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[00:01:03] of [00:01:18] in deadly bola outbreak in the [00:01:26] of of Democratic Republic of of Congo raises global health concerns as authorities w that infections are spreading [00:01:28] of faster than [00:01:29] of [00:01:29] of efforts to... contain the [00:01:30] virus [00:01:34] and in Africa's security landscape, France [00:01:38] of of begins rebuilding military ties with child shifting from his former troop deployment to new focus [00:01:42] on training, intelligence and strategic [00:01:45] of support. me [00:01:54] hello everyone, thanks for joining us, you're watching world now, i am [00:01:58] of precious, amayu now focus. is on Africa today, [00:02:01] of first health and then um security, but let's start with health, the [00:02:05] of ebolla of outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo is escalating [00:02:09] at alarming pace [00:02:10] of with Africa's top public health [00:02:12] of officials warning that the response is struggling to keep [00:02:15] up, since the outbreak was declared in mid May, nearly [00:02:19] 3,900 cases and more than 1,750 [00:02:23] deaths have been recorded, making it the fastest growing ebola [00:02:27] outbreak in the country's history, and the second largest. ever documented [00:02:31] worldwild, Africa CDC director general John [00:02:34] Caseya says, traditional contact tracing is no longer [00:02:38] containing the virus with nearly 70% of new infections [00:02:42] of emerging outside known contact networks, that's a clear sign of [00:02:46] widespread community transmission. I committed [00:02:50] to come in Bunya with [00:02:52] of WHO to reevaluate what is going [00:02:57] of on and then to go back to uh. to him, what [00:03:01] could be our recommendations on the way to stop this outbreak? we [00:03:04] don't like the trajectory of this outbreak, and [00:03:08] it's already the second largest outbreak in the [00:03:12] world, but if we take a photo after [00:03:15] 14 weeks of declaration, it's the [00:03:19] biggest outbreak, seven times more than the west [00:03:23] african outbreak, we cannot continue like [00:03:25] that. now during visit to kinshasa, world [00:03:29] health. organization director general Teadros Adenom [00:03:32] Gabriyesus described the situation as deeply [00:03:35] concerning, even as laboratory testing and treatment capacity continue to [00:03:39] expand. The outbreak is caug by the caused by the [00:03:43] Bundebigo strain of Ebola for which there are currently no approved [00:03:46] vaccines or treatment. ongoing conflict, displacement and [00:03:50] illegal mining activities have further complicated containment [00:03:53] efforts. In response, the United States has [00:03:56] of announced additional $242 million dollars in emergency. [00:04:00] bonding as health authorities raised to slow the spread and [00:04:04] prevent more lives from being [00:04:05] lost. now [00:04:09] Dr. Agota is the vice president of medical initiative for [00:04:12] Africa, he joins me virtually for more on this, good to have you [00:04:16] a geneta, thank you for having me. [00:04:20] so in this latest outbreak, over a thousand people in my [00:04:23] close to 2,0 people now have died, um, in the [00:04:27] 2013 to 2016 outbreak is... took about eight months to get [00:04:31] to that figure, i wonder why the death rate in this particular [00:04:35] outbreak is so rapid? yeah, [00:04:39] thank you for having me, several reasons, you would remember [00:04:43] that WHO only declared that this was a public health emergency [00:04:47] of international concern in May [00:04:51] 15th of this year, but when we look at the epidemiology that [00:04:55] is the look at the history of this condition, sometime in [00:04:58] January and in February, March and April, we had already [00:05:02] started [00:05:03] of seeing cases and when we [00:05:04] did a look back on the possibility, we felt that we were [00:05:08] behind shadow by as much as three to five months, so what [00:05:12] we tried to do now was basically catch up, the the [00:05:15] virus had field and was out there multiplying, that has been [00:05:19] a critical factor because we were playing catch up, the second factor [00:05:22] obviously is that this outbreak is in the region the [00:05:26] eastern democratic republic of Congo where there [00:05:30] is significant security challenge, in this [00:05:33] region we have over 100 non-state actors at [00:05:37] play, these are militias who have their interests mainly in [00:05:41] mining, e and in the [00:05:43] in the conflict between headers and farmers in this area. the militias [00:05:47] obviously militias like M23, Kodeco, CRP and the [00:05:51] allied democratic forces, these are playing a significant [00:05:55] role in that area. the health sector in that area is also quite [00:05:59] weak. malaria is about 50% in prevalence [00:06:03] and funding is major challenge, so all of [00:06:06] this layered on community mistrust, we have [00:06:10] people who still eat bts. Actually we also [00:06:14] suspect that is this some these practices were important in the [00:06:18] transmission from the animal population to the human [00:06:21] population. Apart from that, even when people die, there's a lot of [00:06:25] interaction in the in the barrial processes. Africans, we [00:06:29] love to hold our bodies, we need to bait them, we want to dress them, we want to [00:06:33] interact with the dead body as part the process, that also [00:06:36] increases the transmission, and another very important factor is [00:06:40] that the behavior the health. the healthcare seeking behavior in [00:06:44] this region is also contributing, you have people who prefer to go to [00:06:48] traditional healers, um, herbal treatment, [00:06:51] spiritual home, religious home as the first point of contact [00:06:55] delaying presentation in health facilities, and even [00:06:59] when we've had health facilities, people do not present there because they also [00:07:02] feel that oh, this is just malaria, or they also feel that the [00:07:06] NGOs have special interest on why they are even in the [00:07:10] DRC any point in time. "just the back [00:07:14] of what you you're saying right now, I also understand one the [00:07:17] biggest challenges is that four in five of new cases [00:07:21] um have no known chain of transmission, which means that [00:07:25] they um the cases are still more community based [00:07:28] that contact list based - what is the implication of [00:07:32] that? okay, so for every [00:07:35] ebola case we have, it means that you need [00:07:39] to track between let's say 30 to 100." [00:07:42] cases so for the for and if you want to come to [00:07:46] number and you say maybe let's say 40 cases you want to track 40 cases contact [00:07:50] trace 40 cases that means that for the [00:07:53] 3,800 cases we have you probably have over 100 thous to [00:07:57] contact trace however our current contact tracing [00:08:00] list has less than 15,000 people now that means that you [00:08:04] have over 100 thousand people that are not in that [00:08:07] list and that is where most the patients we are all now seeing are [00:08:11] coming from. that tells you that if you cannot identify people who are at [00:08:15] risk, contact trace them and even prevent them from [00:08:19] transmitting to other people or diagnosing them, it means that these people will continue at [00:08:23] the community level to transmit this condition, so that's why [00:08:26] this particular outbreak has outpaced the [00:08:30] highest outbreak prior to now, which was between 2018 and [00:08:33] 2020. so so speak to the response [00:08:37] air force just off the back you know of this new cases and then the fact [00:08:41] that they are still coming from the community. what then is the community sorry the response [00:08:45] efforts uh in comparison to the the [00:08:49] new case new cases? well [00:08:52] the the again [00:08:53] the the other issue is that response will always be there, but [00:08:57] we we have several response, multiple dimensions, at the local level, [00:09:01] yes they've tried to build their capacity, they have lot of experience in treating embola, [00:09:05] but they are limited, they have fear resources, at the time of this onset [00:09:09] we had less than uh 50 centers. diagnosis, that [00:09:13] number has increased in thousands, now we can able to test people [00:09:17] faster, but the major challenge again has also been the fact that [00:09:20] we don't have a single tested, [00:09:24] confirmed treatment of vaccine for bundubigu, we do [00:09:28] not, we have vaccine for Zaye which is effective, but we don't have [00:09:32] for Bundobigo, there are two candidates now, uh, Oxford has [00:09:35] started face one trial for the first candidate vaccine, [00:09:39] moderna is going to start a trial very soon, so we expect... the outcomes of this [00:09:43] studies to come up maybe sometime in September, that's the earliest time we're [00:09:47] going to have vaccine, when it comes to medication, monoclonal [00:09:50] antibodies and some antivirals, we have about two or three or four at [00:09:54] play now and we are just testing them, we basically do not have any [00:09:58] specific treatment, so all the treatment has to be supported, [00:10:02] people have fever, you give them paracetamol, antipariretics, they are they are [00:10:06] losing fluids, you give them fluids, they are feeling pain, losing blood, you [00:10:09] transfuse them, so it's basically prevent. to [00:10:13] preventive and supportive care that we need to focus on [00:10:17] until we get specific treatment for this condition and just [00:10:21] speaking on preventive care we understand that number of studies and [00:10:25] research are ongoing also clinical trials for for different several [00:10:29] drugs to ensure that and it's not for those who have who have [00:10:32] contracted the virus but for those who [00:10:35] you know haven't you know just talking about preventive care [00:10:38] where are we in terms of that and how fast are things moving and how [00:10:42] promising um are these research and [00:10:44] studies okay so we categorize those interventions [00:10:48] into tree you have a antiviral we [00:10:52] tried it sometime when we had COVID not too [00:10:54] long ago. v so rem has antiviral properties, so there has [00:10:58] been a trial that has now started, it is used as [00:11:02] post-exposure prophylaxis, so for patients who [00:11:06] are contact, they are not yet confirmed to be have ebola, but they were [00:11:09] contact with confirmed cases, so what is been done is that within [00:11:13] if you present within 5 days of being in contact with a [00:11:17] patient who is confirmed, you are now giving this medication and i think [00:11:21] about less than 30 people are now enrolled after. [00:11:25] sometime in September we will know the effect because we will need a space of about [00:11:29] 21 days after treatment to judge and see and then [00:11:33] multiply that by 42 days now that's for post exposposure [00:11:36] prophylaxis one - there is what you call antibodies [00:11:40] injections so you give a fluid that contains an antibody [00:11:43] against the virus now we're also trying to see if that's going to work but it's still [00:11:47] being studied now the third arm is what we [00:11:50] call obeldesv that [00:11:54] is also an viral medication that is also being tried in [00:11:57] prevention and lastly are the vaccines, at this [00:12:00] point none these have been approved, the [00:12:04] vaccines are in phase one trial, one is in phase one trial, the [00:12:08] second one we hope to hope that will start in the few weeks to [00:12:11] come, and for the medications and specific treatment there is no [00:12:15] confirmation, the reports are [00:12:18] positive, but we cannot say until we that that [00:12:21] study is completed according to the the standards. [00:12:25] Dr. I want to take a minute to just ask you because one the cherry news coming [00:12:29] is that Uganda has declared that it is um it is Ebola [00:12:32] free. What does that mean for the rest the continent? Can we [00:12:36] relax some the measures that we put in place? Oh no, [00:12:40] we can't relax any measure. Esbula yes [00:12:44] uh is been declared in Uganda, but that's that is now has to go [00:12:48] through the normal incubation period. They had the 42 days after their last [00:12:52] case and they did that declaration on the 28th of July. but we still have [00:12:56] to wait, what happens is that ebola and the northern [00:12:59] part of Democratic Republic of Congo are basically [00:13:03] integ, they are they are very related socially and economically, [00:13:07] all most the mining that is going on in Bunia, [00:13:10] Mongualu, not in Kivo, south kivo and even in [00:13:14] Ituru where you have the epicenter of this disease, most the [00:13:17] mining that is going on there, they take this mining and they cross border to [00:13:21] Uganda where they do the refining, so this these countries [00:13:25] the the border there is just they're interfacing so the the the [00:13:29] interaction is significant so the are it's not a time ours [00:13:33] our our guard it's a time even heighten it and learn from [00:13:37] the from from the lessons so far also important is that every [00:13:40] flight that is coming from the eastern eastern africa [00:13:44] is also risk factor that's why you have to cont of entry [00:13:48] screening you have to increase awareness about your programs in [00:13:52] place and you and not to lower your down [00:13:55] absolutely, absolutely, especially with the the case rates - the coming from [00:13:59] the community and then uh the death rates, mean we're following [00:14:02] developments in DROC, thank you so much for your time, as always, [00:14:06] vice president, medical initiative for Africa, [00:14:09] Dr. Always a [00:14:12] pleasure, we take a break now when we return [00:14:16] attention will be turned to security, still in Africa, stay [00:14:20] with [00:14:20] us. [00:14:27] and thanks for staying with us everyone, let's [00:14:30] to a Chad where France is reshiping its military strategy in [00:14:33] Africa with Chad emerging as a key partner, and that's less [00:14:37] than two years after ending a defense agreement that brought to [00:14:41] close, 65 years of continuous French military [00:14:44] presence, following months of diplomatic engagement, [00:14:48] Paris and Germaina have begon rebuilding security [00:14:51] cooperation, the renewed partnership focuses on military trade. in [00:14:55] intelligence sharing, medical evacuation and limited air [00:14:59] support rather than permanent French bases or large troop [00:15:03] deployment. The shift comes after France with drew his forces from [00:15:06] Mali, Burkina Faso, Nija and Chad, are prompting a brother [00:15:10] rethink of his role on the continent. Chad had explored [00:15:14] security partnerships with Russia, Turkey and the United Arab [00:15:17] Emirates, but those efforts delivered limited results [00:15:21] paving the way for renewed cooperation with France under the new... [00:15:25] arrangement, all activities will operate with the approval the Itadian [00:15:28] government, reflecting on Jamana's push for greater [00:15:31] sovereignty over his security partnerships. now for France, the [00:15:35] renewed relationship helps preserve is [00:15:37] so strategic I presence am, in central Africa, while for Chad, he [00:15:41] provides critical support tackling armed groups in the Lake Chad [00:15:44] Basin and along is brought his border with [00:15:48] Sudan. Let's bring [00:15:52] in director uh Suvera Africa, Charles Yakombo, good to have [00:15:56] you join us, thank you for having [00:15:59] me. All I, right, of [00:16:01] Charles, course, I know that you have been following this development and I wanted to ask you what you make the [00:16:05] diplomatic reset. [00:16:07] and the security realignment between France and [00:16:10] Chard? uh, I think Chard [00:16:13] should be celebrated for taking a bold move to [00:16:17] relook into the security controls in the country, because the [00:16:21] major role of a government is to protect their own [00:16:25] citizens, so [00:16:26] you know Chard is anoded by you, lot of security threats, whether [00:16:30] you look at Sudan side, the war in Sudan, infilating back [00:16:33] to chad is very possible, looking at ' [00:16:38] uh the lake chat base inside where we have security [00:16:40] threats that really also threatens [00:16:44] the security or under stability of chad [00:16:48] itself of course with the bokoko haram also the cases [00:16:51] of Nijan of course Libya the top so chard is strategically [00:16:55] a very dangerous position in terms of security wise but why I'm saying that chat [00:16:59] should be at least celebrated for this is that they are redefining [00:17:03] relationship so it is not like the old model [00:17:07] where uh the France was you know [00:17:11] had had lot of say on what is happening, but now we are coming under our own [00:17:15] terms and that is something that uh, you know, if you ask me, I [00:17:18] will [00:17:19] say that will be leading now to France also [00:17:22] the rethinking the approach to Africa, not looking at Africa [00:17:24] like you, you know, you know, [00:17:28] just a country to, a continent to be buldosed around, [00:17:32] so I believe this would be should be the interest the Chidian [00:17:36] government uh... of course the ch you know the charder [00:17:40] accounts on unless the other [00:17:43] arrangements [00:17:44] you know after the agreements will be will be re overlooked [00:17:48] um defense analyst described it as cautious attempts to [00:17:52] return through this france to return through the site door uh with fewer [00:17:56] soldiers less visibility and the more dependence on Chidian political [00:18:00] concerns do you agree with that [00:18:04] I definitely agree uh [00:18:07] It's it's a chid must trade also with lot of caution because [00:18:11] this is a country that has had dominance for [00:18:15] over 65 years and of course just less than two years [00:18:19] ago I can say they were you [00:18:21] know the relationship was saved so when they are coming in with the new arrangement of course the [00:18:25] first question should be asking ourselves that why are they accepting this you [00:18:28] know why would they really accept this is there something [00:18:32] that chad the west african countries need to look [00:18:36] into but again on the other deep side, you know, if you sent me [00:18:39] out of your country and now you are inviting me under your on your own [00:18:43] terms and still you agree to come that means that it's [00:18:47] a signal that France also has [00:18:50] lot uh to benefit from from [00:18:54] you having their presence in in in [00:18:57] in in the west african countries or just in west africa and i think char is france is looking [00:19:01] at it from i can say strategic adaptation part of point of [00:19:05] view because if "if let's say [00:19:09] there is a feeling that they're turning back [00:19:13] to the old model, then I still believe the current president, the way he [00:19:16] did, he can still save the relationship again, so it it's both [00:19:20] caution both on the chat government side or the chard side, the also front [00:19:24] side, and I hope that in this new arrangement [00:19:28] Chad will still have a full say, and if they feel like [00:19:32] relationship is not mutually beneficial, they should [00:19:35] be ready to..." so [00:19:37] you now cut the ties again [00:19:39] uh of course on the on the other side of chad you also seen they [00:19:43] have tried to look for relationship from you [00:19:46] the uae they have tried to look through the Turkey and and and [00:19:50] Russia uh but we agree that [00:19:53] security issues sometimes are not just [00:19:56] ideologically should be from the lens of [00:20:00] ideology we also looking at the capability point of view and now that France [00:20:04] has historical knowledge of of course operating working [00:20:08] with the chard military uh and of course also the intelligence of France [00:20:12] in terms of military has been celebrated you for a while. i [00:20:15] think it's also in the best interest the chat government to really [00:20:19] you know reinvite them, but of course on on [00:20:23] this, i can say new arrangement which should be 100% [00:20:27] beneficial to the chat people. what is what is also [00:20:31] a very skillful attempt by charge to [00:20:35] redefine this relationship and now? make it a partnership of [00:20:39] equals? yes, [00:20:43] yes, yes, uh, it's it's it's a, i can say it's it's [00:20:46] a a good and a positive. [00:20:50] gesture on how African countries should actually [00:20:53] relate to [00:20:57] uh the former colonizers, [00:20:59] you know, you are coming in not as a bully or someone [00:21:03] who or an unequal partner that you're coming in as [00:21:07] kind of relationship that should benefit both of us, of course I'm [00:21:11] not proud to say that you know child could not look within [00:21:14] Africa to get support because that should be the case, but it also shows [00:21:18] that African Union or... should also redefine the [00:21:22] principles that govern external military so that any [00:21:25] arrangement that any African countries getting into with an [00:21:29] external military partner should be something that is [00:21:33] benefit to beneficial to the Africans [00:21:36] themselves, if Africa or African Union had [00:21:40] capacity to maintain [00:21:44] peace and stability in African, I don't think Chard would have [00:21:47] looked west [00:21:49] or or east. "they would have redefined and looked a way in which African [00:21:53] can protect themselves, but now if you look at African continent, [00:21:56] it is in chaos, whether you look at Somalia, whether you look at DRC [00:22:00] Congo, whether you look at it from from from from from [00:22:03] Ethiopia, it is just in in case, and and of course internally even [00:22:07] Africans now are fighting against fellow Africans, look at South Africa and all that, [00:22:11] so security the citizens matter and [00:22:15] intelligence the entire and having the knowledge the [00:22:18] operation the country." really really indeed, if you ask [00:22:22] me, whether we are getting help from east or west, what is [00:22:26] important is the life of our people and security the nation, you [00:22:29] charles, let me just comment because I was going to ask you if you [00:22:33] think that the other uh Sahel states does um uh burkina [00:22:37] Faso, Mali and Ninger would follow suit and perhaps also redefine their [00:22:40] relations with with France, but just because you [00:22:44] mentioned Africa and its defense um strategy and [00:22:48] defense spending, I mean it... i want to sort of pivot to [00:22:51] that, um, if it's time we start to invest in our own [00:22:55] defense, when you look at also consider what's happening between Europe and America, [00:22:59] um, if it's time we start investing now in defense and stop looking to the west or the [00:23:02] east, absolutely, we need to [00:23:06] work on our own defense, it is, it is, it is [00:23:10] quite uh, i can say sad that we chad is [00:23:13] still is still going to be [00:23:15] you know trained by France, [00:23:17] you know, [00:23:18] you know, it's funny, so... why can't Africa [00:23:22] just look for a way in which they can train their own military [00:23:25] personnel because I'll train you based on how [00:23:28] I fight my war so that means that you do not have any [00:23:32] other skill to defend yourself other than the ones that you've been given it's like I'm [00:23:36] giving you the new language to to speak so you can't really speak to any other [00:23:40] person so it's high time but but of course if you look at the [00:23:44] the African countries themselves even the battle they're currently fighting internal [00:23:48] battles first if you look at what's happening in the the DRC, if you look at [00:23:52] what's happening in Ethiopia and all that, even fighting their own battles [00:23:56] alone is a challenge, the west african countries of course you [00:23:59] know threats from everywhere, so we have the external [00:24:03] threats that now needs a lot of military [00:24:07] intelligence and training, then of course we also have the internal trend, so it is high time I agree [00:24:11] with you that even uh the the budgets for military [00:24:14] should be increased, but the question is who is going to train them, which African [00:24:18] country or which African troop is really capable [00:24:22] of of [00:24:23] of offering such a training, so it is a great, it's a big deficit, [00:24:27] and I'm not so sure if this is something that African Union is really keen or [00:24:31] looking into, I mean so many defense partnerships and [00:24:35] cooperation across the continent, it perhaps just leaves the content continent [00:24:39] vulnerable, because it almost feels like we do not have our own [00:24:43] intelligence that is kept private without the west the east [00:24:46] knowing exactly what we're doing, but we're following up with that development. 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