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[00:00:09] You're
[00:00:09] a watching TRT World, with me John Paul Davis,
[00:00:12] a reminder now of our main headlines. Saudi
[00:00:16] authorities say a projectile has hit Riad's main airport on Sunday
[00:00:19] causing a fire in one of its passenger terminals. On Saturday, a
[00:00:23] missile struck the same airport, killing
[00:00:26] a 13 of people, injuring more than 300. Will the anserlah huti's.
[00:00:30] claimed responsibility for that attack, the group has also repeated its
[00:00:34] warnings to airlines and travelers not to use Saudi
[00:00:37] airports. Israeli forces have
[00:00:41] continued bombing the Gaza strip on Sunday, killing at least four
[00:00:45] people, this happening as the Israeli military expands its
[00:00:48] so-called yellow line in the east of Gaza City, on Saturday,
[00:00:52] attack on the Shijai area, injured two Palestinians
[00:00:56] including a pregnant woman,
[00:00:59] of dozens of... palestinian families were also forced to
[00:01:02] of flee following advances by the Israeli
[00:01:04] military. US president Donald Trump says
[00:01:08] Russia and Ukraine have agreed to hold strikes on each other's energy
[00:01:11] infrastructure. Well that comes two days after he struck
[00:01:14] in deal with Russian president Vladimir Putin to buy large
[00:01:18] quantities of diesel. The Polish
[00:01:22] interior minister says the man who threatened and planned to
[00:01:25] of attack prime minister Donald Tusk has been arrested. Polish police say
[00:01:28] they'd received information. about a possible plot to assassinate and his
[00:01:32] deputy, who is also the country's defense
[00:01:35] minister. a state of emergency has been
[00:01:38] imposed in the Pakistan province of Kaibapakqua. the
[00:01:42] government has also
[00:01:44] of replaced the provincial head with a state appointed governor. the province
[00:01:48] is the stronghold
[00:01:48] of the PTI party of jailed former prime minister Imran
[00:01:52] Khan. they blocked all the roots by placing
[00:01:56] a containers. why have the roots been blocked? the public voted? them, where
[00:02:00] is democracy? who is not implementing the constitution? look
[00:02:04] here,
[00:02:05] of wherever the constitution is not being implemented, you should get it
[00:02:08] implemented, why are you humiliating the
[00:02:10] public? in india, the leader
[00:02:13] of the cockroach protest movements, abijite dipka has been
[00:02:17] released from detention along with two other senior leaders. they were arrested
[00:02:21] on
[00:02:21] in Saturday with thousands of others who took to the streets calling for the resignation
[00:02:25] of the country's election chief
[00:02:29] and... Continues on TRT Worlds after round
[00:02:33] table.
[00:02:49] of Coming up on this week's review of round
[00:02:53] table. Three years since the genocide in Gaza
[00:02:57] began, I speak to the UK's Palestinian ambassador. about the
[00:03:00] shift in global attitudes and his hope for a future state of
[00:03:04] Palestine in his lifetime. Also on the show, the
[00:03:08] UN estimates the rebuild of Gaza
[00:03:10] a will cost $71 billion dollars. Who will
[00:03:14] a pay? EU states are
[00:03:17] of divided over its made-in europe plan to counter competition from
[00:03:20] China. Can they unite before it's too
[00:03:23] late? And as this year's Godzilla
[00:03:27] of Elninho intensifies science. is worn of extreme
[00:03:31] heat, death
[00:03:32] of risk.
[00:03:48] hello and welcome to this week's review of round table. i'm mentor brady,
[00:03:52] now palestine's ambassador to the UK who sumlot says
[00:03:56] Britain has moved from words to action as it resets its
[00:04:00] policy on Israel, the UK recently announced sanctions targeting
[00:04:03] Israeli settlers in the occupied west bank and formally
[00:04:07] recognized the state of Palestine in September last year. I
[00:04:11] discuss with Zumlot how political and global public sentiment
[00:04:14] towards Israel has shifted. Talk to me about how you felt
[00:04:18] seeing what happened in the United States, for example, the the Macalmore
[00:04:21] concerts, edge Sheeren's involvement as well, countries like
[00:04:25] Ireland, players not wanting to play against Israel, do you think things have shifted in
[00:04:29] term? of a cultural boycott as well, water shed moments,
[00:04:33] of the those are watershed moments that are recorded in the history in the
[00:04:36] long journey and march
[00:04:38] of the
[00:04:39] in palestinian people towards freedom, and that's why I stood by the
[00:04:43] UK foreign secretary in Liverpool last week during the labor
[00:04:47] party conference, and I said, Mr. Secretary, today I can
[00:04:50] say that this is Palestine's South Africa moment because
[00:04:54] of these watershed moments. We have always had the people, the
[00:04:58] people at the grassroot.
[00:05:01] of level at the streets have always sided with justice, but
[00:05:05] we had issue with mainstreaming because
[00:05:10] in of the media because of the narrative, because
[00:05:10] of the false hasbara. and and
[00:05:13] you know disinformation campaign, you know the story very well, but
[00:05:17] now it is mainstream it is at the celebrity
[00:05:21] level, these are big names, i was following one after
[00:05:25] another, and it wasn't just about the heroic act and the very
[00:05:29] principled act of Mclamore, he was the one who knocked you know
[00:05:33] the the the wall and the flood gates came
[00:05:36] right open because the entire band with
[00:05:39] Sharen declined to participate,
[00:05:43] that was all Irish people, they that was a collective act of saying it is our
[00:05:47] right, it is our freedom of speech, we will speak our minds as
[00:05:51] artists, and then only two days ago you've seen another
[00:05:54] mega, mega superstar, Zach,
[00:05:58] Brian, having a shirt free Palestine, so the flood gate
[00:06:02] is or gates are open, and that's why I said last week, this is
[00:06:06] our South Africa moment, and what do I mean by South Africa moment?
[00:06:10] This is moment when the people the world as happened
[00:06:12] to the south africans, the people the world decided to collapse the
[00:06:16] apartide regime and it was collapse and south africa was free and
[00:06:20] mandela was free, when the people decide, maybe it takes time,
[00:06:24] your job and my job
[00:06:25] is to make that time
[00:06:27] you know to bridge that gap between the people and the
[00:06:31] governments, whether in Britain, whether in the US or anywhere else, but
[00:06:35] definitely, definitely the the direction of travel is
[00:06:38] going towards the finally the achieving
[00:06:42] palestinian rights with a global movement, palestine has become
[00:06:46] globalized and Israel has become the globe
[00:06:50] palestinized, meaning there has been a great deal
[00:06:54] of violation of human rights everywhere starting from Palestine,
[00:06:58] because when genocide is being normalized, other actors are
[00:07:01] watching, so people other people have realized that what happens in
[00:07:05] Palestine does not stop in Palestine, and now as result you
[00:07:09] have global Palestine where Palestine has become global. and it has become
[00:07:13] a domestic political election
[00:07:17] issue in every country, and that's why governments are listening,
[00:07:20] because their people are telling are telling them, if you take the right
[00:07:24] decision, if you side with
[00:07:27] the right side, if you side with justice with international
[00:07:31] law, you will be rewarded in the ballet box, if not, you will be
[00:07:35] punished, that's a huge historic development, ambassador, you
[00:07:39] mentioned elections, there is an election coming in Israel, you like to
[00:07:43] see happen, what would you like to see the Israeli people do at the ballot
[00:07:46] box? elect leaders who would
[00:07:49] recognize that Israel cannot exist at the expense of another
[00:07:53] people, that it cannot subjugate, oppress,
[00:07:56] you know, steal the land of demolish houses of
[00:08:00] genocide, ethnic cleansing of another people for 80 years,
[00:08:04] this has got to stub, they need to deliver their verdict via the ballet
[00:08:08] box that they will elect leaders who will stand there and say
[00:08:11] we recognize the Palestinian inliable right of self determination
[00:08:15] and we recognize the state of Palestine and we will work together so we
[00:08:19] establish neighborly relationship. That's what I expect. However,
[00:08:23] this is not the case. Palestine does not exist in the
[00:08:27] Israeli elections right now. Our rights are not part their conversation. There
[00:08:31] is no one zionist party in Israel that
[00:08:35] is engaged in and even willing to think and
[00:08:39] engage with us about the two-state solution. What will it say about?
[00:08:43] Israeli society, if people like Smodric and Ben Gavier
[00:08:46] get reelected given everything they've said over the past three years and
[00:08:50] done, that they have gotten the wrong message by the international community, that they could
[00:08:54] have the cake and 82, they have a culture of impunity, that they
[00:08:58] could keep going from extreme to fanatical extreme to
[00:09:01] fascism all the way to smatrage and being ver without consequences, the
[00:09:05] issue with the Israeli public is that they were told by Netanyahu
[00:09:08] they can actually make and turn, he can turn the occupation in...
[00:09:12] permanent, the illegality into permanent, the oppression into permanent, and
[00:09:16] there will be no consequences. this calculus, this message needs to
[00:09:20] be changed, that's why what the UK government did only few weeks ago is
[00:09:24] important, because we shifted from words to action, from
[00:09:28] statements and condemnation to consequences, and that's why
[00:09:32] this is the way forward, the South Africa moment is the way
[00:09:34] forward.
[00:09:39] the reconstruction of Gaza could take up to a... decade and is
[00:09:43] estimated to cost more than 70 billion dollars. nearly
[00:09:47] 75,00 people have been killed there in the three years since Israel
[00:09:51] began its war on Gaza, and despite a fragile cease fire, the EU has
[00:09:55] launched its team Gaza initiative with
[00:09:57] an initial 1 billion dollars for early reconstruction efforts,
[00:10:01] but when would this money reach Palestinians and what role
[00:10:05] can Europe play in the rebuilt? taught me through
[00:10:09] the sheer scale of reconstruction that would be needed. in
[00:10:12] Gaza, we're talking about
[00:10:15] 68 million ton of
[00:10:18] dreams, hope, memories,
[00:10:22] leftover of Palestinian who been kill. with their bones
[00:10:26] knock down until now, so we're talking about insane
[00:10:29] amount of uh work that has to be done in
[00:10:33] Gaza, we're talking about city that was ripped off the map,
[00:10:37] we saw the Google Map comparing because
[00:10:41] between the reality, how it was and how it is right now,
[00:10:45] you're talking about a whole city that was ripped off the map, so it's
[00:10:49] a huge amount of work that is needed in Gazer
[00:10:52] right now, thank you. Jane, is there an
[00:10:56] appetite in Europe to get involved here and play its part and help in the
[00:11:00] reconstruction? What are you picking up from Europe? European
[00:11:04] countries have been so divided over this that it's often seemed easier to
[00:11:07] do very little or nothing uh, but we have seen big
[00:11:11] differences among European countries, we have seen the the UK
[00:11:15] working particularly with Jordan on humanitarian and
[00:11:18] reconstruction issues, we've seen France working on Palestinian governance and
[00:11:22] political reform, we're not seeing the... large skill collective
[00:11:26] effort that's really needed to move the needle. Are you disappointed that
[00:11:30] we see Europe moving at lightning pace to help Ukraine when
[00:11:34] when military support and humanitarian aid is needed in
[00:11:37] Ukraine, they can all coordinate a matter of hours.
[00:11:41] And yet when it comes to Gaza, there seems to be this hesitation.
[00:11:44] Look, globally, Europe has lost a great deal of
[00:11:48] credibility as part the world that tries to speak with
[00:11:51] normative voice and to speak about morality. in foreign
[00:11:55] policy about multilateralism, international law, human rights,
[00:11:59] the glaring differences between the treatment of Palestine and the
[00:12:03] treatment of Ukraine have really undermined that credibility, of course they are two
[00:12:07] different conflicts, but it does appear to many around the world as though the lives of
[00:12:11] Palestinians are being valued less than the lives of Europeans. Thank
[00:12:14] you. Hue, of course, nothing can happen until the conflict
[00:12:18] ends, a proper seizfire is implemented, just give us
[00:12:22] your thoughts on how important that is. Yeah, certainly. so this is not just
[00:12:25] humanitarian crisis, this is also a political crisis and it's
[00:12:29] the political issue that has caused the humanitarian crisis,
[00:12:33] and so president Trump announced his so-called
[00:12:37] 20-point plan to end the war in Gaza almost a year ago to the
[00:12:40] day, um, year on, it's a cease fire in name
[00:12:44] only and it's a ceasfire for one side only. Palestinian armed
[00:12:48] groups have largely if not entirely respected that cease fire, but over
[00:12:52] the last year Israel has not and has continued. 'It's not
[00:12:55] just targeted uh killing of Hamas militants, but also
[00:12:59] continued strikes that have killed Palestinian civilians,
[00:13:02] has continued to systematically destroy large parts of
[00:13:05] Gaza and to deny the entry of humanitarian aid and
[00:13:08] reconstruction, so without Israel fulfilling its
[00:13:12] obligations under the first phase the seasfire deal, there can't
[00:13:16] be any progress on the political issue nor any progress towards
[00:13:19] reconstruction. Thanks you, faten, talk to me
[00:13:23] about what has been lost forever'. in Gaza, the
[00:13:26] culture, the history, the the
[00:13:28] landmarks, everything that has been flattened by
[00:13:32] Israel, just talk to me about how that has left Palestinian people
[00:13:36] feeling these past three years, a helpless, hopeless, and no
[00:13:40] dream of tomorrow, though the magic thing about the power in people in
[00:13:44] Gazze, that now they're recreating and new ways
[00:13:48] of surviving, they're not waiting for the cement uh to come
[00:13:52] from out of side the country, they're rediscovering ways. of building
[00:13:55] blocks out of nothing of the sand,
[00:13:58] the going back to ancient history style of b
[00:14:01] building by mixing the sand that ghaz is
[00:14:05] very famous off with the leftover rubble that they have.
[00:14:09] gaz is creative, the people in there, they manage to
[00:14:12] learn new terms and new ways of survival, but at the
[00:14:16] same time those are very slow
[00:14:20] process way to do it, and in between
[00:14:24] we're talking about three years
[00:14:26] generation kids that were born in
[00:14:30] the war and now they are three years old with zero
[00:14:33] education, we're talking about three generation that
[00:14:37] lost the hope of tomorrow, how they're going to finish their high
[00:14:41] school, how they're gonna even go through the simple right
[00:14:45] of studying in the first place, those people are
[00:14:48] growing up with the minimum, and the minimum is always what
[00:14:52] scared the people, now more and more people, especially if I'm
[00:14:56] a mother and have kids, I would hold to
[00:15:00] the dream of I'm not gonna get out ofiz,
[00:15:02] but then I will be unjustice to my kids if I decide
[00:15:06] to stay there and drip away the their dream
[00:15:10] of having a better future, so it's not only
[00:15:13] about the rubble and it's not only about those stones and
[00:15:17] houses and dreams and hope, it's about tomorrow, they stole
[00:15:21] tomorrow from them, and that's the scariest part, for
[00:15:25] every single human being in. Thank you. Jane, to
[00:15:29] get towards reconstruction, just going back to the cease fire and what needs to happen
[00:15:33] next. Hamas says they won't disarm until such
[00:15:37] point as 'the Israeli military pull out of Gaza and
[00:15:40] Israel says that won't happen until Hamas disarms, so we're in
[00:15:44] this very strange situation with nobody prepared to give
[00:15:47] inch, absolutely, and it is partly because the
[00:15:51] so-called cease fire was pushed on the parties
[00:15:55] by the US, and of course the Israeli government doesn't
[00:15:59] can't say an outright no to the US, but there hasn't really
[00:16:02] been that political will to to find a way to make
[00:16:06] that progress'. and of course you got
[00:16:08] is really elections coming up uh and so that is making everything like
[00:16:12] even more uncompromising, the elections won't be a complete game changer,
[00:16:15] but
[00:16:16] it is possible if there's a different government that doesn't include
[00:16:19] Netanyahu, ben Gavier and Smottrich, you might see a
[00:16:23] little bit more wiggle room, you might see some that would like to go back to
[00:16:27] the idea of not having the IDF inside Gaza, but you still likely to
[00:16:31] have problems with Israel wanting to have full control of Gaza's borders and
[00:16:35] that makes it really difficult to... rebuild, but also to get
[00:16:38] economy going without being able to come and go, without being able to import and
[00:16:42] export freely and all the things that we know makes economy
[00:16:45] successful.
[00:16:50] EU states are split over the blocks made in Europe initiative
[00:16:54] aimed at boosting manufacturing and countering competition from
[00:16:57] China. Members are unable to agree on what counts is
[00:17:01] European and which countries should be allowed in. Germany is
[00:17:04] pushing for trusted partners like the UK and Canada to be
[00:17:08] included, but France wants only countries in the block, while
[00:17:12] Spain is proposing a compromise, so can EU
[00:17:16] member states unify and find a way forward before it's too
[00:17:19] late. There doesn't seem to be very much agreement in Europe on
[00:17:23] how to go forward with this, is there? No, and if you look
[00:17:27] at when this act was even announced, it was based on Mario
[00:17:31] Drag's competitiveness report, and even he said you've got to focus
[00:17:35] on future forward investment. like semiconductors,
[00:17:38] like AI, um, clean tech. this act pretty much leaves out two the
[00:17:42] major events that we need to focus on and places that we should be investing in,
[00:17:46] and then you start looking at what's happening between France and Germany and how that plays out in
[00:17:50] parliament. this has gone very far away from where even the commission started
[00:17:54] out from, so I'm thinking AFD, national
[00:17:57] Front, everyone's having a bit of influence and how governments are thinking
[00:18:01] about where they need to put tax payer money. thanks, my three. Peter,
[00:18:05] to you, would you agree that they all want? to do something, they all agree
[00:18:09] that something is needed, but they're not exactly singing off the same songsheet in
[00:18:13] Europe on this. I think that's more or less
[00:18:17] inevitable. Brugel did a very good paper on this
[00:18:21] program uh in May
[00:18:25] and they made the point that the objectives are a bit
[00:18:28] confused, is it trying to bring
[00:18:31] industrialization back to Europe or is it
[00:18:34] trying to... resilience,
[00:18:38] which are really rather different things and different
[00:18:41] countries have genuinely different interests,
[00:18:45] the the Germans have different industrial
[00:18:48] structure, France probably doesn't have quite as much of different
[00:18:52] interest as the Germans do, but they think they do,
[00:18:55] meanwhile countries of central and eastern Europe have much
[00:18:59] more interest in attracting Chinese
[00:19:03] investment that they do in hoping that
[00:19:06] they themselves will be the producers
[00:19:10] of ultra advanced high-tech, the users a big trade
[00:19:14] off users of advanced technology and would be
[00:19:18] producers of it, and this argument still needs to
[00:19:22] be resolved, it's not just pure politics. well
[00:19:26] philip,
[00:19:26] is it just pure politics or is this simply about bringing
[00:19:29] industrialization back to Europe and fending off
[00:19:32] china? well, it's both of
[00:19:35] course, and I would say it's... not only that, it's also about helping
[00:19:39] Europe's industry that's been struggling lately, it's about
[00:19:43] getting the the energy transition of
[00:19:47] ground, it's about you, catching up on
[00:19:51] EVs and battery industry in China, and it's very much about
[00:19:54] you, adjusting the EU to new
[00:19:58] model of global geoeconomics, so it's
[00:20:02] about you know cutting dependencies, it's
[00:20:05] about you know being able to compete as
[00:20:08] well uh with the China and in some ways also
[00:20:12] adjusting to new normal because if you look at other
[00:20:16] countries like China like India also Turkey
[00:20:19] Brazil and so on they've been used in local content
[00:20:23] requirements so made in their country type of you
[00:20:27] know rules for a long time already and in some ways this is
[00:20:31] also about leveling the playing field in that sense and I
[00:20:35] think what's very important I think was mentioned before, also the rise the
[00:20:38] far right, it's very hard to sell promoters nowadays
[00:20:42] to say, we are paying tax payer money,
[00:20:46] investing that a fleet of Chinese PID
[00:20:50] buses while our car industry is going bus right
[00:20:54] now, so I think there
[00:20:55] are there's a whole lot of factors that play a role here, and and they
[00:20:59] all have their justification, at least
[00:21:02] to to some extent, thank you Philip, my three, it's all about China
[00:21:06] ultimately, isn't it, kind of fending them off, keeping them out of Europe and
[00:21:10] boosting European companies, well that that's the narrow-minded approach
[00:21:14] that like I go keep going back to Druggy for reason because
[00:21:17] Brussels has been talking about that report that the they've based lot of things
[00:21:21] on on competitiveness and resilience, when I hear that people are
[00:21:25] still focused so much on China, I think people are also forgetting what's happened
[00:21:29] with Europe and the United States for the last two years
[00:21:32] almost, what makes a trusted partner at this point, we
[00:21:36] haven't addressed semiconductors, if we look at semiconductors where
[00:21:39] do we get them from, South Korea for example has
[00:21:43] huge operation when it comes to operating batteries in three
[00:21:47] quarters of it in the Europe, that that is going to get potentially affected,
[00:21:51] that could be an alternative to China, but what are we doing about the United States at this
[00:21:55] point? are we, why are we not investing in future
[00:21:58] technologies which would cater to our defense, which would have growth, which
[00:22:02] would give returns to the tax payer, unlike
[00:22:06] this particular act where they have a cost cap
[00:22:10] and and it's there's a cost cap of up to 25 to 30% more
[00:22:14] that they're willing to pay for anything that's made in Europe, how are you going to
[00:22:18] justify that to the tax? here who just wants to know that
[00:22:22] their money is being used sensibly for their own good, is it creating more
[00:22:26] jobs? how if you have solar panels that are coming in from
[00:22:30] China um and the ones made in Europe are about almost 14%
[00:22:33] more and you've made little caviets in there saying
[00:22:37] okay we'll have the converter be cheaper or make make the converters in
[00:22:41] Europe is that going to slow down the transition because the
[00:22:45] cost has gone up because it is in Europe what exactly are we
[00:22:48] gaining that's the bit i Brugel was quite unclear on, and I agree
[00:22:52] with them, we don't know what they're trying to do
[00:22:54] here.
[00:22:59] Record global heat from this year's Elnio has been described as
[00:23:02] Godzilla level and mindblowing by scientists. It's been
[00:23:06] projected to cause nearly half million deaths by February. Climate
[00:23:10] researchers are also warning it could push 50 million people
[00:23:14] into extreme hunger around the world. Is
[00:23:17] naturally occurring weather event that has happens every two to seven
[00:23:21] years, so why are scientists so worried about this
[00:23:24] one? people are calling it mind-blowing, godzilla
[00:23:28] level, how worried are you? always to be safe rather
[00:23:32] than sorry, um, yeah, i'm i'm worried,
[00:23:36] um, most of what's going to happen is going to happen, it hasn't happened
[00:23:40] yet, there are some instances around the world that we're now looking
[00:23:44] at to say yes, that's attributable to uh, the el
[00:23:48] ninho, um, particularly the pacific, the the
[00:23:51] hurricanes, sorry, yeah, the hurricanes that are occurring, um, so
[00:23:55] I think it's right to be worried, because if you're worried then you you may act, and if you're going
[00:23:59] to act then at least
[00:24:00] you you got some chance of of being safe when the worst does
[00:24:04] arrive, so that's the right direction of travel. Olivia, to you,
[00:24:08] how concerned are you about the data and the predicted levels of
[00:24:12] heat we're seeing with this so-called super
[00:24:14] elninho? I'm concerned
[00:24:18] because the super elninho... and is essentially happening against
[00:24:22] the background of very severe and acute sort of
[00:24:25] acceleration of climate change on the one hand
[00:24:29] and at the same time geopolitically fragmented world, and we
[00:24:32] know that essentially a moment when the world is
[00:24:36] brital in terms of resilience level,
[00:24:39] the food scarcity or food disruption,
[00:24:43] energy disruption, disaster effects that will essentially
[00:24:47] enter the international security system. then the next
[00:24:50] year are going to bring additional stress that we're not
[00:24:54] currently geared or prepared to deal
[00:24:57] with without having competitive effect or protectionist
[00:25:01] effects. thank you. Samantha, to you, just talk me
[00:25:05] through these record breaking sea temperatures, why should we
[00:25:09] be concerned and why are they so bad with this particular elninio
[00:25:12] event? yeah, great question.
[00:25:16] so the ocean is really the driver of our... climate
[00:25:20] system, so it has absorbed 90% the excess
[00:25:24] heat from climate change, and it it drives our weather and
[00:25:27] climate, so a warmer world we get
[00:25:31] more evapo transpiration, which means we have more energy available
[00:25:35] for storms, it makes heat waves worse,
[00:25:38] and you has major implications for marine ecosystems
[00:25:42] as well, and so this particular elnino
[00:25:46] event, which is naturally occurring event is a...
[00:25:50] an ocean
[00:25:52] that is warmer than it has ever been
[00:25:54] before, and the impacts that come from
[00:25:58] elnino events are very much associated with
[00:26:03] the lack of rainfall, so drying or
[00:26:05] flooding, and the wildfire risk that comes
[00:26:09] from very dry areas and we've seen that already in Indonesia,
[00:26:13] there's record levels of wildfires in
[00:26:16] Indonesia as part of this only new event,
[00:26:19] so there there is huge concern of how this
[00:26:23] event will continue to develop and what the implications
[00:26:27] these um record ocean temperatures will have on
[00:26:31] driving whether? patterns around our world and the
[00:26:34] implications for global mean temperature both for the rest of
[00:26:37] 2026 and also for next year as well, which is already
[00:26:41] forecast to be the warmest year that human humanity has ever
[00:26:45] experienced. thank you. jonathan, predicted
[00:26:49] 450,000 deaths in the next six months because of
[00:26:53] elnio. predominantly these countries they are in the global
[00:26:56] south and and they really don't have the infrastructure to deal
[00:27:00] with this, prepare for it
[00:27:02] or or... anyway contend with
[00:27:03] this? yes, so I
[00:27:07] think um, we've known for a long time that factors such as
[00:27:10] inequality or poverty um can dramatically
[00:27:14] affect people's risk, and as Olivia was saying before, these
[00:27:18] compound factors of geopolitical events or just simply you
[00:27:22] know prices
[00:27:23] of grain can really impact people if they're on
[00:27:25] the edge, and there are hundreds of millions of people on the edge of food
[00:27:29] security across the world. now withou, however, will affect
[00:27:33] um global you know globally basically lots of different countries,
[00:27:37] but the ones that we as the uh the red cross recressant network focused on are
[00:27:40] those where we expect the impacts to be most acute,
[00:27:44] and um I think one the very difficult
[00:27:48] things about this is that communities and people who are on the edge
[00:27:52] really have a, the added uncertainty of climate
[00:27:55] change, so are the hazards getting more intense and more extreme, which often
[00:27:59] they are, are they coming more frequently, which often they... are
[00:28:03] um and are they more uncertain? yes, often they are,
[00:28:07] and and matched to that are people's vulnerabilities, which are often
[00:28:11] much worse or much different to people who live near them, and then you
[00:28:15] have elninu top of that where things just happen at different
[00:28:18] times to what you would expect, the rains come late, the rains come
[00:28:22] early, you might be a drought one minute, and as we know
[00:28:26] antecedent also before conditions, if there's dry ground, then when it
[00:28:30] rains you often get lots of flash floods. you get worse flooding, so it's
[00:28:33] very, very challenging uh for
[00:28:35] people,
[00:29:06] A child learns to hate the
[00:29:08] sky, eats
[00:29:12] dust, not bread, breathes ash,
[00:29:16] not air, she
[00:29:20] doesn't know her name yet, all she sees
[00:29:23] is gray, her mother hums a
[00:29:27] lalami, but she only hears the
[00:29:30] drones.
[00:29:34] Sleep is not rest, it is
[00:29:37] surrender. This is
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[00:30:25] Davis, also ahead on the program, taking over more
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[00:30:33] Israel continues its genocidal steps across
[00:30:37] Gaza. The war in Ukraine takes
[00:30:40] an unexpected ceasefire turn with both sides said to be
[00:30:44] ceasing all attacks on energy
[00:30:46] infrastructure. And Pakistan
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