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[00:01:09] expansion of what [00:01:39] Ursula von der Leyen spoke of [00:01:42] Hello, how are you, I'm Paola Pérez, welcome to the Telesur map, the agreement [00:01:45] between Russia and the United States to [00:01:48] sell a total of more than 4 million [00:01:50] metric tons of diesel during the [00:01:53] happen much faster than next 3 months and from then on, one million tons per month [00:01:56] is raising reactions in Europe and even a political crisis in Ukraine. [00:02:00] Today we are going to analyze these movements also scenarios in the midst of a [00:02:03] conflict that has already lasted more than 4 years, so we begin, [00:02:16] for this it is essential to deploy our map and review some key [00:02:19] data, precisely what this agreement between the United States and Russia is about, [00:02:23] we are talking about an energy agreement, let's deploy our [00:02:27] world map for this and let's identify with the colors of the [00:02:32] apocalyptic. The sound of flag, first the United States, there you see it, also the [00:02:36] language, of arrogance Russian Federation with the colors of its flag, it must be said that these two presidents, Vladimir [00:02:40] Putin and his counterpart Donald Trump, agreed to the [00:02:43] supply of Russian diesel fuel to Washington and to the [00:02:47] world market, the US [00:02:49] session of the United government also decided to temporarily suspend sanctions on [00:02:52] these deliveries to guarantee [00:02:56] on the one hand, the policy of energy stability, that is what is also reported as part of the agreement, it has been released on [00:02:59] the truth social account of the [00:03:02] US president, who announced the initial shipment of more [00:03:06] than 300,000 tons, another 500,000 that [00:03:10] scan the QR code to will arrive in November, Trump wrote, as part of a [00:03:13] second phase an additional million will be sent immediately [00:03:16] after. The US Treasury Department has already [00:03:20] authorized all transactions related to this [00:03:24] sale. We are talking about the delivery [00:03:26] obviously through the import of Russian diesel, the [00:03:30] suspension of sanctions that extends until April 2027, [00:03:33] allowing its entry into US [00:03:37] put the dot on territory. In this scenario, Trump mentioned that [00:03:40] Russia could deliver 3 million additional tons [00:03:43] in a short period. The capacity of Russian refineries would determine [00:03:47] the completion of this last part of the agreement. The [00:03:51] director of the Russian Direct Investment Fund, Kirill Dmitriev, [00:03:54] highlighted the continuity of this energy cooperation between both [00:03:57] countries, stating that it [00:04:00] will benefit global markets and the entire world, writing [00:04:04] that energy cooperation between Moscow and Washington, according to both leaders [00:04:08] would continue to guarantee [00:04:10] stability and security in global fuel [00:04:14] markets, how is this movement being read and in what [00:04:18] scenario is it taking place, today we analyze it on the Telesur [00:04:22] map. [00:04:28] level that is key in For this we are joined from Argentina by Claymans, an expert on Russia, who is also a journalist, [00:04:32] Hernando, thank you for your time for the Telesur [00:04:36] agreements, which is very different from what map, how are you, welcome, [00:04:39] hello Paola, good afternoon for us, from [00:04:42] Argentina we also add Marcelo Ramírez, content director [00:04:45] of Asia TV, geopolitical analyst in smoke and mirrors and also in [00:04:49] Asia in motion, what a pleasure to have you on the Telesur map, Marcelo, thank you for your [00:04:53] time, no, what's up, thank you for [00:04:56] calling me, Hernando, I would like to start with you, to be [00:05:00] able to understand [00:05:03] how this agreement is born, in what scenario, also, how do [00:05:06] we qualify this geopolitical [00:05:09] evade when the movement between Russia and the United States. [00:05:12] Well, let's clarify some [00:05:14] points, [00:05:17] approximately 4 million tons of diesel are traded [00:05:20] per day worldwide. [00:05:24] Russia produces approximately [00:05:26] 85 million tons of [00:05:30] diesel per year. [00:05:33] The agreement of Trump, [00:05:36] as suggested by Russian First Deputy Prime Minister [00:05:39] Alexandr Novak, who is in charge of [00:05:43] the entire Russian [00:05:45] energy complex, this [00:05:48] agreement means nothing more than a political [00:05:52] opening for Russia, an opening [00:05:55] that once again demonstrates [00:05:58] the reality as it is, that is, we are talking about [00:06:01] that it is not Russia that [00:06:05] set conditions, it is not Russia that [00:06:08] offered any agreement, but it is the United States [00:06:12] that did two things: on the one [00:06:15] hand it asked for fuel and on the other [00:06:18] hand it lifted sanctions, that's [00:06:21] fine, it's provisional, it will be until [00:06:25] the end of April next year, but the truth is [00:06:28] that this means [00:06:32] a really important [00:06:35] turning point not only in the fuel [00:06:39] world but in general in the world economy, I must clarify that [00:06:42] also this morning, I haven't seen it now, but this [00:06:46] morning Brent crude was at [00:06:49] 107 dollars, so it hasn't gone down, it's not [00:06:53] that this agreement has generated a world [00:06:57] price drop, for now what [00:07:00] there is is simply an [00:07:03] agreement by Russia to place [00:07:07] 300,000 tons of fuel [00:07:10] in the United States, well. 300,000 tons of [00:07:13] diesel [00:07:16] as this, as transportation, as logistics, [00:07:20] are two ships, no more than that, what happens is that for a [00:07:24] Trump hacked by the [00:07:26] internal political [00:07:28] situation, on the eve of [00:07:31] a mid-term election that after [00:07:35] hacking his presidency, showing [00:07:37] that he is in a position to [00:07:40] lower the overwhelming internal price [00:07:43] of gasoline is very important, this is what Trump [00:07:47] is doing at this moment, anyway, [00:07:49] this agreement, more than [00:07:52] anything, what it means is a [00:07:56] political definitive, a [00:07:59] definitive distancing of the United States [00:08:03] from the Kiev regime, that is why [00:08:06] Zelensky has [00:08:09] spoken out in a way that is even [00:08:12] hysterical against this agreement, which in turn generated [00:08:16] another reprimand [00:08:19] from Trump who has told him that he not only is not fit to [00:08:22] be president of [00:08:26] Ukraine, but that he is also [00:08:30] sabotaging the peace agreement and also he [00:08:33] has to go, there have to be elections, [00:08:37] well, the truth is that at this point in the [00:08:41] game that Trump takes this [00:08:43] position from the point of view of, let's say, the [00:08:47] political situation in Europe, is something [00:08:51] very strong, it's something very strong, we are talking about [00:08:55] a position that is [00:08:58] absolutely contrary to the [00:09:00] position of European leaders, [00:09:03] who still think that [00:09:07] they should put money, weapons [00:09:10] and advisors to support the Kiev [00:09:14] regime, something absolutely impossible [00:09:18] today and absolutely [00:09:21] out of touch with reality, [00:09:25] so that is why Zelensky is [00:09:28] asking for a change of elections, [00:09:32] he is asking for two months of [00:09:36] armistice, now [00:09:38] let's clarify one thing, first. [00:09:42] Zelensky's term as president of Ukraine [00:09:45] expired in March 2024, [00:09:48] not 2025, [00:09:51] 2024, [00:09:54] this in the first place, and in second place, nobody [00:09:57] believes him, nobody, neither the [00:10:00] Americans nor the Europeans, believe Zelensky [00:10:03] that he will have an armistice and will not [00:10:07] take advantage of those 60 days not to hold elections but to [00:10:10] rearm and perhaps. [00:10:14] to make a path [00:10:18] by which he can [00:10:21] political situation tomorrow puts him against the [00:10:25] wall, today the agreement that [00:10:28] has just been [00:10:30] signed, they didn't sign anything, the [00:10:34] agreement that Putin [00:10:37] and Trump have just announced, [00:10:40] simply puts things in their place, [00:10:43] I clarify, to [00:10:45] finish, that today the [00:10:49] Deputy Prime Minister Novak announced [00:10:53] that negotiations between [00:10:56] American companies and Russian companies were [00:11:00] beginning to prepare the shipments, it's not [00:11:04] from one day to the next, no, but they are [00:11:07] preparing it, now here [00:11:10] I finish, the United States has continued to [00:11:13] import gas from [00:11:15] Russia today, it never stopped importing diesel, nor [00:11:19] diesel nor [00:11:23] compressed natural gas, LNG. [00:11:25] That is, what they are doing is [00:11:29] placing a possible [00:11:34] is happening in order to move the [00:11:38] internal political landscape of the United States, [00:11:42] that is my opinion, well, since you went ahead a lot [00:11:45] of my picture, I tell you Hernando, Marcelo, I would like [00:11:49] to know also if this, if this energy truce, as we can call it, [00:11:52] also has its interpretation of geopolitical [00:11:55] movement, which was my question for Hernando, because here there has [00:11:59] also been a negotiation of an exit that [00:12:02] Russia, for example, with Kiev, has insisted on so much and has not been closed, but [00:12:06] given the conditions of not having elections, not having legality, [00:12:09] it has been unfeasible, something that from Ukraine itself has [00:12:13] been undermining a possible negotiated solution [00:12:16] to this conflict that has already lasted more than three [00:12:19] years, what implications will this [00:12:22] truce have not only for the global ethical market, but what it [00:12:26] represents in the role that Russia is currently playing? [00:12:28] Well, [00:12:31] more than anything, what we are [00:12:35] advancement in terms of the ability to [00:12:38] provide diesel to the US market, which is scarce [00:12:42] and is leading to prices of almost $6 per barrel in some [00:12:46] cases, or rather, per gallon, this [00:12:49] is the most well-known part, but I think [00:12:52] Putin's bet, [00:12:55] and why he agrees to offer Trump a lifeline [00:12:59] on the eve of the mid-term elections, [00:13:02] is basically [00:13:05] to increase pressure on [00:13:08] Zelensky. Why do I say [00:13:11] this? Because in reality, Ukraine is launching sustained [00:13:15] attacks against Russian refineries, which is affecting the [00:13:19] global diesel supply, and Zelensky [00:13:22] is actually doing this for his own [00:13:25] interests and is not aligning them with the interests of [00:13:29] Trump, who in turn is under pressure because [00:13:32] precisely in the Gulf, with the problems in the Strait of [00:13:35] Hormuz, the extraction of [00:13:38] crude and refined [00:13:42] products from the oil [00:13:45] powers of the Middle East [00:13:48] is becoming difficult. In this way, what [00:13:51] does Trump achieve? He negotiates [00:13:54] with Putin. Putin offers [00:13:57] to help him with a program that can reach approximately 7 [00:14:01] million dollars by offering him [00:14:05] oil, offering him diesel to solve [00:14:08] the supply problems. In return, what he will get is that Trump will [00:14:12] pressure Zelensky precisely to stop the attacks on the [00:14:16] refineries. In some way, Trump's attitude has already [00:14:20] been clear in this aspect and he has told him that he can do whatever he wants, [00:14:23] but he cannot attack the refineries, something that Zelensky [00:14:27] has somehow disobeyed, [00:14:30] in that way, what Russia indirectly [00:14:33] achieves is that Washington [00:14:36] increases its pressure capacity on Kiev, [00:14:40] this is what has worried Zelensky and his [00:14:43] government so much, because this [00:14:46] also shows Russia as a [00:14:50] power factor at an international [00:14:53] the formation of prices, for example, for something as delicate as [00:14:57] fuels, all this somehow leads [00:15:00] Trump to have a policy that initially [00:15:04] would seem contradictory to what the United States has said, which is to increase [00:15:08] pressure on Russia and [00:15:11] on its energy [00:15:15] income basically, and on that [00:15:17] note, where this energy truce [00:15:20] is celebrated, and in the midst of all this situation, [00:15:24] other factors are also added that may perhaps have a weight in [00:15:28] this balance, I ask Marcelo and Hernando Kleimans to stay online with [00:15:31] us as well as our viewers, we are going to [00:15:34] take a short break, but not before sharing with you our. [00:15:47] We want to share on the Telesur map this video circulating on the [00:15:51] social network X, in the image we see the president of the United States [00:15:55] Donald Trump referring to this energy agreement where he says that he [00:15:58] agrees to send millions and millions of barrels of oil, that is what is [00:16:02] reported during his speech in front of all these [00:16:05] people who are preparing for the mid-term elections, amidst [00:16:09] applause, Trump thanked President Vladimir Putin [00:16:13] for this opportunity, he knows that this has an important [00:16:16] weight in these elections, although narratively [00:16:20] he has stated on more than one occasion that they do not [00:16:23] mean that much to the Republican wing, the truth is [00:16:26] that what is also measured in the mid-term [00:16:30] effective movement that Russia has made in recent [00:16:34] weeks, we will talk about this when we return. [00:16:38] the way today, Russia agreed to send us [00:16:42] millions and millions of barrels of oil, and [00:16:46] it's diesel, that's what we really need, so thank you. [00:17:39] Today on the Telesur map we are analyzing this agreement between [00:17:43] the United States and Russia amidst a conflict that has already lasted [00:17:46] more than 3 years. Hernando, amidst all this scenario comes [00:17:50] the role of Europe, a Europe that also [00:17:53] decides not only perhaps [00:17:56] to shoot itself in the foot, as they would say colloquially, but to try to [00:18:00] prevent this from taking a good course, the big question is why, why [00:18:03] oppose it if they have continued to buy energy even [00:18:07] during the first months of this [00:18:09] 2026, [00:18:13] yes, it is really a question that should [00:18:16] be [00:18:18] redirected to a psychiatrist, to a [00:18:22] psychologist, because the truth is that it is inexplicable that [00:18:25] they are condemning their peoples to energy [00:18:29] hunger, when in reality they do not have to [00:18:33] do it, because besides this there is no [00:18:36] other energy security in the [00:18:39] world today than the one that Russia can [00:18:43] provide, what we have just seen about the Strait of [00:18:47] Hormuz, the collapse of many [00:18:50] productions in Middle Eastern [00:18:54] refineries indicate that we must [00:18:57] look for the reliable supplier, as in any [00:19:00] business, you cannot look for a supplier that [00:19:03] you do not know if they will supply you, [00:19:07] you have to... the supplier that has really shown that [00:19:10] it has always complied with its deliveries, [00:19:14] but well, this also has an important political side in [00:19:17] Europe, I mean, because [00:19:21] we cannot ignore the situation of tremendous [00:19:24] political weakness of some of its [00:19:27] leaders, in Germany, Macron [00:19:31] himself in France [00:19:35] who are facing situations [00:19:39] of instability, to put it mildly, [00:19:43] and they don't find , they don't know, they don't [00:19:46] want to look for ways to solve this, so [00:19:50] they exacerbate [00:19:53] the situation, the [00:19:56] crisis in [00:19:58] Ukraine, still [00:20:02] believing that they will move forward, the facts are very [00:20:05] stubborn, there is absolutely no [00:20:08] possibility that this will happen, so they are [00:20:11] condemning their peoples to a [00:20:14] situation of extreme care, it is no longer [00:20:17] only Ukraine [00:20:20] that is going through a [00:20:23] terminal crisis that even puts [00:20:27] the very existence of the Ukrainian [00:20:30] state in danger, it is no longer only about that, it is about [00:20:33] countries that everyday events show [00:20:37] are in political instability, well, in this [00:20:41] situation, oh, and let's also add [00:20:44] that Trump perfectly [00:20:48] observes this, and the decisions he makes regarding Europe [00:20:51] are also important, it should not be ignored that [00:20:55] Trump is separating himself from the [00:20:58] European conflict. Trump is looking for other things and [00:21:02] I say this to finish, let's not forget that in [00:21:05] November, in mid- November, there will be a [00:21:10] of the Pacific Federation of Countries [00:21:14] in Shenzhen, China, and [00:21:17] Trump and Putin [00:21:21] will meet, even without their own agenda, [00:21:23] they will meet. Trump, yes, and [00:21:27] Putin, [00:21:30] it's very, it's a very attractive [00:21:33] possibility and I really think important things [00:21:36] will happen there, so in that [00:21:39] situation, the world has to be very very [00:21:42] aware of the changes that may be [00:21:45] coming, yes, and in the midst of this scenario we should [00:21:48] also ask ourselves if this does not become a smokescreen that Ukraine [00:21:52] could also take advantage of, two months to call [00:21:55] elections where they could even resupply their [00:21:59] missile system and somehow give their [00:22:03] exhausted troops a rest in the midst of the conflict on the ground. Marcelo, I [00:22:06] would also like to analyze this other scenario that has been placed on the table [00:22:10] and that even the Kremlin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, has highlighted. [00:22:14] Let's see. [00:22:25] While the president of the European Commission [00:22:29] families and businesses that are already feeling the consequences of the [00:22:33] crisis caused by the war outside our borders, she said that since the end of [00:22:36] February gas prices have increased by [00:22:39] 140%, diesel prices have doubled in total, if [00:22:43] we talk, says von der Leyen, about imported fossil [00:22:46] fuels, this increase costs Europe 100 billion [00:22:50] additional euros, in return we do not get an additional molecule of [00:22:53] energy, it seems more like a criticism of the United [00:22:57] States than of Russia itself, Marcelo, I would like to [00:23:00] analyze this scenario [00:23:01] with you. [00:23:06] In the midst of a European stance that is not new, comes [00:23:09] Dmitry Peskov, I mentioned him before going to von der Leyen, [00:23:13] Russia does not want a temporary truce, it has stated this over and over [00:23:17] again, it wants total peace, what [00:23:20] will this path or this new scenario represent [00:23:24] perhaps in the midst of this negotiation that seems to be opening a very [00:23:27] important door, [00:23:40] saying was that there are some things to take into account, [00:23:46] the European Union is quite schizophrenic in some aspects. [00:23:50] No, they have practically renounced fossil [00:23:53] fuels, the green agenda based on the [00:23:56] climate agenda has led them [00:23:59] to have a hostile policy with fuels and in some [00:24:03] way they have mounted a campaign of [00:24:07] aggression against Russia, this campaign has [00:24:10] led them to basically forgo [00:24:14] Russian gas, evidently now what [00:24:17] we are seeing is that this campaign [00:24:20] basically led them to an inconsistent energy policy, it has [00:24:23] reduced their competitiveness, it has reduced their capacity, on the other [00:24:27] hand there is a fracture between the Western elites [00:24:31] where we see two opposing models, one is the one that [00:24:34] Donald Trump tries to carry out with all his [00:24:37] lights and shadows, and on the other hand we have the model [00:24:41] that London and Brussels carry out, which is different, [00:24:45] so there we see that difference, that line [00:24:48] of confrontation. So we cannot analyze this [00:24:52] as a homogeneous bloc that faces Russia, but rather [00:24:56] we have to see the differences in the Western bloc where [00:24:59] the policies are different, although [00:25:02] Trump has differences with Russia and tries to impose [00:25:06] an American hegemonic model, on the other hand he has [00:25:10] a certain tendency and a certain affinity with the [00:25:14] Moscow government, he has a concordance [00:25:17] of values, he has a more civilizational vision similar [00:25:20] to the Russian one and in that sense he seeks to try to establish [00:25:26] happens between London and Brussels, with Russia and with [00:25:29] Donald Trump himself who have a [00:25:32] different position, so they are sometimes circumstantial [00:25:35] allies in some things, but in others they are deeply [00:25:38] opposed to us, perhaps in our region [00:25:42] it is quite difficult for us to see this because we are part of [00:25:46] that Western internal where sometimes we see some [00:25:49] or the media present some as good and [00:25:53] others as bad, when in reality it is about two opposing [00:25:57] projects among themselves, this also [00:25:59] converges in the midst of all these movements and geopolitical events that [00:26:03] continue to impact the world, I want to thank Marcelo Ramírez and Hernando Kleimans for [00:26:06] having joined us today on the program and sharing their valuable analysis [00:26:10] with our viewers of the Telesur map, thank you both for taking [00:26:13] our call, the program ends and we do so by reviewing our vectors, [00:26:28] our radar on the map today reflects the three keys on this issue: United States, [00:26:31] Russia, energy agreement, let's talk about Zelensky, what began as a [00:26:35] disagreement over negotiations ended up escalating to a call for elections, [00:26:39] something that Zelensky had used as a shield to perpetuate himself in power and [00:26:43] obstruct a solution to the conflict with Russia, which can also be read as [00:26:46] an economic intention also has a political intention and these are the midterm [00:26:50] elections in a United States that no longer has [00:26:54] sustainability of its own economy, which is already [00:26:57] taking a heavy toll on the Republican wing. Two [00:27:01] Europe for Russia, European leaders have become the enemies of [00:27:05] this economic energy cooperation between the United States and the Russian Federation [00:27:09] by opposing an agreement on diesel, denying benefits [00:27:12] for the world and for peace. It should be remembered that the European bloc [00:27:16] already paid Russia nearly 250 million dollars for [00:27:19] energy, reaching a record import of liquefied natural gas [00:27:22] from Russia in the first 9 months of this 2026, with [00:27:26] nearly 7,880 million euros, but it seems [00:27:30] that the business for the European elites was to pay more for [00:27:34] energy, but the United States. Three, geopolitical [00:27:37] movement. Once again, Russia is showing that it has control not [00:27:41] only of the ground in the conflict, but also of the political movements with [00:27:44] the United States. In a single move with this energy agreement, [00:27:48] it has taken European leaders and Volodimir Zelensky himself [00:27:52] out of the game. It has made things [00:27:55] everyone expected. I am Paola Pérez and we will see each other in another [00:27:58] edition of the map. [00:28:13] "I have not come here as a prophet of the revolution, I have not come [00:28:17] to ask for the world to be convulsed violently, [00:28:21] we have come to talk about peace and collaboration between peoples [00:28:24] and we have come to warn that if we do not resolve [00:28:28] peacefully and wisely the current injustices and inequalities, [00:28:31] the future will be [00:28:35] weapons, of threatening [00:28:38] on the international scene must cease, Fidel Castro. [00:28:42] October 12, 1979, [00:28:44] speech delivered in his capacity as president of the Non-Aligned Movement [00:28:48] at the 34th [00:28:51] Nations General Assembly, New York, United States. 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