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[00:00:00] they should do this, this, like this, like this, and we will bring
[00:00:03] a plan to the president of the government, which is what
[00:00:06] would be, listen, if
[00:00:10] I hope I pronounced the name correctly, she is a member of we have a plan and we want the government to listen because if they approved a decree, we want them to take it
[00:00:13] into account, but that's not what they're considering, I want
[00:00:16] an opportunity,
[00:00:18] to see if on Monday we have the opportunity to talk to the deputies of
[00:00:22] together in Congress and ask them, eh, also ask them
[00:00:25] about what Joan Serra said, that it will soon be a year
[00:00:29] since those of Carles Puigdemont
[00:00:32] gave them completely broken, it was politically interesting today, it was politically interesting today
[00:00:36] to what extent Miriam Nogueras' speech put the focus of pressure
[00:00:40] on Podemos because I think we are here now too, that is,
[00:00:43] everyone plays their cards, tries to, eh, I think, provide their
[00:00:47] solutions to get out of where they belong or where they believe they
[00:00:51] should be in the housing debate in the photograph I mentioned before, and now it's
[00:00:54] about who is reticent, that is, what are the measures that
[00:00:58] are part not of the debate and who are the parties or the
[00:01:02] formations that are reticent to this, and today this pressure from
[00:01:06] Junts specifically on Podemos but it's not just a year, it's
[00:01:10] that on Tuesday
[00:01:12] Jordi Turull held a press conference about
[00:01:16] the assessment of the amnesty and I was there,
[00:01:19] that is, they didn't tell me, I asked him
[00:01:23] if it changed, eh, eh, the implementation of
[00:01:26] the amnesty as a reality, yes,
[00:01:30] it changed the relationship with the PSOE. The answer was that nothing changed and that the
[00:01:33] relations remained broken, and two days later, Mari Carmen works
[00:01:37] miracles, listen, it turns out that we are negotiating the housing decree
[00:01:41] quickly and
[00:01:44] very free country, everyone can do what hurriedly. We will continue to report from
[00:01:46] Monday. Eh, I want to go to Lleida because today the City Council has approved an
[00:01:50] ordinance, we talked about it at the time here in the evening, which prohibits
[00:01:53] wearing the Burqa and the Niqab in the street, also in public buildings. The
[00:01:57] PSC, Junts and Vox have voted in favor of the measure. Eh, to
[00:02:01] try to prevent the prohibition from being overturned by justice,
[00:02:04] as already happened, eh, places of worship are included
[00:02:08] many people who bother as an exception and there is no mention of the Islamic veil. Pau
[00:02:11] Espark, good evening. Hello, good evening, Marina. Are there other Catalan municipalities that
[00:02:15] have already prohibited the Burqa and the
[00:02:17] and is punctual about Niqab? Yes, there are, but we must say that
[00:02:20] they include nuances. In fact, to begin to explain this issue, we
[00:02:24] must go back to 2010, which is when Lleida, precisely,
[00:02:27] was the first municipality to...
[00:02:31] decide to prohibit the use of the full veil in its
[00:02:34] municipal facilities. So this
[00:02:37] caused between 2010 and
[00:02:39] 2012, fifteen Catalan towns also
[00:02:43] to prohibit eh, approve ordinances
[00:02:46] or motions in some cases that wanted to
[00:02:49] prevent access to public
[00:02:53] facilities if one went with the face covered, not in the street, which
[00:02:56] is what the City Council has also included now.
[00:03:00] Finally, the municipalities that deployed this prohibition between
[00:03:03] 2010 and 2012 were Lleida, Cervera, Reus, El
[00:03:07] Vendrell, Mollet del Vallès, Lloret de Mar and Castelló d'Empúries,
[00:03:11] but there is no record that they ever imposed sanctions and, in
[00:03:15] fact, eh, the ordinances of Lleida and Reus were
[00:03:19] annulled because justice said that they affected fundamental
[00:03:22] rights. Are there countries in Europe that
[00:03:26] specifically prohibit the Burqa and the Niqab? Yes, this
[00:03:30] case is very clear, there are prohibitions and the first one also
[00:03:33] started in 2010, this case was
[00:03:36] France the first country with a restrictive regulation that
[00:03:40] prevents the use of the full veil, in the street, in
[00:03:43] shops, in means of transport and in some
[00:03:46] public facilities, then other European
[00:03:50] countries such as Belgium, Bulgaria, Denmark, the
[00:03:53] Netherlands, Switzerland and Austria have joined, and it is in this last case in
[00:03:57] Austria where from this month the
[00:04:00] Islamic veil has been prohibited for students under
[00:04:04] Italy has also just announced that it will prevent
[00:04:07] wearing a covered face
[00:04:10] coexistence, that's it, that's what
[00:04:11] women in in educational centers, and another country that has just prohibited the Burqa and the Niqab in public
[00:04:16] all, that is, he spaces is Portugal, in Germany its use is prevented for
[00:04:19] civil servants, judges and military personnel. Ah, thank you Pau,
[00:04:23] it is a measure that has been approved with the votes in favor of the PSC, Junts, Vox,
[00:04:26] PP, Esquerra and the Comú de Lleida, and they have voted against it, they have justified it.
[00:04:31] In public spaces everyone should feel free and
[00:04:35] be able to participate in this desire for people to coexist, for people
[00:04:38] to understand each other, for people to participate. We have
[00:04:41] bought into the mental framework of the extreme right.
[00:04:45] National saviors, feminist saviors,
[00:04:49] invasions, categories of people. We have
[00:04:55] us, but the point of it very clear, we are against the use of the Burqa. The ordinance we are voting on today
[00:04:58] does not prohibit the burqa, but rather allows
[00:05:02] cruelly honest, that is, and regulates it, in fact, with the approval of this
[00:05:04] ordinance, the same women who wear the same burqas will continue to come
[00:05:08] to Lleida today, or even more.
[00:05:12] Well, these are the political interpretations that the parties make. I want to greet
[00:05:16] Sisa Xali El
[00:05:19] Uaquili,
[00:05:22] the equality area of the citizen platform
[00:05:25] Integra Lleida, Sisa, good evening, good
[00:05:27] night, hello,
[00:05:31] tell us, what do you think from this
[00:05:34] association that you are part of, that the city council
[00:05:37] has opted for this prohibition, how do you value
[00:05:41] the measure?
[00:05:44] Well, I, as an integrated
[00:05:48] person, eh,
[00:05:51] and there's freedom there, everyone can dress
[00:05:55] as they want, we are in the year
[00:05:58] 2001, but I, for example, the way
[00:06:02] people dress in the burqa or the hijab or whatever
[00:06:05] I see it as
[00:06:08] free, but
[00:06:12] eh, for example, I was in
[00:06:15] an open family, I have my sisters who wear
[00:06:18] the hijab, I, for example, was never forced
[00:06:22] to wear the hijab, but
[00:06:25] the burqa for us is not our
[00:06:29] culture, it's not, if you go to Morocco there aren't many people who
[00:06:33] wear the burqa, there are a few people,
[00:06:36] but it's a culture
[00:06:40] that has been
[00:07:13] introduced. But then the light came back, but there aren't many people,
[00:07:16] it's not like there are
[00:07:20] or whatever, no, there weren't, there aren't many, there are a few,
[00:07:24] but you see that those people don't even go to work or
[00:07:28] are integrated or whatever, no, it's a
[00:07:32] housewife who goes to pick up the children, but there are few, there are few
[00:07:36] people, it's not like the people who wear the hijab,
[00:07:39] the hijab, yes, there are quite a few people, of course. that
[00:07:42] would be the veil, eh, when we talk about the burqa and the niqab
[00:07:46] it's the one that covers the whole face, eh, it's covering the
[00:07:49] face, the burqa is covering the face,
[00:07:53] there are people who only show their eyes and there are few of those,
[00:07:56] but few in Lleida, I don't see that
[00:07:59] many, but for example, people who wear the hijab
[00:08:03] with their face uncovered, yes, there are quite a few, but
[00:08:07] this is the culture of
[00:08:10] the country of Morocco, of Islam.
[00:08:14] Clear, here, here, here, in any case, the city council is not
[00:08:17] prohibiting, what would be the Islamic veil, eh, it prohibits
[00:08:21] wearing the entire face covered in public buildings.
[00:08:50] Eh, a question, eh, the women who wear it, who wear the
[00:08:53] burqa or the niqab,
[00:08:57] can this prohibition make them not
[00:09:01] want to leave
[00:09:01] home?
[00:09:05] How about I ask you in Spanish? The
[00:09:09] measure, yes, the act of prohibiting, eh,
[00:09:12] wearing the burqa and the niqab in public
[00:09:15] spaces, can it make or cause
[00:09:18] these few
[00:09:23] the city of Lleida to decide not to leave home, not
[00:09:27] to leave home, excuse me?
[00:09:30] Well, it's going to be very prohibited and there
[00:09:33] will be consequences, of course,
[00:09:37] because there are people who wear it because
[00:09:40] they are convinced that they have to wear it.
[00:09:43] for family reasons or for themselves, because sometimes
[00:09:47] a woman is not forced, there are women who are
[00:09:50] forced, but there are women who
[00:09:54] convinced, so she is
[00:09:57] convinced of that, she is not going to
[00:10:00] end up not going out, do you understand?
[00:10:03] Of course, but it was unfair to
[00:10:07] prohibit a woman from leaving home for that.
[00:10:10] Yes, yes, ah, a...
[00:10:15] question and with this I will finish, eh
[00:10:17] if in any way, eh, in any
[00:10:20] form, eh, you feel that
[00:10:22] politically it is being used.
[00:10:55] racist proclamations that for real years
[00:10:58] it was unthinkable to see political parties
[00:11:02] claim that all people who come from Morocco
[00:11:06] must go back to their country eh I speak eh
[00:11:09] at a general level eh I don't know if in any
[00:11:12] way you feel singled out at this
[00:11:15] moment
[00:11:18] Well, yes, yes, there are many things
[00:11:21] we hear
[00:11:24] but eh there are also people
[00:11:28] who understand it differently because many politicians have taken advantage of
[00:11:31] this, many politicians have come to light,
[00:11:35] they have had much success because there are parties, for
[00:11:39] example, that were not before or were hidden,
[00:11:42] but now they come to light, they almost have a majority to
[00:11:46] attack themselves, let's say the word, I don't know,
[00:11:49] to attack these people, to return to the country or
[00:11:53] to integrate us. We are not against
[00:11:56] integration, but integration also has a point,
[00:11:59] not because I am in Spain I have to go
[00:12:03] eh, I don't know, completely uncovered or that, we are in a
[00:12:09] they want, do you understand, but for
[00:12:12] example, that people use it, politicians,
[00:12:15] yes, they use it, yes, yes, many politicians
[00:12:19] are using it as a reason to move
[00:12:23] forward, but...
[00:12:25] it's a shame, it's a shame because there are many things that are
[00:12:29] more important than getting into
[00:12:33] things like that, if a person is integrated and
[00:12:36] is working and is learning the language
[00:12:42] taking the children to school, integrating them, the
[00:12:45] children have no problem in the classrooms with the
[00:12:49] language and the woman also wants to integrate and
[00:12:52] wants to learn the language and all that.
[00:12:55] It's not a problem, I think it's not a problem, but the
[00:12:59] person who comes to
[00:13:02] provoke bad conflicts, that's
[00:13:05] not going to be good for the people who live here or the people who
[00:13:09] come from outside. Everyone, the law is for
[00:13:13] everyone, for everyone, because this person
[00:13:16] comes, comes today with a child, tomorrow
[00:13:20] they will have a child, tomorrow they will also have the right to vote
[00:13:23] and they already have. For example, our children are already
[00:13:27] voting, they are going to vote, they know what
[00:13:30] they want, so they
[00:13:34] are already part of society, they don't have
[00:13:36] to treat the issue like that, we have to treat the
[00:13:40] issue of integration, not
[00:13:42] say, no, no, no, if you don't wear that, you have to go
[00:13:45] outside, no, it's that people finally come, they come looking for a
[00:13:49] better future, and that's not bad for anyone, everyone knows
[00:13:53] that we have reached a point where everyone is emigrating
[00:13:56] abroad, like here, like Spaniards
[00:14:00] who now go abroad a lot, we who come from here, in the end
[00:14:04] people who come to improve their future and have the
[00:14:08] intention to integrate, eh, that can be
[00:14:12] proven in many ways, so
[00:14:15] this person does not provoke anything for
[00:14:19] anyone and and and if I, for
[00:14:22] example, we all eh... need to live
[00:14:25] peacefully, I want my child to go out, come
[00:14:29] back safe and sound, we live in a
[00:14:32] good
[00:14:35] we immigrants want too, we immigrants also want to live
[00:14:39] peacefully,
[00:14:43] we don't have, we don't want conflicts,
[00:14:46] but the people who come, for example, I don't think there are
[00:14:50] few people or the thing, I don't
[00:14:53] know, what people stumble upon along the way
[00:14:57] that becomes aggressive or that, nobody will want that,
[00:15:00] neither us as immigrants, nor
[00:15:03] you, nor anyone, no, it does not
[00:15:06] favor, it does not favor aggression,
[00:15:09] but to use this immigrant who gets up at the first
[00:15:13] hour of the morning to work, to
[00:15:17] serve the people who are paying taxes, who
[00:15:20] are doing everything they can, and this person just wants
[00:15:25] to live better and their children also live better and
[00:15:29] that's it, I think that's not a, it's not, it's not much
[00:15:33] to ask,
[00:15:35] so it's a shame, it's a shame that
[00:15:38] for example parties that instead
[00:15:41] of fighting for a
[00:15:45] good coexistence eh are
[00:15:48] pushing that no, that this immigrant has come to
[00:15:52] be no, not everyone,
[00:15:54] not everyone, also there are good and bad people
[00:15:58] and bad people also have their consequences, they have their
[00:16:02] punishment, they can do or respect that, the law must
[00:16:06] be respected by all.
[00:16:19] Thank you today for attending us here at Mesnit,
[00:16:21] thank you, yes, I hope
[00:16:24] that I have said something clear, but
[00:16:27] well, I am one of a
[00:16:30] few, there are many people, but I try, I try to integrate us
[00:16:34] and it's a shame, it's a shame that we are
[00:16:38] now in the 21st century showing that what we want
[00:16:42] is a better future for ourselves, for our children
[00:16:45] and that's it, we don't want problems, we don't want
[00:16:49] it to be a topic to
[00:16:52] climb on, but everyone
[00:16:55] is also free to
[00:16:59] it's a policy and that's it, thank you for
[00:17:02] everything, well thank you very much to you
[00:17:04] thank you for allowing me.
[00:17:09] Thank you, eh, that's why we wanted to collect eh, the
[00:17:12] voice of the community at a time when the city council approves
[00:17:16] a measure of these characteristics of everything that
[00:17:19] Alacisa Joan said, eh
[00:17:22] to see, mm, I was reflecting that there are women who
[00:17:26] wear it voluntarily and others who may be forced to do so. This is
[00:17:30] a thorny debate, eh, and it's complicated
[00:17:33] because it's difficult to determine, eh, from outside to establish.
[00:17:38] Quantities, even, to know which women do it out of obligation and which
[00:17:42] do not. In fact, the 2013 Supreme Court ruling, after the City Council
[00:17:46] tried to regulate also via regulations, not via
[00:17:49] ordinance, in 2010 the same
[00:17:52] issue focused perhaps in a different way, from encroaching
[00:17:56] on the right to religious freedom, it already
[00:17:59] said that it could not be determined, that ruling said it, it said that it could not
[00:18:02] be determined if these women who wore the full veil, the Niqab or the
[00:18:06] Burqa did so out of obligation,
[00:18:09] and the danger there was, regarding your question, the Supreme Court ruling also said
[00:18:13] if this could cause the perverse effect of
[00:18:17] cloistering, it used this word, cloistering,
[00:18:19] eh, therefore this debate is very complex, what I find difficult
[00:18:22] to understand and perhaps, eh, well, it is
[00:18:26] that some parameters have escaped us, but I find it difficult to understand that entering
[00:18:30] this specific agenda that we are talking about today, the Lleida City Council and the burqa and the
[00:18:33] niqab, eh,
[00:18:36] provides some kind of benefit to those political formations
[00:18:40] that legitimately believe that they can regulate
[00:18:44] from the parameter of coexistence,
[00:18:47] civility, their city, that is, those formations that have
[00:18:50] all of them categorized as eh, obviously, eh,
[00:18:54] democratic, why do they opt for this political agenda? Because it is
[00:18:58] evident that today the PSC government, with the support it has
[00:19:01] had, intended this to be news and in
[00:19:05] recent months knew that this... would be news, I find it difficult to see the
[00:19:09] political benefit of buying a certain agenda, why?
[00:19:12] Well, because we know who can benefit from this
[00:19:16] debate, a debate that can be approached in a thoughtful way or in a
[00:19:19] rude way, in a rude way there are more extremist political options that
[00:19:23] can use it in a very simple way, in fact
[00:19:27] these same parties what they do is raise the flag of a false
[00:19:31] feminism, of an identitarian feminism to oppose
[00:19:35] Islamophobia, to use the path. Islamophobia, that is, when you
[00:19:39] say no, no, we are against these
[00:19:41] options, eh, of Islam that what they do is treat
[00:19:45] in a way, well, eh, as if the
[00:19:48] Muslim woman did not have rights, eh,
[00:19:51] so that's the flag of feminism when you are not a party that has a clear feminist agenda, in
[00:19:55] fact you fight it, you fight gender policies,
[00:19:58] eh, precisely, no, well this is the danger, that
[00:20:02] the agenda that we all buy is an agenda that is not the one that suits us,
[00:20:06] I think. By the way, no one from the city council wanted to attend
[00:20:10] the media to explain the reason for this prohibition, eh, let
[00:20:13] me say it because we have offered the possibility, eh, to the city council that
[00:20:17] they could explain why.
[00:20:21] It makes me very uncomfortable to talk about this topic
[00:20:25] because it's not what Joan says, I can
[00:20:28] attest, eh, because it suits us, this agenda suits
[00:20:32] the matter is, if we have to talk about this topic, perhaps we have to
[00:20:36] be
[00:20:40] dir,
[00:20:42] the burqa and the niqab are an instrument of
[00:20:45] subjugation of women,
[00:20:48] we must ask ourselves. Is the answer
[00:20:52] yes?
[00:20:55] The burqa and the niqab create a context that
[00:20:59] legitimizes eh a
[00:21:01] climate of oppression towards women,
[00:21:04] yes, the burqa and the niqab, like, for
[00:21:07] example, the Muslim girl who at
[00:21:11] nine years old is taken out of gymnastics class or from the
[00:21:14] pool and then will not go to university,
[00:21:18] just because she is a woman. Are we giving all the
[00:21:22] guarantees to this woman who is also a
[00:21:24] woman? All this is important, therefore
[00:21:28] I believe that the debate of whether we are in favor or against prohibiting
[00:21:32] the niqab, for me, is that everyone should be against the
[00:21:35] niqab and the burqa because you are that is to say, you are
[00:21:39] taking for granted that
[00:21:43] eh they don't think because they are Muslim eh
[00:21:46] that is, they cannot make their own decisions because they are Muslim?
[00:21:50] Because they are women, because they are Muslim women, I ask, eh, I say this because a tweet by Manuel Delgado
[00:21:54] on the matter today made me think a lot about eh when
[00:21:57] we start to prohibit eh certain things
[00:22:01] from other cultures that from here we see
[00:22:05] well and
[00:22:08] as the dear David Fernández says and if it bothers us that there are
[00:22:12] niqabs or burqas as we said
[00:22:14] before walking along Passeig de Gràcia the luxury boutiques
[00:22:18] this also bothers.
[00:22:26] That is, because I have seen burqas and
[00:22:29] niqabs on Passeig de Gràcia with ladies who
[00:22:33] are not one, four, five, six, who are
[00:22:36] shopping in the middle of Passeig de Gràcia, this seems fantastic to me, nobody
[00:22:40] here feels grateful, no, Passeig de Gràcia also bothers me, that is,
[00:22:44] I don't like it, I like it,
[00:22:47] probably, look, probably if
[00:22:50] you and I had been born
[00:22:53] in Afghanistan, we would have a 90% chance of wearing a
[00:22:56] burqa. So, what is the cultural,
[00:23:00] family conditioning of an entire society so that this woman really
[00:23:04] decides, well, I don't know, but I think
[00:23:07] I lean more towards
[00:23:10] obviously a cultural tradition, a
[00:23:13] religious tradition, a family tradition, a
[00:23:16] state, a criminal tradition, it's that clear, isn't it?
[00:23:27] That is, clitoral mutilation,
[00:23:30] it was done 40 years ago and nothing happened here until
[00:23:33] it was legislated and treated as a crime because this
[00:23:37] happened. Mutilation
[00:23:40] of girls, of girls, well, this happened
[00:23:44] because in Africa there are areas where it is well seen.
[00:23:47] Well, look, if we travel anywhere,
[00:23:51] women, especially if we have to enter a mosque, we have to
[00:23:55] cover ourselves, not with a burqa, but we have to cover ourselves, we have to comply with rules, well, I believe
[00:23:59] that here, yes, I believe that here we are to comply with rules, it is no longer about
[00:24:02] feminism or not, I think that these women are in an outfit that is a
[00:24:06] prison, a prison, and then if there are so few because
[00:24:09] it is true that there are few because and in Morocco there is no
[00:24:13] burqa, one thing is the Islamic veil and another thing is the burqa that only shows
[00:24:16] the eyes and with the eyes sometimes there is a grille. It is, it is that
[00:24:20] it is scary, it is scary, you see a woman like that, it is scary, I also tell you, it is
[00:24:24] not a security issue, eh, because the Mossos, the Mossos have
[00:24:28] no problem telling that woman: no, no, listen, you have to
[00:24:31] take that off, you will have to take it off, you know, because
[00:24:34] first, first is security above all, that is, here, here we do not
[00:24:38] enter into a debate if there is more security or
[00:24:41] less security, we enter into the debate in public spaces, the debate
[00:24:45] in Lleida must be focused from security, it
[00:24:48] is so.
[00:24:58] they are few, these few I understand that social
[00:25:01] services, I say it, I say it from the point of view that the
[00:25:05] city council does it, I say it critically, because when the city council
[00:25:08] integrates it into a civility and coexistence ordinance, it must
[00:25:11] approach it from a point of view that this law goes, I prefer
[00:25:15] coexistence, well, I think it is beyond doubt on this table
[00:25:19] what we prefer, right? Ah, let me quote Manuel Delgado's
[00:25:23] tweet well, he said it made me think, eh, at least he said how
[00:25:26] can one know if a woman wears the burqa out of imposition or out of her
[00:25:29] convictions, Muslim women think, if it is
[00:25:33] said that they don't think it is because they are Muslim or
[00:26:37] cinematic phenomenon, which is the black ball of the Abys,
[00:26:41] a multi-award-winning film,
[00:26:43] eh, it can reach the Oscars, eh, it can make history, eh, we have invited
[00:26:47] the film critic who is also a producer for Mesnit, so
[00:26:51] it's Aleix Sales, we had it easy today, Aleix, good evening, good
[00:26:54] evening, because you were one of the lucky ones who on Monday could already sneak into this press
[00:26:58] pass, yes, eh, eh, in Barcelona, the cinemas.
[00:27:06] Well, let's see, eh, it's a movie that has also generated
[00:27:10] a certain disparity of opinions, but the objective that you will perhaps see more
[00:27:13] written or hear more is monumental because it is a
[00:27:17] very ambitious film, at a
[00:27:19] narrative level, the Abys are growing more and more with their
[00:27:23] projects m
[00:27:26] also that the viewer has very much in mind
[00:27:29] and it is a film that can easily reach
[00:27:33] any type of audience, okay, eh, the hype that there has been and that there is and
[00:27:37] that this film has generated before it reaches the cinemas is justified,
[00:27:40] would you say? well, look, all, all hype
[00:27:44] comes from some reason and of course it all started with it being the second
[00:27:47] film by the Abys that directly entered the official section of
[00:27:51] Cannes and so it already starts to generate a buzz and
[00:27:54] of course you come out of there with a prize, then you
[00:27:57] present it at various festivals and you get the audience award in Toronto
[00:28:01] which is something. quite difficult to win, so of course, it's
[00:28:05] normal for it to generate hype, but really the film has enough
[00:28:09] values to correspond to this expectation,
[00:28:12] ah ah, we have, the producers are very cinephiles at Mesnit, we have Marta Gérez
[00:28:16] also who told me the other day that she had the feeling that
[00:28:20] this film, at a time when society is so
[00:28:23] polarized, this film eh we would see
[00:28:26] how it is politically vindicated, do you think that will happen? I think
[00:28:30] so, that really eh...
[00:28:33] eh, whether for one side or the other, something will happen because it is a
[00:28:36] film that everyone will talk about these days and I think that next
[00:28:40] week in the Congress of Deputies someone will make some mention of Lorca,
[00:28:44] the black ball or all these oppressed
[00:28:47] identities ehm over the decades, the
[00:28:50] soundtrack, be careful, be careful, I'm telling you because its
[00:28:54] creator eh is already listening to you, look, it's not because I have him here next to me but
[00:28:58] really really yes
[00:29:02] eh... it's a soundtrack that integrates perfectly with the film
[00:29:05] and really
[00:29:07] ehm what it does is also perhaps where the Abys perhaps
[00:29:11] overdo it a little, the soundtrack tempers it a little
[00:29:15] no eh it balances the tone
[00:29:19] of the chords sometimes they can overload it, the music
[00:29:22] makes it so that it doesn't go to this point, well, yes, it brings
[00:29:26] everything to its point and that makes the whole thing go better
[00:29:29] and flow more and we may have to talk more
[00:29:41] but eh does it reach the Oscars? would you put your hand in the fire? look, you can't
[00:29:44] ever put your hand in the fire with these things because sometimes eh something
[00:29:48] strange can happen, there can be a mistake in the campaign, I don't know, the Javits can say something
[00:29:52] barbaric and get cancelled but even so everything
[00:29:56] indicates that it will reach the Oscars and in more than one category
[00:30:00] and about the figure of Lorca in the film. what predominates,
[00:30:04] the orca predominates because the orca eh, the orca
[00:30:07] victim, the orca is is its end, but in his life
[00:30:11] Lorca in that era poets were like rock and roll stars and
[00:30:15] Lorca was the most rock and roll star of
[00:30:18] was a person very far,
[00:30:21] let's say, from any victimism, perhaps it's not so much Lorca but
[00:30:25] the legacy that Lorca leaves, what prevails is that it's not an
[00:30:29] Arlorca film, in fact the Cabis initially defined it as the...
[00:30:35] but as Marina commented, it is a film that talks about the
[00:30:39] legacy of Lorca, either through his work, the people
[00:30:43] who knew him, also about
[00:30:46] his figure, what it has meant for future generations, for all the
[00:30:49] identities that have been discriminated against for
[00:30:52] so many reasons that have made them see Aleix Sales, thank you, a
[00:30:55] pleasure, eh, go and test this
[00:30:59] soundtrack.