TRTWORLD — Newshour 20260915 110000 UTC 907 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:12] in [00:00:14] of of [00:00:39] of of of [00:00:41] of a a [00:00:44] of [00:00:44] of of [00:00:51] a a [00:01:00] of [00:01:10] in [00:01:13] in [00:01:16] of [00:01:30] from the Turkish capital Ankara, so Hasan, tell me what is to [00:01:33] do out for for you from the press [00:01:35] of conference? Well, Jafar, I [00:01:39] think we can divide their [00:01:41] of talks [00:01:41] in a number of areas, so first of all, you've got [00:01:46] of of regional security, of of of they've talked about two important areas, the situation around Iran and the straight of hormos and then you've [00:01:50] got the Russia, Iran war, as far as the straight of hormos is concerned, the [00:01:54] two foreign ministers talked about the steps that they can [00:01:58] of take to contribute to work, the opening of straight of [00:02:02] hormos and they talked [00:02:04] of [00:02:04] of about uninterrupted movement of vessels there, he said that the [00:02:08] status quo that existed [00:02:10] of before the attack on Iran, that status quo needs [00:02:14] to be restored. They [00:02:15] of also discussed Russia Ukraine war and we heard from the Turkish foreign [00:02:19] minister, he talked [00:02:21] of about how maritime security in the Black Sea region is threatened as [00:02:25] a result of this war that has been going on for more than four and a half [00:02:28] of years and he said Turkey is taking all diplomatic steps [00:02:32] to try and deescalate the situation. He talked about [00:02:36] how energy security is threatened as a result of this [00:02:39] war and how global economies has been suffering. Now of [00:02:43] course, talking about energy security, they also talked [00:02:47] in about the bilateral steps Turkey and Azerbaijan have been [00:02:50] taking and can take to strengthen energy security, that of [00:02:54] course links [00:02:55] of to regional connectivity. They talked about the Nachshivan [00:02:59] corridor. and the challenges that are currently [00:03:03] of of there [00:03:05] of of in of linking mainland Azerbaijan directly to Turkey, the Turkish foreign minister said that that's going [00:03:09] to [00:03:11] of of benefit of not just the entire Turkic world, but Asia broadly connecting directly to [00:03:15] a Europe, it's going to improve trade between [00:03:19] continents, and it's going to have a positive impact on energy [00:03:23] of security for the world as well, and of course then there was the [00:03:26] of [00:03:26] of bilateral dimension in [00:03:28] of terms of trade, they've set a target of... [00:03:30] of 15 of billion dollars, they've achieved about a half of that, and they've [00:03:34] of talked [00:03:34] of about sectors where the two countries can increase imports and export, [00:03:38] they've also discussed [00:03:39] of defense [00:03:40] of cooperation saying that the two countries have achieved a fair bit [00:03:43] together, but there are areas where they plan [00:03:46] in to increase cooperation, and we also heard the [00:03:50] of turkeys forum minister hakan fadan once again [00:03:52] of reiterate Ankara's position on what's going on in the region, he once [00:03:56] again called for freedom of navigation in the straight of hormoon. [00:04:01] of Absolutely, the Turkish position has [00:04:05] been that any blockade, any restrictions around the straight of [00:04:09] hormos or other choke points for that matter are [00:04:12] unacceptable, the Turkish foreign [00:04:14] a minister [00:04:15] of in this meeting, I understand discussed the steps the two countries can take and [00:04:18] how they can use their [00:04:21] of diplomatic muscle to try to convince their partners, now of [00:04:25] course uh while they didn't name anyone in the case of [00:04:28] a Azerbaijan there are certain... is a certain degree of strong relations that [00:04:32] Azerbaijan has with Israel, so there's that leverage that [00:04:36] Azerbaijan can perhaps bring into the equation, while they didn't [00:04:40] mention [00:04:40] of that, of but I understand that perhaps this is one [00:04:43] of the dimensions the two would have discussed, the Turkish [00:04:46] position is that the United States has pivotal role to play in this regard [00:04:50] in trying to get Israel to [00:04:54] not take certain steps that Turkia sees as destabilizing the [00:04:58] region, fascinating, [00:05:17] "the fighting between Yemen's Hooti group and Saudi pack forces is [00:05:21] spreading with both sides continuing to launch attacks overnight is sparking [00:05:25] fears of a full-fledged war. Three people including two children [00:05:29] have been killed in Saudi Lad coalition air strikes in Yemen's Thais [00:05:32] province. That's according to Huti Run Media. Two others have been injured [00:05:36] a strikes elsewhere. Saudi Arabia said it would [00:05:40] respond firmly to who the attacks that injured. 13 civilians in three Saudi cities on [00:05:44] Monday. Earlier, Riad had issued emergency alerts in six cities [00:05:48] before later declaring the danger had passed. The alerts come as [00:05:52] the hoothies advance along Yemen's red sea coast towards the [00:05:55] babal [00:05:57] mandap straight, which is key global shipping [00:05:59] route. At least [00:06:02] 125000 people have been displaced and more than 200 people have fled [00:06:05] to, that's since the start of September, according to the United [00:06:09] Nations. Insecurities restricting human. access and supplies [00:06:13] are running low, we walked on foot at [00:06:17] night after sunset from up, we were [00:06:21] then told that the road was closed and that we had to return to mokha, so [00:06:25] we went back, we had absolutely nothing with us, no food, [00:06:29] water, nothing, everything was shut down, the bullets were flying [00:06:33] over heads like rain, we appeal to the humanitarian [00:06:36] organizations and the international community to [00:06:39] intervene and provide shelter for these families. and [00:06:43] ensure that they receive food, water, clothing and [00:06:46] accommodation [00:06:50] has the latest from the yemini capital. the current [00:06:53] development, what we are witnessing, the continuation the [00:06:57] air strikes on areas under the control of his in [00:07:00] particular, according to hoti media outlets, they said that [00:07:04] the air strikes have targeted regions [00:07:07] in and also, [00:07:11] they also mentioned that the... other air strikes have targeted [00:07:14] the the governmental compound in [00:07:18] the [00:07:19] mud khadir district in tazs especially also the continuation [00:07:22] the air strikes that continue on the [00:07:26] areas that have been recently taken on by the his in [00:07:30] particular the mokaport city where they have [00:07:34] targeted lubab and also they targeted alkhukha which is to [00:07:38] the to the to the north the [00:07:41] mocapot city. uh which was also recently taken [00:07:45] by the his in their advance towards the most [00:07:49] important and strategic coastal port city of muka, [00:07:52] also the other air strikes also are taking place in other regions, [00:07:56] but so far the hies continue to [00:08:00] reach attacks against Saudi Arabia, but so far the recent [00:08:04] declaration by the houthies during his pressa, he mentioned that they have attacked [00:08:08] the king Khalid air base in khamis musheid and [00:08:12] also at type they accuse Saudi Arabia the the continuation their [00:08:16] attacks on their positions and they threaten that they will would [00:08:19] further escalates and further attack the the [00:08:23] Saudi oil facilities and also ports [00:08:26] in in retaliation to what they say for the [00:08:30] Saudi continue continued blockade on their areas and their seaports [00:08:34] and also we are witnessing also the [00:08:37] the the the continuation the international [00:08:41] internationally recognized government. forces uh advanced [00:08:44] towards the areas under the control thehies, the [00:08:48] recent which [00:08:48] of was their advance towards the uh the region [00:08:52] the district of shamayatin. [00:08:56] Iran's media reports that two fishing boats were targeted a drone attack off the [00:09:00] country's southern coast, leaving number of fishermen missing. meanwhile Iran's revolutionary [00:09:04] guard says an oil tanker exploded and caught fire after hitting mines in [00:09:08] prohibited areas in the state of hormos, but the US military [00:09:11] disputes that... claim saying that the Panama flagged vessel was hit [00:09:15] by an Iranian missile last month and is struck again by a drone [00:09:19] while sitting in waters off the coast of oman. the [00:09:23] world's most important oil shipping lane has been mostly shut down [00:09:26] since the start the war, pushing energy prices to their highest [00:09:30] levels in recent years. whereas atami has the latest from the Iranian [00:09:34] capital. conflicting narratives continue [00:09:38] since this war started, we have heard so many conflicting. [00:09:42] narratives from Iran and the United States, basically now the United [00:09:46] States Trump himself is saying that the straight has been [00:09:50] cleared of minds, but the IRGC says that this trade [00:09:54] is not cleared of minds, and the latest [00:09:57] statement by IRGC says that vessel, this is [00:10:01] algaya vessel, a panamanian flagged [00:10:04] tanker hit a naval mine in the [00:10:08] southern corridor the straight of horm, we know this southern corridor. [00:10:13] has [00:10:14] been a bone of contention between Iran and the United States, [00:10:17] Iran does not approve of this southern lane that has been [00:10:21] designated by Oman and the United States. so the [00:10:25] IRGC says that that vessel hit a mine over there, [00:10:29] but the sendcom, the US military says [00:10:32] that the reason for the attack, [00:10:36] mean the attack was due to a drone a drone, an iranian drone [00:10:40] hitting this vessel, not a naval mine. [00:10:44] separately, Iran has reported attack on [00:10:47] fishing boats, civilian fishing boats off the port [00:10:51] of Kargan, this is a port along the... the [00:10:55] eastern uh coast of [00:10:59] Iran the straight Formus. says several fishermen have gone missing as result of [00:11:03] that attack which Iranian media has attributed to the [00:11:07] United States. And we have heard on so many [00:11:10] occasions, Iranian officials reporting civilian [00:11:13] casualties as result of US air [00:11:16] strikes. The the last major one happened earlier this [00:11:20] month when a US strike according to Iranians hit [00:11:24] a wedding. in the city of Kuhastak [00:11:27] along the straight of [00:11:29] horm. Turkish president, the [00:11:33] one says Ankara is stepping up its role addressing challenges facing the [00:11:37] region and the wider Muslim world, pointing to rising tensions in the [00:11:41] gulf region. He says [00:11:42] Turkey is recent defense initiative with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan sends a [00:11:46] strong message of greater regional [00:11:47] cooperation. For [00:11:51] years we have said the world is bigger than five. continue to [00:11:55] say so, but we did not stop there. we also said there a [00:11:59] more just world is possible. how is it possible? we are currently [00:12:03] following what is happening in the straight of horm, and it's not just situation [00:12:07] in the straight of horm. as you look around, there are serious problems in [00:12:11] many parts the gulf, and where are the bottle necks caused by these [00:12:14] problems? the muslim world. as turkia, we say that we want the [00:12:18] muslim world to overcome these difficulties as soon as possible, and to [00:12:22] help overcome them, has now stepped up. role in the region [00:12:26] and will continue to do so, we cannot take this lightly because expectations [00:12:30] from Turkey are very high. remember why we took the step regarding the [00:12:34] defense pact in Riad and Mecca. Saudi Arabia, [00:12:37] Pakistan and Turkey came together and took a [00:12:40] step. The purpose of this step is for these three countries to come [00:12:44] together and God willing send a signal from here to the Muslim [00:12:48] world. There are positive developments and we will achieve this as [00:12:52] well. To Gaza now where. overnight drone strikes [00:12:55] and sniper fire half killed at least one person across Gaza City in the northern [00:12:59] camps, officials reported that a pre-dawn drone strike hit Gaza [00:13:03] city leaving two people wounded on Monday [00:13:06] separate series of strikes killed a senior hamas military commander in [00:13:10] northern Gaza. Gaza's health ministry says Israely attack since the [00:13:14] seasfire took effect in October last year, have killed more than [00:13:17] 1,370 [00:13:19] Palestinians. Former Columbia University student [00:13:23] and pro Palestinian activist. Mahmoud Khalil has filed a lawsuit against [00:13:27] the university and one of its teams, allegging discrimination against [00:13:30] Palestinian students. Khalil was arrested by immigration agents in March [00:13:34] of 2025 after taking part in protests against [00:13:38] Israel's war on Gaza. He was detained [00:13:41] for 104 days. Khalil accuses Colombia of laying the [00:13:44] ground work for the Trump administration to target him. We [00:13:48] are suing because no students, regardless their [00:13:51] background should go through. the [00:13:55] hell that Colombia put us through over all these [00:13:58] years. A year and a half since my unlawful detention, Colombia has not [00:14:02] reached out one time to offer any support to me. [00:14:06] On the contrary, they barred me from [00:14:09] campus, the only time they emailed us was actually to [00:14:13] ask us to leave Colombia Housing. It is time to [00:14:17] hold those who discriminate against Palestinians [00:14:20] accountable. [00:14:26] "Turkey and Somalia have developed a strategic partnership, bringing together security, [00:14:30] defense, humanitarian assistance, trade and energy. For more than [00:14:34] decade, Ankara has supported Somalia's efforts to reinforce its security and [00:14:38] estate capacity. Let's take closer look at that. [00:14:42] In 2011, the then prime minister, Richard Typ [00:14:45] Erdogan, visited Mogadishu during devastating drought [00:14:49] and humanitarian crisis. Ankara subsequently [00:14:53] expanded its humanitarian and development assistance while also [00:14:57] deepening political and economic ties. Since [00:15:00] 2013, Turkey has also played a facilitating [00:15:04] role in talks between Somalia and the Somaliland [00:15:08] administrations. Turkey supports the [00:15:11] development of Somalia's security institutions through military [00:15:15] training, capacity building and defense cooperation. [00:15:19] The turksom military training facility opened in September [00:15:23] 2017, providing. training to Somalia's armed [00:15:26] forces. In February 2024, Turkey in [00:15:30] Somalia signed a Defense and Economic Cooperation framework [00:15:33] agreement, boosting bilateral cooperation in security and defense. [00:15:38] Trade between Turkey and Somalia covers a wide range of products, [00:15:42] including food, machinery, construction materials, [00:15:46] pharmaceuticals and other manufactured goods. Turkish companies are [00:15:50] also active in areas including construction, infrastructure, [00:15:54] logistics and services. In March 2024, [00:15:57] Turkey and Somalia signed agreements establishing a framework for [00:16:01] cooperation in oil and natural [00:16:03] gas. In 2024, Turkey [00:16:07] petroleum and the Somali petroleum authority signed an agreement for [00:16:11] offshore oil and gas exploration and production. The following [00:16:15] year, hydrocarbon exploration and production onshore [00:16:19] were added to the agreement. In January, Turkey and Somalia signed a [00:16:22] protocol aimed at strengthening economic and commercial [00:16:26] cooperation. Now, Russia and Ukraine [00:16:29] exchanges strikes overnight targeting critical infrastructure on both sides. A [00:16:33] Russian drone attack killed one person and knocked out power in parts of Zapurit. [00:16:39] the mayor of Ukraine's capital says a drone hit a petrol [00:16:42] station in the in Keeve early on Tuesday injuring one [00:16:46] person in the Black Sea. vessels carrying military supplies to Ukraine were [00:16:50] hit while port infrastructure in Odessa also came under [00:16:53] attack. Russian authorities also reported attacks targeting [00:16:57] e-commerce warehouse in Tagonrog and industrial [00:17:01] facility in Samara region. The [00:17:05] US Supreme Court has blocked President Donald Trump's attempt to tighten mail in [00:17:09] voting rules, just to weeks before November's mid-term elections, the High Court [00:17:12] rejected emergency request from the administration allowing states [00:17:16] to keep their existing ballot systems. The white house wanted to block [00:17:20] mail and ballots from voters not on lists provided in advance to [00:17:24] the US postal service, but critics argue the president lacked the [00:17:28] authority to rewrite election rules at the last minute. [00:17:31] Nearly a third of US voters use male ballots making the decision [00:17:35] important in the race for. control of [00:17:37] congress now tech giant anthropic, the [00:17:41] company behind the AI assistant cloud is calling for governments to consider [00:17:45] mandatory regulations including a potential kill switch for AI [00:17:48] systems. President Donald Trump says it is all a hawks and opposes [00:17:52] the restrictions. The debate was triggered after former Open AI [00:17:56] and enthropicast staff raised the alarm that AI is getting out of [00:18:00] control and could gamble with our lives. Christinach [00:18:04] reports. They assister. [00:18:09] They can also dance, compete, [00:18:13] even for the jobs that traditionally relied on the human [00:18:17] touch, but the fast advancement of [00:18:20] artificial intelligence is also raising safety [00:18:24] question. I've worked in AI for 10 years and the whole time, [00:18:28] every year I have been saying this technology is incredibly [00:18:31] powerful, [00:18:32] it is getting more powerful by the day, and the window to act when you [00:18:36] have a small number of... that can build it because it's still very [00:18:39] expensive is so narrow, [00:18:41] it is few years, we are in this window now, the [00:18:45] co-founder of Anthropic, one the largest tech companies in the [00:18:48] world says law makers across the globe should [00:18:52] introduce kill switch policy, that's when you can get a [00:18:55] policy regime in place that can prevent accidents and it can [00:18:59] prevent the technology spiraling out of control, tech titans including [00:19:03] elon musk and open AI chat gpt creator, [00:19:19] H200 chips to approved customers in China on the [00:19:23] condition that Washington receives a [00:19:25] 25% cut the revenue he's calling the [00:19:29] safety warnings a hoax saying the development of AI [00:19:33] and data centers is bigger than oil the AI [00:19:37] debate. was sparked last week after anthropic AI [00:19:40] researcher quit and then posted viral [00:19:44] warning that AI could wipe out humanity within the [00:19:48] next decade. we really are on the cusp of recursive self-improvement, as it's [00:19:52] called in AI, where AI is used to train new AI, [00:19:56] cutting the human out entirely, like [00:19:57] robot doesn't have to kick in your door [00:19:59] and shoot you. it has to simply destroy the systems that keep us alive in modern [00:20:03] society. so imagine that all of those systems go down simultaneous. [00:20:08] right, that's a mass casualty event, some hollywood movies such as [00:20:12] irobot and the terminator show machines turning [00:20:16] against us humans, of [00:20:19] course that's cinematic fiction, but it [00:20:23] raises very real questions, will AI safety [00:20:26] and regulations be enough to avert the risk it [00:20:30] already poses to [00:20:32] people. trt [00:20:35] world. is capital, people have [00:20:39] taken to the streets as parliament opens its doors, the rally targets a [00:20:42] proposed constitutional change that could let president [00:20:46] felix Shikasi run for a third term. Osper [00:20:50] Harry has the story: in Democratic Republic of [00:20:53] Congo, in recent months, there is debate [00:20:57] about the constitutional change, and then in [00:21:01] Democratic Republic of Congo, President Chisekedi [00:21:04] the country has stated that, [00:21:08] if Congolese people allows him to run for a [00:21:12] third term, he might not exclude that [00:21:15] possibility, and after his announcements, there are [00:21:18] terms in Democratic Republic of Congo, [00:21:22] especially opposition leaders are calling [00:21:25] Congolese people to go into the street to show [00:21:29] their opposition or to show their protest against [00:21:33] the possibility the President of Democratic [00:21:37] Republic of Congo to run for the third term, while [00:21:41] Constitution of Democratic Republic of Congo allows [00:21:45] only two terms or two 10 years for [00:21:48] President. who might be in charge of ruling [00:21:52] of democratic republic of Congo, this [00:21:55] week, opposition leaders are calling for [00:21:59] populations especially in all the country and in [00:22:02] Kinshasa to go into the streets, [00:22:06] while this time [00:22:07] it is the start of parliament recession, [00:22:11] and many believe that the matter of constitutional [00:22:15] change might be at the center of discussions [00:22:19] and [00:22:43] and now let's take a quick look at some other stories making headlines around the [00:22:47] world, funerals have been held for 20% four children killed [00:22:50] in fire in the city of bukavu in the Democratic Republic the [00:22:54] Congo last Thursday. Officials say the fire started near a [00:22:58] school, but quickly reached the building where lessons were [00:23:01] underway. Some children tried escape by jumping from higher [00:23:05] floors, while others were trampled as they tried to [00:23:08] flee from the flames. More than 500 houses in the vicinity also [00:23:12] burned down. Dozens of firefighters in Spain [00:23:16] are battling a wildfire that broke out on Monday. emergency [00:23:20] crews have been conducting ground and air operations to contain the flames, [00:23:24] elsewhere in Spain, firefighters are still battling wild fires in Grand [00:23:28] Canaria and the province of Malaga that injured three people and [00:23:31] prompted the evacuation of 50 residents. [00:23:35] Flights at Italy's Katania airport have been suspended again as [00:23:39] Mount Etna continues to spew volcanic [00:23:43] ash. The aviation alert has been raised from orange to red [00:23:47] after around four. thousand meters [00:23:51] and after after ash cloud rose around 4000 [00:23:54] meters and began drifting south posing a serious risk to [00:23:58] aircraft. Etna is Europe's most active volcano [00:24:02] and regularly disrupts flights from Katania, but unusually heavy [00:24:06] ash emissions this summer have caused repeated disruptions for [00:24:10] thousands of [00:24:10] travelers. [00:24:14] Okay, now Africa's biggest ever share sale has opened to investors in [00:24:18] Logos with the... Dangoat refinery asking ordinary Nigerians to [00:24:22] get behind its fundraising drive. There are already signs of a strong [00:24:26] demand with more people expected to apply then there are shares [00:24:30] available. Hillary Nuruka has the story. I [00:24:33] making history today. The Dangote refinery IPO has opened for subscription [00:24:37] on the Nigerian exchange, putting one of Africa's biggest [00:24:41] industrial projects directly in the hands of public market [00:24:44] investors. The offer is for 4.1 billion shares at [00:24:48] 525 each. That's 40 cents, [00:24:52] potentially raising about $1.6 billion dollars. [00:24:56] At that price, the refinery is being valued at roughly $48 [00:24:59] billion dollars, but at last week's signing ceremony, [00:25:03] aliko Dangote said the IPO is about more than raising [00:25:07] money to double its capacity. What we are trying to do is to make sure [00:25:10] majority of all all these, my our [00:25:14] drivers, our cooks, [00:25:16] our servants, [00:25:20] managers, everybody, they will have an opportunity to [00:25:24] have a stake in this refinery, and sure [00:25:27] enough, retail investors have flauded investment portals, leading [00:25:31] to the crash of no fewer than two investment apps. the [00:25:35] Nigerian Exchange temporarily posted on X just hours after the [00:25:39] IPO opened that about 400,00 people had subscribed [00:25:43] to billion dollars worth of equity. Even before the IPO [00:25:47] opened for subscription, the Nigerian stock market. witnessed [00:25:50] bearon with investors pulling their money out of other [00:25:54] equities waiting to put it in the [00:25:56] IPO. Before my messages could [00:26:00] land uh... in their [00:26:03] destinations to some these clients, lot them had already [00:26:06] peltering has started peltering our accounts with [00:26:10] payments, [00:26:11] you know, they are already dumping money, paying you [00:26:15] know to uh take part in the [00:26:19] IPO. African market leaders were well represented at the [00:26:23] IPO offer presentation, showing how connected to the [00:26:26] refinary they are. This is Africa's wealth, and what [00:26:30] I mean is that we as Africans need to roll up our sleeves to make sure that we [00:26:34] actually release the value, that is [00:26:38] African resources. Dangoti has become a security [00:26:42] anchor following the US war on Iran, presenting [00:26:45] Africa and the rest the world with viable alternative to the Middle [00:26:49] East. It filled gaps in western Europe and is currently [00:26:52] negotiating long-term contracts with Ghana, Kenya [00:26:56] and South Africa. But the big question for investors [00:27:00] today is whether the offer price of five. 125 nair, [00:27:04] which is about 40 cents, leaves enough room for the share to [00:27:07] appreciate when it's eventually trades on the [00:27:11] NGX, some analysts have valued the refinery [00:30:09] You're watching TRT World, I'm Jafar Hustan, the headlines, three people [00:30:13] including two children have been killed in Saudi led coalition air strikes in [00:30:17] Yemen's Thais province, that's according to Huti run media, [00:30:21] the strikes come as Saudi Arabia says, it will respond firmly to hoothi [00:30:24] attacks that injured 13 civilians in three Saudi [00:30:27] cities, the United Nations says fighting in Yemen has forced [00:30:31] 12. 25000 people from their homes [00:30:35] since the start of this month. At least 18 [00:30:39] households were 125,000 people have been displaced since the start [00:30:43] the month. The toll on civilians is increasing. Between September [00:30:47] 1st and today, our colleagues at the UN human rights office have verified 40 [00:30:51] civilian casualties. [00:30:54] Iranian estate media says a drone strike has hit to Iranian fishing boats [00:30:58] along the street of hormos leaving several people missing. In separate incident. [00:31:02] Franc revolutionary guard core says an oil tanker exploded and caught fire [00:31:06] after striking mines in the waterway, but the US military [00:31:09] disputes that account saying the tanker was struck by [00:31:13] Iran and rendered in apprible last [00:31:15] month in Gaza overnight drone strikes [00:31:19] and sniper fire across Gaza City and the northern camps have killed at [00:31:23] least one person. two others were [00:31:26] wounded. On Monday separate series of strikes killed a [00:31:30] senior Hamas military commander in Northern [00:31:32] Gaza. A [00:31:36] Russian drone attack killed one person and knocked out powers in parts of [00:31:40] Ukraine Sapuritia and Keve's mayor said a drone hit a [00:31:43] petrol station in the UK. ucranian capital early on Tuesday, injuring one [00:31:47] person in the black sea, vessels carrying military supplies to Ukraine were hit while [00:31:51] port infrastructure in Odessa also came under [00:31:54] attack. The US Supreme Court has blocked [00:31:57] President Donald Trump's attempt to tighten mail in voting rules just weeks before [00:32:01] November's mid-term elections. The White House wanted to block mailing ballots [00:32:05] from voters not on lists provided in advance to the US postal [00:32:08] service, but critics argue the president lacked the authority to [00:32:12] rewrite election rules at the last minute. tech [00:32:16] giant anthropic, the company behind the AI assistant cloud is calling for [00:32:19] governments to consider mandatory regulations, including a potential [00:32:23] kill switch for AI systems. President Donald Trump says it is all [00:32:27] hoax and opposes the [00:32:52] Russia met in New Delhi this weekend, Trump and the war in Iran was [00:32:56] never far from the headlines, but what did this year's brick summit [00:32:59] achieve and [00:33:00] can the block be viable counterweight to [00:33:03] the west? I'm Hasim Seaker and this is today's [00:33:06] newsmate. [00:33:23] Our bricks leaders met in New Delhi with wars, sanctions and [00:33:27] tensions between the world's major powers, testing the group's [00:33:30] unity. With 11 members now representing almost half the [00:33:34] world's population, Brick says it wants a greater voice for the [00:33:38] global south and less dependence on western [00:33:41] institutions. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi says, They [00:33:45] must be rule shapers, not rule takers, [00:33:48] but can this increasingly powerful and increasingly diverse [00:33:51] block actually agree on what that new world should look [00:33:55] like? Here's a look: breaks was created [00:33:59] to give emerging economy's greater influence a global [00:34:03] system dominated by western powers. [00:34:07] 20 years later, it has 11 members, representing nearly [00:34:11] half the world's population and around 40% of global GDP. [00:34:16] but New Delhi was about more than showcasing the block's growing [00:34:19] reach. This was its first summit since the war on Iran [00:34:23] reshaped relations between some of its own members, [00:34:27] bringing those divisions to the same table and raising difficult [00:34:31] question. How much common ground survives when the [00:34:34] crisis is inside the room? The broader ambition remains [00:34:38] unchanged. Leaders won a greater role for emerging economies in [00:34:42] global decision making and a shift. [00:35:15] bricks foreign ministers failed to agree a joint statement at [00:35:19] differences over the war. new delhi brought the issue [00:35:23] directly into the summit. Iranian presidentian met [00:35:27] abu dhabi crown prince sheikh halid bin mohammed bin [00:35:30] zait in the highest level known face to face meeting [00:35:33] between Iran and the uae since the war began. [00:35:37] beyond that meeting bricks still had to find a common position on [00:35:41] how the war has been fought. [00:36:15] restraint in the Middle East and raised concern over attacks on civilian [00:36:19] infrastructure and nuclear facilities, but it did not [00:36:22] name the US, Israel, Iran or the gulf [00:36:25] states. Last year's Greeks declaration had directly [00:36:29] condemned US and Israeli attacks on Iran. This year [00:36:33] agreement came with much less specific language. On [00:36:36] Palestine, Bricks was much more direct. It opposed the first [00:36:40] displacement of Palestinians, called for an end to Israel's war in [00:36:44] Gaza, demanded unhindered humanitarian excess and backed [00:36:48] full UN membership for Palestine. There was also [00:36:51] agreement over economic pressure. The declaration criticized [00:36:55] unilateral tariffs and opposed. sanctions imposed without UN [00:36:59] security council authorization. [00:37:01] what is message? the message is that we [00:37:05] stand together. bricks countries, most the bricks countries do [00:37:09] not accept the sanctions imposed by the west either [00:37:12] on say Iran or on the on Russia. [00:37:16] so they pursue a slightly different kind of policy and they also demand [00:37:20] what you call multilateral reform. that push for reform has been at the heart of [00:37:24] bricks from the start, giving emerging. economies a [00:37:28] greater say in institutions still dominated by established [00:37:32] powers. two decades on, bricks has become too large to [00:37:36] ignore and too diverse to move easily in one [00:37:38] direction. new delhi showed both sides of that [00:37:42] equation. its global influence is growing, but its [00:37:46] collective power still depends on how far its members are [00:37:50] willing to move together. we're joining me now [00:37:54] to talk more about this from Moscow. we have founder and CE of [00:37:58] bricks plus analytics [00:38:00] yaroslav from Boston, director [00:38:03] of bricks lab at the MIT Center for International [00:38:07] Studies, Michela Papa, and joining us from Washington, [00:38:10] director the Quincy Institute's Global South program, [00:38:14] Sadang Shidore, good to have you all with us, [00:38:17] so uh, Sadang, let me start with you then, what for you were [00:38:21] the main takeaways of this brick [00:38:24] summit? the way i would say [00:38:28] it is that bricks dodged a bullet [00:38:31] because it's come under some stress over the last year and a [00:38:35] half, ever since is expansion, we [00:38:39] have seen some troubles rocking its boat, and [00:38:43] most them haveen coming from the security side of bricks, which of course is [00:38:46] not the way bricks originally started for the [00:38:49] most part, it started mainly as economic development [00:38:53] oriented club with some global order [00:38:56] goals of. but what has happened over time is [00:39:00] that security matters have caught up with it, the world has [00:39:03] changed, the world is at war in many ways today, [00:39:07] in ways it wasn't 15 years ago, and new [00:39:11] members have arrived within bricks at about the same [00:39:14] time, so the two factors have combined in ways that have [00:39:18] stressed the organization, we have had some troubles issuing joint statements [00:39:22] of late over disputes [00:39:26] between African. members also recently of [00:39:30] course the war in the middle east with the UAE and [00:39:33] Iran at logger heads and both them are new members, so there [00:39:37] was some concern that there would be troubles in issuing the joint [00:39:41] statement, but the leaders declaration was issued, so that [00:39:44] was that was victory, the price for that victory though was [00:39:47] that the relevant paragraph on the middle east war was very water [00:39:51] down, was probably the best that could have been achieved under the [00:39:55] circumstances ' [00:39:58] "and I think Bricks is essentially [00:40:02] closed ranks and put a [00:40:05] show of unity, everybody that was [00:40:09] expected to come or less came, and so I [00:40:12] think the the task now for bricks is really to kind of take [00:40:16] a deep breath and work out some [00:40:20] these issues that they should not from their [00:40:23] perspective paralyze the organization." [00:40:27] because there's a lot of work to do in terms the way they have [00:40:31] achieved and they have set out lot of goals and they have achieved some [00:40:34] goals, but there's a lot more to [00:40:37] do, so it's really sort of [00:40:40] looking within and figuring out how [00:40:43] to make this expansion work in the coming [00:40:47] years. all right, let's get Michelle's take on on this [00:40:51] and as well the [00:40:53] the the point that was made there by Sareng on the the final [00:40:56] statement, that was made that was kind of wated down as he and others have [00:41:00] observed, when we look at that final statement, does it look like to [00:41:04] you like some the issues were just kind of paper it over and [00:41:07] and [00:41:08] you know not wanting to ruffle feathers at this [00:41:10] point? this is a question of [00:41:14] expectation, so for example when we think about India's [00:41:17] chairships, India was the one that paved the way for the new development [00:41:21] bank which was the major success story for bricks as [00:41:24] institution where each member contributed significant. [00:41:28] so this situation of current summit is not one [00:41:31] where you have like one huge legacy project or major [00:41:35] announcement that there is cross border payments initiative up and [00:41:40] what you have uh now is very many different initiatives, [00:41:44] lot of added it issues, so uh, this shows [00:41:48] not only that the countries manage to reach [00:41:52] consensus, but also have belief in bricks to keep [00:41:56] adding issues to the bricks agenda. one thing that I [00:41:59] would um emphasize is the effort [00:42:03] to think about industrial development, to look at global [00:42:07] value chains and action plan on that, and also growing [00:42:11] momentum on WTO and actually [00:42:14] support the new members in joining [00:42:18] WTO, so uh these are some the [00:42:21] high-level uh takeaways, but India had very difficult [00:42:25] situation, and it was major accomplishment even to [00:42:29] have an outcome, especially when we think about what happened [00:42:33] during the foreign ministers meeting several months earlier, and [00:42:37] how difficult it was to reach any consensus. [00:42:40] Yaroslav Lisovolik, the point was made earlier there [00:42:44] that bricks was initially set up as economic [00:42:48] group, so with that in mind, can bricks be an alternative [00:42:52] to to reshape the world order rather than follow [00:42:55] it? I think it [00:42:59] can, it needs to do lot more, [00:43:03] certainly in sphere such as trade, um, I [00:43:07] think Michaela has rightly pointed out that, um [00:43:11] on on the trade side we're starting to see more of momentum in terms [00:43:15] the discussions within bricks, but trade is [00:43:18] precisely the area where bricks is experiencing the most [00:43:22] pressure, we've seen unprecedented pressure in terms of [00:43:25] protectionism in terms the rhetoric um coming from the US [00:43:29] visa v bricks and so there needs to be a more coordinated [00:43:32] response [00:43:33] obviously on the trade side coming from bricks [00:43:37] um so there are some there have... in some discussions [00:43:41] including a an [00:43:44] extraordinary summit that has taken place um last [00:43:48] year during Brazil's presidency that was dedicated to [00:43:52] partly to trade issues, but there needs to be something more [00:43:56] systemic, including probably something like a [00:43:59] platform for bricks within the WTO, within the [00:44:03] World Trade Organization, there needs to [00:44:06] be um a more systemic ' [00:44:10] dialogue and progression on key issues such [00:44:14] as the payment system, um, we are [00:44:17] seeing that the use of national currencies is [00:44:20] certainly advancing and its share and total transactions [00:44:24] is rising, but at the same time there is not yet a [00:44:28] bricks payment system, and the final declaration [00:44:32] did not clearly state that [00:44:36] there are critical milestones that have been achieved. "It [00:44:40] seems like there's still a need to forge consensus uh [00:44:44] within bricks on some these key issues on the economic [00:44:47] front and to advance at the expert level in terms [00:44:51] the technicalities of how these platforms of [00:44:54] cooperation will work. Sareng, global [00:44:58] headlines uh were always going to be a talking point at this summit [00:45:02] as they have been in summits in the past [00:45:05] and obviously not the least of which is the US [00:45:08] Iran war. "and when we see that Iran and the [00:45:11] UAE who have been on opposite sides of this very [00:45:15] dangerous regional confrontation, what do you make [00:45:19] then the fact that Iran's president masoud beseshgan was [00:45:23] meeting with the high-level uh UAE [00:45:26] representative? what what what can we what can we get from [00:45:29] that? yeah, I mean, I think that that [00:45:33] gets us into the middle situation, which is very complicated one, [00:45:36] and to be to be fair to bricks, it has..." very little [00:45:40] leverage to resolve the issues, [00:45:44] so the fact that the Iranian president came and the [00:45:48] fact that the UAE sent a very senior figure in [00:45:52] the government, is a positive sign, [00:45:56] perhaps a little bit in terms of how they are interacting, but also [00:45:59] perhaps more in terms the importance they give [00:46:03] to this grouping that they have [00:46:07] recently joined, they felt it was necessary to be [00:46:11] present a high level, it also reflects their relations with [00:46:14] India, the UAE in particular has very close [00:46:18] relations with India, Iran to has good relations with [00:46:22] India, so the fact that New Delhi was [00:46:25] the venue was in many ways a safe space [00:46:29] for them to come and engage, and the more they engage obviously [00:46:33] bilaterally and otherwise, the [00:46:37] sl they improved other chances for them understand. each other's position [00:46:41] obviously that war in the middle east is very complicated, there are many actors [00:46:44] involved, it's not entirely in the hands these two countries, but i [00:46:48] think bricks in a sense provided that space where [00:46:51] everybody... could come and that's that's significant a time when [00:46:55] we have enormous fragmentation in the world, many [00:46:59] states are talking at cross purposes, talking past each [00:47:02] other, and it's really down to some these [00:47:05] multilateralish fora to create spaces for [00:47:09] engagement, and bricks, I think did that job in [00:47:11] Delhi. Michela, people often look at the optics [00:47:15] these things and and so when you see the the [00:47:19] the the president of Iran uh meeting... with all those other [00:47:23] leaders, does the fact that this took place under the bricks [00:47:26] umbrella tell us something more about what bricks is [00:47:30] becoming not just economic group but diplomatic [00:47:33] space? i would actually [00:47:36] emphasize india, china meeting as the major [00:47:40] diplomatic meeting showing that bricks is diplomatic [00:47:44] space, because there was so many years past since [00:47:48] president she visited India and India and [00:47:52] China... had a militarized conflict several years [00:47:56] ago, so uh this shows that brings brings countries [00:47:59] together that are in dispute or have had challenges [00:48:03] and very strong differences on certain [00:48:06] aspects. in terms of Iran i would look at [00:48:09] bricks more like um as area where [00:48:13] practical cooperation needs to be possible, not necessarily [00:48:17] that countries need to get along the well, so for [00:48:21] example the way we look... at Cuba and the United States in the [00:48:24] United Nations, that's the same way we look at Iran being there with [00:48:28] UAE in bricks, so almost like the min UN [00:48:32] model approach to to the platform, so [00:48:36] if at the end the day they can find some areas of mutual [00:48:40] gains, find some functional cooperation that [00:48:43] that helps their their country's development, then that's a good [00:48:47] outcome. Yaroslav, we had the the Indian [00:48:51] Prime Minister. Narendra Modi calling for for urgent [00:48:55] reform for the global institutions such as [00:48:59] the UN and the IMF, but did that mask some [00:49:03] some deep divisions over how this should be achieved, [00:49:06] because talk is one thing, but putting into action is is [00:49:10] something entirely different. Well, [00:49:14] I think on the reform of international institutions, with [00:49:18] respect to the UN, there may be more divisions [00:49:20] and Obviously this is more [00:49:24] of a political issue in terms of which heavyweights from the global [00:49:28] south make it into the UN security [00:49:31] council etc. so this is one issue [00:49:35] and obviously um there are [00:49:39] you know to some degree there is some competition [00:49:43] amongst the developing economies and in that in [00:49:46] that part the agenda, but then with regard [00:49:50] to issues such as WTO [00:49:53] reforms such as the reform the IMF, I think there are [00:49:57] less divisions, there is more unanimity with regard [00:50:01] to the need for a more balanced [00:50:05] distribution of voting rights within [00:50:07] within the IMF, [00:50:11] whereby the the lion share that the [00:50:15] majority these voting shares are with the developed [00:50:19] economies and certainly the current status quo and in terms [00:50:22] the distribution of votes does not reflect [00:50:26] the dynamics in the global economy [00:50:29] whereby the share of developing economies, including the [00:50:33] largest developing economies from bricks is [00:50:37] rising, so on this front I think there's more [00:50:40] unanimity, and with regard to the WTO, I think there is [00:50:44] also the agreement that bricks [00:50:47] economies are very much interested in having [00:50:51] a fully functional WTO with a [00:50:55] proper dispute settlement body, which is not really fully [00:50:59] operational at this stage, to to a significant [00:51:02] degree, I would actually argue that with [00:51:06] globalization slowing down and having [00:51:09] experiencing setbacks in the developed world, [00:51:12] bricks plus with a proper [00:51:16] ambitious trade agenda could become a [00:51:19] platform for revitalize. globalization [00:51:23] effort and liberalization of markets, certainly we're [00:51:27] seeing that economies such as China um and [00:51:31] even India are starting to become far more [00:51:35] active and boosting south south trade and [00:51:38] concluding regional and bilateral [00:51:41] trade agreements. saran, [00:51:45] can can bricks or should bricks challenge the west, because [00:51:49] it is, it is powerful group, it's 40%. [00:51:54] uh of the world and or is it better of [00:51:57] simply trying to carve out its own sphere of [00:52:00] influence? yeah, so let's take a step [00:52:04] back and and and sort of see why bricks is [00:52:08] even become so attractive and has taken off in recent [00:52:12] years. there are two basic reasons for it. the first one is a [00:52:16] sort of a a sense a static reason that the fact [00:52:19] is that over the last several years we haven't seen the [00:52:23] current global order deliver especially for the global south a range [00:52:27] of issues. the point was made about trade and we are seeing [00:52:31] actually retreat from open trade and the idea that trade in [00:52:35] integration can work with some qualifiers obviously, but is [00:52:39] a way forward, we are, we haven't seen very much on climate [00:52:42] from the the powers the day, and on many [00:52:46] other fronts, so these sort of failures that have now multiplied over [00:52:50] time have made many states realize that [00:52:53] alternative pathways, alternative clubs may [00:52:56] be a place to to invest in, and [00:53:00] the second reason, which is sort of somewhat different perhaps [00:53:04] also is the fact that the [00:53:07] US led order is undergoing a shift, we are [00:53:11] seeing a decline of unipolarity, it hasn't [00:53:15] ended, but it's certainly declined since the 90s. we are a [00:53:19] different world from the 90s when it comes to the ability the United States [00:53:22] to kejol, persuade, [00:53:26] attract countries and align with its agendas for the [00:53:30] world order, so when you have a future [00:53:33] that is is uncertain because we nobody knows what's going to [00:53:37] replace the shift, the US [00:53:41] relative decline, we don't know what sort of order is going to come about in [00:53:44] 10, 15, 20 years, so this uncertainty [00:53:48] drives a imperative to hedge and multialigne [00:53:52] even more, that's always been there in the global south by the way [00:53:56] for decades, but this makes it even more urgent, and investing [00:54:00] in bricks is again becomes attractive, so I don't see bricks as a [00:54:04] coherent. alliance of any kind, it will never never be one [00:54:07] obviously, even economically, so there's no question of [00:54:11] its spheres of influence and so forth, those concepts will not [00:54:15] apply, but the really interesting question is whether bricks can [00:54:18] really set up alternative [00:54:22] institutions or complementary institutions, I would say even, because [00:54:26] many the countries in bricks from the global south are actually not [00:54:29] anti-western, they don't want to overthrow the existing [00:54:33] institutions, the existing... institutions are not delivering for them, so they want [00:54:37] to invest in alternatives as complements and the [00:54:40] question is if these complementary pathways they have taken on such as the [00:54:44] new development bank, but perhaps a payment system, [00:54:48] perhaps something on trade, it's interesting how much the consensus is on trade, but there hasn't [00:54:52] been a lot of action on trade, although the feelings are strong [00:54:56] on defending the WTO, so they can do something on trade, they can do something on [00:55:00] these other areas of developmental spaces, then we'll [00:55:04] start seeing a sort of a competition and in [00:55:08] the ideal world it would be healthy competition with [00:55:11] existing institutions that are legacies from the 50s or the [00:55:15] 90s, and we'll all win [00:55:18] in the end. so that's where at least the global [00:55:22] south countries [00:55:23] are sort of [00:55:24] motivated by. obviously Russia and China have somewhat different [00:55:27] goals, but there's enough common here, common agendas that all [00:55:31] them can work together on some these points. you see this [00:55:35] as moment of opportunity for uh bricks given all [00:55:39] the the volatility in the world right now, particularly with regard [00:55:43] to um events in the middle east and the point that sarang [00:55:46] made there earlier about how this US [00:55:50] lead world order seems to be on the [00:55:52] decline. definitely see it as [00:55:56] moment of opportunity, but i'm not seeing that bricks is actually [00:56:00] optimizing the opportunities it has, so for example one big [00:56:03] item on the agen was strategy for bricks economic [00:56:07] partnership for 20 2030 and uh [00:56:11] that has not been decided yet uh then uh bricks [00:56:15] grain exchange cooperation was supposed to [00:56:19] actually facilitate food trade and this this is in areas [00:56:23] where um where bricks has major [00:56:26] market power so that has not been developed [00:56:30] and uh also the bricks does not really know what it [00:56:34] wants. to do with so many issues, how to consolidate, there [00:56:38] is a bit of a sense that there is some continuity and that there is [00:56:42] awareness that there should be a continuity mechanism and and Troika and this [00:56:46] is now focus, but uh what I see is [00:56:50] all these opportunity, but it's not really being [00:56:53] implemented, and um one area [00:56:57] where I see that bricks could make major difference is [00:57:01] a new regulation, so right now we see... [00:57:05] artificial intelligence revolution and there is very little regulation [00:57:09] on that and the future is changing very quickly, so what can [00:57:13] not only how bricks can challenge the west, but what [00:57:17] can... bricks do to innovate and how to manage [00:57:20] this human AI relationship in the future? all right, [00:57:24] um, give what's probably going to be the last word then to Yaroslav, how do you [00:57:28] see this playing out then uh as bricks goes [00:57:32] forward given the the the the growing economic power that it [00:57:35] has, how can it use that [00:57:37] power? well, i [00:57:41] think they will certainly do their [00:57:44] best to um further. um [00:57:48] progress on key issues um that are [00:57:52] crucial for bricks members and the broader global south, this [00:57:56] is issues related to trade, this [00:57:59] is the optionality in terms of payment [00:58:02] systems and the use of national currencies, i think there [00:58:06] is also um the um the need to [00:58:10] forge ahead with greater [00:58:12] institutionalization and [00:58:15] certainly the some the mechanisms that are now [00:58:19] being discussed, including the continuity mechanism like [00:58:23] troika, that will be potentially [00:58:26] significant contribution to greater [00:58:29] efficiency of bricks in terms of its [00:58:32] operations, and bricks will [00:58:36] probably further expand as well, there was already a [00:58:40] wave of expansion that we've witnessed, quite a significant [00:58:44] one, currently we're on in in uh pause [00:58:48] mode for some time, but then I think [00:58:51] clearly given the fact that there are quite a lot of emerging [00:58:55] markets that want to become part the bricks [00:58:59] core, there will be further pressure for the bricks to [00:59:03] further expand, and accordingly the share of bricks in the global [00:59:06] economy will continue to rise, [00:59:10] and that in turn will also further raise the [00:59:14] ambition the block with respect to... forming um [00:59:18] and changing the current status quo. all right, we'll have to leave it [00:59:22] there. [01:00:21] escalating, the Saudi led coalition has now strucked the [01:00:24] ansarulahuthis in the tires province, and that's as the Iranback [01:00:27] group pushes into government held areas, well Riad wants military [01:00:31] assistance from the US, but reports claim that Washington is [01:00:35] reluctant to offer anything beyond Intel. Tensions [01:00:39] are also high in the straight of Homus where Iran's media say that Teran has [01:00:43] downed an American drone. Iran's also accused the US of targeting [01:00:47] It's fishing boats while the two countries have conflicting [01:00:51] accounts about attack on an oil tanker. Tech [01:00:55] giant Anthropic is calling for kill switch as AI technology grows ever [01:00:59] more powerful.