TV3 — broadcast 20260818 210000 UTC 401 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:05] in the end, I connect much more with girls than with boys, and he is [00:00:09] heterosexual, so of course, people are surprised and say, "Look how smart he is, look at [00:00:12] her, poor thing, she has to accept that even if she likes boys, she has [00:00:16] to accept that she can only be with a boy if that's really our common point and where [00:00:20] I imagine a life at home with no, what [00:00:23] do you say, with me and two children, that's enough, that's out." [00:00:27] We have two children, eh, the older one who is 3 [00:00:31] years old is called Eiden, and the younger one who will be 7 months old, eh, [00:00:50] and, and what will you tell the children when they grow up or [00:00:53] what? We'll treat it normally, like, like, [00:00:57] I don't know, as if it were a normal couple, well, your mother. and your [00:01:00] father, I don't know how, yes, her, [00:01:03] yes, it's like the children who have two mothers or [00:01:07] two fathers or what [00:01:12] couple is the basis of do I know. [00:01:15] Until now, the two experiences we've had have [00:01:18] been very much eh of discovery, both for us and [00:01:22] for the other person, I say that they are like the [00:01:25] practices of polyamory, and there comes a moment when [00:01:28] you say, "Oh, you know, we can't." Yes, well, [00:01:32] someone who already has a little bit of [00:01:35] experience, who knows how to manage it, or who knows what they want, a [00:01:39] girl appeared and then I told Pau, "Dude, [00:01:43] tell her." Be with [00:01:45] us or no one. I remember one day he told [00:01:49] me, "He says, 'Oh, I cook super well, I don't know what, I don't know [00:01:52] how many, I'll make you a container.'" "Well, we'll [00:01:55] eat it." [00:01:58] No, because of course, in the end, when we talk, [00:02:00] the girl told him, "No, no, no, if I make you the container, it's only for you, Gesti [00:02:04] doesn't eat," eh, and I already thought, "Well, this one wants to take away my [00:02:08] almonds, my lands, but where did this girl [00:02:11] come from?" So, and he stayed with the girl from the [00:02:14] container, yes, we've made some videos on TikTok about the [00:02:17] container thing, there are many people who have been following us [00:02:20] since then. [00:03:00] a person who joins the couple is so mystical [00:03:04] or so that it is not easy, so it is like [00:03:07] finding a unicorn. People immediately see it as the jewel of the [00:03:11] couple, you know, they see it as a complement, that's it, and really for us, [00:03:15] once it forms the triad, it's [00:03:18] like everyone is equal in hierarchy, so [00:03:22] everyone is equal, looking for [00:03:30] if we broke up, [00:03:33] would you still be [00:03:36] polyamorous?" Of course, I've already found my [00:03:40] way of relating, the way I want to live, [00:03:43] whether you're there or not. [00:04:18] is created with communication, with [00:04:33] we are waiting for the moment [00:04:47] look at me, I'm falling for you, you [00:05:00] he's my boyfriend and this is Llorenç, he's also my [00:05:03] boyfriend, well, before I used to sleep one night with [00:05:06] each of them, I would rotate because there was only one [00:05:10] room for each of them, not them, I, I didn't... I had a room and [00:05:14] now, since Lluri works three days in the morning and three in the [00:05:17] afternoon, I sleep with him the three days he works in the afternoon [00:05:20] and the three days he works in the morning, at the moment, it's cold. In terms of polyamory, [00:05:24] a V-shape would be when a person [00:05:28] has two relationships, but these people [00:05:31] with whom they have relationships don't have relationships with each other, [00:05:35] so it's not a triangle, but rather only one part, it's the V- [00:05:39] shape. [00:05:50] People didn't give us much credibility and [00:05:54] they said, "Well, this will end in a few months." This has been going on for [00:05:57] 7 years, the three of us. I mean, 11 with him and 7 with him when [00:06:01] I met Alfredo, who at [00:06:03] first started a monogamous relationship. Lluri [00:06:07] also arrived and, well, [00:06:09] it was love at first sight. [00:06:19] And I started talking to Alfredo about it, saying, "Look, I really like [00:06:22] this, this has never happened to me before, [00:06:25] but I'm very clear that I didn't want to leave him either, [00:06:29] because I was also very much in love with him." It's true that at first you [00:06:32] might have those moments of jealousy when you [00:06:35] might see them give each other a kiss or whatever, [00:06:38] and so on, but well, in principle. [00:06:42] At the beginning we didn't kiss, I remember taking Joel to the [00:06:46] kitchen and saying, "I'm going for Coca-Cola," and Joel would come, it was like a quick [00:06:49] kiss and they would stop, they would stop [00:06:52] so that I wouldn't, but really in a short time it's [00:06:56] something we've internalized a lot and it has become something [00:06:59] that there's no problem with showing [00:07:03] affection between us or anything like that, and well, sometimes [00:07:06] you've sent us to a hotel, go to a hotel, but [00:07:10] well, just kidding. [00:07:17] it has greatly facilitated the situation that those two [00:07:21] had no problem sharing an apartment also, because at the time of living [00:07:24] as three, it's already more like a [00:07:26] family. [00:07:40] everywhere together, but it's true that I prefer [00:07:50] the three of us, first because the expenses are divided by three, second [00:07:54] because you have guaranteed fun because you can always [00:07:58] talk to one. [00:08:01] How well you must have it, like any couple, in the end we are at [00:08:05] home watching TV, we are not having [00:08:08] sex all the time, I mean, no, there are people who tell us no. [00:08:42] Yes, there is the possibility, isn't there, that if someone meets someone and falls in love, which has [00:08:46] also happened, no, for example, I have already settled down, no, [00:08:50] here with two people, I'm already fine, but for me, the action is not [00:08:53] that it's very cumbersome for [00:08:56] me to fall in love, eh, to share time, it's just too many new things, [00:09:00] it's like saying, yes, I could change jobs, but I'm fine as [00:09:03] I [00:09:05] am. [00:09:19] that I've put on that are very [00:09:22] good. Normally, whenever I can, I [00:09:26] bring him something or tell him to come and [00:09:28] take it. [00:09:34] Hello, Karim, look what I brought you. Oh, what [00:09:37] is it? Stew. How [00:09:40] are you? This is [00:10:25] "I'll take the bag, [00:10:28] I've always told you, you do whatever you want and the door is always open [00:10:31] to you, no matter what happens." [00:10:35] Unconditionally. [00:10:40] The Moca was the first common project of the [00:10:44] three of us as a family, so to speak. Always the [00:10:48] joke that the two dogs moved [00:10:52] into the house at the same time. I mean, [00:11:05] maybe we can't get married like other people or maybe we have more difficulties [00:11:09] adopting children if we ever want to adopt, [00:11:12] but we can do many other things and I have projects. [00:11:25] We must continue to think that a large part of the [00:11:29] amorous formulas that exist [00:11:32] are based on the fact that the [00:11:37] reproduction. Of course, and then we think that the [00:11:39] couple system has been [00:11:43] transforming and evolving, but also because to a large [00:11:46] extent, the reproductive formulas have also been [00:11:50] changing. That is, before, you could only reproduce [00:11:54] by having a partner. Nowadays, you [00:11:57] can have children without needing to have a partner, eh, [00:12:01] you can have children eh, from a donor, eh, there are [00:12:04] double donors, there are surrogate mothers, there are [00:12:08] homosexual couples who can also have children, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, and [00:12:12] therefore this is also an element that must be taken into account to [00:12:15] understand and explain how the traditional, [00:12:19] classic, monogamous couple, eh, has [00:12:23] transformed because its main function has also, in some [00:12:27] way, diversified. [00:12:43] I had a relationship with Ana and I had a relationship [00:12:47] with Jessi. Wait, [00:12:50] you're doing it backwards. Yes, yes, yes. [00:12:57] I am Ana, I am Jessie, I am Olga and [00:13:01] we are a throuple. It's recording [00:13:03] all of them. Okay, let's see, the [00:13:06] relationship that arises between the three, [00:13:10] let's say, at first was a [00:13:13] V-shape, which was me in this case, who had a [00:13:16] relationship with Ana and another relationship with [00:13:19] Jessi, but between the two of them there was [00:13:23] no relationship at all. In time, this [00:13:27] changed because in time, a series of feelings [00:13:30] also began to exist between them, [00:13:34] which, well, that this V-shape [00:13:37] really began to be a throuple. [00:13:56] And why do I like this so much? Okay, we upload it. [00:14:00] Polyamory, [00:14:04] throuple. [00:14:04] Well, from my [00:14:13] heterosexual relationship that [00:14:17] I had, [00:14:19] we had two children, a girl who is now 24 years old [00:14:23] and a boy who is... 21 years old. They are my children with one of the [00:14:27] heterosexual relationships I had. I had a [00:14:30] son who is now 12 years old. Well, I have their children [00:14:33] now. [00:14:36] Really, it would be that and together Ana and I have the [00:14:40] three-year-old girl and all together, we are seven, we form a big [00:14:43] family. [00:14:51] Yes, because that's what you know, eh, [00:14:58] to be able to have a child. I would also like to be a mother. [00:15:14] He signed up for Tira Marco with me and I [00:15:17] suppose I started to blossom [00:15:20] a feeling, I think I fell in love with them [00:15:23] and they talked and it was reciprocal. So, what do we do [00:15:26] now, what do we do if society says I have to choose [00:15:30] one or the other? I considered, well, [00:15:34] that I had to separate from Ana. [00:15:39] And this process of trying [00:15:42] to separate was difficult, we had a bad time, [00:15:45] I thought: "Will it be possible to love two people at [00:15:48] once?" [00:15:51] That's when we started a search to see if there were [00:15:54] people who experienced the same thing, and so on, well, we saw that [00:15:58] yes, we said, "What do we do? [00:16:00] Let's try it." We've been here for almost [00:16:04] two years now. So, of course, I found that [00:16:08] she was a person who had a partner who they had been together for six years, they had four [00:16:11] children, so I also had to add all this information [00:16:15] into my head, that I had to share not only the relationship but [00:16:19] also children. But I think it has all happened naturally, no, [00:16:23] in the end it has been easier than I expected. [00:16:36] Anyway. Two trips, one with Ana [00:16:39] and me and the other with Olga and Ana. The next [00:16:43] trip will be with Olga and me, so we'll do [00:16:46] one each, let's say, we'll repeat twice, not [00:16:49] too much. So it's a way to grow [00:16:53] between us as bonds. When they left, [00:16:55] I stayed at home, but I was super [00:16:58] happy to see the photos [00:17:00] and hear their [00:17:03] laughter. I was ecstatic, I didn't feel [00:17:07] jealous, no, no, I was very happy. [00:17:21] Sleeping together, eh, the first time felt a bit [00:17:25] strange, you know, to say, we took a photo, [00:17:27] everything. Olga and I had a 1.50 [00:17:31] meter bed, so when [00:17:34] the relationship with Jessi started, [00:17:38] they were having a bit of a hard time, we decided to change the room, take advantage and change the bed [00:17:42] and we put this one which is two by two. We changed the whole [00:17:46] room, the three comfortable so that each one has their [00:17:49] own comfortable and their drawers. The problem is we haven't found any solutions [00:17:53] here. [00:17:56] My mother, when she sees it, I don't know how she's going to take it. [00:18:00] The parents didn't want to meet her, they didn't want [00:18:03] to meet her and all the fear was that we wanted... [00:18:07] Ana and I. I thought I wouldn't lose [00:18:10] Ana. Finally, they [00:18:14] took the step, they met her and they saw the opposite. Now they are [00:18:17] delighted. Many times they say, "What luck you are [00:18:21] three, you can do it, you can [00:18:24] combine." The only person [00:18:26] who [00:18:29] could hurt me the most was my daughter, my eldest [00:18:33] daughter. [00:18:35] It didn't make me very happy, neither... They wanted to understand it, but in the [00:18:39] end, you realize that you leave your mother's [00:18:43] house, your family, your mothers [00:18:45] do and undo what they want and that they have to be happy, just as I can [00:18:49] live my life independently of what [00:18:53] others believe. So if they are happy, I'm fine, who am I to [00:18:57] tell them anything? They are my mothers and I consider that it is the [00:19:00] partner of my [00:19:02] mothers. [00:19:15] Yes. [00:19:22] Yes, I think Martina is the one who has seen it as more natural, but she has seen it since she was younger. [00:19:37] Let's situate ourselves, it's not mommy, mommy, the mamacita as a joke, [00:19:41] but it's true that Martina has made her the mamacita, not as you [00:19:45] say "mami", "mami"? And who [00:19:48] am I? The mommy, her? And what [00:19:59] well, eh, I say [00:20:02] I have three mothers and [00:20:05] we walk with our heads held high, it's not a... [00:20:15] But you can make your moves, right? For three, like you used to [00:20:19] go to Cocoa, no, mom would ask for 3 euros, you three [00:20:24] are [00:20:29] of course, legally it's not recognized to be a throuple, eh? [00:20:32] The issue is that at the level of raising children, what matters most is the day-to-day [00:20:36] and the involvement that [00:20:42] we have created a family, this cannot be [00:20:45] broken just because the law says certain [00:20:47] things. [00:21:23] I am Jesus and together we form a [00:21:26] triad and a game of Lego are pieces of Lego [00:21:30] that can be changed, that are movable and that are [00:21:34] equal and flexible and adaptable. When I met [00:21:37] Iris, well, for the first four years it was also a [00:21:41] monogamous relationship and then due to circumstances [00:21:45] we opened the couple, until Jesus [00:21:48] arrived, who is the person who at this moment is [00:21:52] forming the important bond, no, of what [00:21:56] is now the triad, which [00:21:59] began with a relationship between Iris and [00:22:02] Jesus. [00:22:08] The three of them for a socio-affective relationship among themselves. Clear, because more than a relationship, what [00:22:11] I wanted was to throw him off a cliff. So it was very [00:22:15] difficult to have a relationship when you have [00:22:18] these thoughts. I mean, and I dreamed of [00:22:21] cliffs, of taking him one day to Jesus, we're going to [00:22:25] Cantabria and such, and at that moment, "Oh, look what [00:22:29] happened," you know, I mean, some very terrible thoughts came to me, [00:22:32] no, it awakened a very, very, very horrible part in [00:22:36] me, but with time, with time, this [00:22:40] began to change because I said, "Well, he's a good guy, eh? He's so [00:22:43] good with Iris, he's a good guy, he's, he's, I like him, and [00:22:47] he bakes cakes that are great." Cakes and [00:22:50] oh, they are so good, and then everything [00:22:53] started to change and until one day my [00:22:57] head exploded, no, because because I was already feeling [00:23:01] things. I've been heterosexual all my life, totally hetero, hetero, [00:23:05] but hetero, hetero, eh, wow, I really like women and [00:23:08] I had never considered that a [00:23:12] person who was not a [00:23:15] woman could attract me and [00:23:18] and so... well, one day something [00:23:22] happened and we ended up all three together [00:23:25] at home, and I even [00:23:27] liked it. [00:23:34] The arguments of the [00:23:36] little one. [00:23:39] There are many other sexual identities that are between being a man [00:23:43] and being a woman. Right now, I don't define my [00:23:46] sexual orientation, I simply like people and... [00:24:09] It's that you can have a relationship and meet a person with whom you have a sexual [00:24:13] attraction and you have a beautiful connection and [00:24:16] perhaps, for however long it lasts, you want to enjoy that connection that there [00:24:20] is, whatever it may be. So, we currently have a relationship of, I have it with [00:24:24] Yauma, eh, I have it with Jesus, [00:24:27] eh, we have it all three of us, they two together and then each one [00:24:31] with himself and then also Jesus is meeting other people, [00:24:35] Yauma too, I, well, right now I'm more [00:24:38] focused on the two of them because right now I can't handle meeting more [00:24:42] people, so things are happening, I mean, [00:24:45] there are more connections. [00:25:01] Of course, in monogamy, what provides security is structure, but [00:25:04] actually, eh, security [00:25:08] talking, with sharing. Here, there is no [00:25:12] fixed structure, it's movable, [00:25:15] so there is no security there, so you have to talk much more, you have to [00:25:18] share much more. [00:25:22] For me, polyamory , well understood, which also has [00:25:25] many interpretations, is this: all relationships [00:25:28] must be at the same level, taking care of [00:25:32] friends, taking care of partners, [00:25:35] taking care of thousands of laughter [00:25:38] and from heaven it makes caunas [00:25:41] two, for each moment you return to [00:25:44] live, it says that it transports you to another [00:25:48] planet. [00:26:02] The throuple, no, but it's not that, it's not about that, [00:26:06] finally, for once, it's being shown that [00:26:09] people with a university can also be [00:26:12] desired, we can also desire, that is [00:26:15] fundamental, it's that here we kill both [00:26:18] men, we will give it to the, to the, to the grandmas, we will give [00:26:21] it to them for gosh. [00:26:24] Gosh. [00:26:36] I really like Jauma, he's a very [00:26:40] mm, how can I put it, he's a precious man, I [00:26:44] think he has a beautiful body, and he also has a [00:26:47] huge heart, eh, he's very [00:26:50] seductive. Now you can publicly acknowledge that in reality [00:26:53] you also used her to get to me. [00:26:56] That's good, you know that, right? [00:27:01] I can now say that I no [00:27:04] longer want to throw you off a cliff, as I felt at [00:27:07] the beginning. Now I want to share the views from the [00:27:11] cliff with you. As Antonio Machín said, "How can I love more than one [00:27:14] woman and not be crazy?" That was many years ago, but he was the first, for me [00:27:18] Antonio Machín was the first polyamorous person there was, and he didn't even [00:27:21] know it. [00:27:31] And not be crazy. [00:27:38] I prefer that, it's such a strange conversation, [00:27:41] okay, you're complicating things, so go on, do [00:27:45] it yourself this time, hello, I'm Mihai, [00:27:48] this is Tiffany, and I think, I hope we're [00:27:52] trying to make relational [00:27:55] anarchy together and with everyone in our [00:27:58] lives. Australia when I was 25 years old. [00:28:02] I've been living in Norway on and off for about 10 years, I had my [00:28:06] son when I was 28 and when [00:28:09] I turned 29 we moved to Japan, [00:28:13] I wanted the best for my son, so I decided to go back to [00:28:16] Norway, and while I was there I [00:28:19] met a Catalan boy online and we came to [00:28:23] live here in [00:28:24] Granollers. [00:28:39] I'll turn 45 and my sexual relationships will end, [00:28:41] that's it, this thought scared me a little. [00:28:45] I realized that our relationship [00:28:48] was ending and I [00:28:50] proposed to open it. [00:28:53] I think it's incredibly [00:28:56] hard, many people say that wanting to open the relationship to save it is [00:29:00] a big mistake, we... We made all the [00:29:03] possible mistakes, [00:29:06] it's great, you learn very quickly, my [00:29:10] ex-partner Albert dove into it and had a lot of practical [00:29:14] experience, I got very scared, we [00:29:18] had no idea what we were doing, to be honest. Now [00:29:22] it's been four years since Albert and I don't have a [00:29:25] romantic or sexual relationship, [00:29:29] we live together and raise our daughter. [00:29:33] We're together now, we have two [00:29:36] cats, we're like roommates, [00:29:39] he has a relationship outside our [00:29:42] family unit, [00:29:45] and I also have [00:29:48] another one. I am originally from Romania, [00:29:52] from Transylvania in the north, now close to the war, in fact, [00:29:55] and I was traveling through Europe. I liked Barcelona also for [00:29:59] many things, but... I love the [00:30:02] politics, I love that [00:30:05] people still have hope of being able to change things. I come from [00:30:09] Romania, a post-communist [00:30:12] country. I don't know how, I don't remember, I discovered the [00:30:15] word Polyamory, I said, "Wow, there are other [00:30:19] people who not only think like that, but live it [00:30:22] and they have a culture, they have [00:30:25] words, they have the book, voila, yes, [00:30:28] like that, honestly I felt sick, [00:30:32] psychiatrically, that I couldn't commit [00:30:36] enough, but then reading more and getting more into the [00:30:40] community, saying no, it's an option. I will say that the [00:30:43] orientation is curious, [00:30:46] perhaps, I love to explore. I had [00:30:49] quite a few experiences with men, but [00:30:52] the attraction in general doesn't come from the men's side, [00:30:55] so for me the attraction to Tiffany is the thought, it's...