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[00:00:27] Karol Nawrocki was sworn in as president, what is your assessment of these
[00:00:31] 12 months? Well, it's not a good
[00:00:33] assessment, we can see it at gas stations, however,
[00:00:37] the vetoing of the law, completely incomprehensible, on excessive
[00:00:40] profits of fuel companies, concerns. Let's remember
[00:00:44] that these concerns charge a margin on fuel,
[00:00:48] if the fuel is more expensive, then this margin is, in total, net
[00:00:51] higher, therefore, it's difficult to
[00:00:54] understand this decision, it's difficult to understand the pardon of the old man,
[00:00:57] I'm sorry, he didn't veto, he just sent it to the tribunal...
[00:01:08] an act of grace, probably unworthy of a president, because
[00:01:11] pardoning someone for a stadium
[00:01:14] ban, well, soon, I don't know what he will
[00:01:17] pardon other people for,
[00:01:21] maybe for buying something wrong, that's a completely
[00:01:24] incomprehensible veto, especially for a person who is a stadium
[00:01:27] hooligan, was accused of beating a footballer, was accused
[00:01:31] of insulting people, that's a completely
[00:01:34] incomprehensible situation and a completely unserious situation for a president, but
[00:01:38] there are worse things than not taking
[00:01:42] the oath from the judges of the Constitutional Tribunal, legally
[00:01:45] elected by parliament, or
[00:01:47] for example, not appointing ambassadors
[00:01:50] of the Republic of Poland, this is already playing on the International
[00:01:54] Arena, and it is completely incomprehensible to veto
[00:01:57] the safe, we have today, for example, the
[00:02:00] case of drones over the airport in Lipsk, but we had a missile in Poland,
[00:02:04] we see that the threat to Poland and NATO is quite significant
[00:02:08] and vetoing this huge
[00:02:10] modernization program for the Polish army is completely
[00:02:14] incomprehensible by the President as the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, let's add, but
[00:02:18] also several times the President vetoed the cryptocurrency
[00:02:20] law, well, yes, but this is overlaid
[00:02:24] by the fact, of course, that Zbigniew Ziobro received
[00:02:27] transfers to his foundation of about half
[00:02:30] a billion zlotys, half a million zlotys, I'm sorry, from
[00:02:33] cryptocurrencies, Zonda Crypto, or also one of the MPs
[00:02:37] of the Confederation, or also an event financed
[00:02:40] by this by Zonda
[00:02:43] Crypto during the campaign of the President, a completely
[00:02:47] incomprehensible situation, when the President does not care, on the one hand, about
[00:02:50] the security of foreign policy, about the defense security of Poland or
[00:02:54] about the financial security of our citizens, these are
[00:02:58] things that really cast a shadow on
[00:03:01] this, well, however, this
[00:03:04] year of his term, because vetoing over 40 laws is
[00:03:08] something completely abnormal, 41 exact laws
[00:03:11] the President vetoed and there is a poll, apropos
[00:03:15] of these vetoes, over 52%, almost
[00:03:19] 53% of respondents believe that these vetoes
[00:03:22] result from political will, to
[00:03:26] whom does the President direct these vetoes or pardons?
[00:03:30] Of course, this is the fault of Tusk's government, Tusk's fault, who
[00:03:33] unlocked the KPO or started, for example, yesterday,
[00:03:36] the construction of a nuclear power plant, because the handover of the construction
[00:03:40] site or also the construction of ferries, which came true,
[00:03:44] the first of these ferries is already sailing, we remember we had
[00:03:47] styrofoam keels, the construction of offshore wind farms, from which
[00:03:51] the first electricity flows, or also
[00:03:54] causing the European Union to impose
[00:03:57] sanctions on Russia, the European Union...
[00:04:00] began to finance armaments, it reversed
[00:04:04] its priorities, this is the success of Prime Minister Donald
[00:04:08] Tusk's government, his personal position on the international arena, and it's a pity that
[00:04:11] the President cannot find, cannot
[00:04:15] rise above divisions in matters of Poland's security
[00:04:19] and foreign policy, this is completely incomprehensible, do you see
[00:04:22] a difference in the activities of President Andrzej Duda and
[00:04:25] President Karol Nawrocki? Well, of course I see
[00:04:29] a certain difference. But it's a difference like between
[00:04:32] Morawiecki and Kaczyński or Czarnik and Kaczyński
[00:04:35] and Morawiecki on the one
[00:04:38] hand, well, because here we also have PiS
[00:04:42] Bis and PiS, here we also have a president who destroyed
[00:04:45] the judiciary together with Ziobro, I'm talking about President Andrzej
[00:04:49] Duda, and now we have a president who doesn't want to
[00:04:52] rebuild it, I think that Mr. Kaczyński is still
[00:04:56] probably advising him in some way, or from overseas.
[00:05:01] And when you hear the President's spokesman say "hands off
[00:05:05] the President's prerogatives" to the rulers, what do you think? It's not about
[00:05:09] the rulers, it's about the citizens, citizens have the right to...
[00:05:13] know why the President takes certain actions, he is not
[00:05:16] the Sun King who doesn't have to explain anything to anyone,
[00:05:20] moreover, it didn't end well for the Sun King, but
[00:05:24] here there really
[00:05:27] cannot be a situation where the President takes some steps
[00:05:31] and no one knows about it, well,
[00:05:34] it led to the overthrow of the monarchy in France at some point, when
[00:05:38] the king behaved like that, and this president is not a king,
[00:05:41] the constitution applies,
[00:05:44] he was elected by citizens, let's remember, by a small
[00:05:48] majority of votes, we respect that choice, but we would like the
[00:05:51] President to also respect citizens and say why
[00:05:55] he pardoned, for example, the old man, he talks about his
[00:05:59] impeccable reputation in the environment, but in what environment? In
[00:06:02] an environment where they make stakes, well, that's probably not the best
[00:06:06] situation, also the lack of reaction from the President
[00:06:09] to attacks on... This is not the standard of politics
[00:06:32] and politics
[00:06:35] like from the West, however, a European
[00:06:38] politician, a politician. explains himself, even President
[00:06:43] Trump, who is probably a role model for President
[00:06:46] Nawrocki, explains some of his statements,
[00:06:49] explains his decisions, and that's what a press
[00:06:52] spokesman is for, let's remember, to explain
[00:06:55] the President's decisions, the President doesn't have to do it personally, but a press
[00:06:59] spokesman, if he is a professional, should do it,
[00:07:01] and Karol Nawrocki, in your opinion, is trying to break free on the
[00:07:05] right wing, I am convinced that he has already
[00:07:08] broken free. He probably listens to some
[00:07:12] hints from Mr. Braun or Mr. Kaczyński,
[00:07:15] but he definitely well, I don't want to say, because that's a very
[00:07:19] rude saying, that he broke free from the leash, but there is
[00:07:22] something to it, that Kaczyński lost him
[00:07:25] just as he lost the ability to control Morawiecki, so
[00:07:29] he probably also lost the ability to control Karol
[00:07:33] Nawrocki, although certainly PiS and
[00:07:36] the Confederation, especially the Polish Crown, are close to the heart of the
[00:07:40] President, so since we are already talking about Jarosław Kaczyński and Mateusz
[00:07:44] Morawiecki, let's first talk about Law and Justice, which lost
[00:07:47] 75% of its subsidy, because
[00:07:50] they incorrectly used funds in the election campaign in
[00:07:54] 2025, which means PiS is
[00:07:57] weakened by the lack of funds
[00:08:01] and resources, let's say that "incorrectly" is, Mr.
[00:08:04] Editor, very delicately put, I would say that they stole public
[00:08:07] funds, because if there were fictitious persons employed...
[00:08:11] these people worked for the election campaign or money was spent on people
[00:08:20] who were, well, wronged, meaning from the justice
[00:08:24] fund for the election campaign, or also
[00:08:27] picnics for the army were organized for the election
[00:08:31] campaign, as stated by the PKW, well, that's not just
[00:08:34] improper spending, it's also stealing our public
[00:08:38] funds, and that's why... they were punished
[00:08:41] by not receiving those next
[00:08:45] public funds, here we are constantly talking about public
[00:08:48] funds and just as the President should be transparent,
[00:08:52] so should every political party be transparent, here
[00:08:55] unfortunately Ziobro or other people from
[00:08:58] Mr. Kaczyński's entourage simply robbed us as
[00:09:02] a society, I will quote Prime Minister Donald Tusk, who
[00:09:05] commented on the court's verdict, "There is no money for swindlers,
[00:09:09] and there will be none."
[00:09:12] Sir, they were swindlers, besides, we see that
[00:09:16] two politicians are exiles, that is Mr. Ziobro and Mr.
[00:09:19] Romanowski, because they fled abroad, we also have
[00:09:23] the head of RaRS who fled to London and has no
[00:09:26] intention of returning, we also have Mr.
[00:09:29] the head of the Zonda Crypto platform, who also
[00:09:32] fled abroad, these are all people associated with Law and
[00:09:36] Justice, or the deputy head of Law and Justice, as in this
[00:09:39] case, Mr. Ziobro. Let's just remind you that the issue of subsidies for
[00:09:43] PiS began in 2024,
[00:09:47] because the National Electoral Commission then rejected the party's financial report
[00:09:50] from the parliamentary elections in 2023, and
[00:09:54] then these irregularities in the spending of campaign
[00:09:57] funds amounted to over 3.5 million zlotys, but
[00:09:59] if Law and Justice was weakened by
[00:10:03] finances or by its
[00:10:06] decisions during the election campaign, then
[00:10:09] now it has been weakened by its
[00:10:12] party member, Mateusz Morawiecki, who
[00:10:16] decided to divide the party into two
[00:10:20] parts. Well, on the one hand, one cannot blame Prime Minister Morawiecki's
[00:10:23] circle for not wanting to be with people like Kurski, Ziobro, or
[00:10:27] Matecki in one party, but on the
[00:10:30] other hand, let's see that we are dealing with PiS and PiS
[00:10:34] Bis, because Prime Minister Morawiecki, being prime minister, something
[00:10:38] he probably wanted to forget a bit, still
[00:10:41] signed off on laws destroying the judiciary, however,
[00:10:44] well, he was responsible for people like Święczkowski,
[00:10:48] like Pawłowicz, or like the former
[00:10:51] prosecutor ending up in
[00:10:55] the Constitutional Tribunal, he was responsible for
[00:10:58] the destruction of the National Council of the Judiciary, let's also
[00:11:01] remember that Prime Minister Morawiecki was famous for the famous
[00:11:05] styrofoam keel for ferries, now these
[00:11:08] ferries are, however, being
[00:11:10] built in the shipyard in Gdańsk, Prime
[00:11:14] Minister Morawiecki was famous for the famous car, I'm sorry,
[00:11:18] Izera or also the alleged
[00:11:20] construction of the CPK, the CPK was actually styrofoam.
[00:11:26] At present, Poland is being built, high-speed railways are being built,
[00:11:29] new counties are being reached by railways, we had the opening of
[00:11:32] railways in Łomża, soon it will be in Nowy Dwór or Bytów in
[00:11:36] Pomerania, we have however, the handover
[00:11:39] of the power plant construction
[00:11:43] site for the nuclear power plant, or also money
[00:11:46] flowed from offshore wind farms, by the way, the government of Prime Minister
[00:11:50] Donald Tusk started this, well, also the ministry where I work
[00:11:53] coordinates all ministries in spending funds from
[00:11:57] the KPO, at present 96.5% of these funds have been
[00:12:01] contracted, this is almost 240 billion
[00:12:04] zlotys, which will be pumped into the Polish economy, I had
[00:12:08] the opportunity yesterday to be, for example, in a hospital in Płock, it's a very small
[00:12:11] hospital, there new equipment for
[00:12:14] the cardiology department, or also previously a hospital in
[00:12:17] Malbork, we are not talking about large hospitals in
[00:12:20] agglomerations, we are talking about a hospital in Dzierżążno or in
[00:12:24] Starogard Gdański in Chojnice, of course also these hospitals in
[00:12:27] Tri-City or Warsaw, but these are, this is 18
[00:12:31] billion zlotys for healthcare, for digitalization, for
[00:12:34] cardiology, for oncology, these are huge amounts of money precisely for
[00:12:37] offshore wind farms, for railway lines, new train sets, really more and more
[00:12:41] it is clear how much the KPO and EU funds have worked in
[00:12:45] Poland and how well they are creating, because it is said that
[00:12:48] the KPO will mean a plus of 1.5% of GDP more in
[00:12:51] Poland, these are things that this government has achieved.
[00:12:55] despite the obstacles thrown at its feet, and Mr. Morawiecki
[00:12:58] simply could not do it, now he tries to be better, well, I
[00:13:01] am not surprised that he doesn't want to have anything to do with this xenophobic
[00:13:05] far-right, but on the other hand, it would be good if
[00:13:09] he didn't say that we gave Ukraine
[00:13:19] works in the department concerning changes to the pension
[00:13:22] law, because Katarzyna Pełczyńska (Minister of Funds
[00:13:26] says she would like childless women to work 5
[00:13:30] years longer than mothers, meaning equalizing the retirement age with
[00:13:33] men for women who do not have children. I understand that this
[00:13:37] is not a decision that comes from
[00:13:39] my department, which I have the honor to work in, which coordinates funds from
[00:13:43] the KPO or coordinates the spending of EU funds also by the marshals
[00:13:46] of the voivodeships, that is my responsibility, I understand that this is
[00:13:49] an initiative of Poland 2050, here as a politician of the Civic
[00:13:53] Coalition, I believe that this is a very bad decision,
[00:13:57] punishing anyone for, for example, not being able to have children or for the lack
[00:14:00] of an in vitro program, at present we have restored this in vitro
[00:14:03] program, of course we should support those
[00:14:07] who have children, we should support mothers who
[00:14:10] have given birth to children and are returning
[00:14:13] to work, let's remember that we introduced the so-called
[00:14:16] "granny-care" or "grandpa-care", as some prefer, meaning money for
[00:14:20] those from the family who sometimes take care of children, or
[00:14:23] also restored in vitro, but really punishing
[00:14:27] anyone for not being able to have children or not having
[00:14:30] children, for some people it is a tragedy that they cannot
[00:14:34] have children, which, for example, PiS did not understand, here
[00:14:36] it is difficult for us to adopt the rhetoric of PiS, which
[00:14:40] violates women's rights, violated human rights, which
[00:14:43] often denied the in vitro program to poor Poles,
[00:14:46] for whom it was a tragedy not to be able to have children, so I understand that the Civic Coalition will not support
[00:14:50] such a project by Poland 2050.
[00:14:53] We have not had such a discussion in the club, but
[00:14:57] as I feel what my friends and
[00:15:00] my, well, comrades, as I would say, in my
[00:15:04] group and in the vicinity, we will absolutely not support
[00:15:07] such an idea, because we want to support young marriages,
[00:15:11] for example, with a huge housing construction program, this
[00:15:14] year there is over 4 billion zlotys for housing
[00:15:17] construction, these are SIMs, also these are TBSs, these are communal
[00:15:21] apartments and it is worth giving these young people also a nursery program.
[00:15:25] KPO is building nurseries in many communes, where it was excluded and we need
[00:15:28] to support this birth rate, not punish someone for, for example, not being able to have
[00:15:32] children or perhaps making a mistake by not having
[00:15:56] the tragic statistics concerning drownings, this unfortunately.