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[00:00:06] once again, have a good day, our next guest, because today we really have a lot of
[00:00:10] experts who are analyzing
[00:00:12] this serious situation very seriously. Our next guest, Bartłomiej
[00:00:16] Wypartowicz, Defense 24.pl, is already
[00:00:19] with us, as I see, good morning, good
[00:00:22] morning, and right now we are wondering whether we will
[00:00:26] find out what exactly this drone was...
[00:00:38] This drone, which is initially assessed by the Operational Command of the Armed Forces as a Gerber drone, we do not know if it contained any payload, we do not know for sure if it was a drone that
[00:00:42] drifted to us, as my colleague from the editorial team said,
[00:00:45] or if it was intentionally sent to the place where it was found, i.e.
[00:00:49] on the beach near Ustka, how do you assess this
[00:00:52] situation? The fact that it is a
[00:00:56] Gerber drone is visible in the photo
[00:00:59] that was published online, so here we already have
[00:01:02] 100% certainty of what type of drone it is,
[00:01:06] how it flew to us and what
[00:01:09] function it could have performed, that is a matter for
[00:01:12] clarification, because Gerber drones are quite
[00:01:16] unsophisticated drones, they
[00:01:19] are very often made of foam and some wooden elements, they
[00:01:23] are mainly used to saturate Ukraine's air defense
[00:01:26] and are sent en masse, sometimes even up to
[00:01:30] 600 units, but usually during such
[00:01:33] normal attacks, 350 to 500 units of this type of
[00:01:37] drones. These drones, at least according to information provided by the Ukrainian
[00:01:41] side, are quite easy to jam, and
[00:01:44] if they were flying somewhere, for example, in the northern
[00:01:47] part of Ukraine and were jammed, there is a
[00:01:50] probability that they changed their flight path and flew contrary
[00:01:54] to their intended purpose. Yesterday, the Lithuanian armed forces
[00:01:57] informed that one
[00:02:00] drone was flying through their territory, heading
[00:02:03] towards the Kaliningrad Oblast, so
[00:02:06] one of the possibilities is
[00:02:09] the fact that such a drone was in that area, so
[00:02:13] it could have flown, simply fallen into the Baltic
[00:02:15] Sea, and the
[00:02:17] current
[00:02:19] pulled it to our coast, that is one of the
[00:02:23] possibilities. The second thing, which is more
[00:02:26] disturbing, but I think much less likely, is
[00:02:30] that Gerber drones are not only used as decoys, they are mainly
[00:02:34] used in this way, but Gerber drones can also very
[00:02:36] often have various reconnaissance systems
[00:02:40] or jamming systems on board,
[00:02:44] so it could have been, for example, a drone sent along
[00:02:48] the coast to, for example, map something or check what
[00:02:51] is happening on the coast, and here we have
[00:02:54] the situation we have, which is the issue of large
[00:02:58] Polish drone exercises
[00:03:00] with long-range drones, of course I claim here that this
[00:03:03] case and this version is much less probable, but
[00:03:07] it cannot be ruled out in any case, and
[00:03:11] the third thing, because the editor asked about explosive material, Gerber
[00:03:15] can be without explosive charge, this is
[00:03:17] most often the case, or with a very small explosive charge,
[00:03:21] however, the photo that is
[00:03:24] shown
[00:03:27] online, is also shown on air, this rather
[00:03:30] shows that even if there was a charge, it did
[00:03:33] not detonate, so I will ask whether in your opinion
[00:03:36] these programs that we have,
[00:03:39] Baltic Sentry, but also
[00:03:41] the Zatoka program, which
[00:03:45] the Operational Command of the Armed Forces launched, are
[00:03:49] sufficient means for us to feel that our coast
[00:03:53] is safe? These programs are very
[00:03:56] much needed, but no program is ever sufficient, there are
[00:04:00] so many threats that the state must be prepared for,
[00:04:03] that more actions are needed in various areas,
[00:04:07] well, at Defense 24 we very often talk about, for example, increasing
[00:04:11] radar coverage in Poland, because we consider that radar coverage to be
[00:04:15] insufficient, we also hear such
[00:04:18] information from Polish soldiers, so this is
[00:04:21] a matter that will definitely need to be addressed, whether it affected this
[00:04:25] situation or not, I rather doubt it, but I would not want to
[00:04:28] prejudge it, because I do not have all the information
[00:04:32] that the Polish army and operational command have, but
[00:04:35] also, I keep saying that we need some
[00:04:39] specific anti-drone system,
[00:04:42] a jamming system, which in Poland, especially around
[00:04:46] the sea, would be deployed, I'm not talking here
[00:04:49] about the San system because of the fact that
[00:04:53] it is unable to combat many currently used drones
[00:04:57] because, for example, Gerber drones... 4 or
[00:05:00] Gran 5 are already turbojet effectors, which are
[00:05:03] used in the San system, are simply insufficient to shoot down this
[00:05:07] type of unmanned aerial vehicles,
[00:05:10] so in my opinion there is a need
[00:05:14] to create some kind of coastal defense system, an unmanned coastal defense system,
[00:05:17] however, this involves a lot of work, it certainly
[00:05:21] involves costs, it involves a
[00:05:24] serious willingness to treat the topic seriously,
[00:05:27] however, these things that we already have, we are doing,
[00:05:31] we have done a lot of things
[00:05:34] related to unmanned protection, to coastal protection,
[00:05:38] which have contributed to Poland's security, so for all
[00:05:41] these things... there are positives, we are certainly much safer
[00:05:45] than we were in 2022, we must
[00:05:48] say that with full awareness, thank you very
[00:05:51] much for these opinions, Bartłomiej Bartowicz, Defense
[00:05:54] 24.pl was our guest, thank you
[00:05:57] very much, well, we are also slowly finishing
[00:06:01] the special edition, but let's summarize what we know, Ernest, we know that the army recovered a
[00:06:04] drone from the Baltic, probably a Gerber drone, in the area of the beach in
[00:06:08] Rusinowo, and unfortunately we also know that we must be prepared for
[00:06:11] further... incidents that we will report
[00:06:15] to you daily about such matters,
[00:06:19] that's right, Ernest Zozoń, thank you very much, Joanna Monkosa, thank you
[00:06:22] very much for your attention, and now the news program
[00:06:25] at 2:30 PM and Monika Sawko takes over TV
[00:06:38] it.
[00:06:42] Every day you give your all,
[00:06:44] right?
[00:06:51] Monika Sawka, good morning, we start
[00:06:52] at 2:30 PM.
[00:06:56] Another incident, a Russian drone found.