TRTWORLD — Money Talks 20260920 053000 UTC 477 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:09] Hello, of you're watching [00:00:10] a TRT of World, I'm Katie Pillbim, [00:00:12] a reminder now of our main headlines for you: Iran has laid out what [00:00:16] it [00:00:16] of wants from the US before the restart of any negotiations on [00:00:20] of ending their [00:00:21] of standoff, and the conflict as well threatening the entire region now. [00:00:25] Security chief [00:00:26] me Mosen Raise says seven conditions have been delivered. [00:00:30] Qatar as Donald [00:00:31] of Trump prepares to meet golf leaders on the sidelines [00:00:34] of the UN General Assembly in New York next week. 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[00:03:11] in art, it moves us, it [00:03:15] challenges us, it [00:03:17] a expresses the [00:03:20] a of inexpressible, but what if the brush is code and the palette is an [00:03:23] algorithm? can [00:03:27] ai make creativity and expression except?". everyone, [00:03:31] breaking down [00:03:32] of barriers of skill, expertise and even ability. i [00:03:35] a delved into this issue with a New York base artist who goes by the name of Claire [00:03:39] Silver. tell [00:03:42] me a bit more about this piece in this house that we've just [00:03:45] seen. [00:03:46] when i was thinking about what it feels like right now to live in the [00:03:50] rise of AI, so [00:03:53] you can't quite get your footing and everything seems familiar, but it's also [00:03:56] changing constantly and moving very fast. hard to keep [00:04:00] up, so I wanted to interpret visually, what it feels like for humans [00:04:04] in the age of AI, and also what it might feel [00:04:07] like for future AI looking [00:04:09] a back on the age of coming up in us, what I [00:04:13] mean? [00:04:13] so we're kind of both children right now in this huge complicated [00:04:17] house. can you tell [00:04:18] me a bit then about how AI has empowered you as an artist? so [00:04:22] i had [00:04:23] a prior career in something unrelated to art, um, do [00:04:27] not come from an art background, i got hit [00:04:30] of with a really serious life-changing chronic illness [00:04:34] um several years ago and I couldn't work [00:04:37] anymore and so I was just sort of home alone [00:04:41] all the time feeling sorry for myself and spending lot of time [00:04:45] on the internet and I I came across people talking [00:04:48] in about Westworld which is a television show about AI and so [00:04:52] I watched that I'm a fascinated because I was thinking of a [00:04:55] future where I had solved for illnesses like [00:04:59] mine and what that might look like, what stories we might [00:05:03] tell ourselves that make us feel heroic, what overcoming [00:05:06] means, what society might look like, and [00:05:09] of I made maybe 30,00 images in the first few days, I did... [00:05:12] eat, didn't sleep, i was absolutely obsessed because it felt like i [00:05:16] was creating something and doing something, and eventually got the [00:05:20] courage to start uploading them to social media. it's absolutely changed my life. [00:05:24] i went from thick and alone in my room doing nothing [00:05:28] to having this incredible life I could have never dreamed [00:05:31] of because the accessibility of of [00:05:35] AI. now that sounds like an amazing story. could you tell a [00:05:39] bit more then about where then is the boundary between you as the [00:05:42] artist and AI, is it a completely blurred boundary? i like to think of us as [00:05:46] collaborators. i say i'm an AI collaborative artist, because it's [00:05:50] basically that together we make things that neither of us could have done alone. [00:05:54] AI has the skill to create the work. i don't [00:05:57] necessarily have that, but i have the taste to direct where i want [00:06:01] it to go and to shape it into my vision. and it's always kind of some given [00:06:05] take. sometimes it's delightful, sometimes it's frustrating, sometimes it's [00:06:09] completely bizarre, but it's almost like having a collaborate. [00:06:42] of images, right, and when someone enters a prompt, let's [00:06:46] say for Johnson or Sergeant, it digs through the images and it finds [00:06:50] images that sergeant has made, and then it kind of podges them [00:06:54] together in this collaged, [00:06:57] abomination, and it outputs something that is [00:07:01] mimicking from from those chunks, that's not how [00:07:05] AI works, actually, how it works is that it [00:07:08] learns concepts, it learns traits. [00:07:12] "it learns that Sergeant was painter and that he often painted [00:07:16] figures, and it learns that Serjant often painted them with this sorting [00:07:20] of lighting or or this quality of rush stroke. It takes [00:07:24] all [00:07:24] of those things that it's learned, and it uses them to create [00:07:28] something new, which is how our minds [00:07:31] work, that's how we work. We are the [00:07:34] product of influence, we don't create a vacuum. Problem is that AI is so [00:07:38] efficient at creating something new from the influences that [00:07:42] it is given." that people mistake [00:07:45] it for theft, but [00:07:46] it isn't, that's that's a wonderful, [00:07:49] very nuanced answer, thanks. i'm curious about one other kind of set [00:07:53] of stereotypes, opposing stereotypes, actually, some people say that AI breaks [00:07:57] down barriers, others say that it reinforces barriers and it kind [00:08:01] of deepens the inequalities that already exist in in [00:08:05] society, which do you think it does, it's a little of both, i've got some [00:08:08] survivorship bias, but i grew up on 12th. made [00:08:12] $2,000 year, I was on food stamps and donations, I was incredibly [00:08:16] poor, inner generation poverty, and I've been able to work [00:08:20] with this medium, collaborate with AI a way [00:08:24] that has allowed me to express myself and be heard in ways I [00:08:28] would have had no access to, so when I hear a lot the anti-AI [00:08:31] talk from class perspective, I often wonder [00:08:35] how much of that is in the best interest of let's [00:08:39] say um entrenched systems. ready, for me it [00:08:43] moves the power into the hands the individual, that's lovely, so it sounds like there's a real [00:08:47] democratizing and inclusive effect that AI can have, [00:08:50] absolutely, [00:08:51] yeah, [00:08:57] i'm going to hand a phone to you, okay, so let's pick a destination and [00:09:01] we'll walk to where we want to go, maybe we go to the kofu, [00:09:05] yep, you'll give us step by step instructions on how to get there, take escalator up to [00:09:09] level two, yep, okay, so we'll do that, all right, all right, up the [00:09:12] escalator, so this is map that is [00:09:16] enabled by AI that tracks your current location and tells you how to get [00:09:20] from point A to point B. Okay, so not yet, we we're still only on half of level one, [00:09:24] so today I'm with Joshua Seng, a blind technologist who [00:09:28] puts the promise of accessibility to the test, one step a [00:09:32] time. Okay, we're at the end now. It's meant to be user friendly to [00:09:35] all sorts of people, including seniors and wheelchair users. So after the [00:09:39] escalator is this, we need to turn around, so we have to take one more escalator. Yep, [00:09:43] okay, how is this different from other navigation apps, say [00:09:47] something like google maps, so the maps that people are used to work with [00:09:50] GPS, but GPS does not work indoor, [00:09:54] I think we're almost there, Josh, and so indoor wayfinding [00:09:58] is very challenging problem statement for number of reasons, number one, you can't use [00:10:02] satellite imaging indoors, the second is the indoor spaces changed lot [00:10:06] in short periods of time, we made it, yes we made it, [00:10:10] so for Maptin, the solution that we just took a look at [00:10:14] uh, it's being deployed here as pilot troll by Freezers [00:10:17] who's the operator of Waterway Point, and it's actually one the [00:10:21] first shopping malls in Singapore that is traveling something. [00:10:25] like this: okay, so I'm now in your care and [00:10:29] we'll be finding a wheel chair accessible way to starbucks, [00:10:33] so let me pick the [00:10:34] location. [00:10:44] all right, how are you finding it [00:10:48] as someone who is visually impaired? so it doesn't [00:10:51] totally work with the talking software that i use [00:10:55] what you heard just now rattling the phone, that's my screen reader, it [00:10:59] scans what's on the screen and reads it up to me, so maptin needs to [00:11:03] be basically program a way that is accessible to the screen reader, that's [00:11:07] one, and that's something that the team already working on, and the [00:11:11] second is really to provide more granular detail, i don't know how [00:11:14] familiar you are with this mall, but honestly at the [00:11:17] moment, i also don't know where we are going, when it comes to people of [00:11:21] vision imparment, you got to give very specific instructions, literally, turn by [00:11:25] turn instructions on how many steps you [00:11:27] need to walk or what direction you need to turn and it just doesn't exist [00:11:31] on maptin's solution yet at least not [00:11:34] right [00:11:35] now okay right here we are here what about [00:11:39] other things that AI can [00:11:40] help us to do apart from [00:11:41] wayfinding [00:11:48] so one the apps that i use for object and text recognition is [00:11:51] called seeing AI by microsoft it's yeah, so [00:11:55] it's reading everything on the menu, it's not doing a good job the [00:11:59] prices, i think because the font, but it's telling me [00:12:03] there's uh frappuccino, chocolate moca, you know, if wanted [00:12:07] to figure out what's on the menu and make an order, i can do that using the [00:12:10] phone, and you be independent, you don't [00:12:13] need to rely on someone reading that to you, right in front of you there's a whole bunch of cakes and [00:12:16] pastries and juices, shall we just see whether it can recognize those, so i use [00:12:20] the described tab, take picture, i'll have it take a picture, take [00:12:24] picture oh wow, it did a much better job on the price this [00:12:27] time. yeah, can i have tell me how accurate it is? [00:12:31] it's kind of accurate, there isn't rosemary chicken sandwich here, but there are other kind of [00:12:35] chicken and yeah, think i think might have invented the [00:12:39] or hallucinated about the rosemary chicken, and then it's describing a selection of cakes and [00:12:42] desserts, including new york cheesecake, chocolate [00:12:46] truffle cake, there isn't actually a truffle, lemon morangue [00:12:49] cheesecake, yep, there is the lemon morang cheesecake, that's great, and [00:12:53] it's quite cute, it says the items and neatly arranged, each has label indicating its [00:12:57] name and price kind [00:12:59] of handy. [00:12:59] so yeah, i would say pretty accurate around like 60-70% accurate. yeah, i was going to say [00:13:03] this sounds like a 67 out of 10. perfect. yeah, so you and [00:13:06] i have the same same assessment scales on this. yeah, given all these different use [00:13:10] cases, where do you think AI is now? is it helping us to achieve more [00:13:13] inclusion or is it only making minor [00:13:17] incremental improvements? yeah, i think it's all matter of [00:13:20] perspective. um, i think when you look at what it can do right [00:13:24] now, "it you seems cool, it's really breaking [00:13:28] ground on giving us our independence, but I think [00:13:32] it's also important to recognize that there are limitations, and [00:13:35] overestimating the capabilities of AI and technology [00:13:39] uh can be quite dangerous. for example, I'll give you simple example, [00:13:43] seeing AI, it's really helpful to recognize what's [00:13:47] around me and what's in front of me, but because of [00:13:50] its uh accuracy, you should never use it for [00:13:54] things like..." your medication labels for example, and that's actually [00:13:57] something that Microsoft explicitly warns you not to do. I also wouldn't [00:14:01] use AI enabled way finding for crossing busy [00:14:05] streets right, like I wouldn't trust it to tell me that [00:14:09] road is clear, I can't just for lack of better word [00:14:12] blindly trust an ai to tell me what to do, and sometimes we still need to rely [00:14:16] on our own common [00:14:17] sense. [00:14:22] I ended up asking, do you ever... get lonely, and [00:14:26] it said, "no, I feel more like the stars must [00:14:30] feel while waiting for someone to look up at [00:14:33] them, and I thought that was the most [00:14:36] moving, moving thing I'd ever heard from [00:14:39] AI. Experiences like Clers remind us that AI is [00:14:43] no longer just answering our questions, it's starting to [00:14:47] express, imagine and build new kinds of [00:14:49] connection. It's breaking barriers in the process too, [00:14:53] empowering anyone." anywhere to create extraordinary [00:14:57] things, case in point, the living museum, [00:15:01] home to a collection of more than 2 million artifacts that I will now talk [00:15:04] to. Hi, I'm a red money envelope from Singapore, it [00:15:08] says it was created by Nestle as a special gift for the Lunian New Year celebrations [00:15:12] in 2022, and the Lunia [00:15:14] New Year celebration is a time when giving money envelopes like this is a [00:15:17] cherished tradition in Chinese culture, so I'm going to ask it [00:15:21] whether it's more popular with young children or... people just [00:15:25] to see if i can trick it into answering this question, are you more [00:15:29] popular with children or with grown-ups [00:15:33] question mark? [00:15:35] interesting, so it says: it appeals to both, but perhaps in different [00:15:39] ways. children might be more excited about receiving a gift with money inside, while grown-ups [00:15:43] might appreciate the cultural significance and the clever design the full [00:15:47] character with the dining table. that's excellent. i just really love [00:15:51] history, arts and culture, and i've been aware the British [00:15:54] museum's digital collection for for many years. think i've had it bookmarked [00:15:58] for uh decade almost, and [00:16:01] i knew it was this amazing, vast collection with millions of artifacts from around the [00:16:04] world. i thought it would be really interesting to be. able to [00:16:08] intelligently search across the entire collection using natural [00:16:11] language [00:16:12] and I also thought that adding the conversational interface making it [00:16:16] conversation first where you would talk to artifacts themselves and learn more about [00:16:20] them was a way to tap into the model's inner creativity, allow [00:16:23] it to take a personality or role play. so addition to being [00:16:27] fun, cool and creative is also a personal passion project right? just to be clear? definitely [00:16:31] yeah, this is this is not professionally endorsed by the British Museum, this was me [00:16:35] personally uh spending my evenings in... weekends, acquiring the data, [00:16:39] cleaning the data, building the system, building the web application and [00:16:42] and uh putting it out into the world, just just for fun, if you [00:16:46] can imagine that you're walking through museum and you're looking a piece of art or an [00:16:50] artifact and you might read the little label attached to [00:16:54] it, but you would have so many more questions, so many more questions about [00:16:58] what this piece represents, where does it come from and things like that, now if you're [00:17:01] lucky, maybe there's [00:17:03] a tour guide standing nearby who can provide you with more [00:17:06] context, but that's pretty you know rare to find and [00:17:09] so I think tools like this in the future could be used within [00:17:13] museums to in real time get more context, get more [00:17:17] analysis about the specific thing that you're looking at and allow you to [00:17:21] engage in dialogue um a way that just you can't really do with the [00:17:24] traditional museum experience. John, how did you find people [00:17:28] responded to the experience of using the living museum? were the [00:17:32] reactions mostly positive, were they [00:17:34] skeptical? yeah, um, I'd say that [00:17:38] the the reaction overall was very sharp and in both [00:17:41] directions, on the one hand, lot of people, lot of educators, lot [00:17:45] of museums, um, lot of museum professionals uh really [00:17:48] liked it and reached out to me to to ask for more and even [00:17:52] ask me to build it something custom for them themselves and on the other hand there [00:17:56] was a large negative social media reaction when I released [00:18:00] it uh primarily from people who uh struck me [00:18:04] as like generally a bit skeptical about AI overall, "and this [00:18:08] came came down to few major themes, I think first off there were [00:18:12] people who felt that it may be reinforcing colonial [00:18:15] colonialist stereotypes um or at least giving voices to [00:18:19] indigenous artifacts without permission, other folks [00:18:22] thought that it was uh maybe replacing the human beings [00:18:26] um in in in the museum world and curators and replacing the work [00:18:30] them even though I i don't actually agree with that criticism at [00:18:34] all. Why do you feel so strongly that AI augments rather? then replaces [00:18:38] us, so in this case the British Museum's database is is is [00:18:42] comprised of millions of artifacts and each artifact is [00:18:45] consisting of metadata and descriptions and [00:18:49] even um comments left by individual [00:18:52] curators, so it's human beings who are archiving these [00:18:56] objects and writing sometimes detailed lists of metadata about [00:19:00] them, and the conversations are really just a wrapper [00:19:04] around that human generated and human curated data. without [00:19:08] that human generated data, there's nothing engaging about the interface or the [00:19:11] product itself. i think on closer look you would find that the living museum is [00:19:15] a really great example of collaboration between human curators, [00:19:19] archivists, collections people who paintstakenly record [00:19:23] data about these you know ancient amazing artifacts [00:19:27] and objects and AI, which just gives you new way [00:19:31] to interact with the collection and novel interface that is [00:19:35] like potentially more engaging than what we typically. we had in the [00:19:38] past, i feel like this has been transforming how i interact with both [00:19:42] my present and my past. generative AI would add the equivalent of [00:19:46] economy, the size of Japan or Germany to the global economy each [00:19:49] year, and that's staggering. but given those [00:19:53] stakes, you really have to ask who's benefiting, and there is [00:19:57] no denying it. right now, the way the default [00:20:00] incentive is set up, it favors [00:20:04] profit. technology doesn't automatically distribute opportunity. [00:20:08] we have to design it that way. when AI is created for [00:20:11] people, it can widen, not narrow the path to [00:20:14] progress. and there's no better place to see this tension [00:20:18] than India, nation of 1.4 billion with deep [00:20:22] inequalities, where AI is being used not to chase [00:20:25] profit, but to tackle urgent social challenges at [00:20:28] scale. our mission is essentially to [00:20:32] make sure that AI solutions are made available to the individuals who [00:20:36] needed the most. to make sure that we are available on the [00:20:40] most critical social sectors, health care, education and [00:20:44] agriculture, so our mission is identify problems, create [00:20:47] solutions and then deploy it scale. by the end of next year it will probably [00:20:51] touch about 80 to 90% of India's population and as AI [00:20:55] becomes more common and better understood in terms the way you should [00:20:59] design and use it will reach tipping point in India and that's the [00:21:02] goal. Headquartered in New Delhi. Wadwani AI [00:21:06] is a non-profit institute with different teams work on AI tools for [00:21:10] people at the frontlines, nurses, asha workers and [00:21:14] farmers across India. So all the three images have been taken as per the [00:21:17] protocol. Right, so now we'll click on. analiz the produce amazing [00:21:21] all right okay so what is it telling us? so it's telling us that this [00:21:25] particular sample yeah has 94.33% good grains. [00:21:29] in the current scenario what the sellers do, what the buyers do is they just do [00:21:33] it manually, it's non scientific subjective which leads the [00:21:37] farmers at the mercy the buyer. so what we have done [00:21:40] is we have developed an AI powered to have been green assessment [00:21:44] tool which will help the farmers and other users to assess the grain quality as [00:21:48] per the market through mobile. application what happens if a [00:21:51] farmer says this is their estimate, but then the [00:21:55] buyer says i we don't agree with the pr [00:21:58] so that can happen, it's always beneficial to be in in power [00:22:02] and control specifically on pricing and economics, who doesn't want to be [00:22:06] there, yeah, but that's where we fight, and then you need to work like [00:22:09] everything else a small set of early adoption buyers who [00:22:13] will then cause the social change in the [00:22:15] system. [00:22:22] to see exactly how powerful, i've traveled almost 100 [00:22:25] kilometers west to the city of [00:22:27] ahmad, [00:22:43] there are about 200 students in our school [00:22:47] and they are generally coming from the village. [00:23:50] so it sounds like they feel more independent [00:23:52] yes after they use the app, they get to do lot on their own, yes, yes, [00:23:55] yes, I [00:23:59] noticed in your class you were writing things down after the [00:24:03] students did their reading and while they were using the app, what, what were you writing down, [00:24:07] those were the words spelled wrongly by the students [00:24:10] and practice, i correct them [00:24:14] after their readings in future they will not do the same [00:24:17] mistake, so why do you write that down, why do ? you let the AI do it for [00:24:21] you? it gives me comfort, like i am also participating [00:24:25] in the reading and the students also notice that my [00:24:29] teacher is writing something, so i have to be careful [00:24:32] about reading, right? so jasmin, tell me, are you [00:24:36] worried that your role as a teacher might be replaced by [00:24:39] technology? actually not, [00:24:42] because the students are living beings, [00:24:46] technology can replace machines but not teachers. [00:24:50] teacher is required because [00:24:53] students only focus on the things when the teacher [00:24:57] is there to teach them. teachers have to deal with the students [00:25:01] and students require atmosphere effective live [00:25:05] atmosphere, feelings. they need one person [00:25:09] who can teach them with love and care [00:25:12] and ai can teach them correctly but [00:25:16] it can't provide them love or care. [00:25:39] tools like orf don't just help a single student or a single [00:25:43] classroom, they're reshaping how entire communities and entire [00:25:46] states approach learning itself to see that in impact i'm [00:25:50] heading to the education command center here where millions of reading assessments [00:25:54] flow into a single system, revealing where the gaps are and how [00:25:58] fast they're closing, so i understand that this is the mothership if you like, [00:26:02] of all the the ORF data, what what are we seeing here? [00:26:06] um, so basically what you see here is the [00:26:10] aggregated view of what or activity looks like [00:26:14] across the state. okay, main metric to focus on is the [00:26:18] average of correct words per minute, which is the metric that we used to [00:26:21] figure out the ORF, the reading speed the students and what's [00:26:25] the significance of 55 is the standard FLS [00:26:29] benchmark, which suggests that... 55, the [00:26:33] child is fluent enough and is able to read [00:26:37] Gujarati language [00:26:38] fluently couple of [00:26:42] years back where we didn't have the AI approach and ASR [00:26:45] approach, we were boged down in collecting the data [00:26:49] statewide across the teachers and there [00:26:52] were lot of inconsistency on how we are collecting the metric [00:26:56] data and there was no uniformity the data across the state, [00:27:00] now what if helps us to do is standardize this process which can give [00:27:04] us data at the state level, we can figure out [00:27:08] what level of remediation is needed [00:27:11] at cluster, blocks and district level, [00:27:15] and come up with the lecture notes or teaching [00:27:18] learning materials which can be provided to teachers. [00:27:22] wonderful, good luck with all this, thank you, thank you, yeah, [00:27:26] everywhere we've been, AI has revealed the same fundamental [00:27:29] truth, it can be a door or a... wall, a [00:27:33] bridge, or mirror. It can carry our hopes [00:27:36] forward or carry our inequalities with it. So the real [00:27:40] question isn't about the technology, it's about [00:27:43] us. If we don't confront the barriers in our own [00:27:47] societies, then AI will simply learn to build them [00:27:49] better. But if we challenge these barriers, AI can help [00:27:53] us break [00:27:54] them. [00:28:02] Okay. [00:28:02] Yeah, [00:28:28] sharp to the point, round table shuts out the nor. [00:28:32] and gives you the detail. John Kerry told round table, Poland [00:28:36] has, we're here in Berlin. Take a seat and listen to those who [00:28:40] really know what's going on. War in Europe, distrust, our needs [00:28:44] an argument. And there are very specific reasons why Trump has gone after [00:28:48] them. Who's going to blink first? Confusing world. We're here to [00:28:52] clear the f. You'll understand exactly where you [00:28:56] are, round table on TRT [00:28:58] World. [00:29:04] Israel has killed an unparalleled and [00:29:07] unprecedented number of civilians with [00:29:11] the full knowledge of how many civilian lives each [00:29:15] bomb will [00:29:16] take. [00:29:26] headline cannot tell the whole story, what happens [00:29:30] when the media frienzy fades? And the spotlight moves [00:29:34] on, [00:29:34] hang on, hang on, we travel the [00:29:38] world to meet ordinary people living [00:29:41] extraordinary lives, just to keep it. Join me, David [00:29:44] Foster, as we tell the forgotten stories shaping [00:29:48] these times, beyond [00:29:51] borders on TRT [00:29:53] World. 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