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[00:00:00] Wherever the big news stories happening, we're
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[00:00:27] The road to the ballot box runs through these. chambers where
[00:00:31] laws are made, institutions are scrutinized and the
[00:00:34] decisions shape the future of our democracy.
[00:00:38] welcome to the hallow chambers where we connect the work the
[00:00:41] legislature to the lives of nigerians.
[00:00:48] begin with some news
[00:00:49] of updates from the national
[00:00:50] assembly. the
[00:00:55] of presidential working group on the national policing bill says state police
[00:00:58] will strengthen federalism and bring policing
[00:01:02] closer to communities, speaking at the second
[00:01:06] annual distinguished parliamentarian lecture in Abuja, the group's
[00:01:10] secretary Naduben Mogalu challenge
[00:01:13] governors to back their commitments to protecting lives and
[00:01:17] property with adequate funding. He also addressed
[00:01:20] concerns about possible political interference in
[00:01:24] state policing. The
[00:01:26] of lecture organized by the House of Representatives Press Court.
[00:01:30] examine the role
[00:01:31] of the state police tacknel insecurity, the speaker
[00:01:35] of the house and other stakeholders renewed calls for stronger
[00:01:39] law enforcement and accountable citizen
[00:01:43] a
[00:01:43] of centered policing. the governors who prioritize security
[00:01:46] will fund security and in fairness
[00:01:50] to
[00:01:51] of governors, many state governors are already spending tremendous
[00:01:55] amounts of money supporting the federal security services that
[00:01:59] up. in their states, part
[00:02:02] of the problem is that in the absence of proper
[00:02:06] of structures, those funding, those resources don't give you the
[00:02:10] results that you desire. state police, if
[00:02:13] conceived and implemented with constitutional rights and
[00:02:16] rigore, strong oversight, adequate resources
[00:02:20] and
[00:02:22] of respect for human rights can be manyful instrument for securing
[00:02:26] communities and deepening our federal democracy,
[00:02:30] policy and
[00:02:31] of community engagement and
[00:02:36] of decentralizations are essentials in
[00:02:37] of sustainable development. The Nigerian police
[00:02:40] force remain committed to
[00:02:44] supporting constitutional,
[00:02:48] legislative.
[00:02:52] The Director General
[00:02:53] of the National Institute for Legislative and Democratic Studies
[00:02:57] Abrakar Suleiman says financial autonomy. for
[00:03:00] of state assemblies must come with accountability and
[00:03:03] transparency speaking as a
[00:03:05] in training program for the Nasara State House of Assembly
[00:03:09] Service Commission
[00:03:10] me in Abuja, he called for stronger
[00:03:12] of administration and more professional parliamentary staff.
[00:03:16] Suleiman urged the commission to prioritize merit and improve
[00:03:20] staff management.
[00:03:22] of Representatives
[00:03:22] in of the commission pledged to use the training to improve service
[00:03:27] of delivery. Our outputs, our impact. our
[00:03:30] services, i think is
[00:04:37] house of representatives committee on electoral matters has asked INEC
[00:04:41] to audit candidates for the 2027 elections and
[00:04:44] disqualify those whose names are missing from their parties membership
[00:04:48] registers.
[00:04:50] in a letter to the commission, committee chairman bayor balogun
[00:04:53] cited the supreme court's judgement upholding
[00:04:57] section 77 sub5
[00:04:59] of the electoral. Act 2026. The provision limits
[00:05:03] participation in party primaries, congresses and
[00:05:06] conventions to
[00:05:08] of members listed in the party register. The committee said the rule.
[00:05:12] had resolved the legal uncertainty earlier raised by
[00:05:16] INEC, it urged the commission to enforce compliance
[00:05:19] across all parties without delay, saying this would
[00:05:23] help prevent avoidable election disputes. We'll take a
[00:05:27] quick break and when we return, hello chambers will
[00:05:30] continue.
[00:05:35] Welcome back, as preparations for the 2027
[00:05:38] elections gather pace, inex recent briefing and
[00:05:42] stakeholder engagement have brought electoral readiness into
[00:05:46] sharper focus from funding and technology to
[00:05:50] security and public confidence. what must be done to turn
[00:05:54] preparation into a credible election and how can the national
[00:05:57] assembly strengthen that process while safeguarding the
[00:06:01] independence the electoral umpire. joining me to
[00:06:05] advance this conversation is the chairman the house of
[00:06:08] representatives
[00:06:16] me. Now following Inex recent briefing, how confident are
[00:06:20] you that the commission is on track for the 2027
[00:06:23] elections and what gives you that confidence and
[00:06:27] where do you think serious work still needs to be done? Well,
[00:06:31] I think following the recent elections,
[00:06:35] uh, the offices elections at in Ekiti
[00:06:39] and Oshu and the more recent.
[00:06:42] by-election in Kanu and some other states, you
[00:06:46] see how prepared inec is in
[00:06:50] terms of the procedure
[00:06:53] and uh the outcome the
[00:06:56] elections, in the in the last elections, I don't think
[00:06:59] anybody has actually gone to court, because what we want to
[00:07:03] achieve is to achieve a free, fear and
[00:07:06] credible election, and if out of
[00:07:09] about uh three major... elections
[00:07:12] and uh about six by
[00:07:15] elections, nobody has actually gone to court to
[00:07:19] challenge the process, that means Nigeria
[00:07:22] comfortable with the with ine
[00:07:25] preparation, and
[00:07:26] what in just did on Tuesday is to tell Nigerians in terms
[00:07:30] of logistics, because the ones they've been having are
[00:07:33] just off circle, just one state or so few states, but
[00:07:37] in terms of taking the whole country together we must be prepared in terms of
[00:07:41] logistics. so the issue, the majority the discussion on that
[00:07:45] day was actually on logistics, because in terms the
[00:07:48] outcome and procedure the election, I think
[00:07:52] INEc has done perfectly well, your committee wants INEc
[00:07:56] to disqualify candidates whose names are missing from their
[00:08:00] parties submitted membership registers, but does
[00:08:03] INEc actually have the legal authority to do that without a
[00:08:07] court ruling, and what point does
[00:08:10] parliamentary overside? become interference in the
[00:08:14] commission's independence, well uh, when it
[00:08:18] comes to the law, the parliament makes the law
[00:08:22] and there's what
[00:08:23] you call the spirit the law, why do you actually make this
[00:08:27] law? our objective, like i said is to have free,
[00:08:31] fear, credible election, and in terms
[00:08:34] of litigations too, we want a situation
[00:08:37] where elections, pre-election matters will be concluded before
[00:08:41] the general election. and uh the general election to
[00:08:45] the post litigation post election litigation to
[00:08:49] will be concluded before the swearing in of any winner, so
[00:08:53] if we we want to achieve this then we must look at what are
[00:08:57] the issues, what are the we are the what are the
[00:09:00] ways by which we can actually reduce the number of people
[00:09:04] that goes to call the the number of litigations and the
[00:09:08] time of litigation, the period
[00:09:11] and uh one the things we find out is that most
[00:09:15] these litigations are usually
[00:09:18] pre-election and uh which that means
[00:09:22] elections are dictation that comes out the primaries
[00:09:25] the political parties
[00:09:28] so we we amended the law
[00:09:31] to ensure that we don't have
[00:09:35] people byying in
[00:09:38] two three political parties at the same time.
[00:09:42] and uh that's what what brought in the section 77
[00:09:46] 4, that means every political party is
[00:09:50] expected to submit the
[00:09:52] register for for of membership of
[00:09:56] members for that period, if if
[00:10:00] your name is not on the register as at the
[00:10:04] time, i think it's the the provisions is 21
[00:10:08] days before the primaries of that political party, that
[00:10:11] means that candidate or that uh
[00:10:15] aspirant name that is not on the register
[00:10:18] cannot become the candidate the party and if the
[00:10:22] party does not also submit. the
[00:10:26] register, that means such a party will not be able to
[00:10:29] participate in that general election,
[00:10:33] so if you have made the law and we don't want a situation
[00:10:37] where we be having litigation in
[00:10:41] court up to one two years, then what do
[00:10:45] we do, we ensure that the writing is done at the right
[00:10:49] time, beyond inec what three things must be in place
[00:10:53] before your committee can conf ently tell Nigerians that
[00:10:57] the commission is ready for 2027 and if those
[00:11:00] targets are not met, what actions will your committee
[00:11:04] take? well uh, like I said, in terms
[00:11:06] the electoral process,
[00:11:09] the the technology
[00:11:13] and the procedure put in place
[00:11:16] binic, I think we are we we can say we are
[00:11:20] fully comfortable with position of neck, but when it comes
[00:11:24] to logistic... until the final
[00:11:27] day you cannot uh put your mind at rest, so
[00:11:31] neck must be its toes ensuring that they get the logistics
[00:11:35] right, you know because they don't have control over this logistics uh
[00:11:39] movement of materials they have to engage the
[00:11:41] NW for example to move materials for
[00:11:45] them uh they they engage the
[00:11:47] Nigerian uh air force to move some
[00:11:51] the materials so studying.
[00:11:55] the central bank, so there
[00:11:56] are lot of other thought parties that are involved, so it's not just about high
[00:12:00] neck, it's about ensuring that there synergy between all the
[00:12:04] stakeholders so that there won't be any breakdown,
[00:12:07] because it's all is just about
[00:12:10] perception, because they've given the
[00:12:13] timeline, when are the material supposed to get to the reck, when are
[00:12:17] the material supposed even get to the state, from the state it get to
[00:12:21] the rex, from the rex now it gets each.
[00:12:25] polling unit, what time will you get to the polling unit is
[00:12:29] also very important and this got to do with the size the
[00:12:32] areas in my for example
[00:12:35] my local government has the largest landms in lagus and with different
[00:12:38] terrains the way it gets to do some words is different from the time to get
[00:12:42] some other words so i think is also trying even
[00:12:45] break some these uh words situation
[00:12:49] where
[00:12:51] uh vehicle might be used for one word that is very small
[00:12:55] you must have some words that are very big so they are looking at their logistics now,
[00:12:59] how do you break it down so that they might get some vehicle three vehicles for some
[00:13:02] worldwide some what would use one so it's a lot of serious
[00:13:06] planning and uh to ensure that we get it right
[00:13:10] because between the last between 2019
[00:13:14] election and 2023 election we've had increment
[00:13:17] in the number of units the units
[00:13:21] have expanded even some areas has doubled so these part the things that
[00:13:25] affects
[00:13:27] the the logistics and that's why they're even increasing the number
[00:13:30] of uh um this machines they are using the beavers
[00:13:34] and all the pulling units cubics and everything
[00:13:37] so but in terms of getting their logistics right when
[00:13:41] it comes to procurement from what the chairman said uh
[00:13:45] all the procurements have been made that's the very important thing because some
[00:13:49] materials are not just bought on the shelf they have to be
[00:13:52] ordered and they have to be produced so those major ones
[00:13:56] have been done when we talk about beavers and uh the
[00:14:00] cubicles and all those softwares so i think those ones are in
[00:14:04] place so i think we good to go honorable balogu
[00:14:08] inec is talking about using artificial intelligence to
[00:14:12] verify election results in 2027 what
[00:14:16] exactly will this technology verify and has your committee seeing any
[00:14:19] evidence that it actually works or are ningerans being
[00:14:23] asked to trust another technological promise?
[00:14:27] Nigerians are the one asking for technology, every
[00:14:31] time we want to real time this, we want real time that, we want, you see
[00:14:35] Nigeria, when it comes to election management, we have one
[00:14:39] these, if not the moscated system in place
[00:14:43] now, uh, biometric
[00:14:45] recognition, accreditation of voters, it's only
[00:14:49] done in Nigeria and some few, very few
[00:14:52] countries, Germany and some other. countries even in America
[00:14:55] they don't do biometric recognition, you just go with your id card and they will identify
[00:14:59] you, so but what we are trying to do in Niger is what are the
[00:15:03] problems, the major problem in Nigeria
[00:15:06] election, number one is the issue of
[00:15:10] proxy voting, multiple voting and przy voting, how do
[00:15:14] we solve it, and that's why we brought in
[00:15:17] biometrics, biometrics is that you cannot be, if you
[00:15:20] are not there it cannot work, nobody can vote on your
[00:15:24] behalf and just introduced the electronics
[00:15:28] ecata now we are instead
[00:15:32] of just snapping the form that we used to have inec the
[00:15:36] presiding officer is not expected. to also imput the result
[00:15:39] into the beevers and now it's not possible for the
[00:15:43] beevers now to calculate all the results including
[00:15:47] void and everything and check it with the accredited
[00:15:51] number of voters so if it doesn't tally
[00:15:55] if
[00:15:55] it is more than it then it will not go it will not send but if it is
[00:15:59] lower yes you can have more accredited voter than the
[00:16:03] the actual voters someone can do accreditation and decide not to vote but
[00:16:07] cannot vote without being accredited, so the total
[00:16:11] number of voters on that day must not be more than the accredited
[00:16:15] voter from that unit, you see that will not eradicate overvoting
[00:16:19] entirely, and when you're talking about AI, every
[00:16:22] technologies
[00:16:23] can be regarded as AI, because it's artificial intelligence, as long
[00:16:27] as you bring in technology, you are using the computer, it's just the
[00:16:31] level that differs, so when they said they have be deploying
[00:16:34] AI, I think by immediaty we start. with
[00:16:37] beevs
[00:16:40] and uh IRF and all this thing here is already in place and with the
[00:16:44] electronic from east now that means we are
[00:16:48] actually uh being compliance in terms of
[00:16:51] technology. INEc has announced the dedicated AI
[00:16:54] division, but its AI governance policy is reportedly still
[00:16:58] being finalized. Shouldn't the rules and save guards being
[00:17:02] placed before the technology is deployed and has your committee
[00:17:06] examined how inex. intends to prevent errors,
[00:17:09] manipulation or misuse.
[00:17:12] now we've had ICT department, if
[00:17:16] they just call it AI like I said, it's
[00:17:19] just you have your ICT department, you know everybody wants to
[00:17:23] say we are more compliant than uh the other, so if if
[00:17:27] they now call it AI, well I don't reason why they just have to make it
[00:17:31] ai, ICT is enough, everything you are doing is still under
[00:17:35] ICT, so they would have just limited. the
[00:17:38] the
[00:17:40] the the nomenclature to ICT, but if they call it a high, probably to
[00:17:44] make them look good to the gens who
[00:17:48] are the majority in terms
[00:17:50] of when it comes to election, the number of participant in the
[00:17:54] election, but in the important thing is that every political
[00:17:58] party has their own agent, every political party is
[00:18:01] expected to colate their own
[00:18:04] results and if you have this
[00:18:07] discrepancies then you notify
[00:18:10] Inec, the N chairman will will not be on ground on day
[00:18:14] of election, all the people that will be on ground day of election are
[00:18:18] are dog stuff, so even if the
[00:18:21] the chairman is your brother, he cannot
[00:18:25] help you, it's the adock staff that will conduct election and they don't belong to any
[00:18:29] party, they are not civil servants, they are just inec,
[00:18:32] mean nys
[00:18:35] copers, so "that is
[00:18:38] area we must all concentrate on, your unit, elections are
[00:18:42] one at the unit, let every political party
[00:18:46] take the agents in their unit very, very
[00:18:50] seriously. all right, let's take a quick break, we still continue this
[00:18:53] conversation, don't go anywhere, we'll be right back. every week I
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[00:19:37] Honorable Banogu, now Nigerians will naturally expect your
[00:19:41] committee to do more than hold meetings and receive
[00:19:45] briefings from INEC. What specific commitments
[00:19:49] can you make before the 2027 elections and how should
[00:19:53] Nigerians measure whether your committee has
[00:19:56] delivered? Look, we are law makers, our job is to
[00:20:00] make law and conduct overersight, we are not
[00:20:03] inic, so there's limit to what we can. do
[00:20:07] and we cannot do the work the political parties for them. i've just told
[00:20:11] you that look all we can do and uh
[00:20:15] is advocacy to encourage more
[00:20:18] advocacy at all tiress inek to do his
[00:20:21] own political parties are the ones that wts this
[00:20:25] election that the one contesting and civil
[00:20:29] societies too should do more
[00:20:32] advocacy will come with the
[00:20:35] guideline guideline of last election.
[00:20:37] know might be different from this one, it's not for people to say, oh
[00:20:40] we know how we used to do it, no, how
[00:20:42] you don't you used to do it, you do it according to what guideline
[00:20:45] inec is bringing, don't rely on
[00:20:49] what you did in the last election, even in the law, you don't rely on
[00:20:53] what electoral of 2022 says, it is
[00:20:57] 2026 now. all right, honorable balug, as we wrap up the
[00:21:00] conversation, one the biggest concerns from previous
[00:21:04] elections has been the gap between what happens at the polling
[00:21:08] units and what nigerians eventually see during
[00:21:11] collation. how can neck make the entire process more
[00:21:15] transparent, particularly when the technology fails
[00:21:18] and how do we ensure that you know technical
[00:21:22] failures don't become excuse for questionable
[00:21:26] results? you see, let's focus on
[00:21:30] the main thing, which is to have a credible
[00:21:33] election, free, fear and credible, yes, to
[00:21:37] be free is to ensure that there's adequate security and
[00:21:41] everybody have free access and even taking care of all
[00:21:44] the uh people with challenges and all the rest, and
[00:21:48] we are talking about, to be for the election to be
[00:21:51] credible is is, i think it's a duty of everyone of us
[00:21:55] and elections are conducted by political parties, because we
[00:21:59] should not somehow mix what the public is saying and what the
[00:22:02] political party is saying, there's no political party in the last
[00:22:06] election to my own knowledge that went to court
[00:22:10] at this to say that we score 300
[00:22:14] so in so so place, but what was reflected was
[00:22:18] 150. those are the times
[00:22:21] that you can say this, there were discrepancies in the
[00:22:24] result, the delay of results or
[00:22:28] seeing it on the RF or not seeing it on the RF does not change
[00:22:32] the results during the last uh election
[00:22:36] to we had at some areas the results came in very late on the
[00:22:40] RF
[00:22:41] but at the end the ask people were there differences between what
[00:22:45] came in and what were posted but nobody came out to
[00:22:49] say yes we had discripances in one or two areas and nobody had
[00:22:53] actually gone to court, because what the what happened in 2023
[00:22:56] election w more of cases on
[00:22:59] qualification, mr. president was taken to court
[00:23:03] on various angles of which all borders on qualification
[00:23:07] or non-qualification, eligibility or noneligibility, so these
[00:23:11] are not issues that got to do with neck, these are issues i
[00:23:14] got to do with you challenging candidate
[00:23:18] for eligible. and cannot remove anybody
[00:23:22] on that basis unless a court says so political party
[00:23:26] now should also ensure that
[00:23:29] they put the right people to uh
[00:23:33] cover for their elections and for the public please
[00:23:37] we we have to be very very patient and uh we should
[00:23:41] know that the the final result of an
[00:23:44] election should be what we should be waiting for don't
[00:23:48] rely on speculative
[00:23:52] results, some sometimes because someone won a
[00:23:55] unit or local government and the out orchestrating it and
[00:23:59] shouting does not make them win the general
[00:24:03] election, election result is the
[00:24:06] cumulation of all the results
[00:24:10] and all the units, you can win a state,
[00:24:13] you can win in f 6 states and we have 36 states until
[00:24:16] you see the final result please do don't go
[00:24:20] around and start sposting a winner or
[00:24:24] who has not won, it's that's what usually cause some of this
[00:24:27] problem that oh we were winning up till so so
[00:24:31] so time and things now changed if the if they announce the
[00:24:35] area that you have strength from beginning yes you actually be
[00:24:38] winning but by time they start announcing the areas where some other
[00:24:42] political party have their own strength yes it will change but the issue
[00:24:46] is is there any proof that there were manipulations?
[00:24:50] let's come up with proofs, let's come out with evidence so that
[00:24:54] what our argument with the evidence based, not emotionally based, is
[00:24:58] not because I like Mr. A and I feel he's going to win, he must win,
[00:25:02] no, nobody must win, it is what they what
[00:25:05] Nigerian says that will happen on the day of election, no matter how much
[00:25:09] I love my own candidate, I can't, my, I just have one
[00:25:13] vote, my one vote cannot make him the winner,
[00:25:17] and uh, so we want to appeal to every one of us and "we should lower
[00:25:20] our expectation, let's don't let
[00:25:24] our emotion overtake our reasoning on the
[00:25:27] day of election.
[00:25:39] the national assembly, the responsibility is to make the electoral laws
[00:25:42] work, and for ineck is is to deliver a process
[00:25:46] non-jerans can trust, and for political parties
[00:25:49] it is to..." respect the rules they expect others to
[00:25:52] obey. The measures of success is whether every
[00:25:56] eligible voter can participate freely, every
[00:25:59] valley vote counts and the declared outcome. reflects the
[00:26:03] people's choice. our
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