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[00:00:01] of
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[00:00:38] in Mumbai
[00:00:42] here at the swara plains conservancy
[00:00:46] in Machacos County here in the Republic of Kenya here in the
[00:00:50] in continent of Africa and our discussions on Africa continue
[00:00:53] today we look at
[00:00:55] of Mali. Mali is a name
[00:00:59] and and a country that
[00:01:03] of has a long history, many people do not
[00:01:06] know that at one time it was actually called the French Sudan,
[00:01:10] but
[00:01:11] in the name that we know it by is derived from the
[00:01:14] old Mari empire, and we want to look at contemporary
[00:01:18] issues, but in the context
[00:01:22] of of a little history so that we understand what is happening
[00:01:25] now, when Mali gained her
[00:01:29] in independence, in 1960 with Modibo
[00:01:33] of Keita as the first president. Modibo
[00:01:37] of was socialist in orientation and during the
[00:01:41] entire period that
[00:01:43] of he governed from 1960 through to
[00:01:46] 1968, his
[00:01:49] country
[00:01:50] of did suffer quite a bit, remembering at
[00:01:53] a one time that he was seen to be
[00:01:57] of anti-france, which was the former colonizer. "and
[00:02:00] secondly,
[00:02:02] of that it is a large country with very
[00:02:07] of diverse kind of population with the northern part being
[00:02:10] peopled by the nomadic tuarigs and arabs
[00:02:14] and the
[00:02:16] of lower part of Mali with quite a number of
[00:02:19] ethnicities which are, if
[00:02:22] of you may of
[00:02:26] in of negroid blood, and the economy suffered, of course there was massive mining in that part
[00:02:29] of the world, uranium. and other minerals
[00:02:31] of and in 1968
[00:02:35] modibo was removed via kudit
[00:02:38] and Musa
[00:02:39] of Traore who then came as the president of Mali
[00:02:43] and governed for very long time of a period of nearly
[00:02:47] 23 years really
[00:02:50] was in many ways
[00:02:52] a clant
[00:02:53] of the French and one begins to see
[00:02:56] even in those early days the agitation.
[00:03:00] so that when
[00:03:01] of tomani ture comes
[00:03:04] in and there is attempted coup
[00:03:08] in 2012, then there is insurgency, that
[00:03:12] is the beginning
[00:03:13] of the insurgency that remains alive in
[00:03:17] mali today, and the creation
[00:03:21] of what is known as the
[00:03:23] of other word liberation movement, the other word liberation
[00:03:27] movement comprising largely the tur
[00:03:30] population says we want to create our own
[00:03:34] country and that is
[00:03:35] the basis on which they start these agitation and of course they
[00:03:39] catch Mari its point of weakness in the coup in the year
[00:03:43] 2012 and at that time one also sees the
[00:03:47] emergence of al-qaeda, the al-qaeda
[00:03:51] is active in the middle
[00:03:53] of east, but they are
[00:03:55] a copycut organization that are faithful to the agenda of
[00:03:59] al-qaida. "and they two move into
[00:04:03] this space and combine their efforts
[00:04:05] with the trings and the other word movement then takes place. Of
[00:04:09] course, there is a period during
[00:04:11] in which one can say there is democracy with President Ali Konare,
[00:04:15] and after that in the
[00:04:17] of year 2020 and the year
[00:04:20] of 2021, to cous in quick succession with
[00:04:24] a simi goita being at the center of it all, and when a Simi
[00:04:28] gets into power, it must..." be understood that that is the
[00:04:31] beginning
[00:04:32] of the wave
[00:04:33] of the sahalian ko deters, so that Mali Cou,
[00:04:37] as we already know, Niger Ku, as we already know, Bukinaku, as we
[00:04:41] already know, Guiine, Konak, as we already know, and the
[00:04:45] insurgence increases and the French are at the heart
[00:04:48] of this, the French are at the
[00:04:50] of heart of it because they see Mari as a priced
[00:04:54] position where you can get your uranium for a song,
[00:04:58] and when the... Sahalian
[00:05:01] countries begin to move away
[00:05:05] from France, they say number one, we don't
[00:05:08] want your army
[00:05:10] of to be present in Mali. "the French are told to
[00:05:14] pack and go, they are told you are mining
[00:05:17] companies, we are not interested in them, we are going to
[00:05:20] negotiate other contracts at that time, and the Russian
[00:05:24] African core is one that must be understood in the
[00:05:28] context the activities that are taking place in that
[00:05:31] area, so that when the Russian administration now takes charge
[00:05:35] and is beginning to offer its assistance to the
[00:05:39] sahalians and in Mali, it must be understood and..." "and
[00:05:43] sometimes, I think it is important to point
[00:05:46] out why Russia sometimes appears to be
[00:05:50] preferred a number of African countries for historical
[00:05:53] reasons, and this history can be understood in this
[00:05:56] way, Russia was never a
[00:05:58] colonizer, and for that
[00:06:01] it is given the benefit of doubt. Russia, as we
[00:06:05] know it, having been a part the Soviet
[00:06:09] Union, was seen as a supporter of..." the struggle
[00:06:13] for independence in those early days, so that the
[00:06:16] most socialist inclined leaders at that time
[00:06:20] gravitated towards the the Soviet Union
[00:06:24] then and Russia now, and Modibo Keita,
[00:06:28] who was the first president of Mali, was seen in
[00:06:32] that mold, and many the leaders that we now find
[00:06:36] like Asasimi Goita are also
[00:06:39] gravitating towards Russia. because it
[00:06:43] is a counterweight to what are seen
[00:06:46] as the parasitic tendencies the former
[00:06:50] colonizer, conforma colonizer france who
[00:06:54] has been mining in that area for
[00:06:58] many years, who have been taking the resources of that
[00:07:02] country for many years without returning
[00:07:06] anything that actually helped the economy, and
[00:07:09] indeed for those of us who are familiar with what is happening in
[00:07:13] Mali, you go to Bamaco, you think Bamaco could be
[00:07:17] better in terms of provision of electricity, you go to other
[00:07:21] parts, you see that it could be much better that they could get
[00:07:25] lot more, so this presence the
[00:07:29] Russians at this particular point is very
[00:07:32] significant, because it is not said as loudly as it
[00:07:36] should, perhaps that the French having
[00:07:39] been expelled - to be
[00:07:43] offering some tasset support to the
[00:07:47] secessionist groups, particularly in the
[00:07:50] other word, and it is the
[00:07:54] Russians who have been in the forefront of number one
[00:07:57] training the Maleian forces, and when you are training the
[00:08:01] Malaian forces, it means a number of things that first of all,
[00:08:05] you are dealing with individuals who are trained in France,
[00:08:09] so there is an element in which they must be made. to
[00:08:12] unlearn some the things that they learned during the
[00:08:16] French. Number two, you are also training a force
[00:08:20] where there is no shortage of fifth columnists who would want to
[00:08:23] undermine the regime. Three, you are also training
[00:08:27] an environment where there is active
[00:08:31] rebellion, and we have seen therefore that in the recent
[00:08:34] past it is the Russians who have offered logistics,
[00:08:38] it is the Russians who have offered equipment, it is the Russians who
[00:08:42] have... showed that there is buffer between the
[00:08:45] tuaregs and the Arabs from the north who a number of
[00:08:49] occasions have actually briched the security
[00:08:52] cordons and even attacked Bamako
[00:08:56] itself and compromising security, so when
[00:09:00] one sees it in that regard, one sees
[00:09:04] that the presence the Russians is changing the
[00:09:08] equation a number of levels and these are
[00:09:12] the levels. number one: stability:
[00:09:15] stability requires among other things that you have the
[00:09:18] ability to fend off, forces which are being
[00:09:22] supported from outside, and the African
[00:09:26] core, which is the Russian African core is
[00:09:30] helping in the stabilization the
[00:09:33] northern parts of Mali. remember that
[00:09:37] when the French left, the malian
[00:09:41] army was pre dominantly being supplied from
[00:09:44] France, and when the French were
[00:09:48] expelled and therefore left, that particular
[00:09:52] supply chain was cut with the
[00:09:55] consequence that you can no longer equip your army in the
[00:09:59] manner that you desire, and this gap has been
[00:10:03] filled by the African core, which is now being
[00:10:07] equipped by the Russian Federation, and in this regard
[00:10:10] is offering security. in different parts of Mali, and
[00:10:14] Mali is an expansive country,
[00:10:18] and it is not only expansive, it is at the very
[00:10:22] heart the Sahara desert, and that tells you, that the
[00:10:25] terrain is also one that is not easy
[00:10:29] to deal with. the third thing is that we are also
[00:10:33] dealing with a government whose
[00:10:36] resources have been undermined. remember that Mali, like
[00:10:40] most Sahalian states had their economies being controlled from
[00:10:44] Paris, so in terms of funding this military
[00:10:47] operation, the African core has also created an
[00:10:51] opportunity where you can have alternative sourcing.
[00:10:55] and of course the other thing, the fourth one, if that
[00:10:59] is the correct ordering, is that for a long
[00:11:03] time the minds, particularly of
[00:11:06] uranium were being exploited by french
[00:11:09] companies, most of which were not remitting money in
[00:11:13] the proper manner, and the African core is
[00:11:17] now providing necessary security, and it is
[00:11:21] giving the manyan administration the power to negotiate.
[00:11:25] because the whole idea with the
[00:11:29] relationship between Russia and these countries is that
[00:11:33] it ought to be trade rather than aid, and that
[00:11:36] very much depends on how countries in Africa also defined
[00:11:40] their agenda, so one sees in what one sees in the
[00:11:44] African core is a stabilizing force, of course
[00:11:48] the detractors will see and say that what
[00:11:52] is the difference, you are simply exchanging... France for Russia
[00:11:55] it
[00:11:56] is not anything different
[00:11:58] and really it is in the best
[00:12:01] interest of Mali and indeed any other
[00:12:05] country to define what they need. There are certain
[00:12:09] things that the African core can do which Mali does not have
[00:12:13] the capacity to do
[00:12:14] and it
[00:12:14] is in the interest of Mali therefore and when I listen to
[00:12:18] simi goita a number of occasions he is creating the
[00:12:22] impression which impression I think is useful. and which
[00:12:25] impression I think must be backed by action that this
[00:12:29] relationship between us and the African core is one
[00:12:32] that is defined by certain clear agenda items
[00:12:36] and they are not here to stay forever once they have fulfilled
[00:12:40] what we desire and we have the capacity then we will remain
[00:12:44] friends but they will go back so that to me is the
[00:12:47] value the African core and its present
[00:12:51] activities in the Republic of Mali and under the
[00:12:55] administration of Asimi Goita, which is struggling with
[00:12:59] insurgency, which insurgency it is being
[00:13:03] alleged without any evidence so far that is
[00:13:06] being financed by a multiple sources,
[00:13:10] possibly including even the former colonizer, but it
[00:13:14] is a situation that remains very fragile, and the
[00:13:17] African core, I believe is playing a
[00:13:21] useful role as indeed acknowledged. by the
[00:13:25] Malaian administration, ladies and gentlemen,
[00:13:29] we continue our conversations regarding the continent of
[00:13:32] Africa, but as you know, we continue this
[00:13:36] conversation in the knowledge that it can never be exhausted,
[00:13:39] but we will see you again, welcome when we come
[00:13:43] next, thank you very
[00:13:44] much.
[00:14:01] I am Pierod Mumbai here at the Suara Plains
[00:14:05] conservancy in Machacos County here in
[00:14:09] the Republic of Kenya in the continent of Africa and
[00:14:13] we today focus on what is as
[00:14:16] contemporary as contemporary can't be but from
[00:14:20] different perspective. You know
[00:14:23] Africa continues. to play its
[00:14:26] role, it has been described variously as the
[00:14:30] third world, developing world, and in this
[00:14:34] context she finds herself a situation
[00:14:37] where she is interacting with different economies and
[00:14:41] civilization, and one them of course today
[00:14:44] is the bricks or the Russian
[00:14:47] federation within bricks, the Chinese, the Indians and
[00:14:51] the Brazilians, and is in this context that I also... also
[00:14:55] mention the St. Petersburg International
[00:14:59] Economic Forum, the St. Petersburg,
[00:15:03] first convened, if my memory serves me well, in the year
[00:15:07] 1997, and it
[00:15:11] is in many ways a counterweight to
[00:15:15] some the activities that have dogged the continent of
[00:15:19] Africa and the global south. It must be
[00:15:21] remembered that the global south as in
[00:15:25] many ways been dominated by the
[00:15:29] conceptual west, particularly through the
[00:15:32] institutions such as the international monetary
[00:15:36] fund and the world. bank and of course the WTO
[00:15:39] sometimes referred to broadly as the Bretton
[00:15:43] Woods institution and there is a book that is worth
[00:15:47] reading in this regard when we talk about the domination the
[00:15:50] global south by the north, it is a
[00:15:54] book called the bad samaritans by South Korea's Hajon Chang
[00:15:58] as in did the book by Zambia's
[00:16:01] dambisamoyo which is about aid
[00:16:05] dead aid so what is the issue, it used to be
[00:16:09] said and is still said that when western Europe and
[00:16:12] America sneezes, African
[00:16:15] countries goingto a comma, literally so, and that
[00:16:19] is because the World Bank and the IMF
[00:16:23] are the primary lenders and they lend
[00:16:27] you a manner that ensures that you are
[00:16:31] constantly under their back and call, so when
[00:16:35] these initiatives such as "the one that
[00:16:38] started in St. Petersburg, and we have seen
[00:16:42] activities in India, in Brazil and in
[00:16:46] China, the whole idea is that the world must
[00:16:50] proceed on the basis of multipolarity, and that
[00:16:53] means a number of things, one is that
[00:16:57] we as much as possible must
[00:16:59] dedolarize, the dedolarization
[00:17:03] means that our economies will be freed and our currencies a..."
[00:17:08] will then be used for purposes of
[00:17:11] ensuring that trade is undertaken without the
[00:17:14] mediation of
[00:17:16] a currency that one does not control, so that i
[00:17:19] think is one the thing that emerges periodically from
[00:17:23] these engagements. number two, that in terms
[00:17:27] of technological transfer, it is done
[00:17:31] in such a way that African countries are not
[00:17:35] undermined and that the relation is not
[00:17:38] parasitic and number three, that there is value
[00:17:42] addition in terms the products that
[00:17:45] Africa does, African countries produce and therefore
[00:17:49] market, and number four, to ensure that international rules
[00:17:53] of trade are not rules of trade that
[00:17:56] disadvantage the global south, and number five,
[00:18:00] to ensure that the Britain woods institutions are not run a
[00:18:04] manner that undermines the economic.
[00:18:08] stability these countries. We have seen, for example, when
[00:18:12] the United States of America and Europe are ruling the root as they
[00:18:16] do. One the thing that is used very effectively is
[00:18:19] sanctions, and when you are sanctioned, it means that you are no
[00:18:23] longer allowed to play in the international
[00:18:27] market as it were. Look at the whole idea of
[00:18:31] how bank transactions are undertaken, you
[00:18:34] either are within the swift system. which is
[00:18:38] run by the Americans or you are in the eyeb
[00:18:42] system, so that if you are in
[00:18:45] Nigeria in Abuja and you want to transfer money
[00:18:49] to Akra in Ghana, you use the Swift, which means that the
[00:18:53] intermediary bank is in New York or in
[00:18:56] some other country, yet you are in the immediate neighborhood, that
[00:19:00] if you are selling your coco from
[00:19:04] la codivoir and selling it to ana, if you
[00:19:08] can, then you discover that the currency to be used
[00:19:12] is dollar. if you are using cards, then you discover that
[00:19:16] you are not in control of your affairs, and this is
[00:19:20] why the St. Petersburg initiative and initiatives such
[00:19:24] as the bricks are saying that the time is now
[00:19:28] to do number of things which are going to
[00:19:31] liberate the global south from the
[00:19:34] control and there from from the machinations. the conceptual
[00:19:38] west, and what are those things? number one, that we must
[00:19:42] enhance south to south collaboration. the
[00:19:46] anchor countries in this particular initiative are of
[00:19:50] course uh, Brazil, the Russian
[00:19:53] Federation, China, India, South
[00:19:56] Africa and number of countries are now getting into that
[00:20:00] space. Nigeria is not not as
[00:20:03] fully worded as it should be, Ethiopia, Uganda, and the whole
[00:20:07] idea is that once you've started trading amongst
[00:20:11] yourselves, then you do number of things, you can use
[00:20:15] your currencies, if Kenya for example,
[00:20:19] is buying oil from the Russian
[00:20:22] Federation, it can be determined whether how do you
[00:20:26] use the Russian ruble, how do you use the Kenyan shilling
[00:20:29] if one is buying goods from
[00:20:33] China, how do we use the UN as against the
[00:20:36] Angolan? kwanza, how if you are buying from India,
[00:20:40] how do we use the rupee as against the
[00:20:44] Nigerian niira or using it against the
[00:20:48] Ganean CD? These are some the things
[00:20:52] that are being talked about when we talk about
[00:20:55] bricks. The other thing is in the area of
[00:20:59] artificial intelligence. Artificial
[00:21:02] intelligence, as we know it today, is area
[00:21:06] that is being dominated by
[00:21:10] the global north, but the global south is not too
[00:21:14] far away. The Russians, the Chinese, the Indians, the
[00:21:17] Brazilians are in that space. "the
[00:21:20] disadvantaged continent in that
[00:21:23] regard is the African continent, how are we going to
[00:21:27] leverage by collaboration, so that even when we
[00:21:31] have satellites out there, they are satellites which
[00:21:35] are controlled by friendly countries. the other thing that is
[00:21:39] important is tariffs, we have seen in the recent
[00:21:43] past how the American administration has used the
[00:21:47] instrument of tariffs to undermine." in
[00:21:50] Africans and to undermine the rest the world by
[00:21:53] imposing tariffs which are then transferred to the
[00:21:57] population and which have interfered with trade a
[00:22:01] monumental way, how are you going within the global
[00:22:04] south? and it must be remembered that in terms of
[00:22:08] population, if you talk about the global south and
[00:22:12] just give very rough numbers, you are talking about India with 1.5
[00:22:15] billion easy, you are talking about China with 1.2 billion i
[00:22:20] you are talking about Africa with 1.4 billion
[00:22:23] easily, you are talking about the Caribbeans, you are talking
[00:22:27] about the Brazilians, Latin America or South
[00:22:31] America, and you are talking about a Europe whose population is
[00:22:34] reducing and aging, so when one looks at the
[00:22:38] potentiality the global south, then one
[00:22:42] sees number of things that the only thing that it lacks
[00:22:46] is a coherent approach, and this is why
[00:22:50] there is argument and I think Development Bank is being now
[00:22:54] initiated which is going to put the global south together
[00:22:58] and in this regard African institutions can also be
[00:23:02] incorporated, African Development Bank, Afri Exim
[00:23:05] Bank, African Reinsurance institutions,
[00:23:08] and in that way there will be new
[00:23:12] world economic order, and what is the
[00:23:15] mantra for the new world economic order, the
[00:23:19] mantra. is one, not aid
[00:23:22] trade, not just trade on primary
[00:23:26] commodities, but value addition, and you've
[00:23:30] seen this in the recent past in the mining sector, for
[00:23:33] example, you're saying you want to take our uranium, build
[00:23:37] the factory that processes that uranium
[00:23:41] in our countries, you want to take our gold,
[00:23:45] build factory that processes our
[00:23:48] gold, you want to take our medicine or you want to take
[00:23:52] our plants which are used in the pharmaceutical industry, build the
[00:23:56] pharmaceutical industry in our place and we will
[00:24:00] transfer technology, so what does one
[00:24:03] see are very carefully choreographed
[00:24:07] rebellion against a world order that
[00:24:11] has been parasitic on the rest the world by
[00:24:14] using institutions that have been parasitic,
[00:24:18] the world and... particularly has failed to
[00:24:22] realize our potential because we
[00:24:25] receive usurious loans almost in the nature of
[00:24:29] Shilock from the Briton Woods institutions and
[00:24:33] this particular approach appears not to be
[00:24:36] working, the new economic order which is
[00:24:40] coming under the bricks and which can be
[00:24:43] mediated through institutions in the continent of
[00:24:47] Africa such as the African Union and through initiatives such as the
[00:24:51] Africa continent of free trade area, through initiatives and
[00:24:55] institutions such as the African Development Bank and the Afri
[00:24:59] Exim bank, and through collaborations which are
[00:25:03] useful, which will also entil using co
[00:25:06] local currencies, and one looks to an Africa that will work
[00:25:10] towards a single currency so that Africa
[00:25:13] dedolarizes, that is the new
[00:25:17] economic order that one looks
[00:25:21] towards as we talk about this new
[00:25:24] dispensation, which is going to be the last
[00:25:28] struggle, economic
[00:25:30] liberation. we continue this
[00:25:33] debate. it is debate that is useful, it unpacks the continent
[00:25:37] of Africa. we will see you next time, and
[00:25:40] we thank you for continuing to accompaning us
[00:25:44] in this
[00:25:46] journey.
[00:25:53] Every day across forests, highways, towns and
[00:25:56] villages, brave men and women stand watch so that Nigeria can
[00:26:00] sleep. They leave their families behind. confront danger head
[00:26:03] on and make sacrifices many of us will never see,
[00:26:07] yet the enemies of our nation continue their assault, they target
[00:26:11] our children, they murder innocent citizens, they force families
[00:26:15] from their homes, they turn thriving communities into places
[00:26:19] of fear and uncertainty, their goal is simple,
[00:26:23] to break our spirit, divide our people and steal
[00:26:27] the future of our nation, but Nigeria is stronger than
[00:26:31] terror as well command greater accountability, stronger security
[00:26:35] measures and more effective action from those entrusted with our safety,
[00:26:38] we must also play our part, support our security
[00:26:42] forces, salute their calantry, stand with those
[00:26:46] stand for us. if you see something, say
[00:26:49] something, let us be our brotherers keeper, we must
[00:26:53] never surrender to fear, despare or hopelessness.
[00:26:57] this is not the time for division, not by tribe, not
[00:27:01] by religion. not by region, not by
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[00:30:28] That is really cool.
[00:30:32] in the kitchen, okay, she's not in the studio, i will get
[00:30:36] you later, don't worry, how
[00:30:39] is the identity of a passport,
[00:30:43] a barrier or an entry into i i
[00:30:47] know i'm entering on comfortable zones, but yeah, you see other
[00:30:51] nationals going through immigration easily until your green passport comes up and
[00:30:55] then the official sits up suddenly now work has started
[00:30:58] you know