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[00:00:00] 'I of think it might be demolished okay so and
[00:00:04] reconstructed and reconstructed yes let let me
[00:00:07] um break this question down cuuse you know uh on
[00:00:11] paper we see
[00:00:12] of that the president is doing well uh the macro level we've discussed
[00:00:16] it over and over on the stable we see that things are working out businesses are
[00:00:20] coming in from outside the country people are
[00:00:22] investing and it seems like our economy is stable
[00:00:26] but the majority of nigerians are still feeling the harshness'. the
[00:00:30] economy, majority of Nigerians, their purchasing power has
[00:00:34] dropped drastically, they are not able to really fend
[00:00:37] in for themselves, to feed, transportation is high, cost of food is
[00:00:41] high, healthcare and all of that. How do you think what
[00:00:45] the president is doing can reflect so that Nigerians at the
[00:00:49] grassroot level can feel the positive
[00:00:52] impact of what we say the president is doing? yeah,
[00:00:56] people
[00:00:57] of had of asked me that um, things are hard, I also
[00:01:00] acknowledge that fact and then I hope that it
[00:01:04] can be better and then the truth
[00:01:07] of the matter is that there is lot of intervention by the federal
[00:01:11] government and um look at nail fund
[00:01:15] if somebody is
[00:01:17] of paying giving your awards the tution
[00:01:20] fee giving him money to feed and what are you
[00:01:24] and you can imagine the number of student we have in
[00:01:28] Nigeria and that is a
[00:01:30] direct direct help to the
[00:01:34] parents
[00:01:35] of so to speak, because otherwise the money will come from the parents
[00:01:39] and the money will come from the parent, so when he
[00:01:43] is doing something like that is a direct um
[00:01:46] help to the students and because
[00:01:49] of naturally um the population can also
[00:01:53] of be uh 18 for worries, but
[00:01:56] when the young ones are being educated.
[00:02:00] giving opportunities, those are the one that will develop
[00:02:03] Nigeria in the future, investment in them is investment in
[00:02:07] the future
[00:02:09] of the nation, and there are other
[00:02:11] other other intervention given all
[00:02:15] these basis um the CNG CNG
[00:02:19] bussings and you will know that earlier
[00:02:22] of the there was free
[00:02:25] a
[00:02:25] of confusion from petrol to gas and all what are you
[00:02:29] and and the and the stations are still functional as we speak
[00:02:33] right now, i think that um also we need to even
[00:02:36] speak um to ourselves, especially the
[00:02:39] middleman, middleman,
[00:02:42] um, my friend
[00:02:44] of told me that um, he bought some five tubs of yams
[00:02:48] in sura market in the local
[00:02:50] of government for 65, 65, and it
[00:02:54] was able to buy the same set of yar
[00:02:56] at mile 12 for less than 20
[00:03:01] of n yeah five tubs of year for less than
[00:03:04] of 20,000 and um i don't think that the
[00:03:07] transportation course um could be responsible
[00:03:11] for the large um
[00:03:14] of differential in prices, i think our people needs to be talk to they should not make
[00:03:18] kill um during these hard time they should
[00:03:22] be able to also be compassion it minimal profit minimal
[00:03:27] of profit that keep everybody going and then i
[00:03:31] think we need to speak to ourselves and
[00:03:34] um because the petrol had gone up a little
[00:03:37] of why triple uh fears of transportation
[00:03:41] fears because that i is
[00:03:45] to be spread shared amongst like 16
[00:03:49] 15
[00:03:50] a passengers not one people should carry should carry the
[00:03:54] burden of it so everybody needs to be spoken to nobody should
[00:03:57] of make kill and
[00:03:58] you think that to develop is not for government alone, the government should
[00:04:02] do is, but it's for everybody to contribute their quotas
[00:04:06] to the development of our nation, i have a car i've converted to
[00:04:10] of CNG and buy cng, i agree with you
[00:04:14] sir that um Nigerians should not make kill, lot
[00:04:17] of the commercial buses have converted, but they charge on petrol
[00:04:21] price uh range, so that is fact
[00:04:25] out there, but
[00:04:26] the there's also the fact that the CNG stations are empty, they are locked up right?
[00:04:30] now most
[00:04:30] of them do not have products, yeah, that's from a consumer point of
[00:04:34] view, um, but you are chairman house committee on
[00:04:38] marine transport and I would like to know what reforms you have
[00:04:41] worked on, what you are pushing on the floor
[00:04:43] of the senate to see that our ports work and our
[00:04:47] a maritime sector create more jobs for Nigerians, uh, well, I think that the
[00:04:50] federal government are taking the b step
[00:04:54] to initiate
[00:04:56] of the
[00:04:58] of total rehabilitation of our port you. the ports, Legos Port
[00:05:01] especially, is more than 100 years that it was
[00:05:04] constructed, and the debt is like
[00:05:09] of 13 of meters and the new... um
[00:05:13] ships um now they have about 16
[00:05:16] um 16 meters in uh draft and then that means
[00:05:20] they cannot bt in legal sport so we are losing
[00:05:24] as it were businesses to other other
[00:05:28] countries along the west coast but you recall that the federal
[00:05:32] government had signed um an
[00:05:35] mou and agreement with foreign
[00:05:38] investors um to totally rehabilitate.
[00:05:42] say the nigerian ports and it will take like two years
[00:05:45] and then also the not only legos port
[00:05:49] other eastern ports will be developed however while this
[00:05:53] is going on they are going to divert as it were traffic
[00:05:57] to the instant ports to take all
[00:06:00] the vessels that were supposed to come to Lagos where
[00:06:04] Lagos take minimal um number of ships
[00:06:07] for them to be ready lot of things is been done the boat
[00:06:11] to so that there can be transportation during night and
[00:06:15] then they also increase their capacity as ligos is been
[00:06:19] done they will revert to um the
[00:06:23] eastern ports and make lot of development and new
[00:06:27] ports are also being built and then you will see
[00:06:31] the dangote trying to do
[00:06:32] the olokula you also see that the the legos and
[00:06:36] government had also signed
[00:06:39] another another mou for another. port to be
[00:06:43] develop, developed in August 8th, not
[00:06:46] forgetting the APM is also going to
[00:06:50] redevelop or expand, no they have a
[00:06:53] private port in Legos, they are going to expand that, and they are also
[00:06:57] interested as it were in developing badagre port,
[00:07:00] the ebom port is also there for development,
[00:07:03] is a port that will have natural
[00:07:07] debt of about 17, 16
[00:07:11] meters ' is on the
[00:07:14] ocean and then the sapel airport is also going
[00:07:18] to be developed and then whole lot of things is
[00:07:22] happening in the maritime sector and then there
[00:07:26] are bills various bills like we have like 10 different
[00:07:30] bills in the national uh assembly especially the
[00:07:33] senate for the reinvention as
[00:07:37] it were the maritime sector okay
[00:07:40] in Nigeria we just passed the... for regulation reform
[00:07:44] bill for the Nigerian shipers council has been assented
[00:07:48] to by the president and then the
[00:07:52] Nigerian port um reenactment
[00:07:55] bill is on cost in the
[00:07:58] maza um reenacted
[00:08:01] reenactment bill is also on course Nigerian inland waterways bill
[00:08:05] is there
[00:11:53] feel national assembly is too close to. to executive, how do you respond and
[00:11:57] where has senate shown
[00:11:58] independence? i
[00:12:01] think um, what is
[00:12:05] best for the country is a symbiotic
[00:12:08] relationship between the executive and the legislature? i've been,
[00:12:11] i've been in the legislature for
[00:12:15] uh right now more than um 15 years, so i should know
[00:12:18] the difference, was a member of legos house of assembly for like 12
[00:12:22] years before good. to the national
[00:12:26] assembly a symbiotic where both can draw from each
[00:12:29] other strength um the way the const
[00:12:33] constitution is developed is not for
[00:12:36] a an arm of government to do it all when
[00:12:40] you look at the constitution says that the
[00:12:43] executive will execute and projects but they
[00:12:47] don't make the legislation uh
[00:12:51] for for for for themselves that should be done by
[00:12:55] the legislators and the legislature also
[00:12:59] cannot write and finish legislation by
[00:13:03] itself, even after all consideration, after the third reading, you
[00:13:07] still have to give it back to the executive to
[00:13:10] assent, so the the way the it is develop,
[00:13:14] it is for them to have a symbiotic relationship where
[00:13:17] you the complement each
[00:13:21] other, but can you question, can the legislature question, can they refuse can? they
[00:13:25] call to order because they are calling the legislature right now uh a rubber
[00:13:29] stamp the executive, the
[00:13:32] legislature always call to other
[00:13:35] different um executive
[00:13:38] um be the presidency or the agency of
[00:13:42] government, if you want to know you can just
[00:13:46] google how many probe is on at the national
[00:13:49] assembly, how many how many agency of government are
[00:13:52] they looking at their? performance visas
[00:13:56] corruption or executing the
[00:14:00] manage for which they were established, when you look at that
[00:14:03] you will know that um the fact that there is no fight between
[00:14:07] aquabio and tinubu does not mean that there is
[00:14:11] nothing that is nothing going on under it, but for
[00:14:15] responsible legislature is not supposed to when you
[00:14:19] are doing things are supposed to before you even
[00:14:22] get um to the bottom of it it's is all over
[00:14:26] in the press and sometim when we have that kind of situation you do not
[00:14:29] get results, we do not get result,
[00:14:32] so we are the watch dog and we continue to do our job,
[00:14:36] but we also we continue to collaborate as it were with the
[00:14:40] federal executive
[00:14:43] council of so that we do not want to be an
[00:14:46] impediment or inndrances to development, especially at
[00:14:50] this critical um period in the national
[00:14:54] development. to where a lot is going on in the
[00:14:57] country and then the the was
[00:15:01] what will be worse is for us, the legislature and
[00:15:05] executive to be trading bars and working at cross
[00:15:09] purposes with each other, well we can call each
[00:15:13] other to action, we when we see things
[00:15:17] we don't not like, it's not like it must be a minister
[00:15:21] or a general manager of one the agen of government that will be responsible.
[00:15:25] so we have all the rights and privileges to call them to order and when
[00:15:29] they do not come we
[00:15:32] senate have the president or the the speaker the house of representatives
[00:15:36] to issue. arrest warrant and I'm not sure that is
[00:15:40] any general manager or a minister of government that
[00:15:44] want that kind of d to be arrested and then you
[00:15:47] know even after that there are other measures that can
[00:15:51] be deployed to to put a
[00:15:54] minister in check we may not even approved his budget
[00:15:58] we can refuse to we may still pass general budget and refuse to
[00:16:02] allocate resources to that minister
[00:16:05] unless we are. able to see that is going
[00:16:09] to work for the interest of nigerians and Nigeria,
[00:16:12] so we are a symbolic
[00:16:16] collaborative um relations for nation
[00:16:19] building, it does not serve any purpose for us to work at
[00:16:23] cross purpose, but we will not abdicate our
[00:16:27] responsibility that is bestowed on us by the
[00:16:31] constitution the federal um uh constitution the federal
[00:16:35] republic of Nigeria, All right sir,
[00:16:38] you know when MBC was introducing you, she talked about your town hall
[00:16:41] meetings and your 11th town hall meeting
[00:16:45] recently empowered 2,0 constituents and 300 students and
[00:16:49] distributed over 1 million exercise books to
[00:16:52] 166 public schools, why would you
[00:16:56] say this model of directly touching them, why
[00:17:00] would why would you prefer to use that and how effective is
[00:17:03] it? uh well in terms of um
[00:17:08] um, whatever we want to do, we look at the
[00:17:11] desirability the program, it's
[00:17:14] desirable, if it's acceptable, and if it
[00:17:18] will bring the desired um results
[00:17:22] for the empowerment of like 2000
[00:17:26] and beneficiaries whereby we gave million each
[00:17:29] each the 93 was that we have
[00:17:32] another other institutions, it
[00:17:36] was because we felt that... um, you know that there are
[00:17:39] programs by the federal government whereby they give money to
[00:17:43] people pay into their accounts and
[00:17:47] then we call schemes and sometimes when they
[00:17:51] do all of this we do not get the desired result
[00:17:54] people would not readily acknowledge
[00:17:58] the receipt of such funds with other that
[00:18:01] by giving it different approach okay each word
[00:18:05] bring 10 people. yeah, so
[00:18:09] if you don't,
[00:18:12] you don't have that thing, it means that the chairman or the leader in that
[00:18:16] word is going to be held them responsib
[00:18:20] responsible, so that was why we did that, and then for
[00:18:23] the students, um, i think that was the second
[00:18:27] one, the first was 24, 25,
[00:18:31] 26 session where we gave like
[00:18:33] a million size books, we we were
[00:18:37] given to the students directly in in my
[00:18:40] constituency right now we have like
[00:18:44] 176 and secondary schools and then we gave each
[00:18:48] and we have like 18600 students and we gave
[00:18:51] each them six exercise books so when you do the
[00:18:55] arithmetic find that we have printed like over
[00:18:58] million yeah size books so there is it is easily
[00:19:02] track go to any secondary school and just ask any the student bring out
[00:19:06] your your notebooks size looks because nobody
[00:19:09] was left out and um so you cannot tell me that this one did
[00:19:13] not get or whatever for whatever reason so just do your and we
[00:19:17] have been doing that and find out that everybody has gotten
[00:19:21] ex we did for me the may the one we did in may was
[00:19:25] for 2026 2027 session because we
[00:19:29] knew as at that time that time by time they were resuming we will
[00:19:33] have gone into the electionaring period and we do not want electionaring
[00:19:37] to disturb what we wanted to do
[00:19:39] so we gave that and told this teachers hold it
[00:19:42] on as soon as it is september when they
[00:19:45] resume please distribute to all the student and they've done
[00:19:49] that for the scholarship to 300 students we've
[00:19:53] been doing that for like 18 years each session we
[00:19:57] give to uh we made the announcement put
[00:20:01] it in the prince media electronic media and we has people
[00:20:05] students from our district. to apply and they
[00:20:08] applied and we give to them and for this year we did not as
[00:20:12] it remove anybody, if you meet all the
[00:20:16] requirements you are given, you get it, no
[00:20:19] discrimination, nothing, and then
[00:20:23] the test testimony and then
[00:20:26] justify - continued
[00:20:30] scholarship and program of recent like two them were
[00:20:34] the best students in lasu - came to the office, they
[00:20:38] came by the office and to thank us and say that we
[00:20:42] also, and um, and then we get satisfaction, there was
[00:20:45] a time was coming to legos and
[00:20:49] then i was..." one the commitee shows and i think we were three
[00:20:53] then and then we were at radis in blue
[00:20:57] by the pool and then we were working me the chairman and one
[00:21:00] other person and then some the those were swimming came to us
[00:21:04] and like they greeted us frustrated and said
[00:21:08] do you know i don't know you guys i said we are
[00:21:12] those you were given scholarship so you felt
[00:21:15] elated you felt that is internal joy yes
[00:21:20] these and then we'll continue to do that because some other people have done
[00:21:24] that to us in the past,
[00:21:27] thank so is less than 100 days to the
[00:21:30] elections and i'd like to know what what you
[00:21:34] think inec should do, what political parties and citizens should do
[00:21:38] differently to ensure credible elections? ah
[00:21:42] well, credible election is for everybody from inec to
[00:21:46] those who fters and
[00:21:48] then to those who are um... contesting, but those who are
[00:21:52] contesting is to uh play a ball according to the
[00:21:56] electoral law, electoral guideline and
[00:21:59] then for for the uh
[00:22:03] enec is also to do their bit and for all of us to hold the
[00:22:06] sanctity the free and fair um elections
[00:22:10] and then also um the the
[00:22:14] voters should also be uh
[00:22:18] dispassionate. in them voting
[00:22:22] and then be able to assess and be able to look critically
[00:22:26] what they were expecting, what they've gotten and then
[00:22:29] what would they think can take them further? and
[00:22:33] i think that um everything
[00:22:37] seems to be right because i was one member the
[00:22:40] electoral committee for the senate and i know that we did a
[00:22:44] lot of good job to make sure that um the election
[00:22:48] holes peacefully. and for uh
[00:22:52] now we have even um
[00:22:54] adscribed fines to
[00:22:58] electoral offenses, finds and jail
[00:23:01] terms to electoral offenses in the
[00:23:04] new um electoral electoral law, the
[00:23:08] new electoral law and okay senator because of time we are almost at
[00:23:12] the end the show uh what's your message to ligutians and
[00:23:16] nigerians listening this morning, especially those who are anxious about
[00:23:20] future, especially with this uh elections that are around the
[00:23:23] corner? well, what I can tell uh,
[00:23:27] my people in the Lagos Central Senatorial district,
[00:23:31] so that the sheep the
[00:23:34] nation is being piloted by caffe Buans
[00:23:38] and by the president the nation, and those of us who are
[00:23:42] going to support him or who are going to play the roles in the
[00:23:45] legislature, will not remove our hands from the plow, we continue
[00:23:49] to to work for the progress the nation, they should
[00:23:53] hope for better things, as things are now, we knew that
[00:23:57] and we are hopeful and that um all these unintended
[00:24:01] consequences will be addressed um
[00:24:04] with passion and with everything that we have and
[00:24:08] then we hope Nigeria will be better place for
[00:24:11] it,