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[00:00:00] and tell people what to do, but once we say it, it will be
[00:00:03] difficult to retrieve. yeah, okay, so we need to be
[00:00:06] careful with social
[00:00:20] yeah, i want to greet all of you in the studio there, you know,
[00:00:24] yeah, i want to, yeah, i'm listening to
[00:00:27] everything now that the bishop have said, okay, I want to
[00:00:31] ask one question, is um, what the
[00:00:34] catholic priest, the catholic bishops, what they
[00:00:37] said to Mr. President, is he, is he right or
[00:00:41] wrong, and at the
[00:00:42] of same time, are they speaking the mind of at least average
[00:00:45] Nigerian, is there insecurity in the land, is
[00:00:49] there poverty in the land, is there aship in the land,
[00:00:53] I want the bishop to respond, and at the same time,
[00:00:56] see, when we are talking national TV,
[00:01:03] Oh, it looks like we
[00:01:05] of lost um, Shaggo, but Bishop, he just wants
[00:01:08] to confirm exactly what he said, why is it a problem,
[00:01:12] he's saying, um, the um group
[00:01:16] that went to visit the uh president were talking about
[00:01:20] of insecurity and the issues, the national issues that we're facing today, were
[00:01:24] of they, are they wrong, is what he saying, thank you very much, you
[00:01:28] know, it's very easy for. for us to forget
[00:01:31] easily, mr. president came to power three years ago
[00:01:35] and some months, insecurity has been
[00:01:37] with us
[00:01:38] the last 15
[00:01:39] of years and it
[00:01:40] was worse under other government than now, but with what
[00:01:44] happened in abduction and their
[00:01:47] release, we must know that there is concerted
[00:01:51] of efforts on the part
[00:01:52] of the government to make sure that those people came back and
[00:01:56] many others and i was looking at the...
[00:02:00] of life of our security agents and agencies
[00:02:04] with what they are doing, we sleep those people are in the
[00:02:07] bush, and
[00:02:08] of everybody knows the cause of our insecurity, number one,
[00:02:12] climate change, number two,
[00:02:15] of survivor
[00:02:16] of instincts draw people from warring nation to come to Nigeria,
[00:02:20] so these
[00:02:20] are and number three, there was a
[00:02:23] of time in in Nigeria that people went to those places to bring
[00:02:27] them
[00:02:28] of to come and fight because of... and after election the
[00:02:32] people refuse to go back and they have arms so they now desorted
[00:02:36] into kidnapping because the this they
[00:02:38] of discover is saving and they have lot of money from it, but when
[00:02:42] you have search and you inherited search and
[00:02:45] of somebody says i'm going to face it end long, america have come into assist
[00:02:49] us and many things have happened, the
[00:02:52] most wanted person on earth in
[00:02:55] ISIS was found in our area and
[00:03:00] how we now say we have not improved in our security,
[00:03:04] then when you talk of
[00:03:06] of poverty, poverty started
[00:03:07] of when, what is the contribution, what is the
[00:03:11] approach of Mr. president to poverty, now you have a
[00:03:15] floating exchange rates and there is no
[00:03:18] parallel market anymore, read just this
[00:03:22] morning that our external reserve has
[00:03:25] of gone to 52 point something billion dollars, that is a
[00:03:29] credit of... mr president's part, that is what we are saying, we cannot
[00:03:33] see everything just turn overnight,
[00:03:35] of it's a gradual process, okay, yes, people are passing
[00:03:39] through
[00:03:40] of difficulties, but we are also getting results, which on the
[00:03:44] law ground Nigeria will
[00:04:10] a I, I totally agree with with your guest this morning,
[00:04:14] you see, when you were talking about the politics in this country, there is no
[00:04:18] how you can separate politics and
[00:04:21] religious, both
[00:04:22] of them are five and six, uh, I guess just tell you something that they
[00:04:26] wanted to vote
[00:04:28] of in a state, maybe coming this sunday with. their
[00:04:30] a religious uh, it's also a politic as he rightly said
[00:04:34] of earlier, the only thing the critic of Mr. President, I just
[00:04:38] want because this is a program that alloy everyone of us to call
[00:04:42] him, and then apart from this program we have this morning, we have
[00:04:45] journalist, that's
[00:04:47] of why TVC TVC stand out of all the television
[00:04:51] station we have in this country, you see, I want people to
[00:04:54] call in and tell us
[00:04:56] of that what our guest is saying this morning is not true.
[00:05:01] they should calling to tell us that the net fund is not there, they should call they
[00:05:04] should calling to tell us that
[00:05:06] the the road that mr president is doing is not there, and then i'm
[00:05:10] also very very happy when it was mention. that the person that was
[00:05:13] criticized Mr. President wrongly in terms
[00:05:16] of he go there on his own you know
[00:05:20] why why because I read it that he said that Mr. President should
[00:05:23] return the school to
[00:05:25] the to the owner where Mr. President in the lagos according to
[00:05:28] in fact then I know as well when he was a governor of Lagus state he
[00:05:32] returned all these school to who belong to up to today are you not
[00:05:36] telling me that Mr. President should tell the governor of
[00:05:39] your state governor of state and all that. they should do the same
[00:05:43] thing before they know the right thing to do, so as I said earlier,
[00:05:47] in the 2023 election that is already gone, it is very very
[00:05:50] difficult from the
[00:05:52] from Mr. President there,
[00:05:54] you know why, why? because even the political party that he was belong
[00:05:58] to, everything is against him as at that time, but coming
[00:06:01] 2027 has lot of to tell Nigerian people that this is what I'm
[00:06:05] doing, this is what I've done, and then if he said that he has done this, he has done
[00:06:08] that, you should tell us that
[00:06:10] it is a lie, that is why we can be able. to change our mind, but we cannot be able to tell
[00:06:14] us that Mr. President is lied, that he do this, he
[00:06:17] do that, believe me in you, Niger, Nigerian is going to f
[00:06:21] president again,
[00:06:24] and okay, so I have a comments
[00:06:26] in answer to, ik
[00:06:30] judge says politics in church in his block, out the
[00:06:33] five is because there's nothing like politics in Catholic Church, we don't
[00:06:37] elect bishops in the catholic church, that's
[00:06:41] a great mistake. how do they now el the
[00:06:44] pope? i've been in Rome many times and it's shown
[00:06:48] life when they want to el the pope when you see the white
[00:06:51] smok pope has emerged the new pope and of course
[00:06:55] even election or that is election
[00:06:59] all the cardinals we vote yes and once they have the
[00:07:02] highest number then you see the white smoke then everybody celebrate
[00:07:06] a new pope as m and even the bishops they vote
[00:07:10] for them and they will elect them. and whoever imagines the
[00:07:13] winner becomes the bishop, but to my understanding,
[00:07:17] i don't think that's the politics you're talking about, you're just saying that people will take sides
[00:07:21] and that inner politics cuz you said you
[00:07:25] know, i think what is referring to, you said that some the politics within the church
[00:07:29] is even worse than the politics in with political
[00:07:32] parties, so i'm saying that from my
[00:07:36] understanding of what you're saying that there's lots of inside you
[00:07:39] know, how do you put it politics? inside
[00:07:43] politics i guess that happened that is not necessarily what you've just described which
[00:07:47] is electing bishop, electing pope, but we're talking of some the
[00:07:51] conversations that can happen within that does not usually reflect
[00:07:55] what has been what is out there for most people to say um to see,
[00:07:58] so i'm thinking that that's what he's referring to no place,
[00:08:02] that there is no politics or must either in the romangalic
[00:08:06] church, in the methodist which belong, in the anglical communion that
[00:08:10] there's no politics, if there is no politics where how
[00:08:13] do you prefer one to the other? you say this one is qualified
[00:08:17] this one? how? the two them are phd, them the attended
[00:08:20] two the same seminary, and you also even have age
[00:08:24] barrier in some churches, once you pass the age of 55,
[00:08:27] you cannot be elected bishop anymore, is that not
[00:08:30] politics? where do we get that from? that is what people have written
[00:08:34] down as condition to be made bishop, and there
[00:08:38] are people that you know they are voca and they try to subject.
[00:08:42] suppress them, take them to places where they know they will
[00:08:46] not function maximally, that is politics, that's why we should
[00:08:50] not question sir, when i said where is the place the holy ghost, the holy
[00:08:54] spirit, until we get
[00:09:25] if you look at what happened with Cardinal Yeeneka or
[00:09:28] something like that, I went to see the president, there's nothing bad in that, which is
[00:09:32] okay, but when you went there, you had conversation with
[00:09:35] president, and you now came out, you went to
[00:09:39] the uh, one the television, which I want to mention. to
[00:09:42] go and expose what you discuss it is ungodly and
[00:09:46] it is just unfair you understand somebody that gave you an
[00:09:49] heart really respect you and you now went to another
[00:09:53] station to go to go and be pontificating which is very very
[00:09:56] bad so like what the bishop is saying is that you
[00:10:00] can criticize but criticize constructively
[00:10:04] when you criticize constructively almighty god will judge you according to
[00:10:08] intention what he did with the president he will be judged by almighty
[00:10:11] god and the person that called uh something
[00:10:15] like that, it's just unfortunate, okay, look at what said, does
[00:10:19] you do you want to tell me is not read, you want to tell me that
[00:10:23] unification of policy is not? you understand you you want to
[00:10:27] tell me that las road is not there and some other
[00:10:30] project they are not saying that they should not criticize you are free
[00:10:34] to criticize but criticize constructively the
[00:10:38] person that went there when you look at his antecedents he was the one that
[00:10:42] said that they shouldn't have seen
[00:10:45] president in 2023 that they should wait for the judgment
[00:10:49] that so it's just unfortunate the man he should have removed
[00:10:52] his cock and put NDC part.
[00:11:04] on has never hidden his name for
[00:11:06] the president, is that an history?
[00:11:08] it is criticism, you know,
[00:11:10] i don't want to refer to that, but since it has come out, you in 2023
[00:11:14] when president was declared the winner, cardinal nikon said
[00:11:18] he will not recognize mr president until the v is given at
[00:11:22] the supreme court which is normal, but said Nigerians have
[00:11:26] voted and that is what people have said, so
[00:11:29] until the decision is overturn by this
[00:11:33] supreme court, that is when you can speak, but for us to say we don't have a
[00:11:36] president, we told him that we have a president, and
[00:11:40] you cannot tell us we don't have a president, and what
[00:11:44] has happened again, that is what we are not happy with, we are now
[00:11:48] starting the same thing that happened in 2023,
[00:11:52] bringing and we have no problem with you. having
[00:11:55] your own candidates, you can have, but don't run
[00:11:59] down other people's candidates, sell
[00:12:02] your own candidates, let people see what your candidate have done that
[00:12:06] justifies him to become the president of Nigeria, and
[00:12:09] we the people who also believe in Mr. President, let them
[00:12:13] show the people, yes, and the people don't even need to be told anymore, people
[00:12:17] have told you deny uh, Legos Kalaba
[00:12:21] road, deny shagam, bin road, or...
[00:12:34] of what state government received before now, let them deny,
[00:12:38] let the governor say
[00:12:39] it is not real, they are not being given, denied the local government
[00:12:42] autonomy, that we have been clamoring for many
[00:12:45] years, mr. president succeeded in doing it, and what a lot of
[00:12:49] president shir away from, mr. president confronted them at long
[00:12:53] and is getting result and i
[00:12:54] say to people, you don't find too many of Mr. President in
[00:12:58] every generation, they are very few and real, when you have
[00:13:02] one, maximize their
[00:13:37] thank uh the bishop,
[00:13:40] uh, I want to appreciate the bishop for
[00:13:43] being very
[00:13:47] frank and open, for the first time we are seeing a
[00:13:51] man of God that is coming on here to declare where he actually belongs to.
[00:13:55] and this is fire cry from what some
[00:13:58] people in the house of God
[00:14:02] continue to do to pretend to deceive
[00:14:05] Nigerians, nobody is very clear that
[00:14:08] cardinal on
[00:14:12] with due respect, we all know where he belong
[00:14:14] to, but coming to tell us that
[00:14:18] is a political, he
[00:14:22] doesn't have candidate and you are coming you went a
[00:14:26] visit a real visit to the villa to meet with the president
[00:14:30] and the only things you can real out in your list
[00:14:33] is bad news, it
[00:14:37] is only the dead and the blind. i'm not saying nigeria is
[00:14:41] ruhuru, no that's not
[00:14:43] what i'm saying, insecurity, is there insecurity? yes, there is
[00:14:46] insecurity, is the country hard, yes it is
[00:14:50] hard, but is the government doing something obviously,
[00:14:53] yes. so I believe the people that went
[00:14:57] to the villa should have been so objective
[00:15:01] enough, at least pretend to be objective
[00:15:05] by encouraging the president, by telling him this is we
[00:15:09] have done this, we have done this, we have seen
[00:15:12] victims were rescued, coudos to you the president, but there
[00:15:16] is much to be done, then the president will
[00:15:19] listen, so you want the president to rul out red carpet for
[00:15:23] his opponent, just because he want to prove that is
[00:15:26] fair and the man said all is fair in politics
[00:15:30] provided there is level playing grand what is wrong in
[00:15:34] that so please i just want to use this
[00:15:37] opportunity to continue to encourage the
[00:15:41] bishop adigite, let us know where you are,
[00:15:45] which you have shown, and let the other men of God that wants to put
[00:15:49] their hearts to the ring of politics, let them be fair enough
[00:15:53] to let us know where they belong and stop deceiving
[00:16:09] leaders to be doing moving forward, there is no need for us to hit up
[00:16:13] the polity, let us pray for government, let us pray for
[00:16:16] Mr. President, which is our duty, because if it
[00:16:20] is not well, it will affect everybody, and we don't have any other
[00:16:24] country, this is the best country, i came back from journey, i
[00:16:28] said to you, Nigeria is blessed, anywhere you
[00:16:31] go, talk of weather, no natural disaster,
[00:16:35] God is on our side, put your planted. anywhere it will grow, this
[00:16:39] is the place we belong to, nobody can take
[00:16:42] Nigerians, no nation in Africa, whether anybody
[00:16:46] accepts it or not, we remain the giant of Africa because of
[00:16:50] our number, and that is the number that we must take care of,
[00:16:53] there are the biggest room in the world is the room of
[00:16:57] improvement, we can do better, yes, and Mr. President can do
[00:17:01] better, and he's going to do better, but let us support him, let us pray for
[00:17:04] him, if we have constructive criticism, criticize
[00:17:08] and he will listen, it's somebody that has listening here, we have seen it over the years
[00:17:12] and it's going to be well with Mr. President, be well with all Nigerians,
[00:17:16] beware with every one of us and this electionaring it
[00:17:20] is not do or die affairs, let it be
[00:17:23] peaceful, do your campaign with peace, don't kill anybody,
[00:17:27] converse for your votes, on the day the election let Nigeria decide, and
[00:17:31] after election we don't want violence, let the reserve be announced,
[00:17:34] winner be inaugurated again
[00:17:37] and let the... name the Lord be glorified and he shall be where with all of
[00:17:40] us. Thank you so much sir for joining us
[00:17:44] today and helping us answer some these questions and that's all
[00:17:48] we can take on this segment with Bishop Steven
[00:17:51] Adibite executive secretary the Nigerian Christian
[00:17:55] Pilgrims Commission. Thank you again sir for coming. Thank you very much. We'll go
[00:17:59] a short break now when we return we'll move to the hot topic for the day. Stay with us.
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