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[00:00:55] headlines, i am Nife me Oguntoye, as they countdown
[00:00:59] me continues now, ahead of 2027 uh general
[00:01:02] elections, there are quite a number of things that we are
[00:01:06] seeing play out, you can also tell that
[00:01:09] Nigeria's map is being redrawn almost every day,
[00:01:13] politicians who wants stood on opposite sides
[00:01:15] of the divide are finding new allies, old rivers are
[00:01:19] of embracing and yesterday's impossible alliances are
[00:01:23] of becoming today's political reality, just days after the
[00:01:27] only northern senator elected on the platform. the
[00:01:30] NDC, um, on the platform
[00:01:32] of the NDC, rather, uh, Senator Rufay hanger dumped the
[00:01:36] opposition to return to the
[00:01:38] of APC, attention has shifted this evening to River State,
[00:01:42] where perhaps one
[00:01:43] of the country's most beta political fields appears to be given
[00:01:47] way to an uneasy truth, governor Fubara, who
[00:01:51] spent nearly two years locked in intense political batty with this
[00:01:54] predecessor and current FCT minister Yason wike
[00:01:58] as
[00:01:59] of publicly embraced reconciliation
[00:02:02] following uh that
[00:02:04] of intervention we saw earlier on and this exactly what he had to say to his
[00:02:08] followers, we have made peace in
[00:02:12] the
[00:02:13] me states and we have total and i
[00:02:17] am supporting our
[00:02:19] of rainbow me party or rainbow
[00:02:22] coalition,
[00:02:24] me presidentego is our
[00:02:28] president and is a world we are supporting, okay
[00:02:32] chinder is a governorship candidate that i am supported and
[00:02:36] anybody who believes in
[00:02:37] a me will
[00:02:38] of supports and every candidate that is under the rainbow for those
[00:02:42] of you who are saying for hey let's stay we want to collect
[00:02:46] something before we run there's nothing to collect
[00:02:50] oh i am already in the family i've got back to our
[00:02:54] family so please wherever you are give
[00:02:58] of your total support to that
[00:03:00] coalition, but perhaps even more
[00:03:03] surprising is tonight's guest, for the past two years, he was
[00:03:07] one of governor Fubara's loudest and most uncompromising
[00:03:11] defenders. on this program, he repeatedly accused
[00:03:15] week's camp of trying to destabilize river state,
[00:03:19] insisted that governor fubora
[00:03:21] of could never betray the people. now tonight
[00:03:23] that same man has announced, he's joining the rainbow
[00:03:27] coalition, the very political... platform that
[00:03:31] he wants criticized and that is aligned with the ASM Wiki and it says it
[00:03:35] will work for all its candidates ahead of
[00:03:38] 2027. is this genuine
[00:03:40] reconciliation or political opportunism or simply
[00:03:44] another example of Nigeria's ever changing political calculations
[00:03:48] and that's our conversation tonight and it's happened right after this break. stay
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[00:12:04] Thank you for staying with us everyone, joining me tonight is the former caretaker
[00:12:08] chairman of Obiako local government area in River
[00:12:12] State, ambassador Chijo K uh, thank you so much
[00:12:16] for joining us on the program, ambassador, you've been on this show
[00:12:20] twice in the past two years and as one of um
[00:12:23] governor Fubara's CSS defenders against the
[00:12:27] FCT minister today, I hear that you are
[00:12:30] supporting the rainbow coalition align with here some wicky, what
[00:12:34] exactly
[00:12:35] changed?
[00:12:40] Okay, um, you are aware that my
[00:12:43] principal is the governor
[00:12:46] of university, and he has said there is
[00:12:50] peace in university and that we need to move as a
[00:12:53] state. that uh, if we truly support him, we
[00:12:57] should join him to the real coalition, so we are joining the
[00:13:01] governor, who is our leader and my principal to rainbow
[00:13:05] coalition, that is what we are doing for peace to rain
[00:13:09] in our states, we are supporting our governor because we want peace in
[00:13:13] our state, because he is our leader
[00:13:16] and we are going to follow him wherever he goes to, he has told
[00:13:19] us, if you love me genuinely follow me to whever i'm going
[00:13:23] to, so we following the governor to where... going to that is where we are as Saturday river
[00:13:27] state. in his recent interview, the FCC
[00:13:31] minister said governor Fubara became the biggest
[00:13:34] loser in this crisis because he listened to wrong advisors
[00:13:38] who encouraged him to fight instead of reconcile,
[00:13:42] and that was what cost him the chance of second term. you were one the
[00:13:46] governor's closest political allies throughout
[00:13:50] that crisis. do you acknowledge tonight that you and others
[00:13:54] around him gave him bad political advice
[00:13:58] that deepen the
[00:13:59] crisis,
[00:14:03] well that is not true, that information is not true,
[00:14:07] like tell people have a personal relationship with the governor, became the
[00:14:11] governor reversity, everybody is aware, we
[00:14:14] participated when he was given the candidates of
[00:14:18] people's democratic party to run for the office the governor,
[00:14:22] then i was leader and reversed it, we mobilized
[00:14:24] you reversed. so look, we have seen a man that has conscience because i have met
[00:14:28] with him, i've dealt with him before now, let the youth come out and let us
[00:14:31] support the governor, and the governor was
[00:14:35] elected and he became the governor university, lot of things was
[00:14:38] happening before the crisis started,
[00:14:42] so you don't expect a man who has
[00:14:44] relationship with him, then i will not abandon him, let
[00:14:48] tell you, i have a force in this state
[00:14:52] whether i like it or not, because i command the young people as at that
[00:14:56] time even till now so I have
[00:14:58] no option that to support the governor because I know he was doing the right thing so
[00:15:02] for me nobody is loser nobody is a winner we are back to where
[00:15:06] we are because this state belongs to all of us and the governor wants to to the land of peace fact i've
[00:15:10] never seen anybody in this country that like his
[00:15:14] excellency sirbara the governor is a
[00:15:17] man I love peace is a man that has conscience so for me
[00:15:21] nobody decives the governor we are still with the governor till tomorrow I
[00:15:25] tell you, I am standing with governor, he has told me,
[00:15:29] look, and all of us who believes his
[00:15:31] ideology, let us
[00:15:34] see this word and let us move forward and support the rainbow coalition.
[00:15:37] your that position is why we are following his footstep and say look i
[00:15:41] hear you clearly and but
[00:15:42] i i'm understand just wondering hold
[00:15:45] on so it will be it will be it will be uh it will be a
[00:15:48] disrespect okay to the officer when your principal will tell you
[00:15:52] the chairman made me elected chairman give instruction i will say
[00:15:56] i will follow i am following the instruction the governor to the later i understand that you're
[00:16:00] following mr governor's instruction but where does that leave you in
[00:16:03] principle because in our previous interviews you
[00:16:06] repeatedly at accused wicky's camp of trying
[00:16:09] to own rivers state, you said rivers people had rejected
[00:16:13] them and even insisted nobody could force governor Fubara
[00:16:17] to surrender the state's future, today you're joining
[00:16:21] the same political family, were you wrong then or you are wrong
[00:16:24] now? my
[00:16:28] brother, let me let tell you um in politics anything
[00:16:32] happen in politics, like i said i have a principal who i am working with, i said
[00:16:36] look let us word and move
[00:16:39] forward, so you don't expect me
[00:16:42] uh to start fighting, say look, we are all from river
[00:16:46] states, let us go back to our political family, all of
[00:16:50] us were there before now, before this crisis came up, so somebody can tell
[00:16:54] me that i know what i'm doing and i'm a responsible man and i know
[00:16:58] what the good and the r, but look, if you love me,
[00:17:01] genuinely follow me, and i love the governor, everybody knows
[00:17:05] that, you can tell doing the crisis, you explained because i love
[00:17:09] food and
[00:17:09] i love her state so he has said look shift and let us move forward
[00:17:13] so what has happened before is the past we are not moving forward
[00:17:16] because we want this in our state and that is why we are doing the line of our governor so look
[00:17:20] follow me if you love me that is why we are doing that so again
[00:17:24] want our st to be very peaceful people can go and do their business i
[00:17:27] understand your love for mr governor but i'm talking about the principle of
[00:17:31] your position mean the your love for mr governor can't be
[00:17:35] at the expense the entire these were the same people you
[00:17:39] said were not interested in the future the state that
[00:17:43] they wanted to hijack it, have you suddenly have the suddenly
[00:17:46] changed that you now believe that they can
[00:17:50] steer the state to the right course and make it
[00:17:54] prosperous again, i'm talking about the principle the matter now, have i
[00:17:58] have told have told you that they are making the st to move forward, i am only telling
[00:18:02] you that i a call loyalist of and he
[00:18:06] has told me look, let us move forward and forget about the
[00:18:09] past, so we to talk about the past to bring it
[00:18:13] to the president, say look, forget about those things that
[00:18:16] happened, if you love me genuinely, i am not the governor, if your
[00:18:20] principal should tell
[00:18:21] you look, forget about all has happened, move forward, so i
[00:18:24] think we forget about that, we moving forward, so
[00:18:28] let's forget about the past and let the line of peace, that is why we are today,
[00:18:32] well talking about forgetting the past, the river state chairman
[00:18:35] the national youth, uh council
[00:18:39] says if your conversion to the rabal coalition is
[00:18:42] real or genuine that you should publicly
[00:18:45] apologize to three people e
[00:18:48] listed right honorable
[00:18:51] chinda and of course the river state house of assembly he
[00:18:55] said for statements and actions um during the
[00:18:59] crisis will you
[00:19:01] apologize
[00:19:06] talking about the chairman? we only have one chairman of you council
[00:19:09] uh is the chairman of you council the person talking about
[00:19:13] is an imposter he has been part of you council when i was
[00:19:16] council and today he's talking about youth we have left
[00:19:20] mainstream politics in university not talking about youth council i don't know him
[00:19:24] if
[00:19:24] it were issued
[00:19:26] that k of statement think i can begin to respond only have one chairman of
[00:19:29] counsel is the chairman the national of state the
[00:19:33] other person is
[00:19:34] not existing i also know before now he was he has been following me
[00:19:38] around when i was chcel, i'm done with you, i'm talking
[00:19:42] about moving forward as a man, so the person talking about that, i don't
[00:19:46] know to me, so i can't answer that kind of question,
[00:19:49] interestingly he has accused you and former chief of uh chief of staff
[00:19:53] edition a of sponsoring a parallel youth council
[00:19:57] structure that according to him as wicking the recognized
[00:20:01] uh NYCN leadership during the political crisis
[00:20:05] um when you talk about peace and we keep
[00:20:09] hearing factions and differences in this
[00:20:12] regard, how much of peace really do we have in river state
[00:20:16] today?
[00:20:20] well, like I said before he said the
[00:20:24] person the person is unknown to me talking about functionalizing you groups in rev state, it's
[00:20:28] not true, we have a functional you council led by comment
[00:20:32] who is from leader
[00:20:34] the the reversed, I think he did perfectly well.
[00:20:37] here, or so somebody coming to issue a statement that I and the Edison are
[00:20:40] fashionizing Council University, it's wrong, it's
[00:20:44] he's there not, neither we don't know that is unknown to me as far
[00:20:47] as I'm concerned, we have. we have had our governor who's our principal
[00:20:51] say look let us move forward
[00:20:54] we want peace in our states
[00:20:55] want our state to move for so that is that is the line what
[00:20:59] as his supporters and those who believe in the ideology
[00:21:03] of the governor of states
[00:21:07] let's talk about the allegations that you led supporters to the
[00:21:10] residence where the 27 lawmakers were
[00:21:13] meeting and created a situation that endangered the
[00:21:17] legislators do you accept any responsibility? for
[00:21:21] escalating tensions during that period, please,
[00:21:23] I don't get the volume is too,
[00:21:25] I can't, I can't hear what you're saying, please, I'm talking about the allegations that you led
[00:21:28] supporters to the residence the law
[00:21:30] makers, uh, and they said that created a
[00:21:34] situation that endangered the legislators, do you
[00:21:38] any way accept responsibility for
[00:21:42] escalating intentions during that
[00:21:44] period, was my
[00:21:48] brother, listen to me, that was... you see when we talk about uh we talk
[00:21:52] about peace we don't begin to bring pasters we have passed this uh uh
[00:21:56] this this this question asking me you also aware a lot of things happened during
[00:22:00] that period so i think for me
[00:22:02] i have forgotten the past and we are moving forward what happened was during the crisis i would not need
[00:22:05] to begin to talk about what has happened before now so that
[00:22:09] people don't get angry so we are moving forward as a state
[00:22:13] and like tell you people like us have moved forward because the
[00:22:17] govern say look if you love me follow me - but have said no, but because we
[00:22:21] love the governor genuinely, that is why we are following him, most of us who
[00:22:24] are with the governor left to other political parties to run election, so you don't
[00:22:28] expect me to leave my principal who has said this is the made you to be council
[00:22:32] chairman, who made you to be chical committee chairman and you're leaving to join
[00:22:36] opposition, we said no, we are going to follow him since he
[00:22:40] wants peace since i say look follow me, so what has happened in the
[00:22:43] past should be the past, we're talking about the present and how the state will move
[00:22:47] forward, thank you, i like your forward thinking men
[00:22:49] reality, but humans, it doesn't work for
[00:22:53] humans, for many people like that, you just don't wipe out completely the
[00:22:57] memory of what has happened in riversed, especially for journalists who
[00:23:01] cover that story day and night, but let ask you this
[00:23:04] personally, is there anything you regret about your
[00:23:08] conduct during the river state
[00:23:10] crisis?
[00:23:13] well, let tell you, frankly
[00:23:16] speaking, do not regret anything. don't get
[00:23:20] anything, did not, what i did i supposed to do it
[00:23:28] offence then i was leader states and the question were asking what is the the governor, they want to be impeached, that is why you are
[00:23:32] say no, we allow that to happen in our states and
[00:23:36] just stay two months in office i want to be removed,
[00:23:39] so like told before we are moving forward and we
[00:23:43] believe that space in our states and i want to join all of my friends
[00:23:47] who are key supporters to sil Bara to th the line of
[00:23:51] peace and let us support him, you have mentioned governor
[00:23:55] Fubara a couple of times during this conversation, are you ready now to
[00:23:58] work with some wike because
[00:24:02] apparently is the one leading the rainbow coalition? Are you
[00:24:06] ready to work with him and his men ahead of
[00:24:08] 2027?
[00:24:11] Well, I've told
[00:24:14] you before he said I keep on mentioning my principal, you also played when you
[00:24:17] started your program where he say look. that we are moving forward, he
[00:24:21] has joined the political family, the r coalition,
[00:24:25] that was following genuinyly should also follow, so whatever my
[00:24:29] principal does,
[00:24:30] that's what i'm going to do, so have any option to say to work
[00:24:33] together to ensure that all the members of coalition will be elected
[00:24:37] including mr president, said me to be a descending voice when
[00:24:41] your principal remember made you from chairman,
[00:24:45] chairman and say you want to be disrespect to his office, whatever the
[00:24:48] governor say that is
[00:24:49] what i'm going to do "but
[00:24:51] you know what I'm talking about, you're from Obiako, where many of Wick supporters are from, and
[00:24:55] the speaker supporters, are you going to
[00:24:59] be working with their men ahead the
[00:25:02] forthcoming election, and just how do you intend to do that,
[00:25:06] given the kind of animosity we've reported between you both in the
[00:25:09] past? what's your strategy? well,
[00:25:13] um, my leader has given instruction that we must
[00:25:17] work to ensure that the coalition" secures victory
[00:25:20] revers it, i'll go back to my local government at the time
[00:25:23] of my leader to also do that, he is directing, he has told us what to
[00:25:27] do and we are going to do that, so you are not
[00:25:30] from
[00:25:32] local government, my local government, so we not ourselves politically, so we're going to
[00:25:36] resolve our matter within us, all right, we're looking forward to that
[00:25:40] and it will be an interesting watch as we count down to uh the
[00:25:44] 2027 election ambassador, when you when you appeared on this
[00:25:47] program last year over um allegations, i think it
[00:25:51] was over allegations of um assembly
[00:25:55] fire, i remember you told me that you are not
[00:25:59] a man that betrays your critic.
[00:26:03] now say you've betrayed your own principle of
[00:26:07] joining someone you claimed wanted to make rivers is
[00:26:11] private uh property. before we go tonight,
[00:26:15] why should Nigerians take you seriously going
[00:26:16] forward? uh, let
[00:26:20] tell you something, I'm a very serious mind person and I have
[00:26:24] questions, if you're following a man and the man say,
[00:26:27] look, you are here because you're following
[00:26:30] me, you
[00:26:32] are here because... because you love me, you're here because you supported me, and
[00:26:35] please, can we now make peace, can we now move the st
[00:26:39] forward? you don't say he don't, he don't expect me to follow my principal because he want
[00:26:42] peace, so if i start making crisis, who will i fall back to,
[00:26:46] i the governor of river states, i have a leader, i have a principal and
[00:26:50] i'm not betrayed him, we are still working together, i
[00:26:53] has given instruction, the instruction is look, we must come back to our
[00:26:57] family, let there be peace in our state, so that is where we
[00:27:01] stand, have you seen anywhere? close to any of those
[00:27:04] persons um like the speaker is from my place
[00:27:08] to him person because my principal say look we are working together as
[00:27:12] team let us walk together and i'm following his footstep to say
[00:27:16] look let there be peace
[00:27:17] in our st so me to start fighting i starting more crisis when i
[00:27:21] have a leader that i'm working with instructions i mus obey the
[00:27:25] instruction the governor who is my direct principle i
[00:27:28] say if you love me genuinely please peace
[00:27:32] today in our states, you must follow whatever i'm saying, i have no
[00:27:35] option that to follow him so that we peace in our states,
[00:27:39] because
[00:27:39] we have, we don't want crisis anymore,
[00:27:42] so you don't, like i said before, when your principal gives order, he say he bring a
[00:27:45] descending voice,
[00:27:47] it amount
[00:27:47] to disrespect to his office at the governor of river state, the governor say look, follow
[00:27:50] me if you love me j,
[00:27:52] what i'm doing is not it anybody, i am following the governor because he
[00:27:56] was the made me known to the public today
[00:28:00] as form so
[00:28:03] it's a pr i can't take for granted whatever he directs me to do that
[00:28:06] is what i do he has said follow me and i'm following him the way he has directed so it
[00:28:10] sounds like um you're doing this against your will just
[00:28:14] because the governor said so if the governor wakes up tomorrow and say let's
[00:28:17] resume my way let tell you something if you want peace if you want
[00:28:21] peace you must told the line of peace the gover is a man of peace and i said look
[00:28:25] for us to be peaceful in our states all of this political
[00:28:29] crisis can you please let us move together as
[00:28:33] team and that is
[00:28:35] what i did and everybody has follow suit, those are not with us are in
[00:28:38] different party, i have the capacity
[00:28:40] to go to another party and pick from to run an election, but i'm not interested, because
[00:28:44] do that they will say gover is funding me,
[00:28:47] my life to his excellency the governor
[00:28:49] of university and that is why i'm still here, i'm sitting here today, i'll follow him to the letter, whatever
[00:28:53] ask me to do
[00:28:55] i don't mind this critice of anybody who wants to say anything because he's my
[00:28:58] principal, i can go to adc, i can go to NDP, i can go to anywhere and pick
[00:29:01] ticket
[00:29:02] to run election
[00:29:02] but I'm not interested because that will be amounting to causing more crisis for my
[00:29:06] principle so I'm
[00:29:07] not ally with him whatever he said so that is what I'm doing good place to leave
[00:29:11] it chairman local government area
[00:29:13] ambassador ch thank you for your insight on the program
[00:29:17] tonight thank you we wish you
[00:29:21] all the best that's a show everyone remember you can watch it again at midnight and
[00:29:25] 6 am tomorrow I am
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[00:29:32] fammy.
[00:29:41] In Biggy's house, there's no place to hide, and even
[00:29:45] when you think no one is watching, the energy can
[00:29:49] swing in instant, this BB Night Just Season
[00:29:52] 11, everything burns
[00:29:54] brighter, only the biggest
[00:29:58] moves tip the scale, because nothing is
[00:30:01] given. but everything is for the taken
[00:30:05] when the world watches, will you be
[00:30:08] outshined or will you step up and take the
[00:30:12] spotlight? big brother night jack
[00:30:16] season 11 starts Sunday July 26th,
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