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[00:00:00] the population that is surely a product of a system that is globally violent and that
[00:00:03] is not having, mhm,
[00:00:07] well, I think what is relevant is how this
[00:00:09] student movement is spreading throughout the country, which I think is a sign of a certain political
[00:00:13] void, of a feeling that something is not right and that some
[00:00:17] type of
[00:00:20] state will provide to the families of correction of the usual policy must be made. I think the student movement reflects this and that there is this
[00:00:24] great unknown. Until we know who is
[00:00:27] behind these strange movements, uh... we have a
[00:00:53] Good morning, at this hour work continues against the clock in Urda in the tasks of
[00:00:58] now, the Cinological Service of the removing the scrap metal from the trains that crashed yesterday. The worst railway tragedy of the high-speed train in the Spanish
[00:01:02] state with 68 fatalities
[00:01:05] at the moment, the relatives of the disappeared are being
[00:01:08] given DNA tests and in parallel a question hangs over the
[00:01:12] tragedy: a high-speed train that has
[00:01:14] which I also understand, and this is why traveled at 200 km/h for 17 minutes with a vast
[00:01:17] Irio and during these fateful minutes, an entire control center in Atocha does
[00:01:21] not realize it, and if it were so, is there no technological mechanism that
[00:01:25] can activate an automatic
[00:01:27] to inform the relatives braking system in the face of evidence of a human error? Questions that
[00:01:31] we will try to resolve today with the different technicians and engineers who will accompany us,
[00:01:34] meanwhile, let's look for the latest news in Toledo, Eduard
[00:01:37] Valles, what will happen today
[00:01:39] here?
[00:01:42] Well, what will begin here, good morning,
[00:01:45] both in the Civil Guard headquarters in Toledo and in Lena, is the identification of the bodies, a process
[00:01:48] that will not end today because as you can imagine, in some
[00:01:52] cases this identification will be very
[00:01:54] eh complicated. Here where we are, 52
[00:01:57] eh bodies have arrived from... the
[00:02:00] 68 confirmed fatalities, a figure that, as
[00:02:03] you said Elena, is not definitive and what we can say at this time is that the president of Castilla-La Mancha
[00:02:07] Emiliano García Paje is scheduled
[00:02:10] to appear this morning to update this
[00:02:14] eh figure, here at the Institute of Legal and Forensic Medicine
[00:02:18] a connection with the LZB, with in Toledo we see some relatives arrive from time to time
[00:02:22] who ask, but they quickly return to the Guardia Civil
[00:02:25] barracks, that's where they are waiting and that's where
[00:02:29] also... these DNA samples are collected to help
[00:02:33] identify the bodies, Elena, thank you Eduard, indeed, 24
[00:02:36] hours after the accident, the rescue teams continue working to find
[00:02:40] victims among the wreckage of the two high-speed trains. Pere
[00:02:44] Bosc, good morning.
[00:02:46] That's right, more than 800 members of the emergency services, led
[00:02:50] especially by the civil guard, the military emergency unit, have worked tirelessly
[00:02:54] all night here in the municipalities of Urda and Los Yebenes
[00:02:57] to locate in the first place. And there are still bodies
[00:03:01] trapped inside the remains of the
[00:03:04] the march at carriages of the high-speed and Iririo
[00:03:05] what it trains that crashed more than speed and that the driver obeyed the 24 hours ago, then
[00:03:08] work is also being
[00:03:11] high-speed train driver done to try to find clues to help explain what happened at the
[00:03:14] moment of such a violent impact, there are relatives of victims who are still
[00:03:17] approaching this point and are being redirected to the points where, as you
[00:03:21] explained, these DNA samples are being taken to try
[00:03:24] to identify the remains that have already been located, thank you Pera
[00:03:28] and by the way, today there is... a strike of train drivers called by the
[00:03:32] majority union, a strike that was already planned before yesterday's fatal train accident,
[00:03:35] among other issues, more coordination in communications is requested to
[00:03:39] precisely avoid situations of risk. Semanta Vall, are
[00:03:43] there many trains canceled at this
[00:03:44] hour?
[00:03:48] Good morning Elena, well, right now
[00:03:51] to do so because evidently since 9:30 there is a minimum service of 33%
[00:03:56] above all and that is what of the trains that circulate, this means that one out of every three trains pass, this means that there is a delay of between 20
[00:04:00] and 30 minutes and up to 50 minutes, the users we have spoken to have
[00:04:03] told us that this is not much different from what they usually have here in
[00:04:07] Rodaliers, here they say that everyone before taking a train should inform themselves through the
[00:04:10] appropriate channels to know what the delay is that
[00:04:14] these trains have at peak hours, this service will increase to
[00:04:17] 66%. And finally, we will say that at 12
[00:04:20] noon here there will be 5 minutes of silence for the fatal
[00:04:24] accident that everyone experienced
[00:04:25] yesterday.
[00:04:29] Thank you. Samantha, well, this is the latest news we are receiving from Sants
[00:04:33] station, more things that are coming to us that we will review with Sara shortly, but they
[00:04:38] state, eh, I also said it yesterday in tell me that the president of Castilla-La Mancha, Emiliano García Paje, is about to make
[00:04:40] statements, so let's go there and we can listen to him, Pedro
[00:04:44] circumstances, that everything that has happened Sánchez also tells me that he is next to Emiliano García Paje,
[00:04:47] possibly both can make statements at this time, we
[00:04:51] listen to them, eh, they still remain at
[00:04:54] different levels of
[00:04:57] concern, but with the news also. For
[00:05:00] us, positive, always with caution,
[00:05:03] that the four of the 15 in code red, the
[00:05:07] four that we foresaw with more seriousness, are
[00:05:11] evolving positively. So that, eh, we are
[00:05:14] somewhat more optimistic regarding their final result,
[00:05:17] we are more hopeful, eh, yesterday
[00:05:21] we
[00:05:24] experienced a catastrophe that, without
[00:05:28] a doubt, has
[00:05:30] produced a state of shock throughout Spain,
[00:05:32] you will understand, the services
[00:05:35] mobilized and coordinated by the emergency coordination
[00:05:39] in the Ministry of Public Administrations
[00:05:42] reached 1300
[00:05:44] personnel,
[00:05:47] only in health services, 150 land vehicles
[00:05:51] including ambulances, ICUs, basic life support
[00:05:55] and seven helicopters and seven
[00:05:57] helicopters, with the added fact that we were even able
[00:06:00] to perform up to eight blood transfusions in the
[00:06:04] same helicopter flight, which is really very
[00:06:08] satisfactory.
[00:06:10] The remaining process is identification under
[00:06:14] judicial authority and the forensic institute is for
[00:06:17] identification of the deceased, which
[00:06:21] follows its own very strict protocol, as everyone knows,
[00:06:27] we want to especially encourage the families who are waiting,
[00:06:31] that the law is being complied with strictly and
[00:06:34] rigorously, especially because throughout the night,
[00:06:37] in the work done by the firefighters, the
[00:06:41] military emergency unit, the technicians, in the work,
[00:06:45] more human remains have logically
[00:06:48] appeared, although,
[00:06:51] to put it in a way that can be understood, partial,
[00:06:54] no, and therefore there are
[00:06:57] accumulated accumulated, in addition to the
[00:07:00] bodies, human remains that have to
[00:07:03] be identified
[00:07:06] and designated, in short, the work
[00:07:10] that remains to be done today is movement
[00:07:12] of cranes, especially over the overturned
[00:07:15] carriage, we don't think there could
[00:07:19] be more fatalities under it, but
[00:07:23] I always say it with caution and we are also reasonably
[00:07:27] optimistic that the evolution of the
[00:07:30] patients will be in a positive direction, better, of course, than what
[00:07:34] we expected last night, all with the
[00:07:37] logical caution of the
[00:07:40] moment. I want, before giving the floor to the president,
[00:07:44] to convey my
[00:07:46] personal and very sincere gratitude
[00:07:51] to all the people who, on a personal basis,
[00:07:54] have been so supportive, starting with the absolute record of
[00:07:58] donations, I take this opportunity to tell people who
[00:08:02] are interested, and we really ask them to continue donating, to do so in the
[00:08:05] following days because of the expiry of platelets, which is five days, and therefore
[00:08:09] blood will continue to be needed. But blood has been donated in many places in Spain and
[00:08:13] particularly more than 2000 registered here in the healthcare
[00:08:16] area, I thank, of course, the
[00:08:20] healthcare services, the Infocan and Geacan operations
[00:08:23] of Castilla La Mancha, the Civil
[00:08:27] Guard, the UME, the police, to the
[00:08:30] well, of the total of 1300 personnel mobilized, the enormous
[00:08:34] coordination,
[00:08:37] the mobilization was not good or bad,
[00:08:40] it was not good or bad. Plainly, I believe it was
[00:08:44] as it should be, and that is what should
[00:08:48] remain. Now the most important thing is to also
[00:08:51] accompany the families of the
[00:08:54] deceased victims and the injured, as His Majesty the King will also do
[00:08:58] in the Toledo hospital late in the morning,
[00:09:03] what cannot be forgotten is that we are dealing with a human tragedy
[00:09:08] still remains for us to address from the
[00:09:12] public administrations, thank you very much,
[00:09:15] president.
[00:09:19] Well, no, no, that's fine, that's fine, thank you very much, president,
[00:09:23] and thank you, counselor, eh, I wanted
[00:09:26] first of all to thank the media for all the information they are giving
[00:09:29] to the Spanish citizens and particularly to the
[00:09:32] relatives of the victims, because, because indeed their work in
[00:09:36] situations eh of human
[00:09:40] tragedy, as President Emiliano García Paje has said, are
[00:09:43] fundamental. From the point
[00:09:46] of view of the general administration of the
[00:09:50] the appearance, I also thank this meeting of the
[00:09:53] Cecopi, the whole state is focused on the
[00:09:57] response
[00:09:59] first of all on the response to the
[00:10:02] emergency, to this human tragedy, eh
[00:10:05] to unfortunately, to remove
[00:10:09] the bodies that have been produced before. this
[00:10:12] fatality, before this catastrophe, of course,
[00:10:15] also in their identification, in the affiliation of the injured
[00:10:19] people, eh, in their medical
[00:10:21] assistance, secondly, eh, the... the
[00:10:25] knowledge and clarification of what caused this
[00:10:29] terrible railway accident, and finally,
[00:10:33] it will be a later
[00:10:35] point in what is the
[00:10:38] compensation, at least from a material point of view, that the
[00:10:42] general administration of the
[00:10:45] the victims of this terrible tragedy. From the
[00:10:48] general administration of the state, from the first moment, we launched the
[00:10:52] state general emergency plan
[00:10:55] for civil protection, mobilizing
[00:10:58] elements of the UME, the Civil Guard, the National Police, and
[00:11:02] of course, the entire civil protection system,
[00:11:06] eh, which, of course, has been under the command and coordination of the Junta de Comunidades
[00:11:10] de Castilla-La Mancha, and all the operations that various
[00:11:13] administrations have launched to provide a quick,
[00:11:17] urgent, and effective response to this tragedy. I
[00:11:21] would like, again, as the president has done, to wholeheartedly thank
[00:11:24] all that coordination, that professionalism of all public
[00:11:27] servants from the various administrations, who are undoubtedly
[00:11:31] giving their best.
[00:11:34] Secondly, I would also like to remind you that, from the point of
[00:11:37] view of Renfe, the plan for assistance to victims
[00:11:41] of railway accidents and also to
[00:11:44] relatives was launched, enabling a
[00:11:47] telephone number to be able
[00:11:52] of the victims, and of course, also a family
[00:11:56] assistance center at various stations on the
[00:11:59] AVE line Madrid
[00:12:03] Sevilla. I know that the private company
[00:12:06] Irio has also done the same, and I also know
[00:12:09] that Adif has done the same with
[00:12:13] assistance points for the relatives of the victims and people
[00:12:16] who are logically interested in knowing
[00:12:20] exactly the current state of this
[00:12:23] accident. I would like
[00:12:25] to wholeheartedly thank the psychological
[00:12:29] assistance services for the work they are
[00:12:31] doing for the relatives of the
[00:12:34] victims, also the public workers who, for
[00:12:38] example, were at the accident site throughout last
[00:12:40] night and yesterday, I think that on many occasions we forget
[00:12:44] the work done by the Red Cross, also to
[00:12:47] sem 112, well, I would also like to thank and acknowledge their
[00:12:50] work because it is fundamental in such a tragic situation
[00:12:54] as the current one, and finally,
[00:12:57] to convey, of course, to all citizens
[00:13:01] that the entire general administration of the state, all the institutions that
[00:13:04] belong to the state, from the smallest municipality to the government of
[00:13:08] Spain, are working day and night to not
[00:13:12] only provide a response to the relatives of the victims, but of course
[00:13:15] also to clarify every last detail of this
[00:13:19] tragedy and of course to reinforce security so that this does not happen
[00:13:22] again. That's all and thank you very much.
[00:13:25] Well, these are the words of the president of the Spanish
[00:13:29] government saying that the whole state is committed to the
[00:13:32] emergency response, in the search for the causes, he has also explained
[00:13:36] the material compensation for the relatives of the victims, we also
[00:13:39] heard the president of Castilla-La Mancha, Emiliano
[00:13:43] García Page, say that the four most critically injured seem
[00:13:47] to be evolving well, this is good
[00:13:50] news within the tragedy and that work
[00:13:54] is being done to identify the remains
[00:13:57] found among the
[00:14:17] infrastructures, eh, there are many questions hanging
[00:14:21] at this moment about what may have happened, it is true that these have been disclosed.
[00:14:25] that later we will have the opportunity to listen to, if it seems appropriate, to get
[00:14:29] down to business, let's start with the information we have, that is, that
[00:14:32] we have a stopped train, an
[00:14:35] AVE that starts at a normal speed,
[00:14:39] for 17 minutes it is circulating and
[00:14:42] no one from the control center of Atocha, these
[00:14:46] fateful 17 minutes, as we said at the beginning of the program, realizes that
[00:14:49] there is an AVE circulating at this speed at 200
[00:14:53] km/h and that... "there is a train stopped
[00:14:56] at 25 km, this is the great
[00:15:00] doubt that hangs over this tragedy and that for
[00:15:03] the moment we don't understand, even
[00:15:05] after listening to the audios that we will go to now, how it can be that
[00:15:09] in the face of what might seem like a human error, technology
[00:15:13] does not prevail. So let's go
[00:15:16] to the audios if you like, then we'll review them, let's go with the first
[00:15:18] audio.
[00:15:23] train driver.
[00:15:27] Yes, 2080 at
[00:15:28] 08:36.
[00:15:31] Yes, this says train
[00:15:35] driver.
[00:15:42] Two to
[00:15:45] disconnect,
[00:15:48] disconnect and reconnect, and reconnect
[00:15:51] the LZB,
[00:15:56] LZB and restart the march
[00:16:00] of the march under the protection of the BSL, under the
[00:16:03] protection of the BSL with normal
[00:16:06] march, with normal march, okay, agreed,
[00:16:10] come on, well, then tell me when you take it, okay, thank you very much, that's it, goodbye,
[00:16:14] goodbye, 76, here at Atocha, well,
[00:16:18] 676, eh, the train is not allowing me to perform the
[00:16:22] LZB system,
[00:16:24] and that's why I'm still stopped before the entrance signal,
[00:16:27] eh, okay, fine, well,
[00:16:30] eh, when you can, okay, and if you have problems, call us, okay, perfect, I'll tell
[00:16:34] them now, thanks,
[00:16:37] let's start with this last one,
[00:16:39] well, nothing,
[00:16:42] that is, the first question is whether these two
[00:16:45] audios, I don't know, correspond to the same
[00:16:49] person, that is, the person who is giving instructions
[00:16:53] to the AVE train is the same one who, with a
[00:16:56] certain calmness in her tone, tells the
[00:17:00] train driver of the Irio, well, when you can, start
[00:17:03] eh, are they the same, because normally if the trains
[00:17:07] are on the same track, they are victims of the same technological
[00:17:10] stop, it should be the same person giving these
[00:17:14] instructions and I don't know, but I have the feeling from the tone
[00:17:18] of voice that it was not the same person, but I don't know, eh, I don't know, in
[00:17:21] any case, how does it work, Andreu, yes, eh,
[00:17:24] I don't know if it's the same person, but the
[00:17:28] the control center
[00:17:31] was supervising at that moment six, six
[00:17:34] different high-speed trains, I understand, on the same section.
[00:17:38] Um, and normally there is usually a control person and an auxiliary
[00:17:42] person, eh, I don't know right now if it's the auxiliary person, in any
[00:17:45] case, there should be
[00:17:46] coordination.
[00:17:50] That is, there are six high-speed trains on the same track,
[00:17:54] is this normal? I understand that there are six high-speed trains.
[00:17:57] What quantity of high-speed trains would be recommended
[00:18:00] for this circulation line?
[00:18:03] Um, no, I understand that this is normal. What makes
[00:18:07] me, well, makes me think about many things,
[00:18:11] first the reflection that
[00:18:14] in high-speed trains a high-speed train needs 2
[00:18:18] km to brake, or a high-speed train at 200 km
[00:18:21] per hour needs a distance of 2 km of difference. A vehicle
[00:18:25] that goes at 100 km per hour needs 80 m
[00:18:28] to brake. So, to travel at 200 km per
[00:18:32] hour and be approaching an Irio that is stopped, how many kilometers before should
[00:18:36] it start braking? It should start braking 2 km before, 2 km
[00:18:40] before, therefore, plenty of time for reaction, very good, something that could not
[00:18:43] happen, eh, among other things because the instruction that the
[00:18:48] received was that the high-speed train should take
[00:18:51] a normal speed, um,
[00:18:55] and that's what we're seeing here is what happened, now
[00:18:59] we can greet Eugenio Perreño from the
[00:19:03] railway platform, Eugenio, we had already spoken with
[00:19:06] you unfortunately at...
[00:19:17] How is it possible that for approximately 17
[00:19:21] minutes, an AVE train that receives this order to start at
[00:19:25] a normal speed, is not recorded in any
[00:19:28] control center that there is an Irio train stopped
[00:19:32] 25 km further ahead. What explanation
[00:19:36] can you find for this?
[00:19:39] Well, let's
[00:19:42] see, there were more
[00:19:45] trains, there were more trains on that whole stretch, now
[00:19:50] traffic is a little saturated because
[00:19:54] since the liberalization of passenger transport,
[00:19:57] we have new companies like Irio
[00:20:01] and Wigo, and now there are quite a few
[00:20:04] circulations, so the traffic personnel at
[00:20:08] Atocha have to be aware of many
[00:20:11] things at the same time, they were waiting for the Irio
[00:20:15] to re-establish the LZB, the main traffic
[00:20:18] control system, they were trying
[00:20:21] to re-establish it and that's why the
[00:20:25] girl from the Irio train can't get the train
[00:20:28] to start because that system is not re-established,
[00:20:32] meanwhile, the other train, well, they had given it an
[00:20:35] indication to circulate at normal speed due to
[00:20:39] a matter of, let's see, that the
[00:20:43] LZB may be re-established, which is
[00:20:47] that, that's a confusion that I don't want to go into
[00:20:50] because that, eh, the stress of the moment
[00:20:54] or the circumstances may have led to that,
[00:20:57] and once they are not perhaps aware of
[00:21:01] all the trains, this traffic personnel
[00:21:04] are not aware of all of them, they are
[00:21:08] aware of many trains, but they have already
[00:21:11] indicated to advance, they also
[00:21:14] indicated to advance to the Irio, to the train in front,
[00:21:17] it could not advance, and, well, that's why they
[00:21:21] counted on the train behind advancing and the train in
[00:21:25] front advancing. Well,
[00:21:28] Eugenio, let me ask, can we do something?
[00:21:32] Can we play the audios and I would like you to help us interpret
[00:21:35] them through the
[00:21:37] audios as well.
[00:21:46] at 08:36
[00:21:50] this says train
[00:21:53] driver
[00:22:01] 208
[00:22:04] disconnect
[00:22:06] disconnect and reconnect
[00:22:08] zb
[00:22:18] and resume march. and resume the march under the
[00:22:21] BSL under the BSL with normal
[00:22:25] march with normal march okay agreed
[00:22:29] come on well then tell me when you take it okay thank you very much that's it goodbye
[00:22:32] goodbye
[00:22:34] 6076
[00:22:39] eh the train is not allowing me to resume the LZB system
[00:22:41] and that's why I'm still stopped before the entrance
[00:22:44] signal eh
[00:22:48] okay fine well eh when you can okay and if you have problems call
[00:22:52] us okay perfect I'll tell them now
[00:22:54] thanks Ah, what do you think,
[00:22:57] Eugenio, what do you think? There you hear that the
[00:23:01] RZB is restarting, the issue of connecting and disconnecting
[00:23:05] is, eh, that it has
[00:23:08] the main system, and
[00:23:11] disconnecting is when there is no connection, when you
[00:23:15] eh, connect and you don't get the connection, then you have to
[00:23:18] disconnect to go with the traffic lights following
[00:23:22] their indications, so connecting,
[00:23:25] disconnecting, well, maybe there has been a confusion
[00:23:28] and, well, it could be that the
[00:23:32] normal speed was a product of
[00:23:35] the fact that the train in front had already been given the
[00:23:39] order to advance, the girl from the train
[00:23:43] in front says she cannot advance because she cannot
[00:23:46] connect and the traffic controller tells
[00:23:50] her, well, eh, nothing,
[00:23:55] indicates when you can, he tells her when you can,
[00:23:59] but the AVE, the AVE is already coming, the AVE is already coming,
[00:24:02] so now but it was when it had to have
[00:24:06] started, the train in front had to have started
[00:24:09] the march, clear, but if it doesn't start, if
[00:24:13] the train doesn't start, then what I wanted to ask Eugenio
[00:24:17] is if that train that they tell
[00:24:20] to start when you can and it cannot,
[00:24:23] because the LZB system does
[00:24:27] not work, why, why does the AVE that
[00:24:31] has resumed normal march and not
[00:24:34] march at sight, why doesn't the AVE receive an
[00:24:38] immediate order to stop, because there is an obstacle
[00:24:41] which is an Irio a few kilometers away, that is the question that many
[00:24:45] of us ask ourselves, yes, well, because that, because it seems that when they tell
[00:24:49] you to go normal, you go, you see, I don't know
[00:24:52] exactly what the expression is, but if you have problems, call us,
[00:24:56] it is understood that the girl is
[00:24:59] starting the march, eh, passing a
[00:25:03] red traffic light, a red signal, eh, which is what
[00:25:07] governs in these cases, just as the driver of the train
[00:25:10] behind passed , so we are
[00:25:14] now entering into fine-tuning a lot of the issues of the
[00:25:17] conversations and the moment. And the stress
[00:25:21] and the crowding of trains, we are entering
[00:25:25] there, there is, that is where the failure
[00:25:28] has been able to be given that has been given due to all these
[00:25:34] has happened, if not eh if one of the
[00:25:37] circumstances had not occurred, just like we are in the Alamuz accident,
[00:25:41] if one of the circumstances had not occurred, there would not have been
[00:25:44] this tragedy, we have to leave it here because we have to go back to Urda right now,
[00:25:48] we thank you very much.
[00:26:02] And the work continues all day with these large cranes
[00:26:06] and with hundreds of members of the Civil Guard and the Military Emergency Unit
[00:26:09] who have been working here all night and today eh it is surely
[00:26:13] that they will also work 24 hours, we can now provide you with some more data,
[00:26:17] we will do it through the spokeswoman of this device of the
[00:26:20] Civil Guard who accompanies us live, Llanos Olivares, good morning, good morning,
[00:26:23] hello, to tell you the data about eh the
[00:26:27] operation right now, well, since the railway accident occurred yesterday until...
[00:26:30] accidente ferroviario hasta...
[00:26:32] more than 900 members of the Civil Guard from different
[00:26:35] specialties have been deployed to be able to cover
[00:26:39] an accident of this magnitude, both to rescue
[00:26:43] people and to locate the people who are missing. Work is being
[00:26:46] done eh in the remains of the damaged wagons.
[00:26:49] What is being done there? Work is being done with large
[00:26:53] cranes, but also in some cases manually removing the remaining debris,
[00:26:57] right? Eh, our work right
[00:27:01] Civil Guard, eh, has moved here with its dogs, eh,
[00:27:04] first to eh cordon off the area and once it is
[00:27:08] secured and cordoned off, eh, they will work with the dogs for us to
[00:27:10] detect
[00:27:13] eh possible biological remains of people here,
[00:27:16] eh, obviously work is also done with the number of
[00:27:20] missing people at the current time, what is the number of reports
[00:27:23] that eh so far 64 reports have been counted,
[00:27:27] eh, that is why we want to insist and raise awareness,
[00:27:31] please, that any family member who has a missing person, eh,
[00:27:34] a first-degree relative, should go to the four points that we have set up
[00:27:38] to eh be able to collect a DNA sample to compare them with the
[00:27:41] people who are missing, where are these points located? These points are located
[00:27:47] Cordoba, in the Civil Guard area of Andalusia in Seville
[00:27:51] and in the Civil Guard area in Madrid. They are insisting on this message because
[00:27:54] they suspect that not all disappearances have been reported yet, until now
[00:27:58] eh we want to eh verify 100%
[00:28:02] that all people are identified, perfect,
[00:28:05] thank you very much, well, these are the data that the spokeswoman
[00:28:08] of the Civil Guard has just confirmed to us, therefore insisting above all that all
[00:28:12] disappearances be reported and what she told us, work is being done with these more
[00:28:16] than 900 agents of the Civil Guard also of the military emergency
[00:28:19] unit extracting eh under
[00:28:22] these cranes that are supporting so that these
[00:28:26] wagons do not end up falling, eh,
[00:28:29] the scrap metal is being extracted from under it, looking with...
[00:28:32] these dogs from the Civil Guard's canine unit,
[00:28:35] trying to find these biological remains, therefore, bodies that may
[00:28:39] have been trapped, we have been able to see among other things, Elena, in today's
[00:28:43] images how eh one of the AVE train
[00:28:46] wagons crashed into one of the Irio train
[00:28:50] wagons, we have been able to eh observe it today and it is really eh a terrifying
[00:28:54] image that evidences the violence of the impact,
[00:28:57] at this time we still do not have a clear idea of the speed at which this
[00:29:00] collision between the two trains occurred. But hey, seeing this image,
[00:29:03] it is clear that it must have been a high
[00:29:07] order they gave him from the control center to resume
[00:29:11] normal speed, thanks for that, let's go now to Toledo
[00:29:15] where the most seriously injured have been transferred and today the identification of the
[00:29:19] deceased victims will begin, what is the latest
[00:29:21] news?
[00:29:24] Yes, exactly, we also have an update on this number of injured people that
[00:29:27] is slightly lower, if this morning
[00:29:30] the injured people who... were in the hospitals here in
[00:29:33] Castilla-La Mancha were 56, this figure has
[00:29:37] decreased in the latest update to 50
[00:29:40] hospitalized people, the hospital that is currently
[00:29:44] treating the most injured is the University Hospital of
[00:29:48] Toledo, a few meters from where we are right now
[00:29:51] and it is there where, for example, King Felipe will make an institutional
[00:29:55] visit starting at 3 in the afternoon here
[00:29:58] at this eh hospital, 12 people continue to be in the ICU, in fact, the families
[00:30:02] of these people are being
[00:30:06] able to stay in a youth hostel very close
[00:30:09] to this hospital, that on the one hand, that regarding the
[00:30:13] most seriously injured, as we said, eh 12 of whom
[00:30:16] are in the ICU of this Toledo hospital, but here we are at the Institute of Legal
[00:30:19] and Forensic Medicine, today, as we also
[00:30:23] explained in the summary, Elena, these identification tasks will begin, tasks that
[00:30:26] will be eh complicated, in fact, we just heard Emiliano García Paje
[00:30:30] who said that when the seconds were lifted. they found parts, they found
[00:30:34] remains, not whole bodies and this already
[00:30:38] indicates first the violence of the impact second how
[00:30:42] difficult this identification of the
[00:30:45] bodies will be, somewhat eh, the same as what happened in the accident
[00:30:49] nine months ago in Adamuz on the same
[00:30:52] line, here 52 eh bodies have arrived,
[00:30:56] eight autopsies have been performed, the intention is that the
[00:30:59] autopsies that...