TRTWORLD — News 20260915 090000 UTC 476 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:10] Welcome back, you're watching TRT World, I'm Neil Harvey, and these are your headlines: [00:00:14] three people, including two children have been killed in Saudi led [00:00:17] coalition air strikes in [00:00:19] of Yemen's Taise province, according to Hoothiron media, the strikes coming as [00:00:23] Saudi Arabia, it said it would respond firmly to hoothy attacks that injured [00:00:27] of 13 civilians in three Saudi cities. The UN says fighting in [00:00:31] Yemen has forced 125,00 people from their homes since [00:00:35] just [00:00:35] of the start [00:00:36] of the month. 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[00:02:44] of [00:02:54] of [00:03:11] Welcome, [00:03:11] of I am Brenda Zadaradido and this is Africa [00:03:15] matters. The UN general assembly has voted to [00:03:18] in adopt a new world map that shows Africa's true size. [00:03:22] It was backed by 164 countries and [00:03:25] of only opposed by the United States. Could changing the [00:03:28] of map also change how the continent is represented and [00:03:31] seen, [00:03:37] for decades, the market projection has been used as the world map, but it [00:03:41] makes the African continent appear smaller than it [00:03:45] actually is. now look closely at the makita map, the [00:03:49] one classrooms and institutions have used for generations. [00:03:53] it distorts size by enlarging areas near the pools while [00:03:56] shrinking Africa in comparison. now here, [00:04:00] Africa sits alongside Europe and North America at [00:04:04] their true relative sizes. The difference is [00:04:07] dramatic. At over 30 million square kilometers, the [00:04:11] African continent is bigger than you've ever seen it a [00:04:15] map. Set question, so this issue goes far [00:04:18] beyond just the sphere of map making or cartography. It [00:04:22] has to do with cognitive justice, with access to precise [00:04:26] geographical knowledge, the dignity of people, [00:04:29] in history. memory and the fight against [00:04:32] of representations that we have inherited and have influence [00:04:36] on perception. now the resolution led by Tugo and [00:04:40] supported by the African Union [00:04:42] of secured overwhelming support from [00:04:44] of 164 UN member countries that voted yes. now [00:04:48] six nations chose to abstain from the vote while the United [00:04:52] States was the only country to oppose the resolution. instead of [00:04:56] focusing on genuine problems of international peace, prosperity, [00:05:00] of good relations, this body is debating map projects from the 16th [00:05:04] century and their role in promoting [00:05:06] of reparations and cognitive justice. resolutions like [00:05:10] this one and the ideological agen they promote, our [00:05:13] barnacles on our [00:05:15] work here, and the reason this institution is losing its [00:05:18] credibility. now the UN vote has drawn mix reactions from [00:05:21] across the continent, we went to the streets of Johannesburg, compala [00:05:25] and freeetown to find out what people think about the new map, here [00:05:29] is what they had to say. the size the map can just be used [00:05:33] as something in passing, but it doesn't change perceptions about how [00:05:37] Africans can make their countries better. i don't think the size the map [00:05:40] mattered that much. accept that is factual error that was [00:05:44] made, i can say vividly and strongly that it's going to [00:05:48] influence more people on our view Africa, because when [00:05:52] they will be making decision the will say, we don't need to forget that African map [00:05:56] is big now, we don't need to forget as Africa territory is [00:05:59] large, we don't need to forget that the population of Africa is bigger than [00:06:03] before, if new map has been adopted for the world, that means [00:06:07] even what is being taught in schools to the [00:06:11] levels of uh... grade one until the [00:06:14] university, that means that actually has to be changed, that means we [00:06:18] have to go back and recheck the policies we have. let's hear more from Victor [00:06:22] Makonyebu, he's director of grants, programs and [00:06:25] partnerships, Africa North Filter Foundation, he joins me from [00:06:29] Lagos, Nigeria, Victor, thank you for joining us here on Africa matters, [00:06:33] you're one the people were behind this push to ensure that Africa is [00:06:37] well represented, but when we look at the mekat map projection versus [00:06:40] the equal arth projection. why did your [00:06:43] organization run the you know campaign correct [00:06:47] the map campaign? the met [00:06:50] projection was produced in the 16th century [00:06:54] as a tool for european navigation and it [00:06:57] subsequently became the world's most widely used [00:07:01] projection in classrooms in in [00:07:05] media houses, policy spaces and just generally [00:07:09] within the society, which shouldn't have been the case. [00:07:13] um, the challenge that this map projection [00:07:17] has is that it systematically distors [00:07:20] spill um, obviously for [00:07:23] navigational convenience, here's what it does, it [00:07:27] inflates the spaces that are closer to the poles [00:07:30] like North America, Europe, [00:07:33] Russia, Greenland, all of those [00:07:36] countries and continents that are closer to the poles while [00:07:40] at the same time shrinking. or minimizing the [00:07:44] sizes the countries that are closer to the [00:07:48] equator, which we mostly you refer to as [00:07:51] global south, especially Africa and other equatorial [00:07:55] regions, and so this correction by the United Nations is [00:07:59] beyond a technical or cartographic [00:08:03] one, but also an act of cognitive [00:08:05] justice justice because it [00:08:09] speaks to the question of whose narrative. and whose [00:08:13] perspective is of held for too long, Africans [00:08:17] have normalized misrepresentations and sometimes [00:08:20] outright false about the continent of Africa [00:08:24] and its people, and we are really happy that we [00:08:28] we now get to [00:08:30] to to be having conversations, we're happy about what now seems to [00:08:34] be very good window of opportunity to challenge these things [00:08:37] and to have th conversations and redress [00:08:41] them, so for you you believe that the move that was made, the [00:08:44] 164 votes that went to this uh [00:08:48] supporting this move um will shift the how [00:08:52] the continent is perceived and if it will shift how the continent is [00:08:55] perceived how will that be done? [00:08:58] we believe that the are very practical [00:09:02] implications of this vote [00:09:05] um believe that the the vote of [00:09:09] course is non-binding one but uh belief [00:09:13] is that future generations will begin to [00:09:16] see a world in its true scale, for [00:09:20] regions that are most affected like Africa, for [00:09:23] instance, this resolution will contribute to shaping how the [00:09:27] world at Africans themselves, who for very [00:09:30] long time have internalized so many [00:09:33] debilitating narratives, onesid stories [00:09:37] about about themselves, you know, about their [00:09:40] land, about their history. about their contributions to [00:09:44] civilization, about their cultural identities, and [00:09:47] just so many more, and so it's going to shape how [00:09:51] our children begin to understand true size the continent [00:09:55] and its historical significance, and we believe that this [00:09:59] will have implications on political decisions, it will [00:10:03] have implications on investment decisions, development [00:10:07] decisions about the continent, so hopefully this will be an [00:10:10] opportunity to begin to disc mantle the unconscious biases [00:10:14] that feeds the perception that the continent of Africa is [00:10:18] peripheral right, but most importantly [00:10:22] it is the opportunity to challenge dominant narrative. that this [00:10:25] window has provided for us and that's really the learning that we are [00:10:29] taking out of this, so both of us do agree that the vote that [00:10:33] was taken is non-binding, um, but [00:10:36] you know the question would be then, so how can the you know the African continent push [00:10:40] for local and global adoption [00:10:44] of this decision that was made? so we believe [00:10:47] that yes, this is non-binding, but [00:10:51] lot more still needs to be done by member states and [00:10:55] independent actors to drive the adoption of this [00:10:58] map, we need to see it in textbooks, we need to see it in [00:11:02] schools, we need to see it in publishing houses, um, we need [00:11:06] to see it in public spaces essentially, the media [00:11:10] organizations need to begin to adopt this, and the [00:11:14] military, navigational institutions, institutions [00:11:18] that deal with maps, to provide [00:11:21] services to the general society, to [00:11:25] see mechanisms put in place by member states to [00:11:29] begin to adopt the usage in, like we say, [00:11:33] everyday usage to be reflected, and I think it really [00:11:37] goes down to the will of member states, because [00:11:41] like we all agree, it's a non-binding resolution, but it's a [00:11:45] non-binding resolution that carries the weight of consensus, and so the [00:11:48] consensus is well, and that's the duty of this, because [00:11:52] despite being symbolic, we believe... that the [00:11:56] the significance the moment is not lost on us, we know that [00:11:59] it is hard enough to build consensus around a small local [00:12:03] issue, but here we are at the moment where [00:12:07] global consensus has been built around issue [00:12:11] historical proportion and significance, so this is a big win for the [00:12:14] continent and our future generations, as they will not have to [00:12:18] grapple with the visual narratives that have [00:12:21] reinforced hierarchy, and I must also add... there [00:12:25] i must also add that visual narratives [00:12:28] and the are instruments of power [00:12:32] that shape how the world is seen and understood [00:12:35] and so we [00:12:38] believe that African countries will seiz the moment to begin to [00:12:42] domesticate the usage the equal earth [00:12:46] projection and also countries outside of Africa to this [00:12:49] moment [00:12:50] of of of commonality working [00:12:54] and f all behind a common purpose, this [00:12:57] collaborative moment that we have found ourselves in, the [00:13:01] historical moment that the whole world has come together to speak with one [00:13:05] voice, and I think all countries should be able to find [00:13:08] way domesticate each usage with ministries of [00:13:12] education, working with publishing houses [00:13:16] and those that produce instructional materials for school textbooks and [00:13:20] all of that, we want to see [00:13:21] countriesticating. in their [00:13:25] their domain all right, so now let's have look at the decision that [00:13:29] the US decided to take, it was the only country that never voted for this, you [00:13:33] know, a proposal that was tabled on the floor the house, [00:13:37] if I may put it that to the UN general assembly, and the [00:13:41] argument was, we should be discussing about other important things and [00:13:44] not [00:13:45] you know changing, changing the map, but how is it likely to [00:13:49] affect its [00:13:50] you know adoption owing to the fact that major tech companies are American [00:13:54] frankly? "we respect the [00:13:57] decision of countries to either vote a no or [00:14:01] to abstain, but the notion that a campaign to [00:14:05] seek more accurate visual representation and [00:14:09] correct tenturies of falsehold is part of radical agenda is just [00:14:13] completely false and I think the overwhelming [00:14:17] majority who voted yes, it's clear evidence that matters of [00:14:21] justice and equity are impressive, the 164 who vote" [00:14:25] ds is evidence of course that demonstratees [00:14:28] that when we come together behind the common purpose and remain [00:14:32] consistent at it, the world will pay attention, and this is the thinking that [00:14:36] has propelled our current not waiting campaign, [00:14:40] which invite storytellers across the continent and the [00:14:43] diaspora to consistently share stories of opportunity, progress [00:14:47] and innovation about africa until it begins to feel [00:14:51] normal to hear such stories about the continent and [00:14:55] people, Africa is not in a tussel with [00:14:58] anyone, we are only asking to be seen and understood [00:15:02] correctly, and I don't think there is anything radical or [00:15:05] scary about that, so countries vote along the lines [00:15:09] their self interest and preservation or the collective interest, and this [00:15:13] vote show the triumph of collective interest wrapped [00:15:16] around social justice and equity, so I believe that [00:15:20] tech companies, wherever their domains are, whether they are based in the United States or [00:15:24] based on... outside the United States in Europe, I think what everybody should be looking at [00:15:28] is the power and the sheer force the consensus that has [00:15:32] been built around this issue right, and that's what [00:15:36] should drive decisions. forward as opposed to very [00:15:39] narrow interests of various countries that voted along the [00:15:43] lines of whatever reasons that they advanced, so I think we should also the [00:15:47] bigger picture, and the bigger picture is moment [00:15:51] of shared purpose, moment of correcting the historical [00:15:55] injustice, moment of [00:15:57] you know achieving equity and understanding and [00:16:00] collaboration, and that's what you know the moment pertains and I [00:16:04] think tech companies wherever they are located should be [00:16:08] see in that picture all right, victor makonyebu, [00:16:12] thank you for your time and for joining us here on Africa Matters, [00:16:15] he's [00:16:16] you know the director of grants programs at partnerships at the African [00:16:20] no Filter Foundation, he was talking to us from Lagos, Nigeria, thank you once [00:16:23] again, still to come here on Africa Marters, I [00:16:27] am aking alaka, let me show you what [00:16:31] Uber's exit from Nigeria means for thousands of [00:16:35] drivers who defended. on the platform for their [00:16:39] livelihoods, [00:16:45] to Nigeria, where Uber has ended 12 years of operations, [00:16:49] shutting down with immediate effect on September 2nd, the [00:16:53] exit is part of a global restructuring that has also seen the company [00:16:56] withdrew from Uganda, now for thousands of drivers, it could mean an [00:17:00] abrupt loss of incomers, akin alaka reports from [00:17:04] Legos, if he has been driven for Uber [00:17:08] since 2018, the federal f has built [00:17:12] most of his household income around this road and this [00:17:15] app. this week, the app went [00:17:19] dark without notice. the major [00:17:22] challenge there, [00:17:24] the the income that was that used to come with not coming the way used to [00:17:28] come, [00:17:29] you know, everything will at least if we are getting [00:17:32] 70%, now it will be going to be 45%. [00:17:36] if any is... alone, dispatch riders on this [00:17:40] route describe years of running the numbers just to break [00:17:44] even, we buy foil very course [00:17:47] and seriously as we don't have anything to do, [00:17:51] that's why we are just using it, because we don't have any option, but at [00:17:55] least sometime we don't have any profit much. [00:17:59] uber's exit comes as a company restructures globally [00:18:03] cutting about 10% of its workforce while reviewing its [00:18:06] investment. This particular exit of Uber [00:18:10] was born out of two things: their global strategy and of [00:18:14] course how easy it was considering the complaints that were [00:18:18] coming from drivers with regards to fairs and all of that that tied [00:18:21] into or you know just made it much more easy to do [00:18:25] what they wanted to do from a global [00:18:28] standpoint. Uber's rivers phase [00:18:31] many the same pressures, but bolts has adapted [00:18:35] it pricing to the local market. while in drive [00:18:39] allows drivers and passengers to negotiate first [00:18:42] directly. Uber may have left Nigeria, [00:18:46] but the rolls it once help drivers navigate are still [00:18:50] busy. For drivers like Ifany, the challenge is to find [00:18:53] another way to make living a market where competition [00:18:57] is fierce, costs arising, and the platform the ones [00:19:01] paid, some the bills is no longer there. [00:19:05] The exit could also reshape. materious ride hally [00:19:08] market when the competitors will be able to absorb the riders, [00:19:12] increase their market share, have more drivers that you know they can [00:19:16] deploy to carrying out this particular ride healing [00:19:19] business. the bigger question for former uber drivers [00:19:23] is what replaces their income and how [00:19:25] soon? aking alaka, african [00:19:29] maters, lagos. to [00:19:33] zimbabwee next where government crackdown on street vendors is [00:19:36] underway. say it's about restoring order, but traders [00:19:40] say it's about survival. as columbusa reports from [00:19:43] hari, affected vendor say they won't be able to make money after the [00:19:47] stock was confiscated. this is 27 year old [00:19:51] to sells and repairs tires by the [00:19:55] roadside in harare, but the council has now [00:19:58] confiscated his stock. i [00:20:02] will have to look for an alternative place to work from for survival, but the [00:20:06] council had. [00:20:37] on vending for our children to go to school for our food and clothes, now we [00:20:41] have nowhere to go and get livelihood, it's now difficult for us. the [00:20:45] government hopes this clean up will restore tiedness and [00:20:49] order in It says the vendors are causing the [00:20:53] chaos on the streets in Zimbabwe, but Gift [00:20:56] Mugano and Economics professor says vendors are [00:21:00] important for the economy, as the World Bank says, the [00:21:04] informal sector employs four in every five workers [00:21:08] in Zimbabwe. Remember, they are not there by [00:21:11] desire, they are in outcome of economic [00:21:14] difficulties of three decade long [00:21:18] economic. down and uh these [00:21:21] are part of resilience building by the general the [00:21:25] population e living. Of course, it's an [00:21:29] ISO in town uh to [00:21:32] see uh traders on door steps of [00:21:36] establish businesses. The Zimbabwean government says the clean [00:21:39] up is not because the upcoming common market for [00:21:43] eastern and southern Africa summit next month. This [00:21:47] is for permanent issue. and we are [00:21:51] going to make sure that we make we [00:21:54] repair the areas, we build the areas that they built [00:21:58] so that they have somewhere to work, but what cannot happen is to [00:22:02] work in unsanitary conditions, everywhere where we block traffic [00:22:06] and create a situation where it is chaotic. [00:22:09] Zimbabwe, last cleared vendors the [00:22:13] streets in 2020 form ahead of a meeting of [00:22:16] leaders from the southern Africa region in [00:22:20] Harare after the meeting, vendors flooded harare streets, [00:22:24] saying they have other source of livelihood. [00:22:28] Colamba zimavunga, Afrika matters harare, [00:22:32] Zimbabwe. Well, siko cell is severe disease that can [00:22:36] cause life threatening complications. It also reduces life [00:22:40] expectancy. Over 10 million people are affected worldwide, most [00:22:44] of whom are in Africa. Until recently, medication had to be [00:22:47] imported, but as Bahar. reports it's [00:22:51] finally being produced in [00:22:52] Africa. Tahiru was three years [00:22:56] old when he was diagnosed with sickle cell [00:23:00] disease. He is now 18 years old. His face has been [00:23:03] blurred to protect his [00:23:05] privacy. It hurts lot [00:23:09] and you suffer so much, [00:23:11] and when you don't have enough resources to protect yourself from the illness, you suffer [00:23:15] even more. My parents are exhausted, I know that. Sickle [00:23:19] cell disease. or cickle cell anemia causes [00:23:23] red blood cells to mutate, their cickle shape [00:23:26] prevents them from bending or moving [00:23:29] easily, so they end up blocking blood flow to [00:23:33] the rest the body. patients can experience serious [00:23:37] health complications such as stroke, lung [00:23:40] problems, kidney disease and chronic [00:23:43] pain. my son is very tired, he has pain [00:23:47] in his feet and at the moment he cannot walk. It is very [00:23:51] difficult, the medication and hospital cost are very expensive, [00:23:55] everyone living with sickle cell disease faces the same [00:23:59] difficulties. The disease affects nearly [00:24:02] 8 million people worldwide with the African continent [00:24:06] accounting for about 80% of sufferus, [00:24:10] more than 1.5 million Nigerians under the age of [00:24:14] 15 are affected, while in the Democratic Republic [00:24:18] the Congo, the... are over 1.3 million [00:24:22] patients. Ethiopia has the third highest number of [00:24:26] cases with 7 under 15's [00:24:30] living with the genetic disease. But now, this [00:24:33] laboratory in Dakar, Senegal is producing generic [00:24:37] hydroxyurea for the first time ever in Africa. It [00:24:41] is the gold standard in sickle cell treatment. [00:24:45] It reduces pain and vessel blockages, but most [00:24:49] importantly... [00:25:01] it is therefore important to manage the demand gradually to ensure the medicine is [00:25:04] available in all these countries, we started with senegal and [00:25:08] niger, the drug is available in Niger as well [00:25:12] as in Burkina Faso and Cameron, we're moving to ever [00:25:16] coast, the Congo and Guine. As the company. [00:25:20] plans to expand supply to the rest the continent by [00:25:23] 2030, health advocates say more [00:25:27] awareness about early screening and pre-marital [00:25:30] testing is also needed to help improve the [00:25:34] quality of life for sickle cell patients. bahar [00:25:38] uygur, africa matters and finally [00:25:42] Sudan's war continues to reshape lives, but its national short stage of [00:25:46] football team is focused a different challenge. the players are: [00:25:50] preparing for the first world cup in Morocco this November, aiming for [00:25:54] more than just participation. now the tournament brings together teams [00:25:58] of athletes with doifism and other forms of short stages from around [00:26:02] the world. with Argentina as reigning champions. Abdallah [00:26:05] Hussein reports from Hartum. At the Sudan Football [00:26:09] Association in Hartum. Preparations are underway for [00:26:13] the country's first appearance at the Short Stature Football World [00:26:16] Cup. [00:26:20] For these players, reaching the tournament has meant continuing to [00:26:24] train through a war that has displaced millions and [00:26:28] disrupted almost every part of [00:26:29] life. for the world cup are [00:26:33] going well, this is our first time competing at this level and simply [00:26:37] representing Sudan despite the war is already an achievement, our [00:26:41] ambition is huge, we want to bring joy to the Sudanese people and give them [00:26:45] the world cup trophy as our gifts. [00:26:49] for the players, simply qualifying is not the end goal, [00:26:53] they want to make their debut even more [00:26:55] significant. hope we can win the world cup, it's [00:26:59] our first time taking part, but we believe we can. do it, my [00:27:03] teammates are equally motivated and preparations are going very [00:27:07] well. training continues through the week with [00:27:11] the players working on fitness, technique and [00:27:14] finishing. among those pushing [00:27:18] them is Ramadan Rahma, a para-athlete and guinness world record [00:27:22] holder whose on journey in sport is now part the [00:27:25] experience he brings to team preparing to make sudan's [00:27:29] world [00:27:39] The team has shown great courage, they were excited to have me with them and my [00:27:43] Guinness World Record gave them an extra boost, I'm proud to see them represent [00:27:47] Sudan and I'm happy to share my experience and play my part through [00:27:50] sport. For a country still living through [00:27:54] war, the team's journey offer something beyond [00:27:57] football, a chance to compete, to be seen and to give [00:28:01] Sudanese people. something to celebrate, [00:28:04] surrounded by the remains of war, they train in the red [00:28:08] stribe of Sudan, those national colors will be the [00:28:12] ticket that takes them a few weeks from these streets [00:28:16] to their country's first short stature football world [00:28:19] cup. Abdullah Hussain, Africa [00:28:22] Matters Khartum. That's a show [00:28:26] this week, tell us whether you'll be using the new world map. We'd love your feedback, [00:28:30] share your thoughts on our African matters. youtube page or an x, [00:28:34] thanks for watching and it's goodbye from me, brenda, zeda, ready [00:28:38] do, [00:29:32] Beyond the game on TRT [00:29:34] World. [00:29:42] Currents never stay where they [00:29:44] begin. [00:29:52] They break through borders, ripple through [00:29:54] communities, settle [00:29:58] where we all home. [00:30:04] And here is where the world becomes [00:30:07] personal. [00:30:31] This was Jamaica a October 2025 after [00:30:34] Hurricane Melissa slammed into the Caribbean Island with sustained [00:30:38] winds of nearly 300 kilometers per hour. [00:30:41] I don't want any of us going to manage how we're going to recuperate from this. [00:30:45] This town, Black River, like many others, was [00:30:48] devastated. Melissa caused an estimated 8.8 [00:30:52] billion dollars in direct damage.