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[00:00:39] me [00:00:48] Hello and welcome to labor length, I am Sharony Jason, on this week [00:00:52] edition [00:00:53] of the program will be focusing on the financial sector and the [00:00:56] government policy, especially that [00:00:59] of the banking. Recapitalization and how it affects [00:01:03] walkers. We also have new stories for you, we will be right [00:01:06] back. [00:01:11] of [00:01:24] you. The president [00:01:24] of the Nigerian Liberal Congress has called on walkers across the country to prepare [00:01:28] for the renegotiation of. the national minimum wage, the battle [00:01:32] for living [00:01:34] of wage will soon begin earnest, and as we [00:01:37] discuss the politics [00:01:39] of the future, we must ground our discussions [00:01:43] in the immediate material realities of our [00:01:46] class, we are preparing for the [00:01:49] renegotiation [00:01:50] of the national minimum wage. let us be [00:01:53] of clear, the party sum [00:01:57] that currently passes for a way, can no longer [00:02:01] be sustainable, it is [00:02:04] poverty wage, we must not go to [00:02:08] the negotiation table with begging bow, [00:02:12] we go as [00:02:13] a class that understands its power, we must [00:02:17] demand wage that truly approximates a living [00:02:21] wage, wage that takes workers [00:02:24] home with [00:02:27] of enough to feed addressing participants at the 2020. 6 NLC rain [00:02:31] school eld in Akwai bom state, labor leaders urged union [00:02:34] leaders to provide courageous and visionary leadership [00:02:38] while remaining committed to protecting the rights and welfare of [00:02:42] Nigerian workers. They also called on Nigerian workers to unite, [00:02:46] depen political participation and prioritize issue based [00:02:49] engagements ahead [00:02:51] of the 2027 general elections. For those of you attending [00:02:55] of these schools for the first time, please take it [00:02:58] seriously. I can tell you for free that I [00:03:02] am [00:03:03] of one [00:03:06] of of the first participants of of the Hamatan school which took place first under Comrade [00:03:09] Adams, it was actually in Bauchi, that's when the school [00:03:13] started, and I recall that time we had many of our corporates from [00:03:17] South Africa, Zimbabwe, [00:03:19] Ghana, Tanzania, all international guests were [00:03:23] there, so basically to [00:03:25] in continue this process from 2002, [00:03:29] I think... to today, I think it is [00:03:33] something that uh needed to be commended and I want all of [00:03:37] you to give the attention that he desire uh for this [00:03:40] training, and when you go back, the idea is also for you to scale it [00:03:44] down in your union uh, because you need to transfer [00:03:48] knowledge from one leadership to another or within the [00:03:51] cycle of a [00:03:53] of union of so that we can have a density of workers that are well [00:03:56] informed, like I said for decades the FES. stood [00:04:00] with the Nigerian labor movement, rooted in our sheer [00:04:04] commitments to social democracy, [00:04:07] workers rights, economic justice and [00:04:10] democratic governance. The NLC rain school [00:04:14] remains one [00:04:15] of the platforms for political education, a [00:04:19] time of critical reflection and capacity building [00:04:23] effort for trade unions across the country. [00:04:27] I'm told that as at today we have - [00:04:30] 200 participants already registered for this [00:04:34] score, the team chosen for this year [00:04:38] of score, the working class and the politics of [00:04:41] 2027 elections, issues, challenges [00:04:45] and opportunities is both timely, [00:04:48] relevant and urgent across Nigeria, [00:04:52] the working class continues to bear the [00:04:55] heaviest burden of socio economic reforms [00:04:58] influence. wage [00:05:01] devaluation and rising living [00:05:04] cost. the upcoming 2027 electoral [00:05:08] cycle must not be treated as merely routine [00:05:11] transition. of political office older, it must [00:05:15] be friend, having said that, on behalf [00:05:19] the ilo country office director, and on [00:05:23] behalf the director the ilo bureau for [00:05:26] workers activities, i extend our [00:05:30] warmest fraternal greetings and [00:05:34] message of unwevering solidarity to the [00:05:38] working men and women of Nigeria, [00:05:42] as Nigeria approaches the pivotal [00:05:45] 2027 political [00:05:47] milestone. The working class find [00:05:51] itself a very critical [00:05:54] historical crossroads. As Ayello, we [00:05:58] recognize that Nigerian workers are [00:06:01] currently bearing the heaviest burden [00:06:05] of profound economic [00:06:07] transformation. The realities of [00:06:11] skyrocketing inflation. expression, eroded [00:06:14] purchasing purchasing power and the sky [00:06:18] rocketing cost of basic necessities have [00:06:22] tested the resilience the Nigerian people to [00:06:26] its absolute limits. As the [00:06:29] ILO, our stance remains very, very [00:06:33] clear and resolute, there can be [00:06:37] no sustainable democracy or [00:06:40] economic progress without. [00:06:44] The annual rain school regarded as one the Nigerian Labor Congress flagship [00:06:48] political education programs brings together Trade Union [00:06:52] leaders and workers from across Nigeria for leadership [00:06:55] development, policy discussions and capacity [00:06:59] building. [00:07:05] Representatives the International Labor Organization, Frederick [00:07:08] Edbert Stefank, the Solidarity Center and the Labor Party. [00:07:12] made contributions at the rain school, no [00:07:16] turning back, no turning [00:07:19] back, i can see [00:07:21] everything, [00:07:28] the key concern is that as we approach the [00:07:31] 2027 politics, workers have to be very much [00:07:35] conscious in terms of who they bought in terms [00:07:39] of those that will actually... affect [00:07:43] their socio-economic well being, as you can see, the working [00:07:46] people are facing lot of challenge in terms of [00:07:50] declining purchasing power, erosions in their wages [00:07:54] and access to social [00:07:57] protection. the expectation is that at the end of this [00:08:01] school, the participants would [00:08:05] have had enough agitation, enough [00:08:08] education to go home and play. [00:08:12] very vital role in the process the [00:08:15] production the new leadership the [00:08:18] country, that is, as we are going to [00:08:22] an election here, not just by voting, by [00:08:26] educating people on [00:08:28] what is expected from leadership, [00:08:31] assessing and helping to educate the larger [00:08:34] society about what governance, what the [00:08:37] people should expect from those who take over [00:08:41] governance. [00:08:46] On the profile interview segment this week, I'll [00:08:48] be speaking with the acting national president of asbif. It brings us [00:08:52] up to speed on what the CVN policies are and how it [00:08:56] affects Nigerian workers, he emphasize that the banking [00:08:59] recapitalization has not affected workers [00:09:02] negatively. [00:09:06] It's the first time I've been speaking with you since your assumption of [00:09:10] office. I think it's safe to say. congratulations, thank you, [00:09:14] lot has been happening in the world of work, and for those in the banking and [00:09:18] finance sector, it's all about [00:09:20] recapitalization by the CBN, why do we need to have [00:09:24] this conversation at this particular point in time, why is it necessary for [00:09:28] CBN to say, you know what the financial sector means and [00:09:31] overall? the reality is recapitalization [00:09:35] simply means showing your capital is of this financial institution and it [00:09:39] could be corporate or regulatory induced. [00:09:43] so in this instance now is regulatory induced [00:09:46] and capital bases to the extent [00:09:50] the extent the how deep the capital b of a bank [00:09:54] is is how far they can do business, how far [00:09:58] they can drive the drive economic growth in the country, [00:10:01] so CBN in isoison one wanted a situation [00:10:05] whereby Nigerian banks will be more stable, remember the [00:10:08] recapitalization of 2004 to 2005. [00:10:13] helped us during global crisis of [00:10:16] 2008, there was o Nigeriaman that went under to the best [00:10:20] of my knowledge because of that shock absorber [00:10:24] that they had already put in. place in terms of healthy capita [00:10:27] be [00:10:28] so now CBN in his wisdom in 2024 came out with this [00:10:32] policy that there should be tired recapitalization [00:10:35] stretched over a period of two years 2024 to 2026 it [00:10:39] was just simply that they wanted the healthier [00:10:43] banks more strong banks and banks that will be more [00:10:46] resilient and be able to drive economic growth in Nigeria [00:10:50] because the capital base of a bank is to how [00:10:54] comfortable the bank. would be to do some kind of businesses now we [00:10:58] have international banks to 500 billionaire [00:11:02] capitalization capital biss 200 billion for national [00:11:05] bank 50 billion for manchant bank regional banks and all that so [00:11:09] meaning that an international bank in nigeria will be able to do some kind of business [00:11:13] 500 billion is not small money yes some people will say in fact [00:11:17] for me even think some people are already agitating that the capital [00:11:21] base should further be increased because "we [00:11:25] can now see that Nigerian banks are driving economic growth because they are able to [00:11:29] lend more, because banks now have surplus to [00:11:32] lend to violence and harassment at work [00:11:36] places, that's why we discussed this [00:11:39] policy and we feel that it's a policy that when [00:11:43] implemented and adopted is going to help all our [00:11:46] affiliates, [00:11:47] you know, all the federations that are affiliated to us [00:11:51] implement the same in their workplaces, but als [00:11:55] to extend it to extend it to the employer so [00:11:58] that uh we can have a workplace that [00:12:02] is safe from violence and harassment. are there any timelines [00:12:06] set aside to achieve this policy [00:12:09] draft? yes, this timeline for achieving this [00:12:13] policy draft, we expect that by the [00:12:17] end of this year and when we will be having our general [00:12:20] council meeting, we will be able to [00:12:25] in October, we can adapt it, then it can be [00:12:29] sent to all our affiliates uh, to [00:12:32] borrow leave from them when they are developing their [00:12:36] GBV policies, when they are developing their sexual [00:12:39] harassment policies, they can borrow leaf from us and [00:12:43] implement in their unions and extend it to the [00:12:47] employers. going back to the conversation as regards achieving occupational [00:12:51] health and safety in the workplace, it was observed during the com friends [00:12:55] that we have some African countries that yet to ratify [00:12:58] conventions that relate towards advancing [00:13:02] occupational health and safety in the workplace, how would you react to [00:13:06] this? first of all, let me say that, when we talk [00:13:09] occupational safety and health issues at [00:13:13] workplace, our intention as [00:13:17] a union is to make sure that we handle osh [00:13:20] issues in hall, not just looking [00:13:24] at. now making sure that we have safety boot or [00:13:27] personal protective equipments, but we are talking [00:13:31] prevention, how can we prevent workplace [00:13:34] injuries, how can we prevent workplace [00:13:38] hazards, how can we make sure that a worker is [00:13:42] prevented from these um hazards that would cause [00:13:46] occupational safety and health diseases, because [00:13:49] remember our intention is not for [00:13:53] somebody to be affected at [00:13:56] workplace and then we start discussing issues [00:14:00] later, we want workers to be protected, so ours [00:14:03] is prevention, ours is to make sure that there is decent work [00:14:07] at work places, ours is to ensure [00:14:11] that there is total protection, that we even the [00:14:14] jobs that we have our workplaces are [00:14:18] good, that there is no sexual harassment at workplaces, [00:14:22] mean we are looking at all as a [00:14:26] whole, not a component. the draft [00:14:29] policy, which aims to eliminate [00:14:32] gender-based violence, harrastment in the [00:14:35] workplace, was a policy that was drafted in Nairobi, [00:14:39] Kenya. As the Deputy President of ITUC Africa, [00:14:43] are there specific situations that prompted [00:14:46] ITUC Africa to take this [00:14:49] initiative? my message would be that [00:14:52] countries ratify convention. number 155 [00:14:56] on occupational safety and health and [00:15:00] domesticated and when i say to domesticate [00:15:03] is to make sure that it is implemented at the country [00:15:07] level, not just ratifying and not [00:15:10] implementing. [00:15:12] you know, if we do not um ratify these [00:15:16] conventions, of course they are binding because they have been ratified [00:15:20] by other countries and we are member states and whether we ratify [00:15:24] or not it's binding, but it would be good to [00:15:27] ratify and to domesticate, [00:15:31] because once domesticated, then it means that the country [00:15:35] is ready implement. the the the [00:15:39] convention that has been ratified, so I think my message [00:15:43] is that we ratify and domesticate these [00:15:46] conventions. I know many countries are saying that they have [00:15:50] maybe labor laws on occupational safety and health that [00:15:54] they are using and they feel that it is not necessary to ratify these [00:15:58] conventions, but I would say that it is very [00:16:01] important to ratify these conventions because only then [00:16:05] can you you know ' [00:16:08] implement and make sure that you can be [00:16:12] checking whether it is working or it's not working [00:16:16] and if it is not working what could be the the challenges [00:16:19] and how do you then mitigate uh then the risks that [00:16:23] are there? what are your observations as regards informal workers in [00:16:27] Africa? would you say that they have all the mechanism put in [00:16:31] place by various stakeholders to ensure that they have safe [00:16:35] workplace? yes um I [00:16:38] think first of all let me say that [00:16:42] um the largest employer is informal [00:16:45] sector, that is where we have [00:16:48] huge, huge membership [00:16:51] of workers and as a union [00:16:55] we are organizing informal sector workers, we have memorandum [00:16:59] of understanding with associations, informal [00:17:02] sector workers associations and we help [00:17:06] them. especially when it comes to occupational safety and [00:17:10] health issues, [00:17:11] you know informal sector workers do not have [00:17:15] protective equipments, personal protective equipments and [00:17:19] therefore we thought it wise to organize them so that we can [00:17:23] carry out some education to them, we can also give them a [00:17:27] platform, because many of times it is not easy for [00:17:31] them to get a platform where they can air their views, where they can air [00:17:35] their griviances and so... for us we have been [00:17:38] connecting them to the local authority to make sure that [00:17:42] they can air out their grieviances, but above all you [00:17:46] will also realize that i come from the metal sector and the [00:17:50] metal sector you would find that most of [00:17:53] our members in the informal sector are people working [00:17:57] either in the garage because they are either mechanics panel [00:18:01] beaters or spray painters and most [00:18:04] them um finished school and them could [00:18:08] not afford to go to colleges and so [00:18:11] they go to their uncles and they learn on [00:18:15] the job this um this work and so it is [00:18:19] also we decided to connect [00:18:23] them to the national industrial training authority so that they [00:18:27] can be satisfied certified at their places of [00:18:30] work and therefore we have those them who have been enrolled [00:18:34] in the in the program [00:18:38] uh so that they can be tested at [00:18:41] workplaces and they can do their exams and when [00:18:45] they pass, they can be graded and they can get government [00:18:49] grades, so that is what we are doing with [00:18:52] them, during and this is [00:18:56] done under recognition of prior learning, sharon, you [00:18:59] know we have the recognition of prior learning, [00:19:03] so this is where this informal sector workers fall. [00:19:07] under and that is why then the national industrial training [00:19:11] authority has to make some term programs for [00:19:15] them, test them and give them certificates with government [00:19:18] grades so that if they want to apply for formal [00:19:22] employment then they they can do so because they have [00:19:25] certificates. during the workshop there was several conversations as [00:19:29] regards how accident victim should access [00:19:33] care and there was this conversation as regards availability [00:19:37] of fund and maybe should countries um [00:19:41] institutionalized insurance um insurance [00:19:44] system in place to ensure that every worker is ensured both [00:19:48] formal or informal. in Nigeria where i [00:19:51] reside, we have insurance uh [00:19:55] sector or an agency uh managed by government, but not [00:19:59] everyone has been able to key into this system. you're the [00:20:02] deputy president of ituc Africa, you are based in [00:20:06] Nairobi, Kenya, what are your observations, what would be your [00:20:10] recommendations as regards accident victims [00:20:14] having access to f to ensure that they are [00:20:17] protected when accident happens? do [00:20:21] believe that um in the labor loss there is work [00:20:25] injury benefit act and in the work injury [00:20:28] benefit act it is stipulated when you [00:20:32] get accident what are the [00:20:35] reporting uh? criteria, the processes and the [00:20:39] procedures that are in place. once you report [00:20:43] such um occurrences, then the next step [00:20:47] of action is that the direct. of [00:20:50] occupational safety and health would look at the [00:20:54] the the form of accident, they would make [00:20:58] you feel the form which is requirement and they would they would [00:21:02] access uh the extent the [00:21:05] accident and be able to work on [00:21:08] compensation, so here in Kenya we do [00:21:12] not have different insurance, we have the work [00:21:16] injury benefit act that is normally used, we have [00:21:20] Osh act that is also used to make sure that [00:21:24] there is compensation whenever there are those [00:21:27] accidents, but Sharon, let tell you [00:21:29] that, as ITU see [00:21:32] Africa, our interest is to make [00:21:36] sure that there is whole protection, that the [00:21:40] workers do not get accident so that they are either [00:21:44] compensated or something of that nature. For [00:21:47] us, it is protection, not even. prevention, [00:21:51] protection, it is prevention also to make sure that [00:21:55] no worker is getting injured at the workplace [00:21:58] and to make sure that they can [00:22:02] work, walk into their workplace safely [00:22:06] and go back home safely without any [00:22:09] injuries. sounds very interesting, what would be your aspirations [00:22:13] in the next few years towards ensuring [00:22:17] safe workplace, decent work? and [00:22:21] also a workspace um free from sexual [00:22:24] harassment uh now that or is a [00:22:28] fundamental right, i do [00:22:31] believe that um [00:22:35] if the unions [00:22:38] work together with the [00:22:41] ministry and together [00:22:44] with the employers when the tripartite could come [00:22:48] together to develop um rules and [00:22:52] regulations that [00:22:54] guard um or that [00:22:58] would prevent workplace injuries [00:23:02] then that is going to work well for us. another [00:23:06] thing is to say that we have ilo convention number [00:23:10] 190 on ending [00:23:14] violence and harassment against men and women in the [00:23:17] world of work and there. Therefore, it is very [00:23:21] important that our countries ratify [00:23:25] this convention, so that when the convention [00:23:29] is ratified, we can have [00:23:32] workplaces that will not tolerate any form of [00:23:35] violence at workplace. Um, I also [00:23:39] believe that as workers and as social [00:23:43] partners, we can sit together and [00:23:46] agree on elimination of violence and harassment. at [00:23:50] workplaces, following what is already [00:23:54] stipulated in convention 190, i believe [00:23:58] that there are countries that have not ratified this convention, [00:24:01] but the convention is in force because many countries have [00:24:05] ratified and therefore it is binding to all other [00:24:09] countries, so i want to believe that the workers, the [00:24:12] employers and the government are a position [00:24:16] to work together to make sure that they eliminate violence. and [00:24:20] harassment at workplace. Thank you [00:24:24] very much for your time. I'm sure would have subsequent conversations [00:24:28] as regards ash and other issues that affect us in the [00:24:31] workplace. Thank you, thank you Sharon [00:24:35] for also taking your time to talk to me about this. And that's all we can [00:24:39] take today's edition the program. Join us next week for a fresh edition the [00:24:43] show. I am Sharony Jason. Thanks for watching and remember [00:24:47] that labor creates wealth. 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