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[00:00:00] their networks and the digital environments you identify, you can see where
[00:00:03] you're going, from the official profile of the PP that is already seeing that it was already going to
[00:00:07] point out a responsibility of the government,
[00:00:10] uh, until the others reminding you that Minister
[00:00:14] Puente, a week ago, was on late-night shows
[00:00:17] laughing and joking about
[00:00:20] casual, nine months after the trains, about being a person who is very active on Twitter, eh, and
[00:00:23] all this by itself would not
[00:00:26] some key pieces from the be a problem if what happened had not happened, that is, you can understand that there is
[00:00:29] a minister who has this shock-like,
[00:00:33] the Minister of Transport, Óscar polemicist, uh, showman, etcetera, if things
[00:00:36] were going well, but a tragedy of these characteristics happens, and the logical thing is
[00:00:40] that you ask politicians why they are there if, at the highest level, they do not
[00:00:44] have to respond to a situation
[00:00:47] and 250 more members of like this, two, that the opposition goes directly to him because if the head fell or if they cut off the political
[00:00:50] head of a minister like Puente, the thing is that it would mean much more,
[00:00:55] the trains of the and even more so in a campaign context, I believe that this, this context, the
[00:00:58] obvious wear and tear will have it. The government, uh, as any other government would have it,
[00:01:02] it's normal, people, when there's a tragedy like this, look at who
[00:01:05] governs. One part of the secret of all this will be the adversaries'
[00:01:09] animosity, I believe that
[00:01:11] nothing to do with it, eh, as this, mm, it's not necessary, Feijóo already pointed
[00:01:13] where things are going, that is, it's not necessary for him to be acrimonious, he simply has to
[00:01:17] try to project that this would be how things would go. I believe that there will be, I believe that
[00:01:20] there will obviously be something of these characteristics
[00:01:23] Professor Rodon, on the other hand, beyond entails, entails political wear and tear, right? In fact, yesterday,
[00:01:27] for example, the communication team of President Sánchez was already at
[00:01:31] the, uh, press conference of the, of the, of Minister
[00:01:35] Puente, that is, it was surely a communicatively very different
[00:01:38] action than the one that was done with Ademús at his, at his, at his
[00:01:42] time because even the chief of staff of President
[00:01:45] Sánchez was behind the minister, right? Therefore,
[00:01:48] it is, it is obvious that it is obvious that this breaks, let's say,
[00:01:52] the narrative, let's say, if you want, more cheerful,
[00:01:55] positive, let's say, of the message of Pedro, of Pedro
[00:01:59] Sánchez. The dancing, let's say, is over, or
[00:02:02] it's difficult to maintain, let's say, this, this, this
[00:02:05] thesis. Now, I would also point out another point, the great
[00:02:08] beneficiary of something of these characteristics if it's not
[00:02:13] points we have set up in both managed well is Vox, not the PP, attention, the question I wanted to ask the Tonis
[00:02:17] is this, that is, can we intuit what the Tonis' strategy
[00:02:21] will be? I mean,
[00:02:22] shooting inside Aivox was the only one that did not
[00:02:26] suspend campaign events, yes, I believe that the strategy that will be followed
[00:02:30] for the campaign, both Vox and I believe that the Popular Party will join in quite a bit, will be to
[00:02:33] attack the Spanish government and try to wear it down starting from this accident. Vox was
[00:02:37] very clear yesterday, in fact, even Abascal said we don't believe anything
[00:02:41] the Spanish government says, I mean,
[00:02:44] eh, placing at the front or as fueling this anti-politics. I believe that with the message from the Popular Party's networks from
[00:02:48] Javient, there was this desire to point out the government, therefore,
[00:02:51] this, this forces a rethinking of the campaign on the part of
[00:02:55] the left, this is the question for the Tonis, the question for the Tonis
[00:02:58] is, uhm, since love and joy, the
[00:03:02] dancing will surely no longer work, and therefore, that love must always be maintained
[00:03:05] above, no, yes, but I mean that all this thing about explaining love and
[00:03:09] joy, dancing against hatred, surely remains absolutely
[00:03:13] outside the campaign framework now, in what way will the left have to
[00:03:16] rethink the campaign after this
[00:03:18] accident?
[00:03:21] Yes, the left has it very complicated because a part of electoral
[00:03:25] campaigns is about setting a certain mood and it is obvious that Pedro
[00:03:28] Sánchez was setting a good tone for the campaign with the perspective, I'm not saying of the
[00:03:32] comeback, but of a positive outlook, and now, uh,
[00:03:36] you are forced to at least three days of mourning and then to control a lot the
[00:03:39] reaction from the right, I believe, let's see, Antoni, if, if he agrees, but
[00:03:43] uh, the right has an important mm opportunity
[00:03:46] because the far right acts as the far right, it's, in the end, for the Vox voter that
[00:03:50] Vox breaks the mourning, all that doesn't matter to them at all, for them
[00:03:54] Pedro Sánchez is the culprit of everything, of everything in the world, of
[00:03:57] everything bad that exists, and therefore, the
[00:04:00] main Vox voter who already likes this, this
[00:04:03] position of bluntness and harshness against him, he is directly the culprit of these deaths,
[00:04:07] and the PP, if they know how to do it well, even though Feijóo usually misses
[00:04:11] many opportunities in campaigns, but this would be mm
[00:04:14] unprecedented, eh, they can take a central trunk of management, of a man
[00:04:18] of state, of saying with us this will not happen, it will end, therefore they have a
[00:04:22] good opportunity ahead, they just need to know how to take advantage of it and that the others don't know how to react, Professor
[00:04:26] Rodón,
[00:04:28] yes, no, I'm not, I'm with what my colleague Toni
[00:04:32] commented, uhm, about the negative
[00:04:35] effect or not for the government, it obviously depends on many factors, on the proximity of the
[00:04:39] elections, on the emotional management that the government makes, on whether there is a firebreak
[00:04:43] through, for example, a potential resignation of Minister Óscar
[00:04:46] Puente, but we do know from the research
[00:04:49] we go, as you said, to the scene of done, you don't rule it out, eh, I have you don't rule out that there will be a resignation of
[00:04:53] Puente in the coming days, or a resignation that takes him out of the game, that he doesn't
[00:04:56] appear.
[00:05:01] I mean, that, that, that, well, I mean, there's another derivative, which is this
[00:05:05] too. Say, say, Rodón, and then he can make a, a, a
[00:05:08] resignation, a deferred resignation, or some type of, of
[00:05:12] action like that, eh, but in any case, from the research we have,
[00:05:16] it is difficult for governments to escape these accidents, eh. For example, uhm, in
[00:05:20] Greece there was an accident in 2023, a railway
[00:05:23] one too, at the time, the governing party, New Democracy, fell one
[00:05:26] percentage point at least in the affected areas. In
[00:05:29] Mexico, in 2021, there was an accident on metro line 12 that
[00:05:33] killed 12 people. From then on, eh, the, the
[00:05:37] government, the governing party, eh, lost between five
[00:05:40] and 12 percentage points in all the affected areas. In Buenos Aires in
[00:05:44] 2012, eh, also another railway accident, 51 dead and
[00:05:48] 700 injured, eh, which put, according to the studies we
[00:05:51] have, an end to the honeymoon between Kirchnerism and Cristina
[00:05:55] Fernández. Or, eh, we can also talk about, because it's similar even if it's not
[00:05:59] the same, a ferry accident in Seoul, a, a ship that
[00:06:02] sank in 2014 that also caused these deaths, unfortunately,
[00:06:06] also, well, a governmental punishment. Therefore,
[00:06:10] eh, no matter how much the governments, eh,
[00:06:13] try, especially when these accidents happen very close to elections,
[00:06:17] it is very difficult to try to convince voters that they have nothing, nothing to
[00:06:20] do with it, because even if you have
[00:06:24] responsible for the management, well, people identify you as such and therefore
[00:06:27] they blame you. I have to tell our
[00:06:30] audience that if Professor Rodon has all this in his head, it's because he has researched studies that
[00:06:34] analyze precisely the impact of accidents in railway transport
[00:06:37] uhm in, in the entire political spectrum, and that's why he has all
[00:06:41] these facts in his head. He knows them, and that's why we invited him today too, eh. Meanwhile,
[00:06:45] uhm, I just want to make a comment on what Toni
[00:06:49] was saying about this case, uhm, which is
[00:06:52] the issue of how each of the
[00:06:55] actors will behave from now on, no? Eh, obviously
[00:06:59] Pedro Sánchez has to change the narrative of the
[00:07:02] campaign, uhm, I would not rule out that he knows
[00:07:06] how to do it and does it well, let's say, no? Uhm,
[00:07:09] and the tone, I am very concerned
[00:07:12] about the PP's tone because
[00:07:16] their, their dynamic for
[00:07:19] a year now is practically
[00:07:22] doing the same as Vox, that's why here they can differentiate, well, if
[00:07:26] they do, it will probably be well used. Yesterday's
[00:07:30] start, so to speak, of Mr. Feijóo seemed very
[00:07:33] correct to me, eh, but the networks were already running in another
[00:07:37] direction, no, if he does the same as
[00:07:40] Vox, Vox will come out
[00:07:43] ahead. Mm, Manel, yes, I, I believe that unfortunately
[00:07:47] for the PSOE, what has been manifested, what has been materialized, is a strategic
[00:07:51] error that had been there for quite some time, that is,
[00:07:56] political head a ministry that
[00:08:00] has a basic infrastructure like the railway that has not been working for a long
[00:08:04] time, the most activist
[00:08:06] minister, eh, politically speaking, of the
[00:08:10] government, was a
[00:08:12] very contradictory, unsustainable situation. From Adamuz, it was
[00:08:16] playing with fire, in the end they got burned, no, eh, it will be
[00:08:20] very difficult for the minister to separate a good
[00:08:23] management uhm
[00:08:27] eh from the character, uhm,
[00:08:29] effectively
[00:08:32] from the character, so I believe that here the
[00:08:35] PSOE faces a dilemma, a
[00:08:39] practically insoluble dilemma.
[00:08:42] If he makes him resign or removes him, as
[00:08:45] Toni said, it is
[00:08:49] an explicit recognition of a very serious management error,
[00:08:52] and if he keeps him, he maintains the wear and tear, which is inevitable,
[00:08:56] because he was the responsible manager, and
[00:08:59] everyone will remember that he was sending tweets when, in reality, what
[00:09:03] the public asks of a manager or official of this type is
[00:09:07] discretion, humility, dedication
[00:09:10] to management, to fixing problems. He has not offered
[00:09:13] this image, so it is an insoluble problem that determines, I believe, that
[00:09:17] determines the axis of the campaign, eh, and
[00:09:20] well, I believe that it is, eh, well,
[00:09:24] it is not good for the PSOE definitively, no.
[00:09:28] Uhm, ten past nine, let's go to the newsroom of "Els Matins," Professor Rodon,
[00:09:31] I'll keep him on the line and we'll continue with this
[00:09:34] issue, there are others also from the
[00:09:50] and we are following everything that is happening, I was saying that with Professor Rodon, we will also ask him about
[00:09:54] the call for blockades this weekend, eh, eh, we'll get to it right away, right away,
[00:09:58] Oscar, so yes,
[00:10:01] yesterday's accident in Los Yébenes, in Toledo, Pera
[00:10:05] Bosch, good morning, more than 24 hours after the accident, the emergency
[00:10:08] teams continue working to see if there are any victims
[00:10:12] still trapped. For now, Pera, the balance is 68 dead. A short
[00:10:16] while ago, there was a communication from the Civil Guard, what did
[00:10:19] they say?
[00:10:22] Yes, Oscar, the, uh, operations that have been carried out here during the
[00:10:26] night have been updated, with more than 800 emergency personnel who are, in
[00:10:29] fact, the only ones allowed to enter the disaster
[00:10:33] zone. This entire area is cordoned off,
[00:10:36] practically sealed off by order of the instructing judge of Orgaz
[00:10:40] who has taken over the investigation of this case. She has asked, eh, it's not
[00:10:45] the Ademús accident and the controversy that arose because Dif personnel extracted
[00:10:51] investigation. She has ordered that this area be completely sealed off and, for
[00:10:54] example, yesterday, she did not allow
[00:10:58] Puente, to access the accident site when he came to this point
[00:11:01] yesterday afternoon. Here, more than
[00:11:05] 400 Civil Guard members are already working, also performing
[00:11:08] judicial police functions,
[00:11:12] the Military Emergency Unit have been working all night to try
[00:11:15] to extract the remains that remain, eh, from this
[00:11:19] railway accident. We have been able to appreciate this morning how one
[00:11:23] of the AB train cars impacted to such an extent that it
[00:11:27] entered directly inside, eh, it was completely
[00:11:29] embedded inside one of the Irio train cars, therefore
[00:11:33] it left it completely destroyed. Here, manual work is being done in many
[00:11:37] moments to remove this scrap metal, also obviously to try
[00:11:40] to search if there are still, eh, bodies trapped inside. In this
[00:11:44] regard, the Civil Guard spokesperson explained to us that identification
[00:11:47] points have been set up in the municipalities of Madrid,
[00:11:51] in Toledo, and also in Seville so that family members who have
[00:11:55] missing people can access these points, provide
[00:11:58] DNA samples, and that this can be, eh,
[00:12:01] cross-referenced with, eh, the remains that are being found in
[00:12:05] these two damaged trains and identify
[00:12:08] the people who are still listed as
[00:12:11] missing. This was a press conference that was held a few minutes ago with great media
[00:12:15] attention because here we can count more than 100-150 members
[00:12:18] of media from all over the world who are following with great
[00:12:22] expectation everything that is happening here, more than
[00:12:33] of the first degree who has a disappeared person, please go to the
[00:12:38] the Córdoba Command and the Toledo Command in the Madrid area
[00:12:42] and in the Seville area in Andalusia
[00:12:45] so that they can go and have a DNA sample taken, and thus
[00:12:49] cross-reference it with the missing
[00:12:51] person.
[00:12:54] Statements by. a very short while ago from the Civil Guard, meanwhile, from the
[00:12:57] UGT, the spokesperson for the train drivers in Catalonia, Francisco Cardenas, has
[00:13:01] said that it is necessary to know the entire recording of the conversations between the Dif
[00:13:05] control center and the train drivers to know exactly
[00:13:08] what happened. In his opinion, the fragments leaked
[00:13:12] yesterday only give a partial picture.
[00:13:36] pending the impact of the train drivers' strike called today
[00:13:40] by the SEMAF union. Now we have
[00:13:43] passed rush hour, let's go to Sants station, Judit
[00:13:47] Estrada, good morning, what is the situation here, are the minimum
[00:13:50] services still
[00:13:51] operating?
[00:13:55] Well, yes, in principle, yes, as you said, rush hour is over now,
[00:13:58] it ended at 9:30 in the morning and now only one out of
[00:14:01] every three trains is running. According to Renfe,
[00:14:05] in all this time, until 9:30 in the morning, there had only been
[00:14:08] five cancellations of trains, of the minimum
[00:14:12] services. According to users, today the strike is actually
[00:14:16] having little effect, ah, much less people are seen
[00:14:20] than usual and even on the screens that announce
[00:14:23] the trains, no, no delays are seen. However, users
[00:14:27] have told us that they have experienced some delays of between 20
[00:14:30] and 30 minutes, in fact Renfe, therefore confirms that it can be said that
[00:14:34] the minimum services are operating normally. We have found two types
[00:14:37] of very different users, those from suburban trains, those who experience
[00:14:41] daily incidents and delays of trains, these were much more
[00:14:45] resigned, and then we have found the, eh, tourist people,
[00:14:48] even people who are using
[00:14:52] these people received a message yesterday informing
[00:14:55] them of this strike by the SEMAF train drivers and
[00:14:59] offering them another train if they wanted to
[00:15:02] change it in case their train was affected by
[00:15:05] the strike. In any case, it can be said that here at Sants
[00:15:09] station this strike is barely being
[00:15:12] noticed.
[00:15:15] Well, I took the regional train to Girona and
[00:15:19] apparently it was full. They sent me an email yesterday
[00:15:22] saying that I had to go through
[00:15:25] the cuts, that there was no problem, but I came
[00:15:28] to make sure. They told me that there is no delay at the moment. I don't
[00:15:31] know about the strike, I have to go to
[00:15:34] work, I had to do my highlights because... I have
[00:15:37] time and I have a justification, but only a few hours, I only have a few hours
[00:15:41] to go and come back, and if I exceed the hours, I will have to
[00:15:44] make them up, they will deduct them,
[00:15:48] so it's a mess and we always pay the
[00:15:51] same ones who are not to blame, who already pay with a strike, but my
[00:15:54] trains are fine, so far so good, then to go back to Mataró,
[00:15:57] who knows.
[00:15:59] A train drivers' strike that, for the moment, as we said, is not very noticeable at Sants
[00:16:03] station. Let's go, however, to another point of the railway
[00:16:06] network. We are now live in Sant Vicenç de
[00:16:10] Caldés, Ana Rius is there, Ana, good morning, what is the
[00:16:13] situation here, is it also barely
[00:16:15] noticeable?
[00:16:19] Well, yes, here we could say that there is a normality wrapped
[00:16:22] in the already normal irregularity,
[00:16:26] eh, here on the public address system, constantly, it is announced that
[00:16:30] this train drivers' strike has occurred,
[00:16:33] R2 South and Regional South,
[00:16:36] well, they have a delay of 20 minutes, which means
[00:16:40] that some arrive more than an hour late and others just over
[00:16:44] 10 minutes. The users informed,
[00:16:46] most of them already knew and did not approach this
[00:16:50] railway hub of Sant Vicenç de Caldés. Those who did
[00:16:53] were surprised to see such empty platforms,
[00:16:57] to also see that the minimum services, even with
[00:17:00] delays, work with certain
[00:17:03] punctuality.
[00:17:05] Looking at the app, I saw that several trains, eh, were no longer
[00:17:09] running or were very delayed, so I had to come early
[00:17:12] to catch the first train I could find, that at 6 in the
[00:17:16] morning I already listened to the radio to see how it was because yesterday I
[00:17:20] went to bed and already heard something was not right
[00:17:24] and so in the morning it was clear there is a train drivers' strike for
[00:17:27] suburban lines starting from 66%
[00:17:31] for the first hour and then
[00:17:33] 33%.
[00:17:36] The police. The shooting death of a man this morning at
[00:17:40] Joan 23 Hospital in Tarragona, where he was
[00:17:43] admitted. We are going straight there to Tarragona.
[00:17:46] Lúria Sabater, good morning, what do we know about what
[00:17:48] happened?
[00:17:53] What we know is that a few minutes after 3 in the morning, the Mossos
[00:17:56] d'Esquadra received a report of a
[00:18:00] Joan 23 Hospital in Tarragona. A man entered
[00:18:03] armed, shot a patient who was seriously injured and ended up dying.
[00:18:07] The Mossos d'Esquadra have confirmed several pieces of information that appeared in
[00:18:11] the media this morning, which is that after they were called, they quickly
[00:18:14] arrived here, in fact they have a police station here just
[00:18:18] 30 meters from the hospital, and one of the protocols they activated
[00:18:21] was the Gàvia operation, which is an operation that tries to seal off the
[00:18:25] city to try to find this presumed assassin, but at the moment
[00:18:29] there are no arrests. In principle, the shot patient
[00:18:32] would be a man who was already shot in Salou about fifteen
[00:18:36] days ago, he would be a patient, a man who had
[00:18:40] to do with a fight or with a revenge between gangs, from what
[00:18:44] we have been able to find out, some workers have told us that this patient,
[00:18:47] who already came from this revenge between gangs, had police
[00:18:51] custody while he was in the intensive care unit at the ICU, but now
[00:18:55] on the ward he did not have police custody, so it will have to be seen what
[00:18:59] could have happened. This person also, eh, from what they have
[00:19:02] told us, well, he ended up dying after this
[00:19:05] shooting. This incident raises alarms, as is normal, among
[00:19:09] the workers of Joan 23 Hospital, we have been able
[00:19:12] to speak with union sources who explained to us that it is not easy
[00:19:16] to access the hospital, that there are controls to access it, but it must be seen
[00:19:19] why an armed person was able to enter the hospital at 3 in the morning.
[00:19:23] These union sources also commented to us that they want
[00:19:27] to, eh, investigate how this may affect the safety of
[00:19:30] their workers. Today, no, eh, worker has
[00:19:34] been injured, but they want to know what can be done
[00:19:37] to improve the safety of the workers, and in fact,
[00:19:41] today the SEM, the medical emergency service, has
[00:19:44] activated a psychological support service for all the workers who
[00:19:48] experienced this situation this
[00:24:10] 10:23 news from this morning in Valencia, the police have arrested
[00:24:14] a child, no, not a child, a 17-year-old minor, a 17-year-old
[00:24:17] minor, creator of the Blocus channel. BLC Blocus
[00:24:21] Valencia is the alleged perpetrator of several crimes including conspiracy to
[00:24:24] commit public disorder. They say that this young man gave orders and instructions to
[00:24:28] the rest of the components of this group on social networks,
[00:24:31] the Blocus Valencia channel. The minors' prosecutor's office has already ordered his internment in
[00:24:35] a juvenile justice center as a precautionary measure. This
[00:24:39] today, today Thursday, the center of Vic, the capital of Osona,
[00:24:42] is sealed off this morning due to two calls, Cristina
[00:24:45] Messías, one from students that was communicated and the other that circulated through
[00:24:49] social networks, and the Mossos have deployed a large
[00:24:52] police presence. What can Cristina Messías tell
[00:24:55] us?
[00:24:58] Exactly, good morning, Arian, what I can tell you is that Vic woke up with a strong police
[00:25:02] deployment, as you said, unprecedented, say traders and residents, with
[00:25:06] vans strategically placed in the most commercial streets and
[00:25:09] centrically also with dispersed agents and uniformed
[00:25:13] throughout the city, I start as you said, of these two calls there
[00:25:17] is one that is a strike and a demonstration. from
[00:25:20] the institutes of Osona, this is communicated, in fact they made them change
[00:25:24] the route so it doesn't pass through the city center, but there is also another one
[00:25:28] that was circulating on social media that incited riots imitating those in Paris
[00:25:31] and Barcelona, and therefore the consequence is this
[00:25:34] shop windows, especially those of Inditex, totally
[00:25:38] covered with wood and they say that this morning they will open in the afternoon,
[00:25:42] in principle yes, what the merchants of Vic told us is that in general
[00:25:45] they are small and do not have the resources to keep covering and uncovering
[00:25:48] operators.
[00:25:51] The commerce in Vic is small, so it doesn't have the tools
[00:25:55] to have wood for all the shop windows, the doors and everything.
[00:25:58] We have the security that nothing will happen, hopefully not, but to protect ourselves.
[00:26:03] Since we don't know how things will go, it's better to prevent, isn't it?
[00:26:07] There are shops that are prepared because they have grilles outside,
[00:26:10] in our case we don't have all glass, we have an internal grille
[00:26:14] and from Saturday until now we haven't had much time to prepare,
[00:26:18] Vic is big but it's small, the streets are narrow, they are not very
[00:26:22] open places
[00:26:25] where there can be many riots and I think people
[00:26:29] here realize this.
[00:26:34] They also explain to us, Ariana, that schools and institutes have done pedagogy,
[00:26:38] that is, they have informed high school students, third and
[00:26:42] fourth year of baccalaureate that they can join the strike, but that they must always behave
[00:26:46] with civility, there are also schools located in the city center
[00:26:49] and these have taken many precautions so that they do not receive the
[00:26:53] disturbances.
[00:26:55] The older students, during recess, have
[00:26:59] the authorized right to be able to go out into the city and... let's say that what
[00:27:03] we asked is that it was highly recommended that today we all stay inside, uh,
[00:27:07] we will all have breakfast together simply for prevention and so that
[00:27:10] they don't also find themselves in situations that perhaps they don't want, the shutters are not
[00:27:14] opened today, because if any case arises where we would have to
[00:27:18] confine ourselves, then inside the center we could make a
[00:27:21] perimeter closure, eh, quickly.
[00:27:26] the impact that this electoral pre-campaign can have, yesterday's accident
[00:27:29] in Toledo, a railway
[00:27:32] accident, eh, what is happening with these
[00:27:35] calls, what impact can
[00:27:37] it have?
[00:27:40] Well, right now it's a mystery, Anna, because these
[00:27:44] types of protests are not very common in many, in many contexts, eh, they are
[00:27:47] protests that could be described as disorganized, unstructured and
[00:27:51] decentralized, normally when a protest is generated, eh, there
[00:27:55] is a certain political, economic, social claim behind
[00:27:59] it, with clear organizers, with a slogan. with
[00:28:02] a banner at the beginning, which can end up not with disorders and riots,
[00:28:06] but there are one or several objectives, in this case
[00:28:09] eh, many people define them as protests in which
[00:28:13] there is discomfort without without an object, yes, without
[00:28:16] a specific purpose, these protests tend to be
[00:28:20] of short duration and ehm,
[00:28:23] people in general when they occur tend
[00:28:26] to focus on the only and main element of the protest which are the riots
[00:28:30] and the damage to the cities.
[00:28:32] which puts an element on the table which is that of security,
[00:28:36] that is, the need for this not to happen, therefore, eh,
[00:28:40] here if we have to speculate, the question we have to ask ourselves is who benefits from this
[00:28:43] idea that we need more security, more police, more
[00:28:46] order, well normally they are the more conservative parties, this
[00:28:50] does not mean that it necessarily benefits the extreme right, eh, because from the
[00:28:54] studies we have it is not entirely clear, but it could be one of the
[00:28:57] scenarios, Professor Rodon, thank you, may the table go very well with one last idea.
[00:29:00] Regarding what David explained to me, my goodness,
[00:29:04] about the attention of this 17-year-old boy
[00:29:08] who is the creator of this Blocos channel, there are many people who are
[00:29:11] worried, which is normal, point number 1, because these circumstances
[00:29:14] may occur, eh, second, there will always be those who want to take advantage of it,
[00:29:18] eh, that's for sure, but also all the eh all the administrations
[00:29:22] have to respond, here we are seeing right and left and center whatever
[00:29:25] you want, they are getting firm, I
[00:29:29] think we will see on Saturday in the
[00:29:31] calls. that there is eh, if these
[00:29:34] calls also affect the
[00:29:37] accident yesterday, clearly, no, the risk is
[00:29:41] that this will tarnish or question other mobilizations in
[00:29:45] issues such as housing, for example, I am thinking about the general strike on the 11th, I think
[00:29:48] it is very important to distinguish protests with a political purpose from what
[00:29:52] we are seeing these days in the streets, even so I think that
[00:29:56] they manage to get many people to support them because there is real discomfort among a part of the
[00:29:59] population that is surely the product of a system that is
[00:30:05] Well, I think what's relevant is how this student
[00:30:08] movement is spreading across the country, which I think is
[00:30:11] a sign of a certain political vacuum, of a feeling
[00:30:14] that something is not right and that some kind of
[00:30:18] correction of usual politics needs to be made, I think the student movement
[00:30:21] reflects this and that there is this great unknown until
[00:30:25] we know who is behind these strange
[00:30:28] movements, eh, we have a gap to explain