TRTWORLD — Roundtable 20261012 053000 UTC 487 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:10] You're a watching TRT World, I'm Yashini Padiachi with the reminder of [00:00:14] our main headlines: hundreds of flights out of Saudi Arabia's [00:00:18] capital are being cancelled after the main airport came under [00:00:21] attack for second day. One person was killed and 11 wounded [00:00:25] in a Sunday [00:00:26] a afternoon of strike. Ansara hutis from neighboring Yemen [00:00:30] claiming responsibility, they say they were also behind a missile [00:00:33] strike on King Khalid international airport on Saturday, which killed [00:00:37] 13 and injured more than 300. 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[00:02:49] of coming up on this week's review of round [00:02:53] table. three years since the genocide in Gaza [00:02:56] began, I speak to the UK's Palestinian ambassador. about the [00:03:00] shift in global attitudes and his hope for a future state of [00:03:04] Palestine in his lifetime. Also on the show, the [00:03:08] UN estimates the rebuild of Gaza [00:03:10] a will cost $71 billion dollars. Who will [00:03:14] a pay? EU states are [00:03:17] of divided over its made-in europe plan to counter competition from [00:03:20] China. Can they unite before it's too [00:03:23] late? And as this year's Godzilla [00:03:27] of Elninho intensifies science. is warn of extreme [00:03:31] peace, death [00:03:32] of risk. [00:03:48] hello and welcome to this week's review of round table. i'm mentor [00:03:51] brady, now palestine's ambassador to the UK who sumlot [00:03:55] says Britain has moved from words to action as it resets [00:03:59] its policy on Israel, the UK recently announced sanctions [00:04:03] targeting Israeli settlers in the occupied west bank and [00:04:06] formally recognized the state of Palestine in September last [00:04:10] year. I discuss with Zumlot how political and global [00:04:13] public sentiment towards Israel has shifted. Talk to [00:04:17] me about how you felt seeing what happened in the United States, for example, the the [00:04:21] Macalmore concerts, edgeren's involvement as well, [00:04:25] countries like Ireland, players not wanting to play against Israel. Do you think [00:04:28] things have shifted in term? of a cultural boycott as well, water shed [00:04:32] moments, [00:04:33] of the those are watershed moments that are [00:04:35] of recorded in the history in the long journey and march [00:04:39] in of the palestinian people towards freedom, and that's why I stood by the [00:04:43] UK foreign secretary in Liverpool last week during the labor [00:04:46] party conference, and I said, [00:04:48] of Mr. Secretary, today I can say that this is [00:04:52] Palestine's South Africa moment because [00:04:54] of these watershed moments. We have always had the people, the [00:04:58] people at the grassroot. [00:05:01] of level at the streets have always sided with justice, but [00:05:05] we had issue with mainstreaming because [00:05:10] in of the media because of the narrative, because [00:05:10] of the false hasbara. and and [00:05:13] you know disinformation campaign, you know the story very well, but [00:05:17] now it is mainstream it is at the celebrity [00:05:21] level, these are big names, i was following one after [00:05:25] another, and it wasn't just about the heroic act and the very [00:05:29] principled act of Mclamore, he was the one who knocked [00:05:32] you know the the the wall and the flood gates [00:05:36] came right open because the entire band with ed [00:05:39] Sharen declined to participate, [00:05:43] all Irish people, they that was a collective act of saying, it is our [00:05:47] right, it is our freedom of speech, we will speak our minds as [00:05:51] artists, and then only two days ago you've seen another [00:05:54] mega, mega superstar, Zach, [00:05:58] Brian, having a shirt free Palestine, so the flood gate [00:06:02] is or gates are open, and that's why I said last week, this is [00:06:06] our South Africa moment, and what do I mean by South Africa moment? This [00:06:10] is moment when the people the world as to the south africans, [00:06:14] the people the world decided to collapse the apartide regime and it [00:06:18] was collapse and south africa was free and mandela was free, when [00:06:22] the people decide, maybe it takes time, your job and my job is to [00:06:26] make that time you know to bridge [00:06:29] that gap between the people and the governments, whether in Britain, whether in the US [00:06:33] or anywhere else, but definitely, definitely the the direction [00:06:37] of travel is going towards the finally the [00:06:41] achieving palestinian rights with a global movement, Palestine [00:06:45] has become globalized and Israel has [00:06:48] become the glob palestinized, meaning there has been [00:06:52] a great deal of violation of human rights [00:06:56] everywhere starting from Palestine, because when genocide is being [00:07:00] normalized, other actors are watching, so people other [00:07:03] people have realized that what happens in Palestine does not stop [00:07:07] in Palestine, and now as result you have global Palestine where [00:07:11] Palestine has become global. and it has become a [00:07:14] domestic political election issue in every [00:07:18] country and that's why governments are listening because their people are telling [00:07:22] are telling them if you take the right decision if you side with the [00:07:26] right side [00:07:28] if you side with justice with international law you will be rewarded [00:07:32] in the ballet box if not you will be punished that's a [00:07:36] huge historic development ambassador you mentioned elections there [00:07:40] is an election coming in israel you like to see happen, what would you like to [00:07:44] see the Israeli people do at the ballot box? [00:07:48] elect leaders who would recognize that Israel cannot [00:07:51] exist at the expense of another people, that it cannot subjugate, [00:07:55] oppress, [00:07:56] you know, steal the land of demolish houses of [00:08:00] genocide, ethnic lensing of another people for 80 years, this [00:08:04] has got to stub, they need to deliver their verdict via the ballet box [00:08:08] that they will elect leaders who will stand there and say we [00:08:12] recognize the Palestinian able right of self determination and we [00:08:16] recognize the state of Palestine and we will work together so we establish [00:08:20] neighborly relationship. That's what I expect. However, [00:08:23] this is not the case. Palestine does not exist in the [00:08:27] Israeli elections right now. Our rights are not part their conversation. [00:08:31] There is no one zionist party in Israel that [00:08:34] is engaged in and even willing to think [00:08:38] and engage with us about the two-state solution. What will it say about? [00:08:43] Israeli society, if people like Smodric and Ben Gavier [00:08:46] get reelected given everything they've said over the past three years and [00:08:50] done that they have gotten the wrong message by the international community that they could [00:08:54] have the cake and 82, they have a culture of impunity that they [00:08:58] could keep going from extreme to fanatical extreme to [00:09:01] fascism all the way to smatrage and being ver without consequences. the [00:09:05] issue with the Israeli public is that they were told by Netanyahu [00:09:08] they can actually make and turn, he can turn the occupation in... [00:09:12] permanent, the illegality into permanent, the oppression into permanent, and [00:09:16] there will be no consequences. this calculus, this message needs to be [00:09:20] changed, that's why what the UK government did only few weeks ago is [00:09:24] important, because we shifted from words to action, from [00:09:28] statements and condemnation to consequences and that's [00:09:31] why this is the way forward, the south africa moment is the way [00:09:34] forward. [00:09:39] the reconstruction of gaza could take up to de cade and is [00:09:43] estimated to cost more than 70 billion dollars. nearly [00:09:47] 75,00 people have been killed there in the three years since Israel [00:09:51] began its war on Gaza, and despite a fragile cease fire, the EU has [00:09:55] launched its team Gaza initiative with an initial one billion [00:09:58] dollars for early reconstruction efforts, but when would this [00:10:02] money reach Palestinians and what role can Europe play in the [00:10:06] rebuilt? taught me through the sheer scale [00:10:10] of reconstruction that would be needed. in Gaza: we're [00:10:14] talking about 68 million ton [00:10:18] of dreams, hope, [00:10:20] memories, leftover of [00:10:23] Palestinian who been kill. with their bones knock down until [00:10:27] now, so we're talking about insane amount [00:10:30] of uh work that has to be done in Gaza, we're [00:10:34] talking about city that was ripped off the map, [00:10:37] we saw the Google Map comparing because [00:10:41] between the reality, how it was and how it is right now, [00:10:45] you're talking about a whole city that was ripped off the map, so it's [00:10:49] a huge amount of work that is needed in Gazer [00:10:52] right now, thank you. Jane, is there an [00:10:56] appetite in Europe to get involved here and play its part and help in the [00:11:00] reconstruction? What are you picking up from Europe? European [00:11:04] countries have been so divided over this that it's often seemed easier to [00:11:07] do very little or nothing uh, but we have seen big [00:11:11] differences among European countries, we have seen the the UK [00:11:15] working particularly with Jordan on humanitarian and [00:11:18] reconstruction issues, we've seen France working on Palestinian governance and [00:11:22] political reform, we're not seeing the... large skill collective [00:11:26] effort that's really needed to move the needle. are you disappointed that [00:11:30] we see Europe moving at lightning pace to help Ukraine when when [00:11:34] military support and humanitarian aid is needed in Ukraine? [00:11:38] they can all coordinate a matter of hours. and yet when it comes to [00:11:42] Gaza, there seems to be this hesitation. look, [00:11:45] globally, Europe has lost a great deal of [00:11:48] credibility as part the world that tries to speak with [00:11:51] normative voice and to speak about morality. in foreign [00:11:55] policy about multilateralism, international law, human rights, [00:11:59] the glaring differences between the treatment of Palestine and the [00:12:03] treatment of Ukraine have really undermined that credibility, of course they are two [00:12:07] different conflicts, but it does appear to many around the world as though the lives of [00:12:11] Palestinians are being valued less than the lives of Europeans. Thank [00:12:14] you. Hue, of course, nothing can happen until the conflict ends [00:12:18] a proper seizfire is implemented, just give us your [00:12:22] thoughts on how important that is. Yeah, certainly. [00:12:25] so this is not just humanitarian crisis, this is also a political [00:12:28] crisis and it's the political issue that has caused the humanitarian [00:12:32] crisis, and so president Trump announced [00:12:35] his so-called 20-point plan to end the war in Gaza almost [00:12:39] a year ago to the day, um, year on, it's a cease [00:12:43] fire in name only and it's a ceasfire for one side only. [00:12:47] Palestinian armed groups have largely if not entirely respected that cease [00:12:51] fire, but over the last year Israel has not and has continued. [00:12:55] 'It's not just targeted killing of Hamas militants, [00:12:59] but also continued strikes that have killed Palestinian civilians, has [00:13:02] continued to systematically destroy large parts of [00:13:06] Gaza and to deny the entry of humanitarian aid and reconstruction, so [00:13:10] without [00:13:11] Israel fulfilling [00:13:12] its obligations under the first phase the ceasefire deal, there can't [00:13:16] be any progress on the political issue nor any progress towards [00:13:19] reconstruction. Thanks you, faten, talk to me [00:13:23] about what has been lost forever'. in Gaza, the [00:13:26] culture, the history, the the [00:13:28] landmarks, everything that has been flattened by [00:13:32] Israel, just talk [00:13:33] to me about how that has left Palestinian people feeling these past three [00:13:37] years, helpless, hopeless, and no dream of [00:13:40] tomorrow, though the magic thing about the power in people in [00:13:44] Gaza, that now the recreating and new ways [00:13:48] of surviving, they're not waiting for the cement uh to come [00:13:51] from out of side the country, they're rediscovering ways of building [00:13:55] blocks out of nothing of the sand, the going back to ancient [00:13:59] history style of b building by [00:14:02] mixing the sand that ghaz is very famous off [00:14:06] with the leftover rubble that they have. gaz is [00:14:10] creative, the people in there, they manage to learn new terms [00:14:14] and new ways of survival, but at the same time [00:14:18] those are very slow process way to [00:14:22] do it, and in between we're talking about three [00:14:25] years generation kids that [00:14:29] were born in the war and now they are three years old [00:14:33] with zero education, we're talking about three [00:14:36] generation that lost the hope of [00:14:39] tomorrow, how they're going to finish their high school, how they're gonna even [00:14:43] go through the simple right of studying in the first [00:14:47] place, those people are growing up with the minimum, and the [00:14:51] minimum is always what scared the people, now more and more people, [00:14:55] 'especially if I'm a mother and have kids, I would [00:14:59] hold to the dream of I'm not gna get out of, but then I will be [00:15:03] unjustice to my kids if I decide to stay there [00:15:07] and drip away the their dream of having a [00:15:11] better future, so it's not only about the [00:15:14] rubble and it's not only about those stones and houses and dreams [00:15:18] and hope, it's about tomorrow, they stole tomorrow from [00:15:22] them, and that's the scariest part'. for every single human [00:15:26] being in. Thank you. Jane, to get towards [00:15:29] reconstruction, just going back to the cease fire and what needs to happen [00:15:33] next. Hamas says they won't disarm until such [00:15:37] point as the Israeli military pull out of Gaza and Israel [00:15:40] says that won't happen until Hamas disarms, so we're in [00:15:44] this very strange situation with nobody prepared to give [00:15:47] inch, absolutely, and it is partly because the [00:15:51] so-called cease fire was pushed on the parties [00:15:55] by the US, and of course the Israeli government doesn't [00:15:59] can't say an outright no to the US, but there hasn't really [00:16:02] been that political will to to find a way to make [00:16:06] that progress. and of course we've [00:16:08] got is really elections coming up uh and so that is making everything like [00:16:12] even more uncompromising, the elections won't be a complete game changer, [00:16:15] but [00:16:16] it is possible if there's a different government that doesn't include [00:16:19] Netanyahu, ben Gavier and Smotrich, you might see a [00:16:23] little bit more wiggle room, you might see some that would like to go back to [00:16:27] the idea of not having the IDF inside Gaza, but you still likely [00:16:31] to have problems with Israel wanting to have full control of Gaza's borders [00:16:34] and that makes it really difficult to... rebuild, but also to get [00:16:38] economy going without being able to come and go, without being able to import [00:16:42] and export freely and all the things that we know makes economy [00:16:45] successful. [00:16:50] EU states are split over the blocks made in Europe initiative [00:16:54] aimed at boosting manufacturing and countering competition from [00:16:58] China. Members are unable to agree on what counts is [00:17:01] European and which countries should be allowed in. Germany is [00:17:04] pushing for trusted partners like the UK and Canada to be [00:17:08] included, but France wants only countries in the block, while [00:17:12] Spain is proposing a compromise, so can EU [00:17:15] member states unify and find a way forward before it's [00:17:19] too late. There doesn't seem to be very much agreement in Europe [00:17:23] on how to go forward with this, is there? nope, and if you [00:17:27] look at when this act was even announced, it was based on Mario [00:17:31] Drag's competitiveness report, and even he said you've got to focus [00:17:35] on future forward investment. like semiconductors, like [00:17:39] AI, um, clean tech. this act pretty much leaves out two the major [00:17:43] events that we need to focus on and places that we should be investing in, and then [00:17:47] you start looking at what's happening between France and Germany and how that plays out in [00:17:50] parliament, this has gone very far away from where even the commission started [00:17:54] out from, so I'm thinking AFD, national [00:17:57] Front, everyone's having a bit of influence and how governments are thinking [00:18:01] about where they need to put tax payer money. thanks, [00:18:04] my three, Peter, to you, would you agree that they all want? to do something, [00:18:08] they all agree that something is needed, but they're not exactly singing off [00:18:12] the same song sheet in Europe on this. I [00:18:16] think that's more or less inevitable. [00:18:19] Brugel did a very good paper on this [00:18:22] program in May and they made the [00:18:26] point that the objectives are a bit confused, is [00:18:30] it trying to bring industrialization back to Europe, [00:18:34] or is it trying to... [00:18:37] resilience, which are really rather different things and different [00:18:41] countries have genuinely different interests, [00:18:45] the the Germans have different industrial [00:18:48] structure, France probably doesn't have quite as much of different [00:18:52] interest as the Germans do, but they think they do, [00:18:55] meanwhile countries of central and eastern Europe have much [00:18:59] more interest in attracting Chinese [00:19:03] investment that they do in hoping that [00:19:06] they themselve. will be the producers [00:19:10] of ultra advanced high-tech, the users a big trade [00:19:14] off users of advanced technology and would be [00:19:18] producers of it, and this argument still needs to [00:19:22] be resolved, it's not just pure politics. but [00:19:26] philip, is it just pure politics or is this simply about bringing [00:19:29] industrialization back to Europe and fending off [00:19:32] china? well, it's both of [00:19:35] course, and I would say it's... not only that, it's also about helping [00:19:39] Europe's industry that's been struggling lately, it's about [00:19:43] getting the the energy transition of [00:19:47] ground, it's about you, catching up on [00:19:51] EVs and battery industry in China, and it's very much about [00:19:54] you, adjusting the EU to new [00:19:58] model of global geoeconomics, so it's about [00:20:02] you know cutting dependencies, it's about [00:20:06] you know being able to compete as well with the US [00:20:10] and China and in some ways also adjusting to new [00:20:14] normal, because if you look at other countries like [00:20:17] China, [00:20:18] like India, also Turkey, Brazil and so on, they've been [00:20:22] used in local content requirements, so made in their [00:20:25] country type of rules for a long time already, [00:20:29] and in some ways this is also about leveling the playing field in [00:20:33] that sense, and I think what's very important, I think was mentioned before, [00:20:37] also the rise the far right, it's very hard to sell [00:20:41] voters nowadays to say, we are paying tax [00:20:45] payer money, investing that a fleet of Chinese [00:20:49] PID while our car industry is [00:20:53] going bust right now, so I think there [00:20:55] are there's a whole lot of factors that play a role here, and and they [00:20:59] all have their justification and at least to to some [00:21:03] extent, thank you Philip, my three, it's all about China ultimately, isn't [00:21:07] it, kind of fending them off, keeping them out of Europe and boosting [00:21:10] European companies, well that that's the narrow-minded approach that, like [00:21:14] I go keep going back to Druggy for reason because Brussels has been [00:21:18] talking about that report that the... they've based lot of things on on [00:21:22] competitiveness and resilience, when I hear that people are still focused so [00:21:26] much on China, I think people are also forgetting what's happened with Europe and the [00:21:29] United States for the last two years almost, [00:21:33] what makes a trusted partner at this point, we haven't addressed [00:21:37] semiconductors, if we look at semiconductors where do we get them from, [00:21:41] South Korea for example has huge operation when it [00:21:45] comes to operating batteries in three quarters of it in the Europe, that that is [00:21:49] going to get potentially affected, that could be an alternative to China, but [00:21:53] what are we doing about the United States at this point? are we, why are we not [00:21:57] investing in future technologies which would cater to our [00:22:01] defense, which would have growth, which would give returns to the tax [00:22:04] payer, unlike this particular act where they [00:22:08] have a cost cap, and and it's there's a cost cap of up to [00:22:12] 25 to 30% more that they're willing to pay for anything [00:22:16] that's made in Europe, how are you going to justify that to the tax? here [00:22:20] just wants to know that their money is being used sensibly for their own [00:22:24] good, is it creating more jobs? how if you have [00:22:27] solar panels that are coming in from China um [00:22:31] and the ones made in Europe are about almost 14% more and you've [00:22:35] made little caviets in there saying okay we'll have the converter be [00:22:39] cheaper or make make the converters in Europe is that going to slow down [00:22:43] the transition because the cost has gone up because it is in [00:22:46] Europe [00:22:47] what exactly [00:22:48] are we gaining that's the bit i Brugel was quite unclear on, and [00:22:52] I agree with them, we don't know what they're trying to do [00:22:54] here. [00:22:59] Record global hate from this year's Elnio has been described as [00:23:02] Godzilla level and mindblowing by scientists. It's been [00:23:06] projected to cause nearly half million deaths by February. Climate [00:23:10] researchers are also warning it could push 50 million people [00:23:14] into extreme hunger around the world. Is [00:23:17] naturally occurring weather event that has happens every two to seven [00:23:21] years, so why are scientists so worried about this [00:23:24] one? people are calling it mind-blowing, godzilla [00:23:28] level, how worried are you? always to be safe rather [00:23:32] than sorry, um, yeah, i'm i'm worried, [00:23:36] um, most of what's going to happen is going to happen, it hasn't happened [00:23:40] yet, there are some instances around the world that we're now looking [00:23:44] at to say yes, that's attributable to uh, the el [00:23:48] ninho, um, particularly the pacific, the the [00:23:51] hurricanes, sorry, yeah, the hurricanes that are occurring, um, so [00:23:55] I think it's right to be worried, because if you're worried then you you may act, and if you're going [00:23:59] to act then at least [00:24:00] you you got some chance of of being safe when the worst does [00:24:04] arrive, so that's the right direction of travel. Olivia, to you, [00:24:08] how concerned are you about the data and the predicted levels of [00:24:12] heat we're seeing with this so-called super [00:24:14] elninho? I'm concerned [00:24:18] because the super elninho... and is essentially happening against [00:24:22] the background of very severe and acute sort of [00:24:25] acceleration of climate change on the one hand [00:24:29] and at the same time geopolitically fragmented world, and we know [00:24:33] that essentially a moment when the world is [00:24:36] brital in terms of resilience level, [00:24:39] the food scarcity or food disruption, [00:24:43] energy disruption, disaster effects that will essentially [00:24:47] enter the international security system. then the next [00:24:50] year are going to bring additional stress that we're not [00:24:54] currently geared or prepared to deal [00:24:57] with without having competitive effect or protectionist [00:25:01] effects. thank you. Samantha, to you, just talk me [00:25:05] through these record breaking sea temperatures, why should we [00:25:09] be concerned and why are they so bad with this particular elninio [00:25:12] event? yeah, great question. [00:25:16] so the ocean is really the driver of our... climate [00:25:20] system, so it has absorbed 90% the excess [00:25:24] heat from climate change, and it it drives our weather and [00:25:27] climate, so a warmer world we get [00:25:31] more evapo transpiration, which means we have more energy available [00:25:35] for storms, it makes heat waves worse, [00:25:38] and you has major implications for marine ecosystems [00:25:42] as well, and so this particular elnino [00:25:46] event, which is naturally occurring event is a... [00:25:50] an ocean [00:25:52] that is warmer than it has ever been [00:25:54] before, and the impacts that come [00:25:58] from events are very much [00:26:01] associated with the lack of rainfall, so [00:26:04] drying or flooding, and the wildfire [00:26:08] risk that comes from very dry areas and we've seen that already [00:26:12] in Indonesia, there's record levels of wildfires in [00:26:16] Indonesia as part of this only new event, [00:26:19] so there there is huge concern of how this [00:26:23] event will continue to develop and what the implications [00:26:27] these um record ocean temperatures will have on [00:26:31] driving weather. patterns around our world and the [00:26:34] implications for global mean temperature both for the rest of [00:26:37] 2026 and also for next [00:26:40] year as well, which is already forecast to be the warmest year that [00:26:43] human humanity has ever experienced. thank you. [00:26:47] jonathan, predicted 450,000 [00:26:51] deaths in the next six months because of elnio. predominantly these [00:26:55] countries they are in the global south and and they really don't have the [00:26:59] infrastructure to deal with this, prepare for it [00:27:02] or or... anyway contend with [00:27:03] this? yes, so I [00:27:07] think um, we've known for a long time that factors such as [00:27:10] inequality or poverty um can dramatically [00:27:14] affect people's risk, and as Olivia was saying before, these [00:27:18] compound factors of geopolitical events or just simply you [00:27:22] know prices [00:27:23] of grain can really impact people if they're on the edge, and there are hundreds of millions of [00:27:27] people on the edge of food security across the world. now [00:27:30] withou, however, will affect um global you [00:27:34] know globally basically lots of different countries, but the ones that we as [00:27:38] the uh the red cross recresment network focused on are those where we [00:27:41] expect the impacts to be most acute, and um I [00:27:45] think [00:27:45] you know one the very difficult things about this is that [00:27:49] communities and people who are on the edge really have a, [00:27:53] the added uncertainty of climate change, so are the hazards getting more [00:27:57] intense and more extreme, which often they are, are they coming more [00:28:01] frequently, which often they... are um and are they more [00:28:04] uncertain? yes often they are, and and matched to that are [00:28:08] people's vulnerabilities, which are often much worse or [00:28:12] much different to people who live near them, and then you have elninu top of that [00:28:16] where things just happen at different times to what you would [00:28:19] expect, the rains come late, the rains come [00:28:22] early, you might be a drought one minute, and as we know [00:28:26] antecedent or so before conditions, if there's dry ground, then when it [00:28:30] rains you often get lots of flash floods. you get worse flooding, so it's [00:28:33] very, very challenging uh for [00:28:35] people, [00:30:09] Saudi Arabias main airport is hit again. 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