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[00:00:02] from the port of Mocha
[00:00:35] strait, the Strait of Hormuz analyzes the turn of Uribismo in Colombia through
[00:00:38] the security policy promoted by Abelardo de la
[00:00:41] Espriella, with military operations against the FARC
[00:00:45] dissidents in regions such as Haviare and Catatumbo.
[00:00:48] A hardline strategy that has generated controversy
[00:00:52] due to the victims registered in these operations,
[00:00:56] customs, what we share including minors, and that reopens the debate on
[00:01:00] the human costs of the military response to the
[00:01:11] in the consolidation of a paramilitary state, returning
[00:01:15] to the darkest times of the armed conflict and illegality
[00:01:18] in Colombia. After the earthquake that threatened the country in the
[00:01:23] up all the American military first days of his government, Abelardo de la Espriella
[00:01:26] alliances in the war has advanced in what appears to be his vocation to plunge
[00:01:29] a Colombia that is just recovering from the barbarity in which it had been
[00:01:33] immersed for so many years of Uribismo, into an even more bloody regime,
[00:01:36] where the state has the power to bomb and murder whoever
[00:01:40] it decides to call a guerrilla and paramilitarism to dispossess
[00:01:42] peasants of their land through assassinations. We talk
[00:01:46] about this today, I am Sasi Alejandre, welcome to the other voice.
[00:01:49] bienvenidos y bienvenidas la otra
[00:01:51] voz.
[00:02:05] It was during the campaign that Abelardo spoke of bombing Colombia,
[00:02:09] and now, after taking power, he has not taken even a month
[00:02:12] to start doing so, starting in the first three weeks of government
[00:02:16] with three bombings, one in Catatumbo and two
[00:02:18] in Guaviare, sold as operations to weaken the
[00:02:22] structures of the ELN and the FARC dissidents such
[00:02:26] as the Jorge Suárez block or the Iván Mordisco dissidents,
[00:02:30] but was there really a weakening of these structures with
[00:02:33] the attacks? The reality is that none of the key targets
[00:02:36] of the bombings were confirmed as killed. In fact, if
[00:02:41] the dot on we want to talk about that, there are no official figures of those killed
[00:02:45] and much less of their identities. The first in Catatumbo, a border
[00:02:48] area with Venezuela, according to the Ministry of Defense,
[00:02:52] would have resulted in two deaths, including a 16-year-old
[00:02:56] boy, both branded as alleged members of the ELN. In
[00:03:00] other words, without sufficient proof of having been so,
[00:03:04] people whose identity we, of course, do not know.
[00:03:08] What we do know for sure, however, is that three peasants were seriously
[00:03:11] injured in the bombing, which also caused the forced
[00:03:15] displacement of families from the area. Without ending
[00:03:18] there, the second bombing, now in Guaviare, had an official
[00:03:22] report of 10 killed, classified entirely
[00:03:25] as active combatants. This, of course, without
[00:03:29] proof of having been so.
[00:03:32] I believe without much What was confirmed by forensic
[00:03:33] in the west part of the medicine, however, is that among the killed there were three
[00:03:36] minors, something that the government justified by calling them
[00:03:40] human shields.
[00:03:42] dispute between Western There, the Minister of Defense correctly calls the recruitment of minors a
[00:03:46] war crime, which, thanks to the Special Jurisdiction for
[00:03:49] Peace, an body that Abelardo wants to eliminate, is known
[00:03:53] to have had 18,677 of them between
[00:03:57] 1971 and 2016. But is
[00:04:01] the way to combat the recruitment of minors
[00:04:04] 32% of by killing them? Human rights organizations denounced the massive killing
[00:04:08] of minors in these bombings for having ignored intelligence
[00:04:16] in the West Wing of do not threaten that pointed to their presence at the scene, that is, because they were deliberately killed. But we are not finished,
[00:04:19] the third bombing has been by far the most opaque, but
[00:04:23] also discovered as the most lethal in almost a decade.
[00:04:26] And it is that, although the
[00:04:29] Saudi bombings, claiming that in ministry officially reported eight deaths, unilaterally cataloging them
[00:04:32] this time as terrorists, forensic medicine would deny
[00:04:36] this figure, stating that from that bombing they would have
[00:04:40] received up to 24 bodies, although they
[00:04:42] were mostly disfigured, it was confirmed that there
[00:04:45] would be two minors among the killed, and Abelardo
[00:04:49] says that the gangs they claim to have affected would have
[00:04:53] sustained terror in Colombia, but is that not exactly what
[00:04:56] they intend to establish with these operations as well?
[00:05:00] The truth is that among false figures and opaque
[00:05:05] that relationship, even if
[00:05:05] lamentations, information, the identity of almost all of the killed is not known, and they
[00:05:08] could perfectly be false positives, that is,
[00:05:12] civilians falsely accused of being combatants,
[00:05:16] recalling the recent darkest times of the 7837
[00:05:19] false positives unjustly killed under Uribismo,
[00:05:22] which would seem as if, just like with Uribe, the state
[00:05:25] would be guaranteeing itself the power to kill anyone,
[00:05:29] without any proof of being a guerrilla, but only under
[00:05:33] the vague accusation of being one. Where does this leave
[00:05:36] us in a climate where Abelardo himself accuses all militants
[00:05:40] and voters of the Historical Pact of being guerrillas?
[00:05:44] And that's not all, speaking of the peasant population,
[00:05:48] to whom Abelardo claims to have brought justice for the
[00:05:52] terror experienced under the current guerrilla groups,
[00:05:55] it is this same population that, since the beginning
[00:05:59] of his government, has been the object of new paramilitary
[00:06:02] implantations in their territories, who have started a campaign
[00:06:05] of terror, torture, forced disappearances,
[00:06:08] and dispossession of the lands that Gustavo Petro's government
[00:06:12] would have restored. The most flagrant complaints
[00:06:16] come from southern Córdoba, where Petro would have recovered
[00:06:19] the 200-hectare La Palmira hacienda that the AUC
[00:06:22] had taken from the peasants, who, less than a month after
[00:06:26] the beginning of Delespriella's government, suffer a re-dispossession
[00:06:29] by Abelardo's paramilitaries, with new complaints of this
[00:06:33] in Barranquilla or in Meta.
[00:06:36] el
[00:06:39] "Guerrilla hit in Colombia" is how the German media
[00:06:42] Chevele titles its TV report on the bombing campaign,
[00:06:46] its source, stated by themselves, the social network
[00:06:49] of President de la Espriella. So while some might
[00:06:53] think that the conventional media in the European garden
[00:06:56] would rather view with alarm that the identity,
[00:07:00] profile, occupation, and much less judicial
[00:07:03] charges, if any, against the victims are unknown,
[00:07:07] the reality is that what these media do is take
[00:07:11] what a president says on Twitter with a proven
[00:07:14] disregard for legality and present it as irrefutable
[00:07:18] truth. "Guerrilla hit," even if we don't know if it was.
[00:07:21] And not only in terms of the Colombian media right,
[00:07:25] we have headlines like this one from Semana: "Deaths,
[00:07:29] bombings, and blows to criminal groups. This is how President
[00:07:33] Abelardo de la Espriella's military offensive began." Do you see something similar,
[00:07:37] rather the same? "Blows to criminal groups."
[00:07:40] And it is these media that will never say that while
[00:07:44] the complete opacity of the victims' identities is maintained,
[00:07:47] and if the guerrilla was really hit, what is happening
[00:07:50] behind the smoke screen is the return of a paramilitary
[00:07:54] state that slowly tortures and dispossesses
[00:07:57] of their land the very peasants that these bombings claim
[00:08:01] to want to protect.
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[00:09:30] and in this second part of Mundo Podcast, in the world according
[00:09:33] to Ramonet, we are going to analyze the military victory of the Huthis
[00:09:37] in Bab-el-Mandeb, which is the gateway to the Red Sea.
[00:09:40] The journalist explains how this force managed to take
[00:09:44] positions on the coast and on the island of Perim,
[00:09:48] a local advance with repercussions in trade
[00:09:51] and in world geopolitics, a situation that, added
[00:09:54] to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, could affect
[00:09:58] the flow of up to 32% of global hydrocarbons,
[00:10:01] according to an analysis published by a specialized
[00:10:04] international media.
[00:10:07] Hello, well, indeed, today we are going
[00:10:11] to talk about this military victory,
[00:10:14] it is the gate of
[00:10:18] the gate of tears, because in that
[00:10:20] place where there are a series of small
[00:10:23] islets, well, many shipwrecks
[00:10:27] have occurred evidently for thousands
[00:10:30] of years and the central government has had to retreat
[00:10:33] to Aden, which is a port located on
[00:10:37] the side of the Gulf of Aden, before the Red
[00:10:40] Sea. We are seeing maps here and these maps that
[00:10:43] you see indicate well the area, how where Yemen is,
[00:10:47] Eritrea in front, Djibouti, the
[00:10:50] passage of Mandeb, the Red Sea,
[00:10:54] the Suez Canal, the Gulf of Aden and the Arabian
[00:10:57] Peninsula with the other
[00:11:00] also closed. So,
[00:11:04] we were saying, the Houthis, last week,
[00:11:07] they achieved a great military victory
[00:11:11] over the governmental forces that are allied with Saudi
[00:11:14] Arabia, trained, equipped by Saudi Arabia,
[00:11:18] and they have managed to control the entire Red Sea coast,
[00:11:21] up to the Strait of Bab-el-Mandeb,
[00:11:28] also the island, Perim Island, which is the island that controls Bab-el-Mandeb,
[00:11:31] the entrance to the Red Sea. It is a military victory,
[00:11:35] we could say, of a local war, but this local
[00:11:37] war has planetary consequences. Why? Because,
[00:11:41] of course, if Saudi Arabia
[00:11:43] is involved, even if it didn't
[00:11:47] want to be, but it is involved by its traditional
[00:11:51] between Israel and the United States against Iran,
[00:11:55] Iran has counteracted by bombing a series of
[00:11:58] refineries of military bases
[00:12:01] American and consequently has bombed
[00:12:04] zones in Qatar, zones in the United Arab
[00:12:08] Emirates also in Saudi Arabia, on the one hand
[00:12:11] and on the other hand,
[00:12:15] evidently that has had as a consequence, that confrontation
[00:12:18] Israel, United States against Iran, the closure as
[00:12:22] we all know of the Strait of Hormuz, through the Strait
[00:12:25] of Hormuz passes 20% of the world's
[00:12:28] hydrocarbons, 20%, that is,
[00:12:31] a fifth of the hydrocarbons consumed in the world.
[00:12:35] With the victory of the Houthis, the Houthis now control
[00:12:38] Bab-el-Mandeb, through Bab-el-Mandeb, Bab-el-Mandeb
[00:12:42] Canal of Suez, 12%
[00:12:45] of the world's hydrocarbons passes, 20%
[00:12:49] plus 12% make 32%,
[00:12:52] that is, a third of the hydrocarbons,
[00:12:55] oil, gas, liquefied
[00:12:58] gas that circulates around the world,
[00:13:02] that the world needs, that the world consumes, is currently
[00:13:05] able to be paralyzed, in Hormuz paralyzed,
[00:13:08] in Bab-el-Mandeb it can be paralyzed, it depends on the type of agreement
[00:13:12] that is found. The Houthis have declared
[00:13:14] that any international
[00:13:18] ship will be able to continue passing through Bab-el-Mandeb,
[00:13:21] except for Saudi Arabian ships, which are their enemy,
[00:13:25] and on the other hand, they have been attacking
[00:13:29] and preventing ships that they
[00:13:32] estimate belong to or are
[00:13:35] going to Israel for several years now,
[00:13:39] since the crisis in Gaza began,
[00:13:42] Israel has a port in the Gulf of Aqaba,
[00:13:46] and it is a port
[00:13:49] at the end of this Red Sea, no, the Red Sea
[00:13:53] to the north goes for one part,
[00:13:58] Sinai Peninsula it goes towards
[00:14:02] the Suez Canal, but to the west
[00:14:06] of the Sinai Peninsula it goes
[00:14:09] towards the gulf, it is called the Gulf
[00:14:12] of Aqaba, there is a city at the bottom that is
[00:14:16] a city and an Israeli port, and
[00:14:19] on the other hand there are also Jordanian ports
[00:14:23] and Egyptian ports, the Sinai
[00:14:25] Peninsula, to Egypt, so we have
[00:14:29] the world's hydrocarbons that can be paralyzed,
[00:14:33] and I repeat, the Houthis
[00:14:38] for the moment, it is a kind of agreement,
[00:14:42] quite intelligent for them, that they do not threaten
[00:14:45] American ships, they say, which means that Saudi
[00:14:49] Arabia, which is a great military power
[00:14:52] evidently and was and
[00:14:56] an oil power, evidently, the world's largest oil
[00:14:59] exporter, but is now in a situation where
[00:15:03] no one helps it, so we observe
[00:15:06] that Prince Salman, who is the crown prince, but since the
[00:15:10] king is very ill, the one who governs, who
[00:15:13] leads the executive of Saudi Arabia is Prince
[00:15:16] Salman, and Prince Salman has apparently, according
[00:15:20] to information in the press, called
[00:15:23] Donald Trump several times in person
[00:15:26] and to ask him
[00:15:30] to help him
[00:15:31] effectively dislodge
[00:15:35] the Houthis
[00:15:40] that they have just occupied and from Bab-el-Mandeb
[00:15:43] and President Trump has apparently said that the United States at this
[00:15:47] moment does not have enough resources, enough forces,
[00:15:51] two navies in the region, but that they are all
[00:15:54] focused on the attack on Iran,
[00:15:57] which we also know today, according to analysts,
[00:16:00] that the United States does not have enough ammunition
[00:16:04] to carry out two offensives, one against it and another
[00:16:07] eventually against the Houthis, so a very blocked situation,
[00:16:11] the jump in Europe, the price
[00:16:14] of 1 liter of gasoline at this moment is reaching
[00:16:17] 3€, 3€,
[00:16:20] that is, 3.2
[00:16:23] or 3.3
[00:16:25] per liter, I'm not talking about gallons,
[00:16:29] so we see that this
[00:16:32] situation creates a great
[00:16:36] concern on an international scale
[00:16:39] in inflation and when we are
[00:16:43] a short time, a little over a month,
[00:16:47] a month and a half, away from the midterm elections
[00:16:50] in the United States, which are on November 3rd and which
[00:16:54] will be judged on the cost of living, on inflation,
[00:16:57] that is, a small group attacks a very particular
[00:17:00] and almost forgotten region of the world and an apocalypse
[00:17:04] occurs on an international
[00:17:08] scale in the energy aspect, that is today's
[00:17:11] world, there are finally
[00:17:14] no places that are small
[00:17:17] or that are secondary, the world is
[00:17:20] interconnected and anything that happens in
[00:17:24] a distant place has repercussions
[00:17:27] for the whole world. Until next week.
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[00:19:11] and to conclude this edition of Mundo Podcast, political
[00:19:14] scientist Juan Carlos Monedero focuses on the geopolitical
[00:19:20] interests and the rise of new powers.
[00:19:23] Trump reconfigures US influence in Latin
[00:19:26] America, while in other regions such as Iran,
[00:19:29] Washington finds limits to its ability to influence
[00:19:32] and control.
[00:19:35] Monedero for Telesur, the world
[00:19:38] invites disobedience to Donald Trump,
[00:19:41] while in Mexico they launch the cry from the National
[00:19:45] Palace, which recalls independence from Spain,
[00:19:48] cries are heard in this case of rage
[00:19:53] the White House, cries that have been heard
[00:19:57] at the BRICS meeting in India, the United States is being
[00:20:01] left alone, it has victories of course, but each of those
[00:20:05] victories is also a contradiction and its alliance with
[00:20:08] the extreme right is beginning to awaken the peoples,
[00:20:11] it will not be tomorrow, but in a world where
[00:20:14] linearities have been broken, where a small event can
[00:20:17] generate a hecatomb on the other side, where
[00:20:21] the contradictions of the neoliberal model leave too many
[00:20:25] people without society, there is much game to be played.
[00:20:28] I think it is very difficult for the countries that during
[00:20:31] the last 50 years have maintained a close relationship
[00:20:35] of economic, military and diplomatic trust with
[00:20:39] the United States to recover
[00:20:42] the Democrats win in November and then in the next presidential
[00:20:46] elections in the United States, especially because
[00:20:49] what seemed impossible, which was for the Western
[00:20:52] world to have new allies, Donald Trump has unleashed
[00:20:55] it inevitably, the rebel forces have won in Yemen,
[00:20:58] the Iranians have not bowed, Jean-Luc Mélenchon leads
[00:21:01] the polls in France, just as Lula does in Brazil,
[00:21:05] and in Ireland, the president has told Trump to his face
[00:21:09] that she conveyed the firm opinion of the Irish people
[00:21:12] that the normalization of war and genocide can
[00:21:16] never be accepted. In Marco Rubio's recent trip to Colombia,
[00:21:21] has been that except for the clown from Delespriella
[00:21:25] who will sink with Trump, both in Ecuador and Peru,
[00:21:29] and especially in that country, they have decided to approach
[00:21:32] the United States militarily, they have no other choice,
[00:21:36] but without distancing themselves commercially from China.
[00:21:38] The economic relations of Peru with China, especially
[00:21:42] through the port of Chancay, are enormous. The Strait
[00:21:45] of Hormuz has been lost and it is condemning the planet
[00:21:49] to an economic crisis, the victory, as we said,
[00:21:52] of the Ansar Allah group in Yemen, with the control of the Strait
[00:21:56] of Bab-el-Mandeb implies Trump's concerns, none
[00:22:00] of the Arab countries has any reason left to maintain
[00:22:02] the agreement that Kissinger made in the 70s to negotiate
[00:22:06] oil with dollars in exchange for protection, what protection
[00:22:10] if the Iranians have blown
[00:22:13] bases in the area. For all this, it must be considered
[00:22:16] that the main efforts of the United States to maintain
[00:22:20] its status quo will come from Latin America, because
[00:22:24] it is where it is finding less opposition, where,
[00:22:27] well, with the exception of Mexico and Brazil, where
[00:22:31] it can offer more results and where, due to proximity,
[00:22:34] its threats are more real. That is why the United States
[00:22:38] is not simply trying to sell more to Colombia,
[00:22:41] Ecuador, Peru, it is trying to reorganize the conditions
[00:22:44] under which these countries trade, invest, build
[00:22:47] infrastructure and manage their strategic resources,
[00:22:51] so that China does not nodes of those economies.
[00:22:54] And what is there? Well, critical minerals, ports,
[00:22:58] energy, telecommunications, artificial intelligence,
[00:23:01] increasingly central, and security, all these
[00:23:05] elements cease to be separate issues, they are part
[00:23:08] of the same power politics. Venezuela, subjected to a kind
[00:23:11] of protectorate without a law that establishes it as such,
[00:23:15] and Colombia, as a central node of US control of
[00:23:19] Latin America, are the most affected countries.
[00:23:22] Trump does not stop reminding that for him Venezuela is the
[00:23:25] 51st state of the United States, that he has taken
[00:23:29] the oil and that President Delcy Rodríguez is his
[00:23:32] best ally, all this makes the reconstruction
[00:23:35] of Chavismo difficult, not now but for the next
[00:23:38] decade, and if things don't change, then prepare
[00:23:41] for when Trump decides to call elections, the
[00:23:45] victory of the genuinely pro-American opposition,
[00:23:48] which will directly hand over all the country's wealth,
[00:23:52] as María Corina Machado promised at the time to
[00:23:55] the United States. And from Colombia, let's not
[00:23:59] forget two essential things: that Delespriella has
[00:24:02] American nationality and that he has particular,
[00:24:05] personal businesses with Marco Rubio. If
[00:24:09] this appropriation of Colombia for Rubio's interests
[00:24:13] would mean an element of discord between him and
[00:24:16] Donald Trump, it is open. President Petro has insisted,
[00:24:22] conviction, that Trump did not even know what OFAC
[00:24:25] was, that office of control of foreign assets, which
[00:24:29] would feed the idea that in the distribution of the loot,
[00:24:32] Trump got Venezuela and Marco Rubio got Colombia,
[00:24:35] and Trump disassociated himself from everything that
[00:24:38] happened in Colombia, I say, it may have some truth,
[00:24:41] but it is not entirely convincing, things are
[00:24:45] definitely moving and time is against Donald
[00:24:48] Trump and his partners, because Trump has partners,
[00:24:52] due to problems with his plans in the Middle East,
[00:24:56] due to the growing articulation of the BRICS, due to
[00:24:59] the strong loss of international allies who are making
[00:25:02] new alliances, a re-articulation of the Democratic Party
[00:25:05] with a growing socialist wing, due to the recovery,
[00:25:09] albeit slow, of the European left, which still has
[00:25:13] to go through the ordeal of the ultra victory in
[00:25:17] Spain and France, due to the demonstration of
[00:25:20] US interference in elections in many countries, especially
[00:25:24] Latin American ones, due to the global rejection of
[00:25:28] the genocide in Gaza, something that all Israeli
[00:25:31] tourists are already noticing, and it is good that it is so in all parts of the world,
[00:25:35] due to the firmness of Canada and Mexico, its two great
[00:25:39] borders, and because he has run out of tricks by not
[00:25:43] solving inflation and the price of diesel in the United States,
[00:25:46] not making Epstein's list public, which would show how a very alleged
[00:25:50] pedophile and embarking the country
[00:25:54] on wars that imply an enormous wear and tear.
[00:25:57] Trump is risking everything in Latin America.
[00:26:01] Mexico has put a brake
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