TVPINFO — Info Poranek 20261012 060500 UTC 428 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] there are a number of debates and panels focusing on [00:00:02] defense issues, with a particular emphasis on the security of Central [00:00:06] and [00:00:07] Eastern Europe. [00:00:10] Among the panelists are top politicians, including from [00:00:14] NATO and European Union countries, military personnel, [00:00:17] industry representatives, and experts in defense and [00:00:21] national security, economy, and [00:00:24] energy policy. Today, speeches by [00:00:28] Prime Minister Donald Tusk and the President are planned. Various discussion [00:00:31] panels will also be attended by [00:00:34] Deputy Prime Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz together [00:00:37] with his counterparts from [00:00:40] Norway, Lithuania, and [00:00:42] Latvia. [00:00:45] Ukraine is ready to halt attacks on Russian [00:00:48] energy infrastructure, however, Kremlin troops struck [00:00:51] the Kharkiv power plant on Sunday [00:00:54] evening, declared Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The attacks occurred [00:00:58] after Donald. [00:01:06] The President of the United States stated that a ceasefire in the energy [00:01:09] sector had been reached, which is good news for everyone, and it is important that it [00:01:13] is reflected in reality. Ukraine supports all real [00:01:17] and credible forms of ceasefire and ending the war. Ukraine is [00:01:21] ready to refrain from attacking Russian energy [00:01:24] infrastructure and we expect Russia to demonstrate the same [00:01:27] readiness and abide by the agreement. [00:01:37] The Bosphorus, a tanker sailing under the Maltese flag, anchored on [00:01:41] the Asian side of the strait in Istanbul, halting vessel [00:01:44] traffic. The 110-meter [00:01:48] long vessel was carrying 6,000 tons of vegetable oil, sailing from [00:01:51] Bulgaria to Italy, when during the strait crossing [00:01:55] an engine failure occurred, and the tanker dangerously approached the shoreline, [00:01:58] including... to the ferry terminal and historic waterfront [00:02:02] houses, however, the crew's decision to drop anchor [00:02:05] stopped the vessel and prevented it from hitting [00:02:08] the shoreline. Two rescue tugboats were dispatched to the scene and [00:02:12] intervened with the tanker. Work began to [00:02:16] transport the vessel from the scene to a safe [00:02:19] location. The Bosphorus, one of [00:02:23] what I always stated on the busiest and largest waterways in the world, is known [00:02:25] for its heavy vessel traffic and strong currents, which make [00:02:29] navigation difficult. [00:02:44] Of course, this case [00:03:06] From the National Public Prosecutor's Office, experts from the Internal Security Agency (ABW) issued [00:03:09] an opinion regarding the functionality and security of the [00:03:12] Pegasus system. The opinion states that the Pegasus system allowed for [00:03:16] the acquisition of a wide range of data from mobile devices without the knowledge or consent of their [00:03:20] users. The experts also determined that the CBA [00:03:23] did not have full control over the Pegasus system. Some [00:03:27] elements of the system remained under the exclusive control of the producer. [00:03:31] The system producer also had the technical ability to access [00:03:35] materials from operational controls, details of the declassified [00:03:38] fragments of the opinion in the communication, which is [00:03:40] attached to this post, this is on the X platform, the National [00:03:44] Prosecutor's Office informs, meanwhile, we will return to this [00:03:47] topic around 8:30 AM, our guest will be Professor [00:03:51] Renata Mieńkowska-Norkiene, [00:03:53] political scientist. [00:03:56] A 60-year-old man from Lower Silesia was detained in connection with suspicion. [00:04:13] Justyna, at what stage is this investigation [00:04:17] what charges can the detainee [00:04:19] face? [00:04:22] And procedural actions involving this man are still ongoing, [00:04:26] we know that if his health condition allows [00:04:29] him, he will be transported to Warsaw, where [00:04:32] the actions will be continued by the prosecutor's office, [00:04:36] this was stated by the spokesperson of the [00:04:39] Warsaw Police Headquarters, Commissioner Jacek [00:04:41] Wiśniewski, but yesterday we know that officers detained [00:04:45] this approximately 60-year-old man around [00:04:49] 4 PM, there at his apartment, official [00:04:52] activities were also conducted, meaning various data carriers, [00:04:55] a computer, a phone, were secured, [00:04:59] we know that he was quite active on the [00:05:02] internet, where he commented quite [00:05:05] extremely on various things, that's why the services must [00:05:08] verify exactly whether the man acted alone or also had [00:05:11] contacts with other people, as mentioned on our channel by [00:05:15] the Minister of Internal Affairs and Administration Marcin Kierwiński. [00:05:19] The services found him through a thorough analysis of the content that was [00:05:22] posted on the internet, meanwhile, procedural [00:05:26] actions are still ongoing, this person's contacts are being [00:05:29] investigated, it seems that this is a person from very radical groups, [00:05:33] establishing very radical contacts with various [00:05:37] people through the internet, this is a person who was [00:05:39] very... very active in [00:05:43] various extreme groups, [00:05:47] proclaiming extreme views and, [00:05:49] who, as I said, had numerous [00:05:53] contacts. [00:05:56] As the services informed yesterday morning, an email was sent to the email inbox [00:06:00] of the state protection services informing about [00:06:04] a planned assassination attempt. Here, a quick verification of [00:06:07] this information took place, at 11:00 AM a staff meeting was held, including [00:06:11] police, as well as ABW officers, because this [00:06:14] meeting took place at the Internal Security Agency, state protection [00:06:18] service officers were also present, and basically just a few [00:06:22] hours later, around 4:00 PM, this man was [00:06:25] arrested, he will most likely be charged, and it is possible that he will also [00:06:29] be remanded for three months. [00:06:32] arrested. [00:06:35] Justyna Łęgowik, with this information for you, thank [00:06:38] you Justyna, our guest is Dariusz Loranty. [00:06:42] Former police officer, police negotiator, expert on security issues, good [00:06:46] morning, Mr. Dariusz, and we are staying on this topic, namely [00:06:49] the topic [00:06:52] concerning the planned, thwarted, as I [00:06:55] understand, assassination attempt on Prime Minister Donald Tusk and [00:06:58] Deputy Prime Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz, yesterday this topic [00:07:02] appeared in the public sphere, did it surprise [00:07:05] you that this information was [00:07:09] made public? [00:07:12] Yes, undoubtedly so, because the entirety of this [00:07:15] situation, from its disclosure to [00:07:19] its partial conclusion, because it is only a partial conclusion, ladies [00:07:23] and gentlemen, is somewhat, is very [00:07:25] unusual, strange and has its [00:07:28] pros and cons, starting with [00:07:32] the pros, which is [00:07:35] your channel, not only on this channel, that our [00:07:39] police are not a cause for shame, but quite the opposite, we have... public [00:07:53] administration likes to announce its success, [00:07:57] well, because these are awards, perhaps decorations, similar to [00:08:01] any institution, so let's not criticize the [00:08:04] police here, however, the very fact that we learn about [00:08:08] an assassination attempt from statements by the spokesperson [00:08:11] of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, [00:08:13] is an unprecedented [00:08:16] situation, and now certain [00:08:19] elements of the entire operation are slowly emerging, which [00:08:23] may, after verification by the prosecutor's office and [00:08:27] by the court, turn out that it was not an assassination attempt, but [00:08:30] rather criminal threats, because in order [00:08:34] for an assassination attempt, as I understand, this man was [00:08:37] arrested, the assassination attempt certainly did [00:08:40] not happen. [00:08:43] So now, if the first information is an email sent to the [00:08:46] Prime Minister's inbox, then we have threats, for [00:08:50] it to happen, even planning an assassination attempt is then [00:08:53] punishable, if the perpetrator carried [00:08:57] out such actions that would indicate [00:09:00] that an assassination attempt would occur, not just announced [00:09:02] it, because perhaps he announced it under the influence of some [00:09:06] moment, emotional disturbance, maybe [00:09:09] he is mentally ill, this will be revealed in the near future... maybe not in [00:09:13] the near future, but after some time, but if he took [00:09:16] actions, meaning that he took [00:09:20] actions, one must have a plan of action, even if one announces [00:09:23] it, that plan may not be realistic, one must [00:09:27] take physical actions, meaning to determine where the Prime Minister [00:09:30] is, to take measures to carry out the assassination attempt, because [00:09:34] with words alone we will not carry out an assassination attempt on the Prime Minister, [00:09:38] measures must be taken that will allow this, this is the [00:09:41] time that... will verify the preparatory proceedings, and in fact [00:09:45] the judiciary will verify it, because courts [00:09:48] are not, because courts in Poland, I would describe them as, are [00:09:52] objective, they verify all actions of the services, which we had [00:09:56] many cases of these [00:10:00] verifications of the services and they sometimes satisfied the rulers, [00:10:03] sometimes the opposition, which clearly shows that this [00:10:07] judiciary is not that [00:10:09] bad, this type of emails, [00:10:13] phone calls, letters with warnings concerning the [00:10:15] security of the most important people in the country are [00:10:19] many, but apparently this [00:10:21] specific one must have been so exceptional that it... that [00:10:25] the services decided first to act, and second [00:10:28] to publicize it, in Gazeta Wyborcza we can read [00:10:32] that, according to the sources of this [00:10:34] newspaper, this information about a possible assassination attempt [00:10:37] contained data regarding addresses where the Prime Minister and the Chief Minister may be staying [00:10:41] and their plans for the near future, this is also the point you [00:10:44] mentioned, that it would indicate that [00:10:47] these pieces of information have [00:10:50] elements of the reality of carrying out this assassination attempt, but attention, we still have [00:10:53] one service. it is called the State Protection Service, which [00:10:57] has full police powers, it was [00:11:01] reformed a few years ago, when it was given both [00:11:05] operational and procedural powers, because [00:11:07] previously it was only a service for the protection of covered [00:11:11] persons, but this is a service that has [00:11:14] a number of very effective, in my humble [00:11:17] opinion, powers such as operational powers [00:11:21] and I think it started with it in [00:11:25] cooperation with the police, why in cooperation with the police, because the police are the [00:11:28] public safety administration body [00:11:31] that is everywhere, the state protection service operates only in [00:11:35] protected facilities, this is [00:11:39] such, this is their list, publicly [00:11:41] available, and at embassies, protection of embassy [00:11:45] facilities in the country and abroad, however, in [00:11:48] cooperation with the police, which is necessary for this [00:11:51] reason, that the police also have their operational resources. [00:11:55] A little smaller, which I regret, because I, [00:11:59] regardless of who is in power, believe that the police should have [00:12:02] a very wide range of operational [00:12:05] measures, it does not have such wide operational measures [00:12:08] as some other services in Poland [00:12:12] the State Protection Service in cooperation with the police, [00:12:14] which after locating the computer [00:12:18] carried out that physical location, that real-world [00:12:21] location, and hence we undoubtedly have cooperation between two services. Here [00:12:25] also a word about the State Protection Service, which we forget [00:12:29] exists, with complete certainty, I have no doubt, [00:12:33] because that is the procedure, those are the rules, immediately after [00:12:35] receiving this information a higher degree of [00:12:39] security was implemented, note, additional people were [00:12:42] included, additional people were put under protection, [00:12:45] both for the Prime Minister and the Deputy Prime Minister, such [00:12:49] is the pragmatism of this service, meanwhile, the police conducted their [00:12:53] operations, as we know effective... [00:12:55] which will certainly have a [00:12:59] positive response, a positive response, because [00:13:03] perhaps there are people who from time to time want to criticize the [00:13:06] Prime Minister, I'm not talking about an assassination attempt, but about such [00:13:10] verbal aggression and regardless of who the Prime Minister is, because [00:13:13] the Prime Minister is the result of society's choice, [00:13:16] whether he is liked by another part of society or [00:13:19] not, he is subject to special legal protection, higher legal [00:13:23] protection in Poland is only given to the president [00:13:25] and [00:13:28] as Prime Minister, as chairman of the Council of Ministers, as a [00:13:31] public official, he is subject to special protection [00:13:35] and any aggression from us, [00:13:39] verbal aggression, note, should be [00:13:42] nipped in the bud, of course, the right to total [00:13:45] criticism, to great criticism, to express one's [00:13:48] opinion, disagreement, but there are [00:13:51] certain boundaries, those boundaries, note, are defined by the criminal [00:13:55] code, where if threats are made, [00:13:58] note, which sometimes seem irrational [00:14:02] even, then it is an area for police action, [00:14:05] that person should be identified, detained [00:14:08] and verified whether the threats were truly real and this will now [00:14:12] happen, this 60-year-old man from Lower Silesia, I remind you, [00:14:16] was arrested by the police, now investigators will [00:14:19] determine [00:14:21] what happened, what was [00:14:24] the real threat? Thank you very much, Dariusz [00:14:27] Loranty, former police officer, police negotiator, security expert, was [00:14:31] a guest of TVP Info's morning show. Let's return [00:14:35] to what to [00:14:37] the communique that the National Prosecutor's Office posted on its, on its [00:14:41] profile on the X portal, it concerns Pegasus. We read in it, in [00:14:44] the investigation conducted by Investigation Team number 3, [00:14:47] National Prosecutor's Office, experts from the ABW [00:14:51] issued an opinion regarding the functionality and security of the Pegasus system. [00:14:55] The opinion states that the Pegasus system allowed for the acquisition [00:14:58] of a wide range of data from mobile devices without the knowledge or consent of their [00:15:01] users. The experts also determined [00:15:04] that the CBA did not have full control over the Pegasus system. [00:15:08] Some elements of the system remained under the exclusive control [00:15:11] of the manufacturer. The manufacturer of the system also had [00:15:14] the technical ability to access materials from operational [00:15:18] controls, details of the declassified fragments of the opinion in [00:15:21] the communique, which can [00:15:24] be... attached to this entry, that's on [00:15:27] the X profile of the National Prosecutor's Office at [00:15:30] 12:00, the parliamentary investigative commission on Pegasus will [00:15:33] disclose, present the public part of the report concerning [00:15:38] Pegasus, meanwhile, Prime Minister [00:15:42] Donald Tusk also commented on [00:15:44] this issue. The Pegasus case [00:15:48] is nearing its final stage. You remember, one of [00:15:51] the biggest scandals in Polish history, after the fall of communism. A total [00:15:54] tool of cybernetic [00:15:56] surveillance, produced [00:15:59] by an Israeli company, regarding whose [00:16:02] cooperation with Israeli services no one has [00:16:05] any doubts. And this company offered [00:16:09] a system that was supposed to protect us from agents, [00:16:12] services of other countries, hostile countries, and [00:16:15] we paid over 60 million zlotys for it, of which [00:16:18] 25 million came from the Justice Fund, you also remember, [00:16:21] this money was supposed to go to victims of crimes, they spent it on this [00:16:25] total cybernetic surveillance equipment, you know [00:16:29] that they signed a contract, this is precisely the revelation of the last [00:16:33] hours in the final stage of this proceeding, a revelation [00:16:36] confirmed by our. [00:16:47] for the system, for this tool of surveillance, tracking, [00:16:50] eavesdropping, spying, over which they de facto had no [00:16:54] control, because control remained in the hands of Israel and the Israeli [00:16:57] company, meaning they paid money that [00:17:01] belonged to victims in Poland, victims [00:17:03] of crimes, for a system that de facto transferred [00:17:07] all possible data concerning Polish citizens, Polish opposition [00:17:11] leaders, Polish independent prosecutors, this data [00:17:14] went to the Israeli side, and the Polish side [00:17:17] de facto had no control over this and what's [00:17:21] more interesting, it was explicitly stated in [00:17:23] this agreement that Poland cannot use this [00:17:27] surveillance tool against phone numbers from [00:17:31] Russia, Belarus, North Korea, [00:17:34] countries where there is a serious threat, they [00:17:38] couldn't use it there, but they gladly used this tool against [00:17:41] Polish citizens, Polish opposition members, and also against [00:17:45] citizens of European countries, such as France or Germany. [00:17:48] In summary, [00:17:51] the heads of Polish services, [00:17:54] CBA, ABW, intelligence [00:17:57] from the PiS era, the Ministry of Justice, including [00:18:01] Deputy Minister Michał W, all now have [00:18:04] charges, and against the Deputy Minister there is [00:18:08] an indictment, but a punishment [00:18:12] is a punishment, but imagine, people responsible for [00:18:15] justice and for state [00:18:19] security, handed over to a foreign country, [00:18:22] Israel, [00:18:25] thousands, tens of thousands of data, sensitive data, [00:18:28] of Polish citizens, without having any control over [00:18:31] it, this is no longer a scandal, [00:18:35] really, and I think... for everyone it is [00:18:38] clear, we are talking about a state crime and they will be held [00:18:42] accountable for that, [00:18:50] social media for children under 16 years [00:18:54] of age, should they be banned, this is a question we have been asking [00:18:57] ourselves for some time in the context of these recent [00:19:01] events in Polish schools, this question is [00:19:04] becoming more and more relevant, today is safe computer [00:19:07] day, which reminds us of the dangers of [00:19:11] the internet, as well as the need to protect the youngest [00:19:14] internet users, this topic is covered by Tomasz Sieliwończyk, who is in [00:19:18] Gdańsk. Tomek, [00:19:21] do experts believe that this ban on using social [00:19:25] media can effectively protect our [00:19:27] children? [00:19:31] Maybe it should, that's the most common story we hear from [00:19:34] experts today, though of course under certain [00:19:37] conditions, Dr. Maciej Dębski, University of Gdańsk, [00:19:41] I care about my reach, foundation, I salute you, good morning, Doctor, good morning to you, [00:19:44] good morning everyone, and we turn to you now with this question, how [00:19:48] effective and important is the solution [00:19:51] of restricting access to social media for people younger [00:19:55] than 16-year-olds? [00:19:58] A very important step, raising the age, young people [00:20:01] often struggle with using social [00:20:04] media, not because they don't want to, but simply because they are too... [00:20:19] target groups, kids on social media have access to unfortunately pornographic content or violent content, so assuming that parents [00:20:22] often do not enter the digital world of their children and [00:20:25] completely do not know what they are doing there, raising [00:20:29] the age, is absolutely the right decision, [00:20:32] whether 15 or 16, I am for [00:20:35] 18, actually, but we also [00:20:38] know that social media can be used for good [00:20:41] purposes, so it's absolutely the right step, this [00:20:44] expert's opinion is consistent with other experts, they also... talk [00:20:48] about an alternative, except that the doctor says: alternative, not all alternatives [00:20:52] are equal. Well, [00:20:55] yes, we need to know that by taking something away from children, or [00:20:59] from us, we just need to give something in return. If [00:21:02] the only world available to a child will be the digital world, well, then [00:21:06] a parent is shooting themselves in the foot. We must have an alternative to the digital [00:21:09] world, but it is important that this alternative to [00:21:13] the digital world, which we want to give to a teenager, so that they are not [00:21:17] online so much, but also offline. It must somehow [00:21:20] be adapted to what the child does online, you can't [00:21:24] offer a child who is passionate about military games [00:21:27] a chess club, right, one would have to [00:21:30] consider what could be an equivalent of such [00:21:34] games, so but there must be an alternative, because [00:21:37] today's research shows that teenagers spend about [00:21:41] five hours online, of which a very large part is [00:21:45] social media games, if we take that away, [00:21:49] we won't have... [00:22:20] police intervention in Bydgoszcz Błonie. [00:22:23] The man had a knife and rushed towards the officers. The policewoman [00:22:26] fired shots, and the wounded man was taken to the hospital. Monika [00:22:30] Kamińska is in Bydgoszcz. Monika, what has been established so far in this [00:22:33] case? [00:22:37] Good morning, yesterday around 9 PM, the Bydgoszcz [00:22:40] police received information that in Bydgoszcz Błonie, and [00:22:44] specifically on Stawowa Street, a man, [00:22:47] an adult man, was self- harming. [00:22:50] Of course, a police patrol was immediately dispatched [00:22:54] here, these police officers informed their superiors [00:22:57] that they needed backup because this man was not [00:23:01] cooperating with them, he was not listening to their commands, indeed he was holding [00:23:04] a knife in his hand, committing these self-injuries [00:23:08] mentioned earlier, and at some point he indeed rushed [00:23:12] towards the police officers, the female officer fired [00:23:15] a shot, wounding the man, on the spot, medics were already [00:23:19] present [00:23:28] The Bydgoszcz police received information that the man [00:23:31] had died. [00:23:34] was handed over to the prosecutor's office, and these actions continued [00:23:37] here until late at night, and we are waiting for a statement [00:23:41] from the services. [00:23:45] Monika Kamińska from Bydgoszcz, thank [00:23:47] you very much. [00:23:49] Klaudia Uciechowska, a student from Wałbrzych, who fell seriously ill while [00:23:53] studying in China, has woken up from her coma. Now, intensive [00:23:57] rehabilitation and learning basic functions await [00:24:00] her. Paweł Pawlucy is in Wałbrzych, who has been following [00:24:03] this topic for you from the beginning. Paweł, what [00:24:07] progress is Ms. Klaudia making, what else awaits her in the near [00:24:10] future? [00:24:15] Indeed, I have been following it from the beginning, but also thanks to Polish television, initially only [00:24:19] Polish television. Wrocław, this story reached a wider [00:24:22] audience, these advancements, well, today they seem incredible, because [00:24:26] just a few months ago, and I remind you that Klaudia's story began [00:24:29] in April, well, it seemed highly improbable that anything [00:24:33] sudden would change, that Klaudia would have a quick chance to return to her former life, [00:24:37] today, as I heard from her mother Anna Uciechowska, as you, I have the impression, [00:24:40] are seeing at this moment, Klaudia is making enormous progress, first the [00:24:44] most important, game-changing event, she opened her eyes, well, [00:24:47] right after that she began to recognize the faces of her closest [00:24:50] people, then she began, and a very painstaking [00:24:54] rehabilitation is still ongoing, we cannot yet say that this story has a happy [00:24:58] ending, but certainly this turn of events, the sudden improvement in Klaudia's [00:25:01] health already in Poland, when she was under the care of Polish [00:25:04] doctors, allows us to predict that she will indeed be able to return [00:25:08] to her former life. Klaudia is learning anew to use her body, learning [00:25:12] to move her limbs, learning slowly, but surely, to stand on [00:25:15] her own feet, she also pronounces single words and [00:25:19] thanks to her family being with her, we can follow these progress [00:25:22] daily, I remind you that in April when we heard about this [00:25:26] incident, Klaudia suffered [00:25:28] a health collapse, she lay for several months, for two months in China, [00:25:32] unconscious, today she can already see, she can hear, perhaps even at this moment [00:25:36] she is watching us, so this is for today the best information regarding [00:25:39] Klaudia, [00:25:42] Paweł Pawlucy from Wałbrzych, thank you very much, Paweł, [00:25:46] Magdalena Bober has joined me with [00:25:49] a prepared... another news update specially for you, it's 9:00 [00:25:53] 8:30 [00:25:53] I apologize. [00:26:06] Services arrested a man in Lower Silesia.