TRTWORLD — Roundtable 20260806 083000 UTC 384 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] shipments facing a 12 and a half percent duty. Washington [00:00:03] introduced the measures over forced labor concerns targeting [00:00:07] products like chemicals and optical equipment. [00:00:10] Singapore says it found no evidence of forced labor in its [00:00:14] exports but warned that restrictions could hurt global supply [00:00:18] chains. Meanwhile, Brazil's central bank [00:00:21] has cut its benchmark interest rate for fourth straight meeting, [00:00:25] lowering it to 14%. But authorities say they will [00:00:29] remain. cautious as higher oil prices and inflation risks [00:00:33] continue to cloud the outlook. the latest decision comes less [00:00:37] than two months before Brazil's presidential election, with inflation [00:00:41] remaining key concern for many [00:00:43] a [00:00:46] of voters. and Australia posted a trade surplus of $1.4 billion [00:00:50] dollars in June [00:00:51] a after deficit in May. the surprise recovery was driven [00:00:54] by nearly 10% jump in exports led by stronger [00:00:58] shipments of metal or and coal, [00:01:01] of but analysts say [00:01:02] a Australia's trade position is still weakening as the [00:01:05] of long-running commodity boom begins to [00:01:07] fade [00:01:22] let us look atuh some of our top stories um [00:01:26] this hour, and Iran's... [00:01:30] says it has reached an understanding with oman a route for ships [00:01:33] transiting through the straight of [00:01:46] Baits is in the studio with the [00:01:47] details. [00:01:56] of [00:02:13] of [00:02:34] of of [00:02:47] a [00:03:46] of [00:03:56] Hello and welcome back to the news hour reminder then of our [00:03:59] a top stories and Iran has said that it's reached an [00:04:02] understanding with oman on route for ships transiting the straight of [00:04:06] homos. The Pakistani [00:04:09] a mediators have been speaking on these US Iran talks saying [00:04:13] that it hopes the Homas agreement will lead to the resumption of [00:04:17] of discussions. Israel's continued challing [00:04:21] in southern Lebanon has wounded at least four people in overnight [00:04:25] strikes, taking place as delegates from both countries [00:04:29] are in [00:04:29] of Rome. discussing the [00:04:33] in of next phase of a gradual Israeli withdraw [00:04:33] of from southern Lebanon. [00:04:38] of of now three people have been killed in overnight strikes by Russia on Ukraine's eastern city, all [00:04:42] of Balakilia in the Hakiv region. [00:04:45] of of rescue operations are underway as team struggle to clear Debry. It [00:04:49] comes after at least 17 people were killed and dozens [00:04:53] injured by a barrage of Russian missiles and drones that was launched at [00:04:57] Keiv and the surrounding region. Earlier [00:05:00] on Wednesday. Now, soon after the attacks, [00:05:04] Ukraine's president spoke with NATO and its allies [00:05:08] calling for more support. Vladimir Zelensky has also been... [00:05:12] hosting the UK's defense secretary in kieve telling him that [00:05:16] Moscow wants to further escalate the [00:05:18] conflict. we think that we need the [00:05:22] unanimity and we need strong support [00:05:24] from from your country and from all other European France [00:05:28] that it this is a signal also that Russia gives us [00:05:32] and to the wall that they don't want to stop and I [00:05:36] think that they want to continue and I mean increase [00:05:39] escalation yes using the... ballistic missiles [00:05:43] and we have our estimation, i want to share with you, we [00:05:47] have estimation that they will have, they will increase the production of [00:05:51] such ballistic missiles. [00:05:54] okay, joe Flynn joins us live from key, [00:05:58] and joe, these, there is an obvious optic [00:06:02] here, isn't there in Russian strikes on Ukrainian [00:06:05] territory, just talk us through the [00:06:07] latest, [00:06:11] yeah, as you men and we overnight saw few [00:06:15] casualties in places, including in [00:06:17] the the eastern part the the front line, but also in the north insumi as well, russian glide bombs there [00:06:21] hitting sumi city, injuring number of people and also resulting [00:06:25] a couple of deaths, [00:06:26] it is normal evening, normal night for Ukraine, but one that is [00:06:30] increasingly concerning of course in the context the ballistic missiles and the lack of [00:06:34] air defenses that Ukraine currently has, Vladimir Zelinski there talking [00:06:38] to uh the UK defense minister was streating, we know that he has been having conversations [00:06:42] yesterday. to [00:06:43] with Mark Rutter about how Ukraine can accelerate [00:06:46] access to European partners, interceptors, things [00:06:50] that are actually able to shoot down these ballistic missiles, because currently Ukraine [00:06:54] basically has nothing. The key element of this is the US Patriot [00:06:58] system, there are conversations between Kiev and Washington [00:07:02] DC over both access to patriot systems, to patriot [00:07:05] interceptor missiles themselves, but also about Ukraine's ability to [00:07:09] manufacture patriots in the future. The... key fact in all of [00:07:13] this is the lead time that it would take to to do so, even with [00:07:17] patriot systems getting green lit today, we would still be looking at the middle of next year before [00:07:20] those will be able to come on stream and possibly even later before they're actually able to be [00:07:24] integrated into Ukrainian air defense. In the meantime, [00:07:28] Ukraine is working incredibly hard to try and boost its own [00:07:32] defensive um domestic manufacturing [00:07:35] capabilities, defense firms here that we've been talking to over the last couple of days and that we [00:07:39] are talking to uh in the the coming days as well - are really [00:07:42] trying to move forward quickly tandem with their European partners, [00:07:46] but there are significant road blocks, chief among them is how they [00:07:50] pay for it, and those are conversations too that both NATO and Vladimir [00:07:54] Zelinski will trying to have in European capitals. J, there are also [00:07:58] other pressures aren't there facing um President [00:08:01] Zelensky uh domestically um [00:08:05] within within the party and his cabinet as well, um, we've [00:08:08] seen people being put to one side and and new positions or new... [00:08:12] stepping into these positions, but I want to just concentrate um [00:08:16] very quickly on the price that [00:08:20] Ukrainian forces are paying. Um, how are we [00:08:23] on conscription, because there were issues number of months [00:08:27] ago, and do we still have this element of war [00:08:30] fatigue? [00:08:34] Yeah, there is definitely an element of that at the moment, [00:08:37] Ukraine is trying to conduct this conflict in [00:08:41] a very asymmetric. sense that is to say that the Russian tactics that they've employed for [00:08:45] most the last four and a half years have really focused on [00:08:49] what many people consider to be an expendable attitude towards human life in [00:08:53] and around trying to take frontline positions, particularly in the [00:08:56] Donbas area, that's where of course we see most the heaviest fighting, that is [00:09:00] where we have the largest number of uh small FPV drones that [00:09:04] are um being seen in in video on social media and [00:09:08] um we saw instance of that this week, but how that manifests itself going [00:09:11] forwards? think is is is key in this drone conversation, because the drones of [00:09:15] course bring a very different advantage, they are able to save human lives because they don't put [00:09:19] people in danger in the same way. okay, Gelflin, thank you very much [00:09:35] you what those stock piles are comprised of. they do remain [00:09:38] heavily dependent on foreign support. President Zelensky. [00:09:42] said that Keeve couldn't intercept any the Russian [00:09:46] missiles that were targeted at it on Wednesday, [00:09:50] overnight, Tuesday into Wednesday, because they had nothing to shoot [00:09:54] back. Now after the attacks, President Zelensky, adding that [00:09:57] supplies of air defense missiles fell by two-thirds in [00:10:01] the first half of this year, compared with the same period in [00:10:05] 2025, so the army is experiencing a [00:10:09] shortage, particularly of those US-made patriots. [00:10:12] missiles, the president has requested [00:10:16] license to produce patriots domestically, but the white [00:10:19] house hasn't yet made decision, we did have the decision, but [00:10:23] then the president rolled back. that President Trump, so Keve is also [00:10:27] aiming to produce its own interceptors. Ukrainian defense [00:10:31] company Firepoint is currently developing an interceptor known [00:10:35] as the Freyer project. So that's where we [00:10:38] stand. For further analysis on this, I'm joined now by [00:10:42] Alexe Muraviyev, who is in Perth in Australia, a [00:10:46] senior research fellow in defense and strategic studies [00:10:50] at Edith Cawen University. Welcome to the [00:10:52] program, just how... pariluss a position is [00:10:56] Ukraine in at the moment? [00:11:00] Look, Ukraine right now is is in completely different [00:11:03] position to compared to where it [00:11:07] was when uh Russia launched its invasion uh of [00:11:11] the country. Right now Ukraine has almost lost all [00:11:15] of its indigenous defense capability, Russia managed to destroy [00:11:18] it, and is now entirely [00:11:21] dependent on on on the supply of western military. [00:11:25] technology, the Ukraine also faces different sort of [00:11:28] challenge, which is logistical challenge, [00:11:31] because [00:11:33] it it it [00:11:33] it is, it is supplied with a multitude of [00:11:37] of different defense systems and each them [00:11:41] require unique approach, each them require a [00:11:45] different set of munitions, and that just [00:11:49] amalgamates the problem, and and once the [00:11:52] Ukrainians are sort of continue to make request and please [00:11:56] about - needing more of western support, I [00:12:00] think there is needs to be a reality check, because since [00:12:04] the since the start the war uh the western coalition [00:12:07] supplied Ukraine with some 100 air [00:12:11] defense systems and several hundreds of surface to [00:12:15] air missiles, well by comparison when [00:12:18] Ukraine became independent in [00:12:22] 1992, it inherited a full integrated air [00:12:25] defense system from the Soviet Union, which at that time [00:12:29] comprised just over [00:12:31] 220 air defense system, [00:12:34] so if you if you compare it, the western allies the [00:12:38] past four years supplied half of what Ukraine [00:12:42] inherited from the former Soviet Union, and that's a [00:12:45] significant chunk [00:12:49] of western supplied military technology, [00:12:52] something that cannot simply be sustained. in terms of [00:12:56] continuous supply forever because uh systems dry up and [00:12:59] when when munitions dry up or the russians destroy [00:13:03] them one by one and and and [00:13:06] and and the west is facing a significant dilemma because the [00:13:10] stocks that the west has of advanced air defense [00:13:13] systems as well as munitions is not endless [00:13:16] and certainly the war in in Iran that's been said [00:13:20] many times have dried up what what the United States managed to [00:13:24] accumulate. "and the production capacity the [00:13:27] United States predominantly [00:13:29] and to less extent some uh key western European countries [00:13:33] is quite limited [00:13:34] to replain stocks for for their own forces in the first [00:13:38] instance leave alone to whatever they can share with the [00:13:41] Ukrainians. Alexay, we are heading into winter, [00:13:45] these talks that were were held in last 24 hours were part of a winter [00:13:48] resilience meeting. I'm just thinking if nothing [00:13:52] is done and we head into winter..." "what sort of [00:13:56] territorial advantages does Ukraine [00:14:00] risk losing if NATO and its allies do [00:14:03] nothing, can they afford to not do [00:14:06] something? look, I [00:14:10] mean it's it's a question whether they can afford not to [00:14:14] do something or whether they can afford to strip themselves [00:14:18] uh metaphorically naked if if they seriously [00:14:21] considering that there is going to be clesh" between Russia [00:14:25] and need around the year 2030 if not if not [00:14:29] early and and certainly when it comes to strategic and defense planning, [00:14:33] it's not about uh just responding to whatever is happening right [00:14:37] now, it's also thinking over the horizon and and [00:14:40] obviously defense procurement requires a pretty [00:14:44] lengthy time spends in in terms of what Ukraine is [00:14:48] risking of losing while the Russians have been very clear what what they want in terms [00:14:51] of territorial grabs, they want the... remainder the [00:14:55] danbas region plus parts of what they describe as [00:14:59] novrossia meaning parts the [00:15:02] Perisya as well [00:15:04] as Herson regions which are currently under Ukraine's [00:15:07] control, but even even that I think one the [00:15:10] key challenges that we face when we try to [00:15:14] understand Russia's intentions in [00:15:16] in in Ukraine, Russia is not so much preoccupied about territorial [00:15:20] expense, they are there to destroy the capacity of [00:15:24] Ukraine. to posse any security risk down the track down the [00:15:28] track and and and therefore they focusing on on [00:15:32] literally dismantly in Ukraine's human capacity as [00:15:35] well as its um defense capabilities and and [00:15:39] by that they also sort of dismantle whatever [00:15:43] NATO is is is having because NATO is effectively given [00:15:46] away significant chunks of this arsenal to to the [00:15:50] Ukrainians so this is in my view what [00:15:53] Russia uh pursues in the first instance so [00:15:57] whatever whatever Ukraine may be losing between now and and [00:16:01] winter may look insignificant in terms of territorial [00:16:05] expense but what would be [00:16:07] significant can be measured in terms of [00:16:11] how many more soldiers Ukraine will lose, how many more civilians [00:16:15] Ukraine will lose and how many more military equipment which is really [00:16:19] expensive Ukraine may lose as results of this [00:16:22] ongoing campaign with the [00:16:32] Myanmar's leader is in Thailand on an official visit [00:16:36] as Bangkok push. for re-engagement with its wartorn [00:16:39] neighbor and Asian, the regional block. now their [00:16:43] leaders have been barred from Asian summits since [00:16:46] 2021, when Min Ong Hang [00:16:50] staged a coup against the elected government of [00:16:53] Angsansuchi. It all led to a civil war that killed an [00:16:56] estimated 100,00 people. Min is the [00:17:00] subject of raft of western sanctions and has been seeking [00:17:04] international legitimacy since becoming president [00:17:07] April and this follows an election that he won [00:17:10] overwhelmingly by an army-backed party in the [00:17:14] absence of any viable [00:17:16] opposition. So uh, [00:17:20] the president is currently a two-day visit to [00:17:23] Thailand uh on Thursday, putting a [00:17:27] trade and cross-border crime on the agenda along [00:17:31] their shared frontier. Now, just to put things into context for you, [00:17:35] Bangkok is seeking closer cooperation. particularly against networks [00:17:39] that have survived repeated crackdowns um as the former [00:17:42] junter leader tries to restore formal ties in the region so let's take a look at [00:17:46] one of those issues. now the [00:17:50] UN has pointed out that town in southeastern [00:17:53] Myanmar, it's known as Mawadi, has now become a [00:17:57] major cyber scam and human trafficking hub. [00:18:01] workers, we understand, are lured there with fake jobs into [00:18:05] industrial compounds and then force. to run romance and [00:18:09] cryptocurrency investment scams targeting victims [00:18:12] worldwide. Back in February 2025, Bangkok, [00:18:16] you remember cut electricity, internet and fuel to five [00:18:20] Myanmar border areas, then tighten telecom banking and border [00:18:23] checks. Thailand also helped to free around 5,000 [00:18:27] people trapped in Myanmar scam centers. Rights groups [00:18:31] estimate that more than 5,300 foreign nationals are [00:18:35] still being held in four. these sites that have been [00:18:39] identified, so last month, Myanmar passed a law authorizing [00:18:43] life imprisonment for operating scam center, whilst [00:18:46] violent coersion can carry the death penalty [00:18:50] if victim dies, the UN is saying [00:18:53] that the networks are outpacing enforcement using AI [00:18:57] and expanding after taking at least 80 88 billion [00:19:01] dollars from Asia Pacific victims in [00:19:03] 2025. Okay. [00:19:07] more than decade after a conflict has [00:19:11] left deep scars across Syria, many them invisible, [00:19:15] years of violence have taken a heavy psychological toll, [00:19:19] particularly a generation that has grown up knowing little but war. [00:19:23] well, in Aleppo, young Syrians are turning to music and cultural [00:19:26] spaces to reconnect with one another and begin the journey to [00:19:30] healing. no Cormash [00:19:31] reports, [00:19:35] the sound of a guitar, a familiar melody or simply [00:19:39] singing alongside friends. For many young Syrians, [00:19:43] these moments have become far more than music. They are [00:19:47] small but meaningful steps toward healing after years of [00:19:51] conflict that disrupted nearly every aspect of daily [00:19:54] life. [00:20:00] I come here to sing because it's a safe place for many people and for [00:20:03] me it's a place negative energy. me [00:20:07] break the barriers between me and other people, i used to get nervous [00:20:11] easily and over time i [00:20:13] improved. this is very important [00:20:17] space for people who have talent but are afraid and the environment [00:20:21] here is very supportive. the [00:20:24] united nations says millions of syrians continue to grapple with the [00:20:28] psychological and social scars of more than decade of [00:20:32] war, but as life gradually returns to normal in post [00:20:35] Assad Syria, ers [00:20:38] say rebuilding social connections in spaces like this community hall [00:20:42] is just as important as rebuilding damaged infrastructure, [00:20:46] particularly for a generation shaped by years of uncertainty. [00:21:20] but a place of comfort whether for studying, working or connecting with [00:21:23] others. It also helps people build relationships with the community [00:21:27] and supports them a personal level. Young people here [00:21:31] say these spaces offer far more than just music and [00:21:34] entertainment. For many, they provide rare sense of normalcy and [00:21:38] a chance to reconnect after years of hardships and [00:21:41] uncertainty. They say simply spending time together, sharing a live [00:21:45] and enjoying everyday moments reflects the resilience of an entire [00:21:49] generation. that has grown up through one the most devastating [00:21:52] conflicts in the modern era, one that is determined to [00:21:56] reclaim a sense of hope and rebuild its future. no [00:22:00] commercialt world, alipo, syria. 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[00:30:10] Hello, you're watching TRT World, I'm laquest for reminder of our main [00:30:13] headlines: Iran says it's reached an [00:30:16] understanding with Oman a route for ships [00:30:20] transiting the straight of Homus, but Terran has also [00:30:23] warned that just an agreement doesn't guarantee safe passage [00:30:27] through the straight due to the US Nadal blockade. Officials [00:30:31] in Washington had hoped. agreement to open the straight would happen this [00:30:35] week, president Trump says talks with Iran are still ongoing despite teran [00:30:38] earlier denying holding direct negotiations with the [00:30:42] US. I can say that the latest [00:30:46] situation is that almost all the topics are under discussion, [00:30:50] the map, the transit routes, the entering and exiting of...