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[00:00:47] of Remedly presents reporters [00:00:52] of file, of in parts of Nigeria, there is cause [00:00:55] people say in whisper, a spell [00:00:59] feared by remain and surrounded by [00:01:02] mystery, from generation to [00:01:06] generation, stories about [00:01:08] of this of charm have circulated across many communities in [00:01:11] Nigeria, particularly the Euroba [00:01:15] of land. [00:01:19] Magun, a [00:01:22] traditional charm believed to punish [00:01:25] infidelity. The word translated to [00:01:29] mean: "do not climb, a warning [00:01:33] to any man who does sleep with another man's [00:01:36] wife. According to [00:01:40] local believe, if woman carries the magun [00:01:43] charm, any man who sleeps with her without [00:01:47] of removing a or neutralizing it could suffer terrible [00:01:51] consequences. [00:01:55] of Some claim the spell can cause sudden [00:01:59] collapse. during intercourse, [00:02:02] of violent convulsions, persistent crowing [00:02:05] of like roster or death, unless a ritual [00:02:09] specialist [00:02:11] a intervens. our trip [00:02:15] to the popular motor park at the oroshoki area of Legos [00:02:18] State shows that respondents had enough [00:02:22] knowledge on the [00:02:24] of spell, he has to spend [00:02:25] of about like let's say 21 days on that [00:02:29] woman body. If any man does [00:02:31] of not move closer to her, that woman will die, [00:02:35] but any man that move closer to her, during that [00:02:38] period the man will die, of course I believe in it, because [00:02:42] his culture, his [00:02:44] of tradition, and we still have to believe in [00:02:49] me a it. of [00:02:58] of [00:03:03] of [00:03:09] o gba iyawo e, so wa le magun fun iyawo [00:03:13] e, so that olorun lo wa sọ [00:03:16] wipe iyẹn naa strong, so by the time [00:03:19] tiyin, ọkọ iyawo [00:03:22] yẹ. [00:03:26] of [00:03:32] in [00:04:00] body uh, she want another person die, woman, [00:04:04] wicked person, they do her like [00:04:06] of that, however [00:04:07] it is believed that the only solution for any man who comes in [00:04:11] contact with magun is probably an intervention by [00:04:15] traditional list. Dr. Owujabi Wahid [00:04:19] ayinde is [00:04:20] one. [00:04:24] Kingdom, he sees that consequences are die for any [00:04:27] man who des to ignore the exists. [00:04:32] I have [00:04:32] of witnessed one or two and I've received [00:04:36] patience with such [00:04:39] affliction, some one will start crowing, the other one will [00:04:43] start running towards the stream, some tumbles, he [00:04:47] tumbles tries, so if he tumbles one, if he some [00:04:50] ass, some assaulted one, so people will quickly hold [00:04:54] to him so that it won't take the two [00:04:57] summers, if he takes the third one, that's [00:05:00] the head of him, let me explain [00:05:01] of something, not only husband [00:05:05] place this on the wive, lover, a [00:05:09] jealous lover [00:05:10] of the wife too could place it on the... wife so that the husband will [00:05:13] die, he to will now inherit the woman, they will not have [00:05:17] a free hand. in certain percentage of [00:05:21] yoruba prepare themselves for such [00:05:23] unexpected, they try and fortify [00:05:27] themselves with things that will prevent [00:05:30] magon in having powers over them, [00:05:34] so it could be an hamlet, it could be [00:05:37] incision, mutilation and incision, it could be you [00:05:41] leak it once a it could be a concussion, a concussion [00:05:45] soup where you eat if you have such with you, so when [00:05:49] this happens you won't be totally affected [00:05:52] 100%, you might be 40 or 50% affected, so [00:05:56] you can now people can now run around and give [00:05:59] you Mr. Yinde further listed the different types and [00:06:03] traditional items used to perform [00:06:06] magons, the one that makes [00:06:10] someone crow crows. that one is [00:06:13] prepared, the major ingredient is [00:06:16] coke, there are other ingredients too, herbs and [00:06:19] roots, so if it is that of where one some [00:06:23] ass, some ass and dies [00:06:26] off, we make you sometimes of that [00:06:30] there, we use this the blood, we [00:06:34] use chameleon, the one that the [00:06:38] victim would start craving for water is [00:06:41] prepared with water, but the water is not ordinary water, [00:06:44] sometimes we get the dew, we put bowl outside [00:06:48] overnight, like 10 20 bowls, [00:06:52] we got a lot of dews, so from the des we gather them, [00:06:56] and that the water will now be used, sometimes we use seven [00:06:59] waters, coconut water, stream [00:07:02] water, ocean water, river [00:07:05] water, and some other waters, some waters [00:07:09] from the from the dead, while watching the dead, is thrown [00:07:13] away, so the spirit the [00:07:16] the water dead will do the job, he speaks on the type where a peer become [00:07:19] physically inseparable, and we use [00:07:23] these when two dogs meet and they are stuck [00:07:27] together, so you cut the [00:07:30] genital, so the male will go this way, the female [00:07:34] will go this way, so the two will die at the end the day, so we [00:07:38] will now remove what i needed, according to [00:07:42] him, the victim may feel relieved after some rights have [00:07:45] been performed, but it will be a while as the person would finally [00:07:49] succum to death. it may be f years, [00:07:52] it may be se years, may be si years, may be thre years, it [00:07:54] depends on how readily [00:07:57] powerful he is or he was before the affliction, [00:08:01] it will him at the end the [00:08:02] day. [00:08:11] during the course of this. but we also realized that Magun applies [00:08:14] in other parts the country. We met with [00:08:18] another traditionalist Isuchuku Steven Chizoba, the [00:08:22] Igwe [00:08:23] or kalete, popularly known as Celebrity Dibia in [00:08:27] Delta State. He [00:08:31] said Thunderbolt is real and is the ancestors ways [00:08:35] of punishing a wife who cheated on her husband. The gods the [00:08:38] land designed punishment for that. Therefore, a married [00:08:42] woman should stick to the husband alone, [00:08:46] while a married man is permitted to add another wife or [00:08:50] many as many wives as possible to his home. now [00:08:53] naturally, if you go against this um belief system [00:08:57] as a married woman going [00:09:01] outside or sleeping outside, the nature punishes you by bringing either [00:09:05] sending lightning or perform of thunder to [00:09:09] either strike the lady or the man. [00:09:12] man who is having affair with the married woman outside her matrimonial [00:09:16] home right, it meant it is meant to kill [00:09:19] immediately a spot, so originally we know that [00:09:23] nature takes that effect, but these days we can use [00:09:26] charm to tell the nature take your place, this is what you are supposed to [00:09:30] do, either you die there or you get stucked in [00:09:34] there, so it's either nature does it or we [00:09:37] use charm implement that, warning husbands, he [00:09:41] stress that there are clauses to the effectiveness the [00:09:45] charm women will say gender inequality, gender [00:09:49] inequality, fine, i will tell men before you do [00:09:52] that and it gets effective, make sure [00:09:56] you as married man that is doing that to your wife to protect [00:10:00] your wife, you don't have affair with another married [00:10:03] woman, because as married man if i'm having affair with the married [00:10:07] woman outside my home, if i put that in my wife [00:10:10] it does not work. is not failure the [00:10:14] charm, is not [00:10:15] it's nature taking its place, because my [00:10:18] people say the [00:10:21] us measuring any substance for anybody. c the use for your [00:10:25] own measurement. however, the process of making the charm is [00:10:29] slightly different in the eastern path of [00:10:32] Nigeria. give different ways in which you [00:10:36] can invoke that thunder a thunder boot and [00:10:39] um woman, your wife without her knowing. i said you can [00:10:43] put tread, you can put needle, some you put [00:10:47] the broom, pin it down, whenever it happens she gets stucked or [00:10:51] conjoined with the partner, but rituals i [00:10:55] said something about pulling out the broom, broomstick, flugging [00:10:59] the two parties, which it is very painful, don't think it's just a [00:11:02] broomstick flug, it is very painful, if must tell you the [00:11:06] truth, then some them like the one of fred, the [00:11:10] the Habbalist, because not everybody who does it is an [00:11:13] abalist, the abalis who um, who [00:11:17] prepared the charm for that man or the husband of that woman [00:11:21] will tell the man if this happens see this water see? [00:11:25] sprinkle this water on them or see this colar note, [00:11:28] use this col note to declare whatever you [00:11:31] want to want it to happen, break it, see this native [00:11:34] shop, different rituals, some will tell you okay, once you see it [00:11:38] stock, you take egg, you break egg, they get [00:11:42] separated, there are some charms that the [00:11:46] so aim is to render a man having affair with my wife [00:11:49] useless, another sh might be to render the man [00:11:52] impotent the counting. another one will be [00:11:56] any man who crosses my wife will die, then another one [00:12:00] will be anyone who crosses my wife will run mad, [00:12:04] another one will now be this conjoining which i want to see [00:12:08] you in this art, dwelling on the conjoining part, i think [00:12:11] that is the best them all because i would want to see [00:12:15] you, see you, just get [00:12:17] it in mind that once it happens, it is a dent in that [00:12:21] family, i would advise a man to invoke this st. [00:12:25] that boats whichever form it is in his wife [00:12:28] because when it happens it is very difficult to take that [00:12:32] person [00:12:33] back. [00:12:37] according to local believes a man who sleeps with [00:12:41] woman who has been lased with such charm [00:12:45] could suffer sudden illness, madness [00:12:49] and even death. now while these stories are [00:12:52] widely told, medical expert. believe that some the [00:12:56] things we refer to as traditional terms [00:13:00] could actually be medical conditions. [00:13:04] Wanting to know more, we decided to seek what [00:13:07] science think the particular [00:13:10] type that causes partners to stick [00:13:13] together, though there hasn't been any [00:13:16] scientific research to back the existence of maggun, but [00:13:20] Africans believe showed the dependence these [00:13:24] supernatural. by those who have seen it [00:13:27] work, but safeguarding practitioner, nola solomon [00:13:31] based in the UK says she respects the African [00:13:34] belief, before colonization we had our beliefes, we had our [00:13:38] culture, we have things that we believe could [00:13:40] happen, however we can minimize the [00:13:44] biological and scientific explanations to what [00:13:47] our beliefs are, she speaks on [00:13:51] penis captivus, a medical term for partners. getting [00:13:55] temporarily stuck together during sexual [00:13:58] intercourse, penis captivus [00:14:01] happens when a man and woman are having [00:14:05] intercourse and during orgasm, especially for the [00:14:08] woman, the muscles contract and trapped the and trap the [00:14:12] penis, for men this is [00:14:16] very painful [00:14:18] experience, most times it happens [00:14:21] and within minutes or seconds it stops. when the [00:14:25] muscles relax and the swelling stops [00:14:28] and the man can come out if he if he had any form of [00:14:32] swelling, but in some cases that contraction [00:14:35] happens claps the penis [00:14:38] and it doesn't just go away [00:14:42] within minutes or seconds like it would in some cases, in those [00:14:45] cases they will need medical attention, she says though is [00:14:49] ray in humans but it usually happens, they go [00:14:53] to hospitals and the doctor. will do what is necessary, in some cases they will [00:14:57] give steroids or anything to relax the muscles [00:15:01] and then the penis will come out, so the more the [00:15:04] contractions happens, the blood [00:15:08] flow to the penis is restricted, it causes [00:15:11] swelling and it's a painful experience, so in [00:15:15] those cases the people get scared, the man screams because he's in [00:15:18] pain, and traditionally is believed that is [00:15:22] repercussion, so i can't [00:15:25] dispute why it happens to people or what the [00:15:28] beliefes are, we can't do that, because we have to respect culture and [00:15:32] belief, but scientifically, this is the [00:15:36] explanation. [00:15:45] believe in maggun still holds powerful [00:15:49] influence in parts of our society, while [00:15:52] experts advised that matters involving health or sudden [00:15:56] illness should always be handled by qualified medical [00:16:00] professionals. African traditional believers believe such [00:16:03] cases must be handled the traditional ways. [00:16:07] Betis Magun a supernatural punishment, [00:16:11] psychological weapon or simply one the [00:16:15] most powerful cultural myth ever told. [00:16:19] In a country where ancient tradition meets modern [00:16:22] science, the answer may depend on what people [00:16:26] choose to believe, but one thing is certain [00:16:29] across Nigeria, Magun has [00:16:33] become that one word that some main drawing. [00:17:08] "the human face is a primary means of identification and the [00:17:12] social significant marker of a person's identity, but for some [00:17:16] children the identity has been altered due to [00:17:19] congenital defects. one of such defects is cleft [00:17:23] sleep and pallets which develops in children when there is [00:17:27] poor fusion of facial tissues in the wormb leading to [00:17:31] openings in upper lip or roof the mouth. a cleflipper [00:17:35] paled is formed in the early stages of" pregnancy where [00:17:38] the anomaly, this body is a midline where it [00:17:42] doesn't form and it doesn't come together, it's kind of like [00:17:45] spinabida, your body just doesn't fuse, so the muscle [00:17:49] tissues in the face are deformed, it's an anomaly, [00:17:53] there's no reasoning behind it, it's genetics, it's [00:17:56] environmental triggers, it's lack of prenatal care, [00:18:00] and that's what we want to educate the the mothers that prenatal [00:18:04] care is important and that there is access, is hope there [00:18:08] are teams and there are doctors here that can help within the walls of [00:18:12] bagada general hospital I got emotional as the [00:18:16] story [00:18:16] of 15 year old Daniel caught my attention, his mother [00:18:20] recounts the trauma she experienced when she discovered he was [00:18:24] born with cleffed pallet. when i gave back to [00:18:28] him i noticed that when you give him something some liquid [00:18:32] anything it takes it comes through his nose only take [00:18:35] back little but took him down to the hospital, [00:18:39] they said i should just that with time, because he the are [00:18:43] twins, so i came [00:18:46] back to take care of him, but as he's growing, [00:18:50] we we are doing it, daniel came last [00:18:53] fall when we were here in November, and [00:18:56] unfortunately just before his surgery he [00:19:00] developed malaria, and of course we can't do surgery a [00:19:04] patient who's sick, and so we had to postpone. so [00:19:07] this morning we will do it, and we've already had him [00:19:11] evaluated by our speech therapist, and she's going to give [00:19:15] him some things that he can work after his [00:19:18] surgery to to improve his speech [00:19:22] even more. during my interactions with Daniel, i [00:19:26] experienced a zeal and enthusiasm first [00:19:29] hand. it tells me is excited [00:19:33] about the possibility of finally speaking clearly like other children. [00:19:38] after the surgery, the last embarrassment was in the school, he [00:19:41] wanted to participate in one the this rushing [00:19:45] game, they were to drink coca-cola, and [00:19:49] immediately just everything started gushing from his [00:19:53] nose and the propiator has to call that, [00:19:56] so he was so embarrassed [00:20:00] that [00:20:01] you know that was the last experience we had from [00:20:03] him, [00:20:07] Exell [00:20:20] story is not different, the pain and frustration of watching a [00:20:24] child being repeatedly ostracized by pierce pushed his [00:20:28] mother to seek a lasting solution with the [00:20:32] feeder and we find out that baby take the food instead of to go [00:20:36] in it's coming out from the nose. so it [00:20:39] was not like little, it was much, and [00:20:43] that the same moment you be struggling to save the baby's life because the baby will be like [00:20:47] choking, we did the first sur six months. because [00:20:51] the whole inside the mouth was open, [00:20:54] all the whole up was open, so probably baby [00:20:58] cry, you will see the the brain from the [00:21:00] mouth, so it was bad as [00:21:03] that, as [00:21:07] Exel is wheeld to the theatre, expectations are high [00:21:11] that when he returns, it will begin new chapter where he can [00:21:15] smile, speak without [00:21:17] difficulty, [00:21:25] The surgical procedure began with the administration of [00:21:28] anesthesia to prepare the patient for surgery. [00:21:32] I witness the procedure life and it was difficult to hold back [00:21:36] my emotions as I watched each step, the process of [00:21:39] putting smiles on the faces these [00:21:42] families. [00:21:46] Doctors say the procedure for cleft sleep takes an hour to two. [00:21:50] while cases of Leip Pallets takes two to th [00:21:54] hours. The [00:21:57] organization says interventions like this remain crucial [00:22:01] because every child deserves equal chance at life to [00:22:05] speak, grow and be fully included in [00:22:08] society regardless of congenital conditions. This is [00:22:12] very enduring project because um it [00:22:15] has to do with the life and if you notice these children they [00:22:19] have. this stigma either in school or within the [00:22:23] community because they have this whole [00:22:25] you know and then they've been finding it so difficult eat and it's also [00:22:29] affecting their nutritions you know [00:22:31] but what we have done here what you are here to do is to conduct these [00:22:35] surgeries on these children and make them happy and [00:22:38] reintegrate back to the society. children are priceless [00:22:42] assets and um when we pay attention to their [00:22:46] health, to their welfare and to their development. [00:22:50] "we are helping the nation, because it is said that healthy nation is a [00:22:54] wealthy nation. one the beneficiaries of a previous [00:22:57] surgery who is now better and living more confidently [00:23:01] is reminder of what timely intervention can [00:23:04] achieve. before the surgery is always by himself, [00:23:08] nobody want to play with him, nobody want to believe with him, he [00:23:12] always feel timed and shy also loting people because the [00:23:15] deformity of his mouth, but after the [00:23:18] surgery." has been happy, he can [00:23:22] now play with everybody, relates freely with [00:23:25] everybody, and also it has been so [00:23:29] much lively. As this organizations continue to put [00:23:33] smiles on the faces of children and their families, there is a growing need [00:23:36] to confront traditional believes and myth that still surround congenital [00:23:40] birth defects. This is because beyond the medical challenge, [00:23:44] exclusion and stigma often denied this children the [00:23:48] rights and opportunities. need to thrive in the [00:23:51] society. Glory Arimu, TVC [00:23:55] News, [00:23:56] Lagos. [00:24:02] Brought to you by Remitly, send money home, [00:24:05] safely with remedly. [00:24:09] Station with the best news bulletin, as are [00:24:12] today, TBC News [00:24:15] attends and [00:24:18] TVC. [00:24:25] being the best is never [00:24:27] simple, [00:24:31] it is pressure, precision and the [00:24:34] responsibility to get it right, behind every [00:24:38] headline is powerful engine of network engineers and [00:24:42] technical teams working round the clock, keeping the [00:24:46] news room alive, connected and on air. 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