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[00:02:03] passing the marina every morning, i don't and i'm afraid to go and see what broad
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[00:02:34] please the local government chairman should make this a priority
[00:02:38] should be embarrassing to be happening under acbadd because the central business district
[00:02:43] of a is of capital area of Lagos this is why Lagos is
[00:02:46] legacy and it should not be such an embarrassment please thank you for
[00:02:49] highlighting of it over and over again they they are hearing they will
[00:06:28] Welcome back and thanks for staying with us. A heartbreaking video currently trending on
[00:06:32] social media has ignited nationwide conversation about empathy,
[00:06:36] privacy and the boundaries of content creation. The
[00:06:40] video captures the exact mode.
[00:06:42] ment a patient passed away a hospital general ward as the reality
[00:06:46] the loss sank in. The deceased family members broke down in
[00:06:50] overwhelming grief, wailing uncontrollably, collapsing to the
[00:06:54] floor and consoling one another in one the most
[00:06:57] painful moments any family can experience, but just
[00:07:01] few feet away was another man who was reportedly in the
[00:07:05] hospital caring for his own sick relative, rather than offering comfort
[00:07:09] or respecting family's privacy, he took out his phone.
[00:07:12] recorded their raw moment of grief and shared the video on social
[00:07:16] media. The footage has since gone viral, dividing public opinion. Many have
[00:07:20] describe the act as deeply insensitive, arguing that no
[00:07:24] family's darkest moment should become content without their consent. Others
[00:07:28] believe the video is powerful reminder the reality of death, saying
[00:07:32] it encourages people to value life, reconcile with loved ones
[00:07:35] and appreciate every moment. So where should the line be
[00:07:39] drawn? As the race for views, and virality
[00:07:43] diminish the humanity, should there be ethical limits to what
[00:07:47] we record and post online, even in public
[00:07:50] spaces, or is documenting real life events
[00:07:54] simply reflection the world we now living? what are your thoughts on
[00:07:57] this? out of respect for the grieving family and in view the sensitive
[00:08:01] nature the incident, we have chosen not to air or
[00:08:05] amplify the viral video. our discussion today is intended to
[00:08:09] examine the ethical issues surrounding the recording and sharing. of such
[00:08:13] deeply personal moments, not to sensionalize the family's loss, so please join
[00:08:17] the conversation by
[00:08:37] and i you would feel the pain, this
[00:08:40] is um it is
[00:08:43] raw and it is very close to
[00:08:47] home cuz i remember on saturday was in my friend's house when i heard of
[00:08:51] coach laraakud i see d mom passing and
[00:08:54] literally i broke down i have never grived like that
[00:08:58] because i just discussed with her that were trying to get buy baby stuff to go and
[00:09:02] visit her in our house so it was very shocking my kids were
[00:09:06] there everybody was there they were coming to check on me the grandmom heard me crying from
[00:09:09] upstairs was like and like don't worry, so imagine
[00:09:13] somebody recording that moment and posting online for what
[00:09:17] lesson? anyway, that's my opinion, some the opinion that it reminds us that life is
[00:09:21] short, nima, what was your initial reaction to that
[00:09:23] video? i've been on this side of this
[00:09:27] conversation, i think people should i, i know is selfish is a selfish
[00:09:31] world and content creation is tough, so everything you see
[00:09:35] is content, i wonder how people pull
[00:09:39] this through and you know nothing breaks in them.
[00:09:43] to see someone in their most vulnerable situation and then
[00:09:47] you hold a video when you are not in any
[00:09:50] way in need of evidence, so things can happen, maybe you're
[00:09:54] the ocada driver and somebody is
[00:09:57] you know having epileptic episode in your cader or
[00:10:01] your keke or your taxi, it will require some evidence in case things go
[00:10:05] wrong, i would exempt when you are going to be subject
[00:10:09] of any investigation, but look at this video and i know lot the... should have seen
[00:10:13] it, just search it, it will pop up,
[00:10:16] somebody's family lost their bread
[00:10:20] winner, most loved one or loved one, whatever the situation is,
[00:10:24] and you are on this side? you were able to hold a
[00:10:26] camera through their pain and nothing
[00:10:30] shifted. well there's reminder of your because you're with your own sick
[00:10:33] relative who any minute you could just
[00:10:37] flip it can flip - and nothing shifted. i don't know,
[00:10:41] but i think is also good for their mental health because
[00:10:44] the overworring that i go through, i see some people the they just live through
[00:10:48] life, they don't worry, i
[00:10:52] dis it's something i envy, disagree
[00:10:54] with that. i wish, i wish i can get to point where you won't get to you, it won't
[00:10:58] get to me,
[00:11:00] you know that i'm learning how to walk away from
[00:11:03] somebody crying, because i can be there the old
[00:11:07] day and i will carry the weight of that grief for weeks and nobody in my
[00:11:11] house knows where i carried it from, i can read the story
[00:11:15] in the paper, nobody understands how everybody, but me
[00:11:19] i'm still walking around with the weight of it, i need to unlearn it, so i'm
[00:11:23] doing that deliberately. and i don't know how these people do these
[00:11:27] things, it just doesn't, it's not, it's just not me, i have
[00:11:31] to learn it in my older age, because sometimes days i have not moved
[00:11:34] on, everybody have moved on, the reason why they do it their own,
[00:11:38] to be you can go to be selfish enough to put camera is something i
[00:11:42] can, no, the reason why they do their own is because of bad
[00:11:45] intention, because you know
[00:11:49] tell me where is the empathy, because this this topic just lies in the
[00:11:53] intersection of ethics. our culture
[00:11:57] as africans, technology, this new technology
[00:12:01] thing now and the law, because tell me why
[00:12:04] something drastic or something so emotional heartbreaking happens, you
[00:12:08] took your time, look at the way he he set the camera, his
[00:12:12] first instinct, how can your first instinct
[00:12:16] be to like hold the camera, set it
[00:12:20] too, then even when you even post it even put arrow so we can see the
[00:12:23] dead person. it and then like who are
[00:12:27] you, who gave bird to you, what kind of a person are you? do you understand?
[00:12:31] that's your first, humanity should always should come before this content, every keep
[00:12:35] saying it here, what this social media will not cause, it's plenty, so
[00:12:39] you try to tell me that okay, we understand that some people might argue that is a public space,
[00:12:43] okay no problem, hospital bed paid for when a sh does that give
[00:12:47] you the right, the give you consent that i'm grieving lost person and then
[00:12:51] i wake up and my picture, my family picture and my my the person
[00:12:55] i'm grieving is in public space how arrow pointing how
[00:12:59] dare you is the audacity for me so i try to say that if people are in hospital and
[00:13:03] shared spaces maybe someone is is having a surge maybe their private part or
[00:13:07] maybe their breast a part their body that for the fact that you're sharing a corner with
[00:13:10] them that the whole body should come out on social media are you i
[00:13:14] say how dare you is that's it so in these cases even
[00:13:18] though is a public space is shared space the
[00:13:22] law also cover protects people protects your privacy,
[00:13:26] because different thing if he was recording himself and he captured
[00:13:29] them by error, but this wasn't that he captured them by
[00:13:32] error
[00:13:37] capturing put a
[00:13:37] it system, edited to put around to point, he made
[00:13:41] them a story and they did not subscribe to act in his movie, i think is
[00:13:45] actionable, here we are
[00:13:48] today,
[00:13:49] i remember many years ago when social media just
[00:13:53] started blowing up and we started seeing people going to funerals and
[00:13:57] taking selfies with the dead body and we were discussing it,
[00:14:01] well, maybe not, maybe now, here we are, everything you saw
[00:14:05] today, you will repeat in 10 fols, hundred folds
[00:14:09] going down the line, so this conversation for me
[00:14:12] is what will we do as a country, what is the
[00:14:16] decision we're going to take as a country
[00:14:20] concerning how we use social media, what we allow on
[00:14:24] social media? countries like China have since understood that
[00:14:27] it is very important to regulate it in such a
[00:14:31] way that humanity,
[00:14:34] privacy is protected, but
[00:14:38] we are still going on and using social media
[00:14:41] anyhow and anyway, even Europe and
[00:14:44] America where this all started, every time
[00:14:48] on social media, I'm seeing videos upon videos of influential
[00:14:52] people having conversations with their government. sitting down at round
[00:14:56] tables with government talking about regulating
[00:14:59] this this thing that we call social
[00:15:03] media, we're not saying that it does not have its good sides when we have used it
[00:15:06] in many ways to better our lives and do better for each other and our
[00:15:10] countries, but there is a bad a flip side and that
[00:15:14] flip side if we do not
[00:15:17] quickly do something the sort of videos will be
[00:15:21] seeing especially since content has been monetized the sort of content.
[00:15:25] we be seeing will be so shocked, will be so embarrassed, shocked and it
[00:15:28] will cause um widespread
[00:15:32] anger and grief and and and and commotion, so what are
[00:15:36] we going to do? It's easy to just talk about, oh, how can he do it, how
[00:15:40] did he do it? He did it because he can do it a country that allows him to do
[00:15:44] it, as a country, as a government, what is the next
[00:15:47] step? Let's not just look at these videos as just one story
[00:15:51] in one area, far away, or just bad behavior, let
[00:15:55] us take a stand as a country, what do we want, how do
[00:15:59] we want to be represented on social media if other countries can do
[00:16:02] it, we can do it, when we went to China, I remember I met a couple
[00:16:06] of um... Chinese girls and we were talking wanted to
[00:16:10] change social uh exchange numbers and social media whatever and they were like
[00:16:13] oh um we're not on whatever you need to find us on this this
[00:16:17] this and I just and they were so comfortable this are they are
[00:16:20] educated yes exactly that's why I'm going they didn't have
[00:16:24] any there's nothing missing in them they were well spoken they spoke their
[00:16:28] Chinese and spoke English with me they wanted to know they're curious about me I asked them
[00:16:31] question so there's nothing that they lost
[00:16:34] everything they had so there's nothing that missing
[00:16:38] out because you are allowed to just use social media
[00:16:42] however and
[00:16:43] you know so we need to just for me conversations like this is not just
[00:16:47] about today oh my god how wicked he is we hear you what is the next
[00:16:51] step to take let's take
[00:17:16] and thanks for staying with us. Is there any positives to this? Is there any silver
[00:17:20] lining in terms the fact that maybe this is to remind us
[00:17:23] of those that were saying is to remind us that life is
[00:17:26] fical and that people can pass in one second? Is there
[00:17:30] any? Is there does anybody see that
[00:17:32] the consumer? Not at all. Okay, so we all agree that there's
[00:17:36] no. in their family
[00:17:38] is death now, it's not not a
[00:17:40] exclusive,
[00:17:44] exactly, exclusive
[00:17:45] it's to a certain sort of people, there's no
[00:17:49] excuse, so this idea of content
[00:17:51] creation and we just tend to
[00:17:55] just because of monetization, how
[00:17:59] do we ensure that we don't lose all form of
[00:18:02] decorum, um, empathy and boundaries
[00:18:06] because we want to generate. create content
[00:18:10] um, i have to call myself out because since they
[00:18:13] monetized we have be very serious on facebook and i realized that when
[00:18:17] i posted me and my son the first time i got a few dollars so the
[00:18:21] second time we came to work took a selfie and posted again and when i
[00:18:25] took picture with my yesterday was like are you going to post it on facebook maybe
[00:18:28] later but i knew my mother was going i knew was going to make me money and i just call to
[00:18:32] me i have the question that when you get monetized - the change is not
[00:18:36] sudden. 'you just realize you see what
[00:18:40] is bringing money is shamelessness,
[00:18:44] you did not do the shamelessness consciously the first time, but he got you money and
[00:18:48] they will give you data to show this is what brought you the most money last month,
[00:18:52] oh this content did i just did in my, i was
[00:18:55] not even arranged, he brought me money, then you do another one then it
[00:18:58] becomes learned thing, i was seeing more of it
[00:19:02] online, so when we see candid moments, people that capture candid
[00:19:06] moments they get viral'. and they make money, so we will end up
[00:19:10] having more candid, is
[00:19:11] there a way we can have regulation to stop this, or is it just
[00:19:15] case of we would educate ourselves by going to
[00:19:18] court, maybe if they su this guy and he has to pay money, what how
[00:19:22] can we curb this or or this conversation is enough, what
[00:19:26] can we do? conversation is not enough, we need to do
[00:19:30] serious sensitization, i don't know what we are teaching in our
[00:19:34] schools, but
[00:19:34] i don't think any of our schools, particularly from primary school.
[00:19:37] is teaching empathy, they
[00:19:39] are no longer teaching empathy, people no longer celebrate
[00:19:43] empathy, we call them smart, we call them the most outspoken
[00:19:47] one, we don't have focus on the weak ones, and so we grow up and
[00:19:51] we continue things like this, it should be thought that you know this is their time
[00:19:55] of grief, this is how you should comport yourself and parents too should teach their
[00:19:59] kids, you know how it is done, how it should be done, i
[00:20:03] don't know whether
[00:20:26] content creation thing, especially
[00:20:29] now with DJ and all of that. I feel
[00:20:33] like um, we're adding lot of carelessness to
[00:20:37] it and... is conscious carelessness, let
[00:20:41] me use an example, now let's say that that the
[00:20:44] family, the grieving family had military
[00:20:48] uniform,
[00:20:51] you now they saw that there were military men around there, i bet
[00:20:55] you that guy or whoever did made that video would not
[00:20:59] have tried that thing would with the opportunity given
[00:21:03] the opportunity that person would not, because he is fully aware or
[00:21:07] she is fully aware, whoever held the camera is fully aware
[00:21:11] that guy, if this video
[00:21:13] comes out, this military people will do me way no good, do you
[00:21:17] understand? then look at our... content creators
[00:21:21] when they go abroad, when they are here, they
[00:21:25] make careless videos, i don't care whoever appears, whatever
[00:21:29] appears in the video, they don't care, when they move abroad,
[00:21:33] you see the kind of videos that they make, they only make videos when
[00:21:37] they are with when they are indoors in the confined
[00:21:40] space, yeah, because they are fully aware that there are
[00:21:43] consequences, do you understand what i mean,
[00:21:47] yes, so these people, in as much as you know what, trying to say,
[00:21:50] okay, yeah, social media is this, social media is that, we should confine, but
[00:21:54] we our people are aware, they are fully
[00:21:58] aware, the make full conscious
[00:22:01] decisions,
[00:22:07] so you said
[00:22:08] you know something about how monetizing content sort
[00:22:12] of slowly changes you, um, the change
[00:22:16] happened even long before the monetization, that's how it slowly changes. you
[00:22:20] because then it was even for validation for the likes and the
[00:22:23] comments you know and we're human beings
[00:22:27] you find yourself just um unintentionally morfing
[00:22:31] into what you believe people would yeah
[00:22:34] accept and also validate you in form of likes
[00:22:38] and um comments and now money of course as we know with money
[00:22:41] amplifies everything so to that this one now
[00:22:45] is a personal level there's some people that their business their work
[00:22:50] I said in the beginning, social media has its good sides of course, but you
[00:22:54] have to be very careful, you have to
[00:22:58] be conscious and intentional of what your message
[00:23:01] is, who am I, first of all, what is the message
[00:23:05] I want to send, and how does this represent
[00:23:09] myself, my brand, my message? If any point you think that
[00:23:13] you are pushed to post a content or video, whatever it
[00:23:16] is, or even a speech that does not reflect. who you
[00:23:20] are, what you are, no matter how trending or how much you will make your
[00:23:24] how much, please take a step backwards, change,
[00:23:28] don't don't post it, so personally that is how we should deal with
[00:23:32] it, but secondly we're talking about
[00:23:34] raising, lot of us can have that self awareness bause we're
[00:23:38] coming from a time before now, so we have it, but then we're also
[00:23:42] now have a generation that were raised on social media, so
[00:23:46] they don't even have any what they know that makes it,
[00:23:49] what is important to them is how they are received on social media, so they will go as
[00:23:53] far as they want, so they may not necessarily have this thing that we
[00:23:57] have, this filter, that's where parenting comes in, that's where mentoring comes in, and
[00:24:01] that is where government policy must come in as well, buse
[00:24:05] not everybody has the privilege of having
[00:24:08] parents or schools or community that sees
[00:24:12] this as a bad thing, we watched or there was
[00:24:16] a video that went viral of mother giving her b
[00:24:20] maybe um sexual activity and
[00:24:24] she was streaming it in this country woman was
[00:24:28] was sexually abusing her child and she put
[00:24:31] it online and people watched and she got money
[00:24:35] so honestly concerning this boy that has or this person that has put
[00:24:39] this video i know that it is bad but it's just one the
[00:24:43] many horrible things happening on social media
[00:24:46] now and i'm saying to our government don't put hands like this
[00:24:50] and be looking, it's a serious situation, it may not
[00:24:54] seem like much, but it is lot, right now you
[00:24:58] may think it's just one person behaving badly, but it can get
[00:25:01] worse, you don't want one day, we have videos of maybe people
[00:25:05] abroad,
[00:25:06] you i know someone was let, okay you have call, okay let me just
[00:25:10] quickly you know i've seen people who have put videos of one she put up a
[00:25:14] video of her going into like a bank and vault and things like that
[00:25:18] buse she was not thinking it was bringing her views and she lost her
[00:25:22] job and access to that place and we're going to find people like that, somebody
[00:25:25] goes to works in central bank and decides to open up things or works
[00:25:29] with the presidency and decides to open up things that should not be opened
[00:26:17] so um,
[00:26:18] you know, this brings me back to what i always see, you
[00:26:21] know, the root, um, that's
[00:26:24] parenting, value system,
[00:26:28] because we can create content without sacrificing
[00:26:32] and..." dignity, we can create content
[00:26:35] without sacrificing our family's
[00:26:38] dignity, you see back in the
[00:26:41] day and when you go to someone's house and then parents used
[00:26:45] to do this thing, they say who are you, what is your name,
[00:26:48] what is your father's name, who is your father, who is your mother, we
[00:26:51] used to think that it was a prideful thing, it wasn't, because that parent needs to
[00:26:55] know who are you and where are you coming from, who raised
[00:26:58] you, what is your value system, is it acceptable in our home?
[00:27:02] do we share the same value system those that no later
[00:27:06] they say changing to look like a thing of maybe pride and segregation
[00:27:09] and the power strug like as no that was not the main reason of that
[00:27:13] question parents used to ask in those days we need to
[00:27:17] do so that you need to know whether my child and your child whether the way i see your parents and the way they brought
[00:27:21] you up whether he's in single whether you you can be friends with my child whether you can
[00:27:25] marry my child those are the reasons and that
[00:27:28] brings me to this particular issue of monetization
[00:27:35] you you're monetizing money you like it, but I bet you that there are certain things you won't put out
[00:27:39] there because of money, of course not,
[00:27:42] 419 brings money, human
[00:27:46] sacrifice and the this thing brings money and selling of human
[00:27:50] organs, but you don't do those things because the way we are
[00:27:54] brought up, because of your value system, you
[00:27:56] when the hear where they said you say to means
[00:28:00] that god forbid that no. and then you
[00:28:04] find out that when you come from a community, when you're raised
[00:28:07] well, when you have family unit, and family units
[00:28:11] also has extended family units, there are certain things you cannot do, the certain
[00:28:15] things you cannot put on this social media, let tell you, you think of your
[00:28:19] mother, you think of your father, you think of your so
[00:28:22] maybe your phone will start, there's something you post, your phone will start ringing, all
[00:28:26] your family members, take it down, take it
[00:28:29] down, do you understand, but you find that most these
[00:28:33] people they don't have community, they don't have family, they don't have where they are coming from, they don't
[00:28:36] have
[00:28:37] the who they are scared of, they don't they are listening to, they don't, they don't have who's
[00:28:41] going to point it out to them because it's just money, so what they don't have any
[00:28:45] value system, government
[00:28:48] government, you understand, because even if government let us start
[00:28:52] from the core, from ourselves as what do you think is
[00:28:56] right and wrong, so
[00:29:00] if so that when government wants to regulate, then
[00:29:03] you can work faster, but if you don't difference between right and
[00:29:07] wrong, we still f. i don't think
[00:29:11] anybody knows
[00:29:12] the difference, don't know the difference between right and wrong, i think people just
[00:29:15] believe they can get away with it in societies where they can get away
[00:29:19] with, if they don't know it in Nigeria, how come these people that they can do things here when they
[00:29:23] relocate to another country because the environment
[00:29:27] policy,
[00:29:31] people don't. is worshipping the law so you do a video influencer
[00:29:35] does a video so the moment get a
[00:29:38] smartphone i will be rolling like that anyway i am if i'm
[00:29:42] in the toilet i'll just hold the camera and be rolling i want that video and i will
[00:29:46] be talking anything inside without processing what i'm saying and
[00:29:50] that's for me is what everybody has been doing with their video because that's what i've
[00:29:53] seen people do with their video which is just imitating
[00:29:57] is common and is common now is anyhow he must be
[00:30:16] to once again, thank you for the topic, it's um, it's
[00:30:19] always nice and refreshing when topical issues
[00:30:23] that is happening in society is been brought
[00:30:27] up, now on this matter, i know that the family, yes they
[00:30:30] might
[00:30:31] be grieving, know that it's possible that the family will or
[00:30:35] can sue that person, it can even sue the hospital because
[00:30:39] actually you are supposed to have what you call healthcare centers and
[00:30:43] other public places are supposed to have what you call uh public
[00:30:46] liability you insurance that person can sue them even can
[00:30:50] sue the person who took the pictures but like all the ladies have said guess
[00:30:54] it goes beyond that particular incident is actually like
[00:30:57] um one the consequences the society.