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[00:00:07] that Ukraine will have the resources needed to continue fighting, but also, as we see, what is happening over Estonia, Finland, Baltic Centry,
[00:00:11] Baltic Coast Guard, that is, Putin's growing strategic dilemmas
[00:00:14] when it comes to the shadow fleet,
[00:00:18] all of this shows that we are ready, we have everything we need to
[00:00:21] respond.
[00:00:24] Well, that's exactly what NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte
[00:00:28] says, we have all
[00:00:30] available responses, as Mariusz
[00:00:33] Marszałkowski from Defense 24
[00:00:35] said just now, he is still with
[00:00:38] us, what are these available responses,
[00:00:42] the question arises, why don't we use them, because
[00:00:45] it can be, it can be assumed that the Russians are
[00:00:49] truly unpunished in what they
[00:00:51] are doing. I mean, the Russians
[00:00:55] certainly dictate some narrative, Russia
[00:00:59] is the aggressive party, Russia
[00:01:02] is the aggressor in Ukraine, Russia
[00:01:06] is seeking escalation in other countries as well, despite what it says, because let's remember
[00:01:10] that the Russian narrative internally, as it were,
[00:01:12] to the Russian society, shows the opposite
[00:01:16] side, meaning that NATO countries
[00:01:19] threaten Russia, that NATO countries are a threat to
[00:01:23] its independence, to its sovereignty, that
[00:01:26] we, through Ukraine,
[00:01:29] are fighting Russia, ignoring
[00:01:32] the fact that Russia attacked Ukraine first in 2014,
[00:01:36] then in 2022 full-scale,
[00:01:40] well, unfortunately, this is always a problem
[00:01:43] when we talk about authoritarian or even
[00:01:46] totalitarian regimes, as in the case of
[00:01:50] an increasingly closed Russian
[00:01:53] society, and it's different in a situation where we are
[00:01:56] a democratic country and rely on rules...
[00:02:30] because let's remember that looking at election
[00:02:33] polls, if the polls are true, if the elections were to
[00:02:37] be held today, well, we would have for the first time in
[00:02:40] history, in recent history, openly pro-Russian
[00:02:43] politicians in the Polish parliament, which
[00:02:47] is also a rather dangerous
[00:02:51] element that the Russians want to strengthen
[00:02:55] even more. So, on the one hand, we do not act
[00:02:57] in such a way that
[00:03:30] NATO has a much greater military potential than Russia
[00:03:34] today. Well, one must remember that Russia is a nuclear
[00:03:37] power, and that is its advantage over most NATO countries.
[00:03:41] However, in the event of a conventional
[00:03:44] confrontation, Russia has no chance,
[00:03:47] and that is our advantage as Western
[00:04:06] I'm wondering about one thing that
[00:04:08] questions for now, we don't have made me wonder, our previous expert, Professor Milczanowski,
[00:04:12] or Mariusz Marszałkowski, I'm not sure now, but it was important,
[00:04:16] because I heard that Russia is really looking forward to
[00:04:19] our elections, more than to its own elections,
[00:04:23] and in a way, it's understandable, but on the other hand, these are only
[00:04:27] elections in Poland, it's not that...
[00:04:30] they will decide the future of the alliance. We are talking about elections in
[00:04:34] Poland, of course, but we are also talking about elections in all of Europe. In a moment, we have elections
[00:04:37] in France, where Marine Le Pen is running, and currently
[00:04:41] the polls show her unconditional victory. We have
[00:04:44] Germany, where increasingly popular
[00:04:48] is the AFD. Well, we have us,
[00:04:51] as Mr. Mariusz Marszałkowski said,
[00:04:55] according to the polls we currently have, and if elections were held
[00:04:58] today, well, then in...
[00:05:03] The Russians are practicing their
[00:05:06] propaganda and such minor acts of
[00:05:08] sabotage, as our guests repeated, to...
[00:05:13] deter us from wanting to help Ukraine, but it's working. Well, that's
[00:05:17] unfortunately the worst part, that the Russians are succeeding, we
[00:05:20] can't find an antidote to this disease that
[00:05:24] the Russians are currently injecting into our blood,
[00:05:28] this poison is constantly being injected into us
[00:05:31] by them in some way, not only to us
[00:05:34] Poles, but to all countries in Europe, our
[00:05:37] soil falls particularly
[00:05:41] susceptible, also because we have a lot of
[00:05:45] refugees from Ukraine, about how solidary we were,
[00:05:48] how we helped them when the war broke out,
[00:05:52] we are slowly forgetting, if we have already forgotten, we
[00:05:55] forgot quite quickly and unfortunately, politicians
[00:05:59] are helping us with this, because when we stood at the
[00:06:03] border and took in everyone who was fleeing the war,
[00:06:06] we provided them with a roof over their heads, we fed them,
[00:06:09] we brought toys to the children, we
[00:06:12] even fed the animals with whom they crossed
[00:06:15] the border, I thought to myself then, when will a politician
[00:06:19] come and spoil all this for us and cause
[00:06:22] our good hearts to turn into bad hearts,
[00:06:26] well, they are slowly turning into these bad hearts.
[00:06:29] Politicians came to us from the
[00:06:32] East, because it's not that our politicians suddenly
[00:06:35] started opposing Ukraine,
[00:06:39] this Russian propaganda, which we talked about many times today
[00:06:42] in connection with this drone, simply
[00:06:46] enters our national politics,
[00:06:48] French politics, German politics,
[00:06:52] Spanish politics, Czech politics, Slovak politics,
[00:06:56] where we see in which
[00:06:59] direction this politics is
[00:07:02] turning, more and more,
[00:07:05] more and more support is given to parties that are
[00:07:08] anti-Ukrainian, who either say
[00:07:11] that they will not spend a single zloty, kopeck,
[00:07:15] pound, or cent on helping
[00:07:18] Ukraine, and that everything they can
[00:07:21] do, they can possibly do for money. Unfortunately,
[00:07:25] Donald Trump and the United States are leading
[00:07:28] this, which
[00:07:31] has largely stopped its aid to Ukraine,
[00:07:34] and Donald Trump publicly says, we will send weapons, but
[00:07:38] someone has to pay for them, we will no longer
[00:07:41] help cost-free. And parties that propose extreme solutions, which
[00:07:45] usually sound very simple, have already
[00:07:48] taken power many times, it never
[00:08:05] the outset, I would like to ask about this specific drone that was
[00:08:08] found today near Ustka, very close.
[00:08:12] Ustka, the one that was recovered from the Baltic Sea, actually.
[00:08:16] Please tell me, what kind of object is this? Well,
[00:08:20] it is probably an unmanned aerial vehicle of the
[00:08:23] Gerbera type, and most likely Russian, everything indicates that.
[00:08:27] However, investigative actions by the military police are underway at the
[00:08:30] scene, and we will be able to state clearly
[00:08:34] after these actions. The military police will certainly
[00:08:37] provide information, they will communicate, if they are
[00:08:40] sure, where it came from. Well, this object was found
[00:08:44] during the passage of one
[00:08:47] of our hydrographic motorboats belonging to the Navy,
[00:08:50] which noticed, during its passage from Darłowo to Łeba,
[00:08:54] this object drifting
[00:08:57] near the beach in Rusinowo, as you
[00:09:00] mentioned, and they secured this object, notified the relevant services,
[00:09:04] which are now, as I mentioned, working on site and
[00:09:07] carrying out actions regarding this object. Tell me about such
[00:09:11] motorboat patrols.
[00:09:42] which exist, especially in the vicinity of
[00:09:46] our critical infrastructure, and patrols are conducted there
[00:09:49] and so-called show of force or showing
[00:09:53] our presence, and of course, the routes
[00:09:57] of passages, whether of foreign
[00:10:00] ships or vessels, are also analyzed,
[00:10:03] whether this in any way threatens our infrastructure, meaning
[00:10:07] eventual ships from the shadow fleet are under your
[00:10:10] control, of course. The operation, Operation
[00:10:14] Bay, lasts 24 hours a day, so
[00:10:17] here, the operation of our ships at
[00:10:20] sea is daily, if there is such a need, it is
[00:10:23] intensified.
[00:10:26] The Navy ensures the security of our infrastructure, and that is
[00:10:30] how it is every day. I would like to ask about this drone again,
[00:10:34] what are such Gerbera drones
[00:10:36] used for? Such drones are usually
[00:10:40] used as decoys for air defense systems, but they can also
[00:10:44] be armed with a small several-kilogram
[00:10:47] warhead, which is why the military
[00:10:50] police will certainly certainly
[00:10:54] be supported
[00:11:25] of an air attack, but here, it's too early to
[00:11:28] talk about the purpose of this drone,
[00:11:31] no, we haven't observed any violation of our air space
[00:11:35] in recent days since July 30th, our systems haven't observed
[00:11:38] such a violation, so it's too early a
[00:11:42] stage to confirm where this unmanned
[00:11:44] aerial vehicle might have come from
[00:11:48] near our beach, but it will certainly be thoroughly
[00:11:51] checked. Do you have any knowledge whether a similar drone
[00:11:55] was used to attack the crossing in Dorohusk
[00:11:58] yesterday, when it happened, or were they completely different
[00:12:02] missiles?
[00:12:04] From the initial information we have, unmanned aerial vehicles of the
[00:12:07] Geran-5 type were used in that
[00:12:10] area, even the jet
[00:12:14] ones, so much faster and with
[00:12:17] a much larger explosive charge, so no,
[00:12:21] it was not a similar type of object.
[00:12:25] I would also like to ask about the Bay operation. You say that
[00:12:28] it involves patrolling coastal areas, including
[00:12:32] the Baltic Sea. What else does this operation
[00:12:35] consist of? Well, in this operation, the Navy
[00:12:39] is tasked primarily with
[00:12:42] patrolling our, our
[00:12:44] areas, where we have critical
[00:12:47] infrastructure in the Baltic, but
[00:12:50] also, if necessary,
[00:12:56] it establishes communication with ships passing through our
[00:12:59] infrastructure and checks if they do
[00:13:01] not threaten, they do not threaten the security of this
[00:13:05] infrastructure. Our sailors
[00:13:08] also operate within Baltic Centry, so there is also multinational
[00:13:12] allied cooperation
[00:13:15] in the Baltic Sea.
[00:13:18] Well, it is being conducted, this
[00:13:22] operation in principle started in 2022.
[00:13:25] Well, it's primarily monitoring, identification of any threats, and
[00:13:29] observation of our waters. Well,
[00:13:33] it is known that the threat in the Baltic is increasing, and more
[00:13:36] and more ships of the shadow fleet
[00:13:39] are destabilizing the situation there,
[00:13:42] but our sailors are watching over this
[00:13:45] security and are on
[00:13:48] site to be able to
[00:13:50] react
[00:13:52] and they also support in this primarily the maritime branch of the Border Guard,
[00:13:56] whose units are also responsible for the security of this infrastructure.
[00:13:59] So, Colonel, finally, I would just like to ask, when will we be
[00:14:03] certain that this drone did not contain any
[00:14:06] payload, when will it be examined?
[00:14:09] Well, that's a question for the military police, how quickly they finish their
[00:14:12] activities, that's within their jurisdiction, the military police will
[00:14:15] inform about any
[00:14:17] consequences
[00:14:20] of this discovery, about its
[00:14:23] expert findings.
[00:14:26] Or perhaps further investigative actions will be undertaken
[00:14:29] by other services, so it's hard for me to say at this moment. As I
[00:14:33] mentioned, the military police should inform
[00:14:48] a piece of information I just found, that the Lithuanian
[00:14:51] Ministry of Defense is conducting
[00:14:55] a thorough investigation into what happened last night over
[00:14:59] its territory, namely, an unknown flying
[00:15:02] object was located, which flew over at 4
[00:15:05] AM from the territory of Belarus, flew over
[00:15:08] Lithuania, then headed towards the Kaliningrad
[00:15:12] Oblast, but its further fate is not
[00:15:16] known, and it is not excluded that this is exactly the drone
[00:15:20] that is now found on our beach in the Baltic Sea,
[00:15:23] because information has also appeared that
[00:15:26] our services, in turn, are
[00:15:28] reaching
[00:15:31] such knowledge that it most likely
[00:15:35] drifted to the place where it
[00:15:38] was found, so it is not excluded that this drone,
[00:15:41] which flew over Lithuania at 4 AM, fell into the sea,
[00:15:45] and then some current carried it to our
[00:15:48] beach. Yes, such a scenario is possible, indeed, we will also
[00:15:52] discuss it with our next
[00:16:02] now we are wondering whether this drone, probably
[00:16:06] a Gerbera drone, was found
[00:16:10] on the beach near Ustka, whether it got there by accident, or
[00:16:13] whether, as my editorial colleague said, it could have
[00:16:17] drifted there by accident, or is it that there are no such
[00:16:21] accidents in this type of events? Well, we have two
[00:16:25] possible scenarios. The first possible scenario is that it is
[00:16:28] indeed this Lithuanian drone, and that
[00:16:31] it flew out of Belarus, flew over
[00:16:34] Lithuania, found its place in the
[00:16:37] sea and drifted. Only one thing
[00:16:40] doesn't fit for me, namely the place
[00:16:44] where this drone was found, and the fact that it is very
[00:16:48] close to an important anti-aircraft artillery training ground
[00:16:50] in Wicko Morskie, something about it doesn't look like a coincidence to me,
[00:16:54] but let's say it's possible. Now,
[00:16:58] two things: Gerbera comes in several variants, one of them
[00:17:02] is a variant that is not only a decoy,
[00:17:05] but also a reconnaissance drone, and very often
[00:17:09] these two or three kilograms of explosive material are placed
[00:17:13] there so that it would be a self-destructing
[00:17:16] device, so that the potential
[00:17:19] finder would not analyze what was inside.
[00:17:22] Honestly, I am very curious what
[00:17:26] is in this drone, whether it is just a normal decoy,
[00:17:30] a normal decoy that got out of
[00:17:33] control and just flew until it practically sank,
[00:17:37] and drifted to us, or if it is not
[00:17:41] a deliberate attempt to send a reconnaissance drone,
[00:17:45] for example, from the Kaliningrad Oblast, from
[00:17:49] the vicinity of Königsberg, right, because that is also
[00:17:52] possible. Gerbera is extremely easy
[00:17:54] to launch. You even have a video where
[00:17:57] a Gerbera is launched from
[00:18:01] a pickup truck, and it is indeed possible. Here,
[00:18:04] an additional detail is the fact that
[00:18:08] in Scandinavia, two years ago and last year, there was
[00:18:12] a whole series of thefts of pickup trucks
[00:18:15] and other pickups. When this
[00:18:18] network was broken up, it turned out that these
[00:18:21] vehicles were transported to
[00:18:24] Russia and there, there they were assigned to soldiers
[00:18:28] who were involved in reconnaissance, launching
[00:18:31] these drones. So we have, so to speak,
[00:18:34] an international enterprise with
[00:18:36] a Russian flavor. Well, when it comes to the Gerberas themselves,
[00:18:40] it is a rather slow drone, it is
[00:18:44] a drone with an internal combustion engine, so
[00:18:46] here you can say that
[00:18:49] if, if, it was
[00:18:52] launched to either reconnaissance,
[00:18:56] or another thing, the colonel here pointed out
[00:19:00] the function of a decoy. Sometimes it happens that a decoy
[00:19:03] is sent to, for example, activate our
[00:19:07] radars, our air defense system. Then the Russians
[00:19:11] sit, for example, on board an Il-20,
[00:19:15] which is an electronic warfare aircraft,
[00:19:18] or on installations,
[00:19:21] right, reconnaissance
[00:19:23] in the Kaliningrad Oblast,
[00:19:27] they check how our coastal defense radars
[00:19:30] work. A very important thing, characteristics,
[00:19:34] bandwidth, how it turns on and how it works.
[00:19:37] Simply, so that in case of a larger action,
[00:19:41] to jam it. So there are many
[00:19:46] answers to them.
[00:19:49] seeking this answer, which you mentioned, whether it's
[00:19:53] a month, a week, or we will never know.
[00:19:56] It could even be a few days, it could be a month, it all
[00:20:00] depends on whether we can determine
[00:20:03] what the drone's route was. If this is
[00:20:06] the drone, then I assume that anything
[00:20:10] is possible, that it is possible that it was
[00:20:14] a decoy that got out of control, it is also possible
[00:20:17] that it was a reconnaissance drone that flew to
[00:20:20] Lithuania, but due to
[00:20:24] the electronic warfare system's operation in
[00:20:27] Lithuania, such systems exist, it
[00:20:30] went off course and landed in
[00:20:32] the Baltic Sea. If, however, there is
[00:20:36] a chance that it was launched from the Kaliningrad
[00:20:39] Oblast, from the Kaliningrad region, then
[00:20:42] we have a certain puzzle, whether it was
[00:20:45] intentional, or whether we want,
[00:20:49] or wanted
[00:20:52] to test our air defense or to
[00:20:54] reconnaissance it? It is very interesting
[00:20:58] what was in that drone. Mr. Marek, but I
[00:21:01] understand that we see the routes of such drones
[00:21:04] that fly over our territories, I don't know if from these
[00:21:08] AWACS that circle over our, over
[00:21:11] our sky, or from satellites, and we are able
[00:21:14] to accurately determine this route. Well, here
[00:21:18] there is a certain problem for...
[00:21:50] Barbara will also take up this gap, well, that's a matter of 2028
[00:21:52] and later, but
[00:21:56] I think Gerberas were usually launched at a higher
[00:21:59] altitude, so, so
[00:22:02] we will recognize how it flew there,
[00:22:05] rather, and we will have clarity whether it
[00:22:09] was intentional, or as we discussed earlier,
[00:22:13] the wind carried it away, unfortunately,
[00:22:16] it simply had bad luck.
[00:23:24] that was also the reason for this attack, very likely, because to show the West
[00:23:28] that the Russians are still strong, are
[00:23:32] still powerful, to give them something to think about, as they say, the Russians
[00:23:35] usually like to give something to think about, but fortunately,
[00:23:39] it doesn't always work out for them. But
[00:23:42] this time, this time, well, I think
[00:23:46] they gave something to think about, especially to Carl Bild, that one should... Thank you
[00:24:24] morning. And we are just wondering if we will
[00:24:27] find out what kind of drone it
[00:24:31] was specifically, this drone that is initially assessed by the
[00:24:34] Operational Command of the Armed Forces as a Gerbera
[00:24:37] drone. We don't know if it contained any payload, we
[00:24:40] don't know for sure if it was a drone that drifted to
[00:24:44] us, as my editorial colleague said, or if
[00:24:47] it was intentionally sent to the place where it
[00:24:50] was found, i.e., on the beach near
[00:24:53] Ustka. How do you assess this situation?
[00:24:57] The fact that it is a Gerbera drone is visible in the photo, which from...