TELESUR — broadcast 20261104 020000 UTC 530 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] some investigations, [00:00:01] what the election surely, uh, actions [00:00:04] and with are taken to stop [00:00:06] of the victory of something like this, but in general, these [00:00:09] lines will continue and this [00:00:13] administration, as far as the president is concerned, [00:00:16] can make decisions that from a [00:00:19] realistic point of view, of sanity, of politics, [00:00:23] of, uh, even within the parameters of [00:00:27] the United States, could be considered [00:00:30] truly disproportionate. It cannot [00:00:34] be ruled out based on what [00:00:38] uh he, as a person, interprets as [00:00:41] going against the interests of uh the United States, which in [00:00:45] reality he sees as his own interests, and he believes that [00:00:49] he won when everyone knows he didn't win. [00:00:52] So we would have to wait to see not [00:00:55] only that an electoral [00:00:58] result and all the [00:01:02] opinions and criteria are consolidated, [00:01:05] but also what reaction President [00:01:08] Trump may have based on the results, how he interprets [00:01:12] them, and what variations he plans to apply. [00:01:16] I want to thank you [00:01:20] for joining us on this special program, for sharing your valuable [00:01:23] opinion and analysis, by the way, regarding foreign [00:01:27] policy, regarding domestic policy, and above all, these scenarios that [00:01:30] open up if the Democrats' victory is consolidated [00:01:34] and a defeat that could be described as historical [00:01:37] also for the Republican wing. What will [00:01:39] happen in the midst of all this situation? Well, we will see in [00:01:43] the coming hours when it is 100% consolidated, while [00:01:47] the election of some governors in favor of [00:01:50] the Democratic wing, including the Senate of the United [00:01:54] States, is also ratified. Luis René Fernández [00:01:58] Tavio is with us, and a researcher at the Center for Demographic Studies [00:02:02] of the University of Havana. Thank you for joining us regarding these [00:02:06] results. What is also being officially [00:02:08] consolidated within the hemicycle, within [00:02:12] the United States Congress, has to do with the Senate, one of the [00:02:16] very disputed scenarios also this day. So far, [00:02:19] nine for the Democrats and two for the Republicans, zero for the [00:02:23] independents. Let's remember that there are 35 seats [00:02:26] in dispute, but this marks [00:02:29] increased the cost of something key. One of the seats has just [00:02:32] been lost by [00:02:33] lead in all three, in the Republicans, that is, today it falls into the hands of the Democrats, Mariana. This is not a [00:02:37] minor detail, it is a minor detail and the winner is [00:02:41] Roy Cooper, former governor of the state. [00:02:43] And [00:02:46] I'm saying it correctly, North Carolina, [00:02:49] with a campaign message: we must [00:02:52] recover the quality of life of the middle [00:02:56] class, no, that is the campaign [00:02:59] with which he wins this election. It is not a minor issue and [00:03:02] clearly again it is the economy, the pockets [00:03:06] and the cost of gasoline, part of his strategy to [00:03:09] win this campaign. Now, [00:03:12] 74% of this seat that the [00:03:14] to know, how the consolidation Democrats win, led by Senator Roy Cooper, who just [00:03:17] moments ago spoke in front of his constituents and said another [00:03:20] key issue, all related also to the economy, we have [00:03:24] to work to end this war and stop the [00:03:27] suffering at gas stations, one... once again, the impact on the [00:03:31] consumer's pocket that has had to do with this [00:03:35] war that has been strengthened on February 28th [00:03:38] in an excessive attack that even attacked [00:03:41] one of the schools in southern Iran, the [00:03:43] and our Telesur viewers, Eminap school, killing more than 170 girls. This [00:03:47] also impacts with this naval blockade in the strategic Strait [00:03:50] of Hormuz and the impact that has been in the attack also of these ships [00:03:54] and this whole scenario of conflict that [00:03:57] has again tended to delay [00:04:01] the level of tension yesterday when southern Iran was attacked. Yes, [00:04:04] in fact, what Cooper shows us is how the average [00:04:08] voter can be decisive in modifying [00:04:11] a trend of a vote, and you rightly [00:04:15] said, Paola, the effects that [00:04:19] a very distant war has on the pockets of [00:04:21] Americans are fundamental. Now we are not [00:04:25] discussing human rights and all the deaths that have been generated [00:04:29] by this war and that will be analyzed [00:04:33] at another time, but undoubtedly how [00:04:41] and we will bring you everything elections. The Hispanic community in cast this vote in conflicts far from US territory can negatively impact and how from a campaign [00:04:43] appealing to what is studied as the median [00:04:47] voter, that is, the average [00:04:50] people in terms of voting, and [00:04:54] a discourse in favor of improving [00:04:57] the economic conditions and quality of life of voters, [00:05:01] has been decisive for one of the seats that the Democratic [00:05:04] Party needs to be winning now, and precisely in [00:05:08] North Carolina, according to the latest trends and projections, including from [00:05:12] continue to arrive regarding US media, they spoke of a [00:05:14] 57% disapproval of the policies implemented by the [00:05:18] Republican Donald Trump's administration in the midst of a complex [00:05:22] scenario that also indicates that the management [00:05:25] has been 42% worse than 2 [00:05:29] years ago, that is, there is a very marked setback, [00:05:32] a setback that widens a very [00:05:35] complicated scenario tonight for the Republican Donald Trump, who is surely [00:05:39] following it, as we know, from the Oval Office, from the White [00:05:42] House, through his own media, another point we can add [00:05:46] is the management of the media, an open [00:05:50] confrontation against journalists who have even been banned from entering, [00:05:54] from covering a presidential [00:05:57] agenda, from being able to ask questions of the [00:06:00] current President of the United States. Yes, where is freedom [00:06:04] there, no? To be able to question [00:06:08] the powers in the United States is [00:06:11] an important issue. Very large networks within [00:06:15] the United States that at times did [00:06:18] not have the possibility to follow the coverage [00:06:21] and that also shows President Trump's desire to maintain [00:06:25] the agenda and the issues that are constituted [00:06:28] from his own communication with citizens, I also [00:06:31] think it is a trend that is happening in different parts of the [00:06:35] world, trying to avoid [00:06:38] what was previously considered as the fourth [00:06:41] estate, which is the establishment. The executive's [00:06:44] agenda with the electorate, well, everything seems to indicate [00:06:48] that also in this monitoring [00:06:51] of election results, well, Trump has decided, because [00:06:54] various media outlets state that he is not following [00:06:58] the elections but through his own channels. [00:07:01] Chris Coons has also been elected senator for [00:07:05] Delaware, a Democrat, is another [00:07:08] of the consolidated results so far, another of the states [00:07:11] that has also defined its senator, how [00:07:14] it is generating and escalating seats in the Senate, [00:07:18] we already saw that one seat has already [00:07:21] gone to the Democrats, that is, the Republicans have lost [00:07:24] this seat, still in contention, the Democrats [00:07:28] must get three more to have [00:07:30] an advantage over the Republicans, there [00:07:33] we also see in our reality how [00:07:37] 11 seats in the Senate are in favor of the [00:07:41] Democrats and three for the Republicans. [00:07:43] This is what we are also seeing in part of the reactions [00:07:47] from the Democrats' own account, this has to do [00:07:50] with what we mentioned earlier, Democrat Chris Pappas has also [00:07:54] won the race in New Hampshire, he is another [00:07:56] member of the United States Senate, and [00:07:59] it is precisely part of what we were reporting [00:08:03] moments ago and also analyzing within this program, the [00:08:07] Democrats are advancing in the race, Mariana. [00:08:10] demócratas. [00:08:12] We also have 11 to 3, zero for [00:08:16] independents, they still need three, it's still missing in [00:08:19] the upper house, in the Senate, also the [00:08:23] results that are being [00:08:26] published by different media, please follow [00:08:30] the coverage and the Telesur map. 65 [00:08:33] seats for Democrats in the House of Representatives, 29 [00:08:37] Republicans. Some states still need to [00:08:40] close the polls, [00:08:43] but again, in the [00:08:46] other chamber, the blues are winning. [00:08:50] Yes, a situation that helps us understand how this map is taking shape, [00:08:54] how it is turning red in favor of the Republicans and [00:08:58] blue in favor of the Democrats. It does not seem to be a good night for the [00:09:02] Donald Trump administration. Henry Camelo is with us from New [00:09:05] York as well to give us more details, more information at [00:09:26] have just closed in the state and city of New [00:09:30] York and the expectation is maximum [00:09:33] because now the counting of votes begins. [00:09:37] More than 5 million people were [00:09:40] eligible in the state [00:09:44] of New York and in the city of New York to [00:09:49] the midterm [00:09:53] New York City, about [00:09:55] 1,500,000 [00:09:58] eligible voters for these elections. Many of [00:10:02] them went to the polls, a lot of turnout from [00:10:05] 6 in the morning. The hours were open between 6 and [00:10:09] 9 in the morning and many [00:10:12] people were seen attending the polls despite it being [00:10:16] a workday and that normality [00:10:19] in daily work continued. However, the [00:10:23] crowd throughout [00:10:27] the city basically looked as if it were [00:10:30] presidential elections, as the [00:10:33] enthusiasm to go out and vote was seen from [00:10:37] early hours of the morning. The [00:10:40] projections that have been given by different media [00:10:43] outlets and different news agencies [00:10:46] are that the Democrats will [00:10:49] keep the seats that are [00:10:52] stipulated and that are expected to [00:10:56] come out of here from the state of New York. District [00:10:59] 17 is a district that has [00:11:02] presented problems, it is the Westchester district [00:11:06] where the machines presented [00:11:09] problems when scanning [00:11:11] the voting forms. Many of [00:11:15] them could not be scanned and had [00:11:19] to be collected to be [00:11:22] scanned. At this hour, [00:11:25] it is expected that new machines, new [00:11:28] scanners will be brought so that all [00:11:32] these ballots are counted. We are talking [00:11:36] about more than 300 polling stations [00:11:39] having problems out of the 45 municipalities [00:11:42] that make up [00:11:45] Westchester, Westchester County, 44 [00:11:49] presented this type of problem. However, the [00:11:53] electoral authorities and the prosecutor's office took [00:11:57] immediate action, protecting [00:12:00] these forms so that they could [00:12:03] be counted once voting hours [00:12:06] ended. So it is expected that in the [00:12:10] coming minutes, the counting [00:12:13] of these ballots will also begin. However, [00:12:16] it must be said that this could delay [00:12:20] the final results in that [00:12:23] county, a county that is in dispute [00:12:27] by the current representative in [00:12:30] the House, Mike Lawler, [00:12:34] and the aspirant to take [00:12:37] this seat from [00:12:41] the Democratic Party, Katin Collin. [00:12:44] According to the projections, [00:12:48] she would be above the Republican candidate [00:12:50] with 53% [00:12:55] of the electoral preference, and according to the [00:12:58] projections, she would be the one to take the [00:13:01] seat of this district [00:13:05] 17. We will be very attentive to what [00:13:08] happens there. It must be said that in New [00:13:11] Jersey, voting closed at 8 p.m. [00:13:14] and the results are quite [00:13:18] encouraging for the Democrats. [00:13:22] District 1 was [00:13:25] won by Donald [00:13:28] Norcross, and he [00:13:31] is the Democratic candidate who, with [00:13:37] the vote, [00:13:41] two in district three, and one of the [00:13:45] most contested was [00:13:48] district number [00:13:51] seven where Rebecca [00:13:53] Bennet beat [00:13:56] Thomas Kean. This [00:13:59] by an overwhelming majority with 64% [00:14:03] against 34%. [00:14:06] District number 7 where [00:14:09] Rebecca Bennet defeated Thomas Kean [00:14:13] Jr. This was by [00:14:17] an overwhelming majority with 64% [00:14:20] against 34.8%. [00:14:25] that Tom Kean Jr. took, [00:14:29] one of the favorites [00:14:32] who was projected to be the one [00:14:35] to win that district. However, once again, [00:14:38] the Democrats prevailed in that district and New [00:14:42] Jersey not only takes the Senate [00:14:45] with Cory Booker, but also takes [00:14:49] several Democratic districts [00:14:51] in this state, in the Garden State. [00:14:55] We are waiting for the vote [00:14:59] count to advance here in New York [00:15:02] City and in New York State [00:15:06] that happens. The projections definitely, according to the [00:15:09] news agencies, are that these seats will be for the [00:15:13] Democrats. Let's remember that New [00:15:15] York is a state that has traditionally [00:15:19] been Democratic and is a state that in its [00:15:22] projections has always had the [00:15:25] Democratic Party candidates as [00:15:28] winners. However, that district [00:15:31] 17 was very close and it is expected [00:15:34] that it will also be won by [00:15:43] the election of the governor in New York, Henry. There are already [00:15:47] results that mark an irreversible trend, [00:15:50] an election trend. This also marks a comeback [00:15:53] practically for the [00:15:56] Democratic wing [00:15:59] within several key states that are [00:16:02] also developing this day, no, we are [00:16:05] seeing it, we are reviewing it [00:16:08] at this time of night where the official count is [00:16:12] also advancing, the consolidation of [00:16:15] results is also advancing, including the congratulations that have been [00:16:19] arriving from what is [00:16:23] precisely the Democratic wing, the [00:16:25] party's X account that is also disputing the governorships, [00:16:29] the 435 seats in the House of [00:16:32] Representatives where the Democrat [00:16:34] Kari has been elected governor over [00:16:38] her opponent Brooks Blackman, the [00:16:40] Republican. What has Henry marked regarding this [00:16:43] election for it to be defined in this way? [00:17:01] Well, it has been [00:17:03] a rather controversial election, if [00:17:07] one could say it that way, because [00:17:10] Governor Hochul [00:17:13] has received many criticisms here in New [00:17:16] York City and in the state due to certain policies [00:17:20] she has been implementing, among them the collection [00:17:23] of tolls, congestion charges. [00:17:26] These are tolls that were installed throughout [00:17:30] the city to cross into Manhattan. Let's remember [00:17:33] that New York City [00:17:37] is made up of five boroughs. Manhattan is [00:17:40] an island and therefore, to access it, [00:17:43] you have to enter either through tunnels [00:17:47] or bridges. Before these fees, [00:17:51] crossings were free for any vehicles. [00:17:54] Nowadays, to enter Manhattan, [00:17:58] each vehicle has to pay $9. [00:18:01] This has [00:18:06] living and of all [00:18:09] the people who need to work in the [00:18:13] city, uh, cars that make [00:18:16] deliveries of goods, to [00:18:20] taxi drivers themselves, and this has [00:18:23] created discomfort among many, many people. [00:18:27] Even business owners have been complaining [00:18:30] about the lack of public [00:18:32] influx. People who used to go to [00:18:36] Manhattan on weekends stopped doing so due to [00:18:39] these high costs, [00:18:42] because between the high cost of gasoline and the tolls [00:18:46] that were put in place as [00:18:49] congestion fees, it has [00:18:52] been very difficult for many people to access [00:18:55] Manhattan. This has seriously [00:18:58] impacted businesses. Many of these [00:19:01] people demanded that Governor [00:19:05] Kathy Hochul should remove [00:19:08] those congestion tolls, however, she refused [00:19:12] to do so. That has not brought many of the expected [00:19:15] results. A [00:19:18] decrease in [00:19:21] city pollution was expected, something that, [00:19:24] statistically, has not been able to be measured as having good [00:19:28] results beyond raising much more [00:19:31] money for the city and that in the end, people are not [00:19:35] really seeing how that money is being invested. That [00:19:39] point was quite controversial and was one [00:19:43] of the points for which her [00:19:45] opponent Bruce Blakeman [00:19:49] was attacking Governor Kathy Hochul. [00:19:52] However, as I was telling [00:19:55] you before, New York is a Democratic state [00:19:59] and beyond even what [00:20:02] could be the vote in favor of Governor Kathy [00:20:06] Hochul for her management, according to analysts, it is a vote [00:20:10] that goes against [00:20:13] the Republicans, against the policies they have been implementing [00:20:17] during this second term of Donald [00:20:19] Trump. We will see how Governor [00:20:23] Hochul, from this new, this [00:20:27] new mandate, will address all these complaints [00:20:31] that have been presented by both merchants and [00:20:35] residents regarding congestion charges [00:20:38] and other issues in which [00:20:41] she simply has not addressed [00:20:45] those needs and those [00:20:48] calls from New Yorkers. It is [00:20:52] expected that this will somehow be addressed [00:20:55] once she resumes activities. It is [00:20:59] 9:20 and we are [00:21:03] still receiving preliminary [00:21:06] data. We are also waiting for what happens [00:21:10] in Westchester County, which, as I told [00:21:13] you, these results will take a little longer [00:21:17] because they have to transport the scanners [00:21:20] to the polling centers to be able [00:21:23] to carry out the counting of the forms [00:21:27] that could not be scanned due to machine failures. [00:21:31] We are very attentive here to each [00:21:41] election in New York has turned out. It has [00:21:45] fallen into the hands of the Democrats. [00:21:48] Kathy Hochul is the new governor with 75% over [00:21:52] her opponent, the Republican who did not even reach [00:21:56] 30%. We review it, moreover, within this [00:22:00] election, within this victory for the Democrats, it must be said that [00:22:03] the cost and quality of life have also weighed, another [00:22:07] of the axes that continues to revolve around the economic [00:22:11] theme within the United States. The current governor also decides [00:22:15] to implement policies different from those of the Republicans, she has said during [00:22:18] her recent statements, among them a different [00:22:22] migratory policy. I ask you, Mariana, how easy, how [00:22:25] difficult will it be to change, to turn around [00:22:28] this situation as it is currently being handled by the Donald [00:22:32] Trump administration? Very complicated to modify immigration policy [00:22:35] in general, uh, yes, it is relevant to consider [00:22:39] that specific resources have been [00:22:42] proposed until 2029, but again, I think [00:22:45] what is relevant is the way, [00:22:48] the way in which policy is applied, which can [00:22:52] be decisive. In the following days and [00:22:55] months we will be able to identify if it was just a campaign [00:22:59] promise or a real policy of change in various [00:23:02] states. This, without a doubt, still draws [00:23:05] the internal map, the political map, but in some [00:23:09] way it helps us to understand what factors, above [00:23:13] all, are tilting this balance in favor of the Democrats [00:23:16] at this moment over the Republicans. Yes, in fact, the [00:23:20] three seats that the Democratic [00:23:23] Party needs in the Senate to have a majority [00:23:26] are precisely many of those states [00:23:30] that we will have some news from last. [00:23:34] Alaska, as you said, Paola, [00:23:37] a very complex election in Iowa, Kansas, Maine, [00:23:41] Michigan, Ohio, and Texas, which we [00:23:44] are also following very closely in these states. [00:23:48] The Democratic Party only needs three to have [00:23:51] a majority in the upper house. [00:23:55] And precisely in the midst of this whole panorama, we will continue [00:23:58] to reflect the results, which is what people want [00:24:04] of both the House of Representatives and the Senate is advancing, [00:24:08] which, moreover, we reiterate the information, one [00:24:12] of the seats is in favor of the Democrats, they still need [00:24:15] three to have a majority. This also helps us to visualize [00:24:19] precisely. Let's look at the House of Representatives [00:24:22] at this moment to be able to graph, to be able to show [00:24:26] you how this voting is developing, how it is also consolidating, [00:24:30] Mariana, sharing with you [00:24:33] so far 29 for the Republicans, [00:24:36] let's update this data [00:24:40] once more, 36 for the Republicans, 72 for [00:24:43] the Democrats and zero for the independents. That is [00:24:47] the result we share with you when it is 10:24 [00:24:51] p.m. We are seeing an interesting comeback for the [00:24:54] Democratic wing, uh, this is exceeding expectations [00:24:58] or is it what was already expected to happen? There is a trend [00:25:02] and it seems to be consolidating, [00:25:06] but again, I think there was an expectation regarding [00:25:09] previous elections where opinion polls [00:25:13] do not necessarily reflect in terms of voting and a little bit to [00:25:17] that, uh, you understand uh, those of us who are... are [00:25:20] observing and closely following this special [00:25:24] program, uh, it has to do with the fact [00:25:28] that many people, when they are interviewed after casting their [00:25:31] vote, do not necessarily say, uh, the real [00:25:35] vote they cast, but rather what others hear. And then, [00:25:38] well, what has happened in various elections is that [00:25:42] exit polls did not necessarily [00:25:44] reflect the electoral results. Until [00:25:48] now, everything seems to indicate that opinion polls are [00:25:52] very close to the actual vote we are seeing in the [00:25:56] electoral results. Now, amidst all this, congratulations [00:26:03] is, what has defined the seats, that, [00:26:07] also the results that mark [00:26:10] this within the Democrats and the [00:26:14] Republicans themselves. For example, let's [00:26:17] share what the official account of the [00:26:20] Democratic Party has, [00:26:23] uh, Democrat John Ossoff has been re-elected to the [00:26:26] Senate, United States. [00:26:29] This is also what marks the seat for Georgia, meaning [00:26:33] Democrats retain this seat in Georgia, another of the key [00:26:37] axes also within this electoral process, [00:26:40] Mariana. So far, Democrats have not lost any seats. Again, [00:26:44] we have to wait for the next results, but [00:26:47] Republicans have lost one, at least in the Senate [00:26:50] and the lower [00:26:54] chamber, the House of Representatives, 77 [00:26:57] seats go to the Democratic Party, 40 to [00:27:01] the Republican Party. We still have 318 [00:27:04] seats to define, but it's the states [00:27:08] that some of them have had complications in terms of counting, voting, [00:27:12] and accusations that we are missing. Alaska will be the [00:27:15] last, where there were more problems, where [00:27:18] even the Department of Justice of the United States decides [00:27:22] to get involved and assures that they could [00:27:24] guarantee stolen elections, so they say, [00:27:27] amidst a confusion that has been generated there, amidst the accusations. [00:27:31] Which is very worrying, especially in [00:27:35] democracies, even putting that in the atmosphere [00:27:38] and in the collective imaginary, because that opens the [00:27:42] possibility that the entire election is in question and that [00:27:45] has a problem of, uh, conflicts, not in terms of [00:27:49] policy positioning. It's not a minor detail, taking into account also the [00:27:53] map and a complex night, we say once [00:27:56] again, for the Republican, for the party and for the President of the United [00:27:59] States Donald Trump. Let's add from Texas, [00:28:03] our colleague José Leveña with the [00:28:14] state of Texas. The polling stations closed [00:28:17] and from the previous round now we see [00:28:20] how Talarico has [00:28:23] surpassed Ken Paxton, [00:28:26] also Jine Hojosa, also in the House of [00:28:30] Representatives, the Democrats [00:28:32] would be in the [00:28:36] both chambers and the election for governor they would be [00:28:39] ahead of the Republicans. Only 5% of the votes [00:28:43] have been counted, but if this very preliminary [00:28:47] trend is confirmed, it would be a blue tsunami in the state of [00:28:50] Texas. [00:28:54] José, and amidst all this scenario, finally I want to [00:28:57] ask you, uh, about any controversy [00:29:01] that has arisen where you are. Peaceful elections, unlike what [00:29:04] has been reported, for example, in complaints in Alaska or New York, how [00:29:08] has it been, what has transpired in the state where [00:29:10] you are? Here, the elections have been [00:29:14] peaceful, as we have commented, most of the [00:29:17] people have voted in early voting, the early [00:29:20] vote that ended last Friday, and by mail. [00:29:24] So most of the day we have seen the [00:29:28] polling stations empty and now they are preparing to [00:29:31] count votes to see if tonight [00:29:35] we have the results. The Democratic Party's [00:29:38] celebration centers are in Austin, the capital, while [00:29:42] the Republicans moved theirs to [00:29:44] Dallas. [00:29:46] Thank you, José Leveña, we are very attentive to this panorama as the [00:29:50] results continue to be consolidated. We also share with [00:29:53] you in real time, this is registered in the election of [00:29:57] governor in the state of Pennsylvania, one of the states that also [00:30:00] closed quite quickly. [00:30:02] Influx of people, what they were also telling us [00:30:06] Josh Shapiro is consolidated as governor with that [00:30:09] 67.2% against his opponent Staisy [00:30:12] Garrity who only obtained that [00:30:15] 31.7%, [00:30:17] we have it there as an official result, this [00:30:21] also consolidates a resounding victory of [00:30:24] that 67.2 over only 31.7% [00:30:26] of Republicans, Mariana, [00:30:30] yes, we are seeing how the Democratic [00:30:33] wing is occupying important spaces [00:30:37] and someone was asking, will it be a wave or [00:30:40] a blue tsunami, a wave [00:30:43] or a blue tsunami, that's what our guest says at this hour, what [00:30:47] is certain is that it could have gone against any [00:30:51] Republican prediction, because the pollsters even spoke of a [00:30:54] 94% probability of controlling not [00:30:57] only the US Congress but also the...