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[00:00:00] The President of the United States announces: "Moscow and Kyiv have agreed to
[00:00:04] an energy ceasefire, which is to take effect
[00:00:07] immediately. Ukraine welcomes the declaration,
[00:00:11] but immediately after its announcement the Russians strike
[00:00:14] a power plant in Kharkiv. So what is this truce
[00:00:17] about? We connect with Piotr Kaszuwara, who is in
[00:00:21] Cherkasy. Good morning Piotr. This
[00:00:24] declaration, which I mentioned, is not Trump's only declaration. He also
[00:00:27] wants Ukraine to hold elections
[00:00:31] for a new president in the country, and it's not the first time he's said it. What do
[00:00:35] the Ukrainians
[00:00:35] say about all this?
[00:00:39] In Ukraine, there are primarily great fears about what this
[00:00:43] situation might lead to, because
[00:00:46] there is a possibility that
[00:00:48] if Kyiv does not agree to these
[00:00:52] proposals from Washington and Moscow, and
[00:00:55] much indicates that this is the case, then
[00:00:58] it may turn out that soon... the United States will stop
[00:01:01] supplying weapons to Ukraine or
[00:01:04] will also stop providing
[00:01:06] intelligence information, which includes
[00:01:10] data on when and where the next
[00:01:13] Russian drones and next Russian
[00:01:17] missiles will strike. We can indeed
[00:01:20] see that these attacks are not ceasing. These latest
[00:01:23] reports from Washington are very
[00:01:27] puzzling, because it seems...
[00:01:30] the chronology of events is quite important here, because
[00:01:35] so that these immediately after Jerad Kushner and Steve Witkoff's visit to Moscow a few
[00:01:38] weeks ago, we first heard from the United
[00:01:42] States that it was Ukraine that was
[00:01:46] to blame for the global
[00:01:48] price increases in oil markets. It was then that
[00:01:52] for the first time such unequivocal appeals appeared from
[00:01:56] Donald Trump's administration, that Ukraine should stop attacking.
[00:02:00] Russian
[00:02:03] Russian oil, Russian energy
[00:02:06] infrastructure. There was no agreement on this,
[00:02:10] until Russia also
[00:02:13] stopped attacking Ukraine's energy
[00:02:17] infrastructure. Shortly after,
[00:02:19] we received information that the United
[00:02:22] States and Donald Trump announced
[00:02:25] a gigantic deal that could reach up to eight
[00:02:29] billion dollars for the purchase of Russian
[00:02:33] oil. And even earlier, it was precisely
[00:02:36] Donald Trump who signed these infernal sanctions, which
[00:02:40] were to be imposed not only on Russia, but also on
[00:02:43] those countries that wanted to buy from
[00:02:47] the Russians. These sanctions were not
[00:02:50] imposed, which was met with criticism from
[00:02:53] American senators. Additionally,
[00:02:56] now it is the United
[00:02:58] such acts. We should be aware that States that is the country that will be supplied
[00:03:02] with Russian oil. Negotiations were
[00:03:05] ongoing at the same time between the United States and
[00:03:09] Ukraine. On Friday and Saturday, a Ukrainian
[00:03:12] delegation was in Miami, but immediately after Donald
[00:03:16] Trump's decision, this agreement with
[00:03:19] the Kremlin regarding oil, the Ukrainians
[00:03:23] decided to leave the United States and broke off
[00:03:26] these talks.
[00:03:29] And immediately after that, we heard from
[00:03:33] Donald Trump that perhaps it is time
[00:03:36] for Volodymyr Zelensky to stop being the president of
[00:03:40] Ukraine and a candidate should be found who will be able to
[00:03:44] come to an agreement with Russia. Volodymyr Zelensky stated that
[00:03:47] as soon as the Americans manage to negotiate at least 60
[00:03:51] days of peace, he is open to
[00:03:55] holding elections. Now he says
[00:03:58] similarly, if Russia stops attacking our
[00:04:02] infrastructure, our energy infrastructure, we are also
[00:04:05] open to not attacking Russia's oil
[00:04:08] infrastructure. We await what the next days will bring, because indeed
[00:04:12] the Ukrainian government confirms that immediately after Donald Trump's words
[00:04:16] Russia broke this
[00:04:17] agreement.
[00:04:20] About this from Cherkasy, Piotr
[00:04:24] Kaszuwara. Thank you very much, Piotr. Celestyna
[00:04:27] Grzebyta is in the studio to tell
[00:04:30] you about what kind of day we will have today. It's almost 8:40
[00:04:34] on the clocks, so it's
[00:04:36] much clearer now than it was just a moment ago. Yes, that's
[00:04:40] right, the sun has risen and is shining beautifully in southern Poland. We have
[00:04:44] quite a few such places where the sun is
[00:04:47] breaking through the clouds. It's different in the center and in the
[00:04:50] north, where there's heavy cloud cover, and rainfall is occurring,
[00:04:54] stronger, especially in some places on the coast.
[00:04:57] Today, on the coast, even forecasters
[00:05:02] do not rule out local thunderstorms. It may also thunder in some places in Warmia. Apart
[00:05:06] from that, there aren't many clearings, but they will mainly
[00:05:09] appear in southern Poland.
[00:05:12] We will be bothered by a somewhat stronger wind at times,
[00:05:15] especially in the south and center of the country. The strongest gusts
[00:05:19] are forecast for the coast, up to about 50 km/h, and
[00:05:23] high in the Sudetes up to 70 km/h.
[00:05:26] It is possible that it will snow high in the Sudetes.
[00:05:30] Pressure is rising, and biometeorological
[00:05:33] conditions, unfortunately due to
[00:05:36] such bad weather, are unfavorable throughout the country today,
[00:05:40] although in the south they may become indifferent when
[00:05:43] there is a supply of this beautiful
[00:05:46] sun, when it will be warm for us, so in the
[00:05:50] afternoon hours there it will be quite comfortable, pleasant in the
[00:05:53] sun, about 14 degrees in the shade. It will be
[00:05:57] warmer in the middle of the week, even 17-18
[00:06:00] degrees in the west, so there is still a chance for warming.
[00:06:03] Such a day awaits us, thanks
[00:06:07] to Celestyna.
[00:06:10] Police are patrolling schools
[00:06:12] and checking if students are safe. This is a reaction to knife
[00:06:16] attacks and further threats. Izabela
[00:06:19] Kozdraś is in Szczecin. Izabela, where are the checks being carried out, and what
[00:06:23] actions are the
[00:06:24] officers taking?
[00:06:28] Checks are conducted both outside the school, but also
[00:06:31] when the break begins, then
[00:06:35] a police patrol enters inside to, among
[00:06:38] other things, also check surveillance, to also move
[00:06:42] among. children, by the way, we will show you how it works in
[00:06:45] practice. At the moment, as you can see, the police are outside
[00:06:49] the school. The first
[00:06:52] lesson is still in progress at this moment, but as soon as the
[00:06:55] bell rings, the police will enter the
[00:06:58] facility to patrol inside. This is all of course in
[00:07:01] agreement with the director of the school. The director
[00:07:05] makes the final decision on how these patrols should
[00:07:08] look, where children most often spend time during breaks?
[00:07:12] Whether it's on the playground, or right here around the school, and then
[00:07:16] a police patrol appears there during the break. Somewhere in the entire
[00:07:20] country, over 2,000 officers are
[00:07:23] around schools to ensure the safety of students
[00:07:27] and, of course, the safety of school staff
[00:07:30] as well. And it's supposed to be like
[00:07:32] that indefinitely. This action will be
[00:07:36] maintained until it is
[00:07:39] necessary. Today it is necessary with absolute certainty... because
[00:07:43] a clear message is needed,
[00:07:47] that there will be no consent for any
[00:07:50] attacks on Polish children, there will be no consent for such
[00:07:53] anarchization of public
[00:07:55] life.
[00:07:59] It is worth emphasizing that police officers will also be
[00:08:02] able to check a student's backpack if they determine that
[00:08:06] their behavior causes any concern or
[00:08:09] may pose a threat to students and, of course,
[00:08:13] to the staff of a given school. They can also control people who
[00:08:16] are in the close vicinity of educational institutions, if
[00:08:20] they also determine that a given person may pose a threat, because
[00:08:24] their behavior is simply uncertain. And
[00:08:27] that's how it looks in schools. I spoke with parents
[00:08:30] this morning who were taking their children to school, and everyone
[00:08:34] admits that due to these dangerous situations that
[00:08:37] have occurred recently in schools, such patrols should
[00:08:41] exist. They feel safe, they also
[00:08:44] feel that safety for their children, so in their opinion
[00:08:48] patrols should be in place to guarantee
[00:08:51] peace, and of course everything should be carried out with
[00:08:55] caution. I think that in light of recent
[00:08:58] situations, this is good, but we all, as parents and
[00:09:01] society, should work to ensure that our children don't have
[00:09:05] such ideas. This is a great idea, let's hope
[00:09:08] that such patrols deter potential...
[00:09:12] individuals who are planning something. We feel cared for
[00:09:15] when it comes to police
[00:09:18] patrols. I think that perhaps in high schools it would be better if the police patrolled
[00:09:21] in plain clothes, I don't know how that is with the regulations. Definitely yes, I think
[00:09:25] that everyone will be safer, whether at work or at home, and children always
[00:09:29] feel better with the police.
[00:09:29] czują,
[00:09:33] Not only patrols, of course, around schools, but also
[00:09:37] police officers are combing the internet, primarily online
[00:09:40] forums, but also social media, and they are to pay
[00:09:44] attention, especially to people who are fascinated by violence,
[00:09:47] aggression, computer games, but also to those who
[00:09:51] post various entries on the internet that
[00:09:54] incite
[00:09:55] aggression.
[00:09:58] Izabela Kozdraś from Szczecin, thank you Izabela.
[00:10:02] A man who planned an assassination attempt on Prime Minister Donald Tusk and
[00:10:05] Deputy Prime Minister, Head of the Ministry of National Defense, Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz, was arrested in
[00:10:09] Lower Silesia. He is a 60-year-old man.
[00:10:25] on the internet, but procedural actions are still
[00:10:28] ongoing, this person's contacts are being
[00:10:32] investigated. It seems that this is a person from very radical groups,
[00:10:35] establishing very radical contacts with various
[00:10:39] people through the internet. This is a person
[00:10:42] who was very, very active on
[00:10:45] various extreme groups,
[00:10:49] proclaiming extreme views and
[00:10:51] who, well, had, as I said, numerous...
[00:10:55] contacts.
[00:10:57] And we'll stick to this topic, but we'll also
[00:11:01] address others with our guest, Professor Renata Mieńkowska
[00:11:05] Norkiene, political scientist Team Europe Direct. Good
[00:11:08] morning. Good morning to you, editor, good morning to all.
[00:11:12] Let's start with this foiled, it all
[00:11:16] indicates, assassination attempt on Prime Minister Donald
[00:11:19] Tusk and Deputy Prime Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz.
[00:11:22] In your opinion, should we? treat this
[00:11:26] matter solely in terms of
[00:11:29] security, or also as a symptom
[00:11:32] of the, well, absolute
[00:11:35] division we are experiencing in Poland?
[00:11:37] Well, undoubtedly we have in
[00:11:41] Poland both this infamous polarization, although I would
[00:11:45] prefer not to call it so
[00:11:47] abstractly, because polarization is of course a scientific term,
[00:11:51] but the truth is that it's about people who...
[00:11:55] care about dividing Polish society
[00:12:00] divisions later translate into very specific actions
[00:12:04] that are intended to strengthen specific political options and weaken
[00:12:07] others, so very specific people are responsible
[00:12:10] for this, and in this regard, indeed,
[00:12:14] I believe, even though the opposition claims
[00:12:18] that this matter was unnecessarily sensationalized,
[00:12:20] that such things should be talked about,
[00:12:24] because it is a certain
[00:12:27] resultant of very various phenomena, besides this polarization that
[00:12:30] we are talking about here, there is also the issue of radicalization on the internet.
[00:12:34] This is an issue that we should talk about a lot, because in my
[00:12:38] opinion, it is now one of the most urgent, most
[00:12:41] pressing problems, especially in view of what is happening
[00:12:45] on our eastern border, because this radicalization of moods is,
[00:12:48] of course, fueled by
[00:12:51] Russian disinformation, but also here, I think not all...
[00:12:55] parents, because you started with a report concerning Polish
[00:12:58] schools and this radicalization of students, young
[00:13:02] people, but now also what is happening in terms of
[00:13:04] this planned attack on the Prime Minister
[00:13:08] and the Minister of Defense, it is true
[00:13:12] that these internet activities provide a breeding ground
[00:13:15] for such radicals who can then go so
[00:13:19] far as to commit
[00:13:23] algorithms also contribute to this. And radicalization also
[00:13:27] contributes to it, which sometimes results not
[00:13:31] from ill will or someone's searches,
[00:13:34] but for example, a young person entering the internet, even
[00:13:38] searching for neutral content, is often
[00:13:41] directed by algorithms more and more radically, unfortunately much
[00:13:44] more often to the right than remaining somewhere
[00:13:48] in the center or to the left, so in my opinion, this is a very, very
[00:13:51] big problem, which is a certain resultant of various
[00:13:55] complex phenomena. In a situation
[00:13:58] like this, where we are dealing with
[00:14:01] reports of a planned attack on one of the most important people in
[00:14:04] the state, it would seem that we can
[00:14:08] count on the fact that such divisions, which we know
[00:14:11] exist in Poland, will not
[00:14:14] matter, that we can count on some cross-party solidarity,
[00:14:18] however, even in this case, voices are emerging
[00:14:22] from the opposition that...
[00:14:25] mockingly refer to these reports related to
[00:14:29] the threat to the security of the Prime Minister or
[00:14:32] Deputy Prime Minister. How would you comment on this? Well,
[00:14:36] this is, of course, one of the elements of this polarization, but it also
[00:14:40] shows a certain hypocrisy of the current
[00:14:43] opposition, because I would just like to remind you that when there were
[00:14:47] similar situations, we did not
[00:14:50] yet have a war across the border, we did not
[00:14:53] yet have these small
[00:14:55] algorithms, the current
[00:14:59] opposition, in every situation of some threat,
[00:15:02] immediately raised an alarm that it was a very
[00:15:05] serious matter, but now suddenly it turns out that the matter is not
[00:15:09] serious, despite of course, in their opinion, i.e.,
[00:15:13] representatives of the opposition, despite the fact that we know perfectly
[00:15:17] well that such
[00:15:19] situations are not entirely neutral when it comes to
[00:15:23] our enemy, meaning our enemy certainly rejoices in every such
[00:15:27] situation, and rejoices all the more, the
[00:15:30] more such situations divide society. Our
[00:15:34] enemy is obviously Russia, but also all those who
[00:15:38] cooperate with Russia. Unfortunately, these algorithms that we are talking
[00:15:41] about here are not neutral algorithms, but they are algorithms
[00:15:45] that support, unfortunately, such disinformation
[00:15:48] and also support Russian propaganda, to put it simply. I will tell you, editor,
[00:15:52] honestly, that the scandal with Yandex, I don't know if you mentioned
[00:15:55] it on air, but it's a situation that
[00:15:58] shows that when it's possible to turn off, turn off
[00:16:01] in inverted commas, but when steps
[00:16:05] are taken to limit
[00:16:08] this algorithm madness, these algorithm
[00:16:12] actions, but also Russian disinformation,
[00:16:15] then suddenly many political profiles and
[00:16:18] political pages that support
[00:16:22] very specific, in this case, far-right political forces
[00:16:26] in Poland, suddenly their support drops. In short, there is
[00:16:29] a reduced number of bots
[00:16:32] that generate traffic on the internet. It is already said that around
[00:16:36] 60% are bots. When there are no internet
[00:16:39] trolls, because they are disconnected, it suddenly
[00:16:42] turns out that this support and all this traffic on
[00:16:46] the internet suddenly decreases a lot, right? So it is not
[00:16:49] that it is completely politically neutral, and therefore the opposition should
[00:16:53] rather support the current
[00:16:56] rulers to somehow organize this internet, rather than
[00:16:59] throwing a wrench in the works. As we know, not only the opposition, but also the
[00:17:03] president, with his veto, in this specific
[00:17:06] case, right? That is, this law
[00:17:10] or this right, which is to help implement European law
[00:17:14] in the area of the safety of Poles on the internet, well,
[00:17:17] such a veto certainly does not help. Professor,
[00:17:21] the topic of Pegasus is back. Today, the parliamentary
[00:17:24] investigative committee on Pegasus is to present the
[00:17:28] public part of the report on the functioning of
[00:17:31] this system. Also, the National Prosecutor's Office today posted
[00:17:35] a statement regarding various irregularities in the use of this
[00:17:38] software. What do you expect in the coming days
[00:17:42] regarding this topic?
[00:17:45] I mean, I don't expect any
[00:17:48] very big surprises. There is reportedly a list
[00:17:52] of politicians, even those from the front pages of newspapers,
[00:17:55] who will probably be held
[00:17:59] accountable, probably a group of people
[00:18:02] who are not politicians, but who will also bear
[00:18:06] responsibility, at least... reports will be sent to the prosecutor's office,
[00:18:09] of course. However, I
[00:18:12] think that the discussion about Pegasus is important now, because it
[00:18:15] somewhat fits into the whole large discussion we are having about
[00:18:19] our security. This is
[00:18:23] after all one of its elements, right? That is,
[00:18:26] the use of various tools for political struggle instead of
[00:18:29] caring for real security. This is also
[00:18:32] something that should function in the public
[00:18:35] sphere, and Poles should be aware of how it was
[00:18:38] implemented, what we were dealing
[00:18:42] with. To this are added such
[00:18:45] minor threads, but they will not be
[00:18:48] completely insignificant, editor, because they will also influence
[00:18:51] our collective imagination, let's put it that
[00:18:55] way, like the fact that the Israeli
[00:18:58] company actually had control over
[00:19:01] data concerning very many such, very
[00:19:05] delicate and sensitive matters for...
[00:19:07] security, so I think that here too a few such threads
[00:19:11] that are important also from an international perspective will probably
[00:19:14] be raised, albeit very cautiously, I suppose, but well,
[00:19:17] the responsibility of Zbigniew Ziobro, people from his entourage, also
[00:19:21] once again must be emphasized,
[00:19:24] because in some sense this is also
[00:19:28] this legacy from the previous
[00:19:30] government, with which it still unfortunately cannot cope entirely, the current
[00:19:34] ruling
[00:19:38] political option. But here, the President certainly does not help either.
[00:19:42] So let's see to what extent this will really be
[00:19:45] a topic that will perhaps overshadow some other topics, for
[00:19:49] example, the issue of Mr. Kołodziejczak. Well, various topics are appearing
[00:19:53] in the public sphere from the opposition, which are supposed to somehow
[00:19:56] divert attention from what is happening in Polish schools,
[00:20:00] from the planned attack on
[00:20:03] the Prime Minister and Minister Kośiniak, Kamysz. So this will probably
[00:20:08] once again focus attention on what the opposition,
[00:20:11] when it was still in power, what
[00:20:15] still, well, some responsibility rests
[00:20:19] with the opposition for failing to fulfill certain duties in
[00:20:23] the area of Poles' security. Professor
[00:20:26] Renata Mieńkowska Norkiene, political scientist at Team Europe Direct,
[00:20:29] was a guest on TVP Info's morning show. Thank you very much, Professor. Thank
[00:20:32] you very much, Editor. About Polish
[00:20:35] schools, they say no to hate.
[00:20:37] Students and teachers together oppose peer aggression,
[00:20:41] cyberbullying, and the growing anxiety among
[00:20:44] young people. A very current topic. Wiktoria
[00:20:47] Marszałek is in Opole. Good morning Wiktoria. Tell
[00:20:50] us more about what good things are happening
[00:20:53] in Opole.
[00:20:57] We are at High School No. 3, where preparations are underway
[00:21:00] for tomorrow's protest, and as the
[00:21:03] teachers told me, they didn't have to convince
[00:21:07] the students much, who decided to get involved and say
[00:21:10] a firm no to this violence that
[00:21:13] has appeared in schools recently. They are currently making
[00:21:17] banners to express their.
[00:21:20] opposition, so we ask the
[00:21:23] youth themselves why they decided to react
[00:21:26] in this way. We wanted to make an act
[00:21:29] of solidarity with the victims of violence in recent days, because we are not
[00:21:33] indifferent. School and online safety is important to us.
[00:21:37] Do you notice such spaces where
[00:21:40] this violence might be dangerous and
[00:21:43] escalating? Mainly on social media, on various
[00:21:46] servers, on TikTok, because simply...
[00:21:50] all content is available and everyone is
[00:21:53] anonymous. Comments are simply a wave of hate, it is simply
[00:21:56] inappropriate, and as children we have to behave like
[00:22:00] adults, adults politicians and the government
[00:22:03] behave like children and we are talking about
[00:22:06] it loudly and we want to express it. Beautifully
[00:22:08] said, and I will ask then how to react and if
[00:22:12] you have the strength to set boundaries, if
[00:22:15] you see that this violence is happening whether in school corridors, but
[00:22:19] also... Definitely do not react to it, do not worry
[00:22:23] about it, because people will talk, people will gossip,
[00:22:27] you just have to swallow your saliva and move on, think about
[00:22:30] yourself, focus on your goal, because that is
[00:22:34] the most important thing. What slogans will be on the
[00:22:37] cardboard, written on the cardboard? We wanted to convey that our
[00:22:40] second home, which is referred to as a school, is not a place
[00:22:44] of hate, violence, hatred, because as, for example, an older
[00:22:47] sister, all Friday I thought about whether my
[00:22:50] younger sister is safe in elementary school. No, we
[00:22:53] shouldn't be dealing with that at school, school, school is for
[00:22:57] learning, gaining knowledge, not worrying about whether someone will
[00:23:01] stab me,
[00:23:04] You see, you hear, how wise our youth is
[00:23:07] in high schools and not only,
[00:23:10] and tomorrow a protest will resound here. It will be a silent
[00:23:14] protest, but in the background of this protest, Niemen's
[00:23:17] song, "Strange is this world," will play, which perfectly
[00:23:20] reflects the mood in schools throughout
[00:23:24] Poland.
[00:23:28] From Opole about all this, Wiktoria Marszałek. Thank you very much, Wiktoria. A moment's
[00:23:31] break. At 9:00 we'll be back with the news.
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[00:25:15] Hi, Windrunner, you're fast. Well, I'm sipping
[00:25:19] Red Bull. But you know that, Red
[00:25:23] Bull gives you wings, but it just so happens that I have a fear
[00:25:26] of heights, delicate
[00:25:30] president, with crispy radish,
[00:25:34] pieces of tomatoes, in which you can feel the sun and
[00:25:36] chives, which will take over the whole kitchen,
[00:25:40] nice, different, delicate
[00:25:42] president.
[00:25:55] At this moment, the World Security Forum
[00:25:58] should be starting.