00:26:58] American one. Thanks to Sebastián Salgado for his time and valuable insights [00:27:02] that he has shared with our viewers of the map, the program ends and we [00:27:06] do it by reviewing our vectors, [00:27:19] our radar on the map today reflects the three keys on this topic: Ukraine [00:27:23] escalating the war, let's talk about fusion, [00:27:26] it seems to be Israel's strategy, but also the United States', [00:27:29] since if the conflicts in Ukraine and Iran were to merge more directly, the [00:27:33] result could be devastating, there are already several governments in the world that [00:27:37] are getting involved and an open war in those [00:27:40] terms would not only implode Eurasia, but also [00:27:44] West Asia and the rest of the world, because its main impact would be [00:27:47] economic, two, objective: to strengthen [00:27:51] its commitments with Ukraine and Israel to confront the leader of the axis of [00:27:54] resistance, Iran, with greater firmness, what they [00:27:58] seek is to expand an American coalition under the subservience of the [00:28:01] European Union to achieve its central objective, which is [00:28:05] China. Three. NATO: Western governments [00:28:08] continue to describe their main role in [00:28:12] terms of military assistance and we will put it in quotes towards Ukraine. However, [00:28:15] the previous examples suggest that this [00:28:19] relationship is becoming considerably more [00:28:22] complex. European companies participate in the development and manufacture of [00:28:26] weaponry, production is moving outside the [00:28:30] borders of Ukraine and communication standards. NATO [00:28:33] is increasingly incorporated into Ukrainian command systems, despite this, the [00:28:37] loss of ground in Ukraine is a sign of a [00:28:40] weakening of this transatlantic organization and [00:28:44] that is causing despair to the occupant of the White [00:28:47] House. I'm Paola Pérez and we'll see you in another edition of the map.