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[00:00:00] To be clear, it's not about pointing out to the uniformed services that they did something
[00:00:04] wrong, because they didn't, respect for the uniform is sacred, and
[00:00:07] the school, as we hear, has been organizing such academies for years. However, the video
[00:00:11] of the promotions gained popularity online, internet users ask if the ceremonies
[00:00:15] were not overly ceremonial, there is nothing inappropriate about teaching
[00:00:19] students a certain pathos, every patriotism is
[00:00:22] to some extent pathos, these patriotic ceremonies
[00:00:26] are very common for them, a weight off our minds, because we were already worried.
[00:01:00] if the occasion is appropriate, the problem arises when symbolism begins
[00:01:03] to exceed the real rank of the office, and officials eagerly
[00:01:07] pose against the background of the services, thinking that it makes a good impression,
[00:01:11] The introduction of changes to school canteens is that it gives them such splendor, but also at the same time
[00:01:15] it gives the impression of having a certain power.
[00:01:19] As we hear, the cult of personality is becoming increasingly popular, it's not
[00:01:22] about satisfying one's ego, but about really building one's own
[00:01:26] individuality and influence on others. For all people.
[00:01:30] Power is a factor that influences and
[00:01:33] changes their personality, it's a question
[00:01:35] exam in of which direction. Great Britain offers an interesting contrast, there
[00:01:38] local authorities can be extremely ceremonial,
[00:01:41] the incoming new mayor from the 17th century is even publicly
[00:01:45] weighed, but there is a fundamental difference, it's an openly historical
[00:01:49] city ritual, not an imitation of the competence of a monarch, prime minister or
[00:01:53] army. Weighing, it's time to start, because in this
[00:01:56] turmoil it's worth remembering that every decision has its value.
[00:02:01] 19:30
[00:02:04] Thank you very much, in a moment today's question will be answered by Justyna
[00:02:07] Dobrosz Oracz, the acting rector of the Academy of Justice
[00:02:10] Sławomir Cudak, good evening, see you.
[00:02:41] Good evening everyone, Justyna Dobrosz Oracz, welcome to today's question, with me and
[00:02:44] you is Doctor habilitated Sławomir Cudak,
[00:02:48] acting rector commander
[00:02:51] of the Academy of Justice, good evening, good
[00:02:55] not only ours, but at evening, without police intervention, you wouldn't even
[00:02:57] enter this academy. Did you expect
[00:03:01] such a, internet users write
[00:03:04] circus? Exactly, a circus,
[00:03:07] indeed, yes, indeed, I learned
[00:03:10] that I would be fulfilling the duties of rector commander of the Academy
[00:03:14] of Justice on the evening of September 9th
[00:03:17] and the next day at
[00:03:20] 9:00 AM I was already at the ministry to
[00:03:24] pick up the documents, well but did you suspect that there would be
[00:03:27] pushing and shoving, that MPs would storm
[00:03:30] the building, that you would have to run away
[00:03:33] from officers of various
[00:03:36] television stations who call you
[00:03:39] a usurper, excuse me, those
[00:03:41] journalists, they were not journalists, they were rather
[00:03:44] right-wing media thugs, I would describe them better,
[00:03:47] indeed in good faith
[00:03:51] I went that day to the
[00:03:54] university, parked in the rector commander's spot,
[00:03:57] walked to the door and then
[00:04:00] it turned out that the man who came out
[00:04:03] to chase me away from that spot, when he realized that
[00:04:06] I was the rector commander,
[00:04:10] sent by, in his opinion, by the minister, immediately ran away
[00:04:13] and blocked the door for me, but I'm trying
[00:04:17] to understand, because you worked at this academy from the beginning, before it
[00:04:21] even changed its name, so you are from
[00:04:23] within, right? I am from within, someone brought
[00:04:27] you in a briefcase,
[00:04:30] I just won a competition, a competition was announced
[00:04:34] for an assistant professor at this
[00:04:37] university and in 2019
[00:04:41] I started working in September
[00:04:44] 2019 as an academic
[00:04:47] teacher, habilitated
[00:04:49] habilitowany
[00:04:51] doctor and I am proud of it, the first classes, the first
[00:04:55] lecture for the first year
[00:04:58] of officers or...
[00:05:01] full-time students I led and
[00:05:04] of course I led them until they graduated, then
[00:05:08] I also follow their careers, but do you know, for example,
[00:05:11] Minister Żurek?
[00:05:13] From television, from television, so you are simply
[00:05:17] the oldest person,
[00:05:19] it's like this, it fell to you because the
[00:05:23] law states that you perform the duties because you are the oldest in
[00:05:26] this, when it comes to the dismissal
[00:05:28] of the rector, in such a case yes, the higher education act
[00:05:32] states that when
[00:05:35] for some reason, due to death,
[00:05:39] resignation or dismissal as a result of... various
[00:05:42] legal circumstances, the oldest senator
[00:05:46] takes over his duties and that is you, until
[00:05:49] a new rector is elected,
[00:05:52] well, after a two-hour discussion, the senate
[00:05:55] decided at the end of June that it would be me, meaning the Senate
[00:05:59] appointed you in a way, that it's not like Minister Żurek decided to
[00:06:03] make you someone who would overthrow the previous
[00:06:06] rector, no, absolutely not, it
[00:06:10] simply came from the birth certificate or from the PESEL number. I am simply
[00:06:13] the oldest senator, it turned out I was
[00:06:17] to replace the outgoing one, in
[00:06:20] the end, Mr. Sopiński probably expected
[00:06:23] that he would eventually be dismissed, so
[00:06:27] such a resolution of the senate was
[00:06:29] adopted, I remind the senators
[00:06:33] unanimously, unanimously, good, unanimously without,
[00:06:36] so there is no attack on the university, since the decision was also made
[00:06:39] by the senators who manage this
[00:06:43] university, I don't understand, well, the right-wing
[00:06:46] media say that I single-handedly invaded the university, I wanted to
[00:06:50] take it over, that you took it by force, because you called the police, no,
[00:06:53] no, absolutely, everything happened in accordance with the law
[00:06:57] and I received the appropriate documents
[00:07:00] that,
[00:07:03] that authorized me to continue running
[00:07:06] the university during, well, but Mr. Sopiński cannot accept that he was
[00:07:10] dismissed, there was a procedure for dismissal.
[00:07:18] Why, in your opinion, I mean, how do you see it, that Mr.
[00:07:21] Sopiński, a former associate of Zbigniew Ziobro, also
[00:07:25] a plenipotentiary of Sovereign Poland at one time, simply, I don't know, is clinging
[00:07:28] prostu nie wiem, trzyma się kurczowo
[00:07:30] to his chair,
[00:07:32] here I must say that we are very sorry
[00:07:35] as academic staff,
[00:07:38] scientific and didactic, didactic, as well as administrative
[00:07:41] staff, we are all in the academic
[00:07:44] community, in the social environment, treated as
[00:07:48] Ziobrists, we have different political
[00:07:51] views, but throwing us
[00:07:53] all through the fact that our
[00:07:57] rector, the head publicly declares his
[00:08:00] his his convictions, political
[00:08:03] affiliation, well, it caused us to feel enormous
[00:08:06] discomfort because of it, but he simply says that he does not
[00:08:10] recognize this decision and
[00:09:12] does she have food or not? yes,
[00:09:15] the MP eats, she has food, she has food delivered,
[00:09:18] also at her position, let's call it
[00:09:21] that, she has a kettle in which she can boil
[00:09:25] water, she also has coffee,
[00:09:29] so and what
[00:09:32] is not true, because I don't know if you saw what is happening online and
[00:09:36] the right wing is making you someone who is literally torturing MP
[00:09:39] Kurowska, that's not true, I'm certainly not
[00:09:42] torturing her, and sometimes I even come to
[00:09:45] the MP to check if she needs
[00:09:48] anything, we talk for a moment, sometimes
[00:09:52] we even became a little fond of each other,
[00:09:55] I even asked the lady, but I don't know if you saw it, because only
[00:09:58] recently the MP published a video saying
[00:10:02] that, I quote, she only had tap water left, not true,
[00:10:05] the MP drinks bottled water that is also delivered
[00:10:09] there, or is this one big mystification?
[00:10:12] I think so, but I don't want to declare here, but you have already asked
[00:10:15] the Speaker of the Sejm to
[00:10:19] intervene in the case of MP Kurowska, yes,
[00:10:22] I wrote to the Speaker of the Sejm
[00:10:26] today with a letter for the Speaker of the Sejm to intervene
[00:10:30] in this matter, but what do you expect, what will the Speaker
[00:10:32] do?
[00:10:35] The MP claims that the entire change happened to her illegally,
[00:10:38] until Mr. Sopiński returns to his position, she
[00:10:42] will not leave there, and
[00:10:45] from what I heard, she barricaded herself in that office, that's not
[00:10:48] in the office, she is in
[00:10:49] the corridor,
[00:10:53] excuse me, I cannot say. What kind, excuse me
[00:10:56] very, very please, Professor, to
[00:10:59] drink, I know you have a sore
[00:11:02] throat, whenever you need to, please
[00:11:06] drink, I don't know,
[00:11:08] how the MP intends to resolve this matter, because
[00:11:12] Mr. Sopiński is effectively dismissed from his position
[00:11:15] and nothing will change this situation, the MP
[00:11:19] postulates, I also don't know what steps the
[00:11:22] Speaker can take
[00:11:57] today the diploma
[00:12:00] law took place and
[00:12:03] please imagine that all students successfully
[00:12:07] passed this exam and defended their master's degrees except
[00:12:10] for one, namely a student whose supervisor
[00:12:14] was Mr. Sopiński, well Mr.
[00:12:16] Sopiński did not enter his work into the system,
[00:12:20] did not prepare a review, as a result
[00:12:24] the reviewer... also did not prepare a review, this student
[00:12:27] today could not, had no chance to defend himself, Mr.
[00:12:30] Sopiński
[00:12:33] makes various posts on social media,
[00:12:37] he came up with such a scandalous post that
[00:12:40] one should boil the heads of Holocaust
[00:12:44] researchers, did you intervene in this
[00:12:47] matter, did anyone point out to the rector that this
[00:12:50] is hate speech, I mean, are you asking
[00:12:54] about internal? about the internal environment, did anyone rebel
[00:12:57] internally earlier, when you saw what the
[00:13:00] rector was doing? Among ourselves, yes, we commented on it,
[00:13:04] that it is reprehensible, unacceptable, that we treat
[00:13:07] it as hate speech, however,
[00:13:11] at the moment the rector's power at the university is so immense that
[00:13:14] practically no one allows themselves to criticize,
[00:13:20] every university, the rector's law is currently
[00:13:23] structured in this way, I
[00:13:27] only have the task of preparing
[00:13:29] the university for elections, because you are acting
[00:13:32] as, yes, for the next rector, but what is this whole matter about, if you would like to
[00:13:36] explain to Poles,
[00:13:39] why such political hell broke out, you were not politically
[00:13:43] involved, I have never seen you at protests
[00:13:46] suddenly you found yourself in the eye of the
[00:13:50] storm, first of all, one of the
[00:13:54] elements of preparing the university for
[00:13:57] elections is ordering an audit,
[00:14:01] because it also seems very strange to us that
[00:14:04] so much energy, so much noise, such
[00:14:08] a storm happened around this
[00:14:11] resignation, in fact, I think that
[00:14:15] Mr. Rector is, excuse me, the former
[00:14:18] rector, is a very young man, well, 30
[00:14:21] years old, I think 30-something, well, but still
[00:14:24] 30. He became rector a few
[00:14:28] days, a few months after he
[00:14:31] obtained his doctorate. Have you ever seen such a
[00:14:34] promotion? No,
[00:14:38] I think this deserves a Guinness record, because in
[00:14:41] Polish science there has been no such case of such a young
[00:14:45] person becoming the rector of a
[00:14:48] public university.
[00:14:51] He was indeed an associate of the former Deputy Minister Roman.
[00:14:56] Yes, absolutely, from
[00:14:59] my information it appears that it was Mr.
[00:15:02] Romanowski who placed Mr.
[00:15:05] Sopiński in the position of rector,
[00:15:08] placed him, because we know that there was a special law in this matter,
[00:15:12] when the name was changed, but previously the Senate
[00:15:15] did it, under enormous pressure,
[00:15:19] influence and shaped by these
[00:15:21] circles, meaning you want to say that... were hired
[00:15:39] precisely at this university, meaning I understand
[00:15:48] that it became a party waiting room, I have the impression that
[00:15:51] yes, as I said, I work, I live in
[00:15:55] Kalisz, all, most of the administrative
[00:15:59] administracyjnych
[00:16:01] matters took place here in Warsaw, so actually
[00:16:04] I was a bit to the side of the main. all
[00:16:09] events, well but did you expect that you would
[00:16:13] become public enemy number one for Law and Justice at this moment? Well,
[00:16:17] knowing all this, what the background is,
[00:16:20] well, you didn't desert, you could have refused to say that
[00:16:24] even if the senate appoints you, I'm not taking it, or for example, if the minister
[00:16:28] dismisses the rector, you say
[00:16:31] no, knowing what is happening, and you yourself say that some people
[00:16:34] are even afraid to criticize the rector for scandalous behavior. Well, yes,
[00:16:38] but Mr. Sopiński, Sopiński is no longer the rector
[00:16:42] of the Academy of Justice, I came to the university in good faith
[00:16:45] to take over power or
[00:16:48] to take over the duties of rector
[00:16:52] and suddenly it turned out that
[00:16:55] right-wing media thugs appeared,
[00:16:59] I was completely unprepared for it, no one was
[00:17:02] prepared in the ministry, where I received these documents
[00:17:05] there in the ministry.
[00:17:28] That's why the university received these properties, now it's being questioned by the prosecutor's office, these funds, what was the
[00:17:31] idea behind it, what was it really
[00:17:35] about?
[00:17:37] Our university, the Academy of Justice, from
[00:17:41] the side of the prison service, received a number
[00:17:45] of properties, both in Warsaw and outside
[00:17:48] Warsaw, this includes a hotel in
[00:17:51] Zakopane, this is a building on Wiśniowa, which we
[00:17:54] rent, this is
[00:17:56] a
[00:17:59] facility on Wyzwolenia, also a facility where our
[00:18:03] library is located, I don't know what the
[00:18:06] intentions were, I can only suspect
[00:18:08] that
[00:18:12] probably a foundation was
[00:18:15] already established, led by Ms. Iwona
[00:18:18] Lewandowska Pierzynka, which was supposed to
[00:18:22] somehow
[00:18:24] use
[00:18:27] the income from these properties for its own purposes,
[00:18:31] I don't know what, so was it a business idea, we transfer
[00:18:34] properties to the university,
[00:18:56] I don't want to declare here, but certainly some political goals,
[00:18:59] some organizational, who knows if not
[00:19:02] private, however, here I must
[00:19:05] say that...
[00:19:08] I am a bit resentful towards Mr. Sopiński, because
[00:19:11] he used certain funds of our university for
[00:19:15] actually private purposes, for example, this is a very serious
[00:19:18] accusation, for private funds for trips to international
[00:19:21] conferences, actually I think that about
[00:19:25] 80%
[00:19:27] of these funds were used by Mr.
[00:19:31] Sopiński and sometimes his
[00:19:35] colleagues for the purpose of perhaps...
[00:19:48] these are indeed two trips to Singapore, maybe he had a conference there, well, indeed
[00:19:51] a conference, nevertheless it is a very interesting trip, also
[00:19:54] a very interesting two-week trip to
[00:19:57] Thailand, I don't know if that conference
[00:20:00] lasted two weeks, however
[00:20:03] the university financed that trip. So
[00:20:07] what will you do now, will you order such an audit and check if
[00:20:11] these suspicions are justified and will you file a report
[00:20:15] with the prosecutor's office against Mr. Sopiński? Yes, I don't want to anticipate
[00:20:19] facts, I don't want to throw accusations here, but indeed
[00:20:23] I want to make such an opening
[00:20:26] balance, I want to check
[00:20:29] if all the actions of the previous previous authorities, because I'm not
[00:20:33] talking about Mr. Sopiński here, but also about
[00:20:37] people close to him, collaborators, if
[00:20:40] all these actions were legal, if
[00:20:43] by any chance some money was not
[00:20:47] used in a way that the
[00:20:50] university's statute provides for, or
[00:20:53] the purpose, MPs have complaints that you are not letting them into
[00:20:57] the building with parliamentary
[00:20:58] control,
[00:21:02] I am not letting MPs into
[00:21:04] the building for their own
[00:21:07] safety, because together with them, right-wing media
[00:21:11] thugs would probably get in and such a commotion would
[00:21:14] be created that we would not be able to control it, they say it is
[00:21:17] breaking the law, because everyone... has the right to enter a
[00:21:21] institution and inspect it, of course
[00:21:24] yes, but seeing what is happening
[00:21:27] around the university, around the university
[00:21:30] grounds, these are not normal situations that
[00:21:33] are conducive to cooperation with MPs and senators, so until when will the
[00:21:37] police be guarding the building,
[00:21:40] until
[00:21:43] the emotions around this university subside, until
[00:21:46] everyone recognizes that I am the legal, legally appointed,
[00:21:51] acting rector commander of the Academy of
[00:21:54] Justice, are you convinced that in this matter there was no
[00:21:58] shortcut change in a situation where
[00:22:02] the rector's term was indeed, according to the law,
[00:22:06] 5 years, legally stipulated,
[00:22:09] I was not interested in the entire procedure or
[00:22:12] the reasons for the dismissal, it's not like, I'm not
[00:22:16] a lawyer, I can't assess it, but I have faith
[00:22:20] that it was done carefully enough, legally enough
[00:22:24] in the ministry that it raises no
[00:22:27] doubts, because the fact is that this procedure has been going on
[00:22:30] since March, it's not like
[00:22:34] someone is forcibly removing someone from the office, it's a
[00:22:37] long-term procedure that is ongoing and
[00:22:41] which I think, I have the impression that
[00:22:45] Mr. Sopiński has mastered evasion well,
[00:22:49] so as not to receive correspondence, I will put it this way,
[00:22:52] even in
[00:22:55] all locations where
[00:22:59] our university, the Academy of Justice, has
[00:23:02] secretariats, instructions were issued that these
[00:23:06] secretariats should not accept official correspondence
[00:23:10] from the central board or from the Ministry
[00:23:12] of Justice, well, total obstruction, thank you very much
[00:23:16] for the interview, Rector, thank you also to you and I invite you to
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[00:26:37] The planetary diet in schools caused huge emotions on
[00:26:40] social media, mostly from people who have
[00:26:44] nothing to do with schools, and especially with school
[00:26:47] canteens. Communism has returned, whenever they rule, children
[00:26:51] are hungry. The planetary diet in schools is a greater
[00:26:54] scandal than all the theft and deceit of the representatives of the current
[00:26:58] coalition and their people. They are taking food from children and
[00:27:01] destroying them.
[00:27:08] This is unforgivable. The planetary diet in kindergartens, i.e., eliminating meat and dairy, is a total absurdity, contrary to proper nutrition principles.
[00:27:14] aimed at improving the nutrition of Polish children. We know that
[00:27:18] the way our Polish children eat is not always
[00:27:21] completely correct, there are certain
[00:27:24] mistakes, children often do not eat important products
[00:27:28] that provide valuable ingredients, and on the other hand,
[00:27:31] they eat products that are not always
[00:27:35] healthy, and in the planetary diet, attention is paid
[00:27:38] precisely to having more unprocessed products, but
[00:27:42] also to having more plant-based
[00:27:44] products. Concerns arise about deficiencies, for example, of iron or
[00:27:48] vitamin B12, whose sources are meat products.
[00:27:51] Dietitians clearly say, concerns.