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[00:01:00] to use surveillance against phone numbers from
[00:01:03] Russia, Belarus, North Korea,
[00:01:07] countries where there is a serious terrorist
[00:01:10] threat, no, they could and willingly used this
[00:01:13] tool against Polish citizens, Polish
[00:01:16] oppositionists, and also against citizens of European countries, such as
[00:01:20] France or Germany. According to Katarzyna Kotula,
[00:01:23] it is necessary to implement all available solutions that will allow
[00:01:27] more effective removal of harmful content from the internet. She emphasized
[00:01:31] that this is also a big challenge for parents who should talk to
[00:01:34] children about online threats and control the content of their
[00:01:38] phones. The DSA law is certainly important and all these
[00:01:42] changes prepared by the Minister of Digitalization, I know that there is a political
[00:01:45] discussion, a debate, about who is to blame, it's not
[00:01:48] matter, the spokesman for about finding the culprit, it's about, in my opinion, focusing
[00:01:51] on ensuring that, firstly, harmful content is quickly removed from the internet,
[00:01:55] here we know, the word censorship immediately appears, do you want to
[00:01:58] censor?
[00:02:00] Or do we want to talk nonsense about freedom of speech? What
[00:02:04] freedom of speech in a situation where children live in a
[00:02:08] world that adults today have no idea about? The police chief
[00:02:11] rightly said that there was no challenge, but this
[00:02:15] situation is a challenge, it's a challenge for us adults,
[00:02:18] all of us. If Putin agrees to a
[00:02:21] 60-day ceasefire, then we will organize
[00:02:25] elections, declared the President of Ukraine in an interview with
[00:02:28] ABC. news, but
[00:02:31] now,
[00:02:34] oh, excuse me, I received incorrect information from
[00:02:38] the director and I am now returning to the information that
[00:02:41] Volodymyr, Volodymyr
[00:02:43] you to learn about Zelensky, responded in this way to Donald Trump's statement,
[00:02:46] who said it was time for Ukraine to elect a new
[00:02:50] president.
[00:02:53] President Trump stated that Ukraine needs a new president. Firstly, with all due respect to President
[00:02:56] Trump, it is our society, our
[00:03:00] nation that decides on the choice of this or that leader. Yes, we are fighting
[00:03:03] a war, and holding elections is really difficult. Moreover, it is
[00:03:07] not safe at all and goes beyond the current legal and
[00:03:10] constitutional framework. I proposed the following solution: tell
[00:03:14] Putin to give us 60 days of complete ceasefire, and
[00:03:18] within these two months we will organize elections. If this happens,
[00:03:21] we will, of course, be ready to accept any decision
[00:03:24] made by the Ukrainian
[00:03:25] nation.
[00:03:29] Chicago prays for... Pope Leo XIV. In the Holy Father's hometown,
[00:03:32] the faithful gathered in churches after the Pope
[00:03:36] announced that he would undergo lung surgery this week. Doctors discovered
[00:03:39] a small nodule in him. The Pope assures that the change was detected
[00:03:43] early. These are the first health problems
[00:03:45] of the 71-year-old Pope since the beginning of his
[00:03:48] pontificate.
[00:03:52] This is very sad, I hope God gives him strength to get through this and that
[00:03:56] he will continue to inspire others on the path to faith.
[00:04:01] He is a wonderful man, we will pray for him fervently and ask for
[00:04:04] health for him.
[00:04:08] I hope he recovers, I am grateful to him for spreading good, bringing
[00:04:12] the word of Christ and being a ray of hope that we so
[00:04:15] desperately need.
[00:04:30] And we will now show you what is happening in
[00:04:33] Warsaw as part of the World of Security Forum, these are live
[00:04:36] images, we are waiting for the speech of Prime Minister Donald Tusk,
[00:04:39] which was supposed to start around 9:30 AM,
[00:04:43] as soon as the Prime Minister starts speaking, we will go
[00:04:47] there to listen to what, especially in the context of
[00:04:50] security, Donald Tusk has to
[00:04:54] say.
[00:04:57] A 60-year-old man from Lower Silesia, suspected.
[00:05:16] Justyna, what more is known about this
[00:05:17] topic?
[00:05:20] As for this case, it is evolving, procedural actions are underway
[00:05:24] with the involvement of this man, if his health condition allows it,
[00:05:28] he will be transported to Warsaw, where he will be handled, so to
[00:05:32] speak, by the prosecutor's office. The man is about 60 years old and yesterday
[00:05:35] around 4 PM he was detained by the services in his
[00:05:39] apartment, where various types of
[00:05:42] data carriers were secured, because, as you mentioned, this man was very
[00:05:46] active online, on the internet, where he participated in various
[00:05:50] radical and extremist forums, which is also being verified
[00:05:53] now by the services, an investigation is being conducted into whether the man acted alone,
[00:05:57] or if he also had contact with third
[00:06:00] parties. The investigation into this case
[00:06:04] is ongoing, however, here the services acted very, very
[00:06:07] quickly, because yesterday morning an email arrived in the inbox of the
[00:06:11] State Protection Service: with information that
[00:06:14] an attack might threaten Prime Minister Donald Tusk, but also
[00:06:17] the Deputy Prime Minister, the head of the Ministry of National Defense,
[00:06:20] Władysław Kosiniak Kamysz. Therefore,
[00:06:23] the reaction here was very quick, it was
[00:06:27] verified and checked, it was
[00:06:30] an informant, as the head of the Ministry of Interior and Administration,
[00:06:34] Marcin Kierwiński, told our channel, by 11:00 AM, a staff meeting
[00:06:37] had already been assembled at the Internal Security Agency, where representatives
[00:06:40] of the services met to
[00:06:45] see the effects, because this man of Polish nationality was arrested
[00:06:49] in Lower Silesia. We do not yet know what
[00:06:52] charges he may hear, however, if it is already said that he will be
[00:06:56] transported to the prosecutor's office, if his health condition allows it, then
[00:06:59] indeed, these charges are not excluded, not excluded,
[00:07:03] also there will probably be a three-month arrest for this man, but the
[00:07:06] court will probably decide
[00:07:18] in the second round of elections, he obtained a little over 62% of the votes,
[00:07:22] he defeated Monika Piątkowska. As a thank you,
[00:07:25] the president met with residents before 7 AM and
[00:07:28] thanked them for their votes by handing out obwarzanki (Krakow bagels),
[00:07:32] one of which went to Beata Rzemieniuk, who has been following
[00:07:35] the first steps of the new president of
[00:07:39] Krakow since the morning. Beata, what are the plans for...
[00:07:42] the near future, and what are Łukasz
[00:07:46] Gibała's plans for the capital of
[00:07:47] Lesser Poland?
[00:07:51] The same thing Łukasz Gibała said during his election campaign,
[00:07:55] he also said the same thing in a nutshell this morning, he was already
[00:07:59] in the center of Krakow before 7 AM, he thanked
[00:08:02] residents for their votes, because
[00:08:05] he has something to thank them for, it is clearly visible in the numbers that his
[00:08:09] support in the capital of Lesser Poland is growing, and here we must recall
[00:08:12] 2024, when in the second round
[00:08:16] he fought for the presidency with Aleksander Miszalski from the Civic
[00:08:19] Coalition, he lost by a hair, by less than a percentage point, and
[00:08:23] then over 128,000
[00:08:26] residents of Krakow supported him, yesterday in
[00:08:29] these elections over
[00:08:32] 161,000 people supported him, he
[00:08:35] thanked for every vote, at Mogilskie Roundabout, where he met with
[00:08:39] residents, where he handed out obwarzanki, he said:
[00:09:12] I would like to believe that there will be enough people in the city
[00:09:16] council who will put the good of Krakow above their
[00:09:19] own particular interest and who will be open to
[00:09:22] cooperation.
[00:09:26] Huge debt, complicated situation in the city council,
[00:09:30] we will be carefully watching how everything will unfold in
[00:09:33] Krakow, because looking at the Krakow city council,
[00:09:36] the majority are politicians associated with the Civic
[00:09:40] Coalition, Łukasz Gibała's club is only a few
[00:09:43] people, so we are very curious if he will talk to Law and
[00:09:46] Justice, with the Left or with the Civic
[00:09:49] Coalition. The candidate of the Civic Coalition, also supported
[00:09:53] by, supported by the Civic Coalition and the Polish
[00:09:56] People's Party, Monika Piątkowska, ran from
[00:09:59] the "Beyond Divisions" committee, she said, we need to act for the good of
[00:10:03] Krakow beyond divisions, now we are very curious how
[00:10:06] her colleagues from her party will behave, regarding
[00:10:10] the Krakow city council. As Łukasz Gibała just said,
[00:10:14] the debt is huge, the debt in Krakow already reaches
[00:10:17] almost 9 billion zlotys,
[00:10:21] what will Łukasz Gibała do with this debt, does he want to stop it?
[00:11:02] this topic, of course, is in all the newspapers today, they were planning an assassination
[00:11:06] attempt on Tusk and the Head of the Ministry of National Defense, so
[00:11:09] we read, so screams
[00:11:12] almost the title in Super Express
[00:11:16] and indeed we can read about this topic today
[00:11:20] in all newspapers, also in Polski Press
[00:11:23] magazine we see the services inform. of a possible assassination attempt and
[00:11:26] of course a photo of Prime Minister Tusk and Deputy Prime Minister Kosiniak
[00:11:30] Kamysz, but now I am moving on to Gazeta Wyborcza and
[00:11:34] Rzeczpospolita, to delve into the
[00:11:37] details of this matter, because it concerns
[00:11:40] threats of an assassination attempt on the Prime Minister, the head
[00:11:44] of the Ministry of National Defense, well, one
[00:11:47] of the most important people in our country. The police
[00:11:51] received information about a possible assassination attempt on Prime Minister Donald Tusk.
[00:11:59] a meeting of representatives of services subordinate to the Ministry of Interior and Administration, if
[00:12:03] it concerns this information, let's recall, it appeared
[00:12:06] yesterday morning, on Sunday,
[00:12:09] why did we inform about this
[00:12:13] special services
[00:12:17] answers this question, because
[00:12:20] I emphasize, this is a mortally serious
[00:12:23] issue, so said Jacek
[00:12:26] Dobrzyński, as for
[00:12:30] the information from Gazeta Wyborcza, it follows
[00:12:33] from it that the threat has already been neutralized,
[00:12:36] however, here Gazeta Wyborcza also asks at the very
[00:12:40] end of this text, whether neutralized
[00:12:44] and the fact that the perpetrators have been identified is the
[00:12:47] same as being detained, we don't know
[00:12:50] that yet, but
[00:12:53] we read more that...
[00:12:55] also the spokeswoman for the Ministry of Interior and Administration, Karolina Gałecka, did not
[00:12:59] provide too much information, because, as
[00:13:02] she said, we cannot give details, but we wanted
[00:13:08] this matter from us, not from other
[00:13:11] sources, so as for TVN24's findings,
[00:13:13] here we read
[00:13:17] that a radical organization wanted to
[00:13:20] assassinate the Prime Minister, the head of the Ministry of National
[00:13:23] Defense, it was looking for volunteers
[00:13:27] who would carry out the attack,
[00:13:30] that's what the portal reported, Gazeta Wyborcza learned
[00:13:34] the name of this organization that was planning
[00:13:38] this attack, but deliberately the newspaper
[00:13:41] does not provide the name of this organization,
[00:13:44] however, it is known from what Gazeta
[00:13:48] Wyborcza found out, that on the profiles of this organization, which was planning
[00:13:51] this attack, on social media, you can... read
[00:13:55] that its goal is to fight against the "PiS agentura"
[00:13:59] in the hands of globalists and
[00:14:02] "Jew-communism".
[00:14:04] Why was this signal treated exceptionally? Well,
[00:14:08] because we learn that Gazeta
[00:14:11] Wyborcza's source in the special services claims
[00:14:15] that the information about a possible attack contained data
[00:14:18] concerning addresses where the Prime Minister, the head of the Ministry
[00:14:21] of National Defense, and their
[00:14:25] plans for the near future might be. Since information about these plans and
[00:14:29] address appeared, well, this threat
[00:14:32] seemed very probable.
[00:14:36] Also Rzeczpospolita on this topic today, and we read that
[00:14:39] the author of the email that reached
[00:14:43] the services was not the assassin, but
[00:14:46] knew the assassin's plan, and
[00:14:49] we read, the message about plans to kill Donald Tusk,
[00:14:52] the head of the Ministry of National Defense, Władysław Kosiniak Kamysz, went
[00:14:55] to, I apologize, came to the publicly available email address
[00:14:59] of the Chancellery of the State Protection Service, it has no
[00:15:03] connection with attacks in schools, so Rzeczpospolita also
[00:15:06] established, indeed a series of tragic events,
[00:15:09] tragic reports, but here Rzeczpospolita states
[00:15:13] that they are not related to this, this event,
[00:15:17] this information that appeared yesterday, is not related to what we
[00:15:20] learned last week, details
[00:15:24] were not provided.
[00:15:27] But from which email, from which address did the email come, neither
[00:15:31] was it clear whether one child or an adult
[00:15:35] could have written it, we read further that...
[00:15:39] that the author of the email was not the assassin, but
[00:15:42] revealed knowledge of planned attacks on
[00:15:45] the Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister, let the services
[00:15:48] act, the level of risk is still being assessed,
[00:15:51] cut short our questions, as write the journalists of
[00:15:55] Rzeczpospolita, one of our interlocutors,
[00:15:58] we also established that the matter is not related to
[00:16:02] attacks in schools, these are separate matters,
[00:16:05] says a source for Rzeczpospolita,
[00:16:09] I am reading to you further about this matter: the information
[00:16:12] electrified the media, however, during the briefing we did not learn why
[00:16:16] the information was considered plausible,
[00:16:18] it is possible that the guarantor of its credibility was a person from
[00:16:22] the alleged perpetrator's inner circle,
[00:16:25] who, who knew
[00:16:29] his intentions and informed the services about them.
[00:16:32] However, as for comments, here also in
[00:16:35] Rzeczpospolita there is an assessment... by Professor Tomasz Safiański,
[00:16:39] an expert in the field of Security
[00:16:41] Sciences, that in such situations, the
[00:16:45] public should hear what is actually
[00:16:48] known, and what remains only
[00:16:51] a hypothesis, because, as the
[00:16:54] expert, a doctor of legal sciences, a specialist in criminal
[00:16:58] tactics, assesses,
[00:17:01] and indicates that the problem is even
[00:17:04] more serious when we compare the alarm
[00:17:06] about a possible assassination attempt on the Prime Minister with
[00:17:10] the panic surrounding reports of knife attacks,
[00:17:13] he adds: society does not know the full picture of the situation,
[00:17:17] it does not distinguish between a credible threat and
[00:17:19] unconfirmed information, the state does not explain
[00:17:23] clearly enough what happened and on what
[00:17:26] basis the services reacted, such a comment also in
[00:17:30] Rzeczpospolita, I remind you that it is very possible that soon
[00:17:34] we will move to the conference.
[00:17:45] ambassadors, General,
[00:17:46] generale,
[00:17:51] this is a very appropriate place and a very appropriate
[00:17:54] moment, a meeting on
[00:17:58] security, the security of
[00:18:02] Europe, Poland, Ukraine, precisely here in
[00:18:04] Warsaw.
[00:18:10] for Poles,
[00:18:14] but I also think for all of Europe and for the entire Western
[00:18:16] world, the issue of security has ceased to be
[00:18:20] an abstract topic of academic debates,
[00:18:24] it has long ceased to be an academic problem, it
[00:18:27] has long ceased to be an essay,
[00:18:31] these are very concrete threats resulting from Russian aggression against
[00:18:34] Ukraine.
[00:18:40] I would like, in connection with recent
[00:18:42] events, to use this moment to
[00:18:46] name
[00:18:49] a few, seemingly obvious
[00:18:52] truths, to name again by
[00:18:54] name. The truth is usually banal,
[00:18:56] banalna,
[00:19:01] but this banal truth must be repeated today with
[00:19:04] great determination.
[00:19:16] We here in Poland, in
[00:19:19] Europe, in the entire
[00:19:21] West, cannot afford any
[00:19:25] illusions, we cannot afford
[00:19:28] the slightest hint of falsehood in assessing
[00:19:31] what is happening today in Ukraine, how
[00:19:35] the confrontation looks today in global.
[00:19:55] Anyone who tries here
[00:19:58] for symmetry, anyone who
[00:20:01] suggests that Ukraine is
[00:20:04] responsible for the war.
[00:20:08] gives an extremely valuable gift to the aggressor,
[00:20:11] Putin. We in Poland still have a vivid
[00:20:15] memory of World War
[00:20:17] II. We in Poland remember
[00:20:21] well how Nazi
[00:20:24] propaganda tried to convince Europe and
[00:20:28] the world that Poland was responsible for
[00:20:32] German aggression.
[00:20:34] We hear exactly the same thing today in Moscow.
[00:20:38] And unfortunately, increasingly often in some of our
[00:20:41] capitals.
[00:20:43] We cannot allow anyone to relativize
[00:20:46] the problem of responsibility.
[00:20:54] a few weeks ago
[00:20:57] I travelled through Ukraine on my way to a meeting in
[00:21:01] Transcarpathia,
[00:21:04] a meeting of leaders of Carpathian countries,
[00:21:08] I drove through small Ukrainian villages
[00:21:11] by car, we drove slowly, the road was
[00:21:15] destroyed,
[00:21:18] I had... small
[00:21:20] villages, in every smallest
[00:21:24] village along this road,
[00:21:27] there was
[00:21:30] a sign with
[00:21:32] pictures of young
[00:21:35] men from that
[00:21:38] village, who died in the
[00:21:41] war, I drove
[00:21:44] for 6
[00:21:46] hours passing in each.
[00:22:20] Nobody is more interested in
[00:22:23] peace, nobody is more
[00:22:26] interested in de-escalation than
[00:22:29] the Ukrainian nation and the Ukrainian state, than
[00:22:32] Poland and the Polish nation.
[00:22:35] If Ukraine fights, it fights for
[00:22:39] survival. Russia fights for
[00:22:42] dominance. Ukraine fights for
[00:22:45] survival. If we Poles so loudly
[00:22:48] raise this issue.
[00:23:29] The situation also requires a very clear, strong
[00:23:33] emphasis on the second truth,
[00:23:37] namely,
[00:23:39] in recent months, weeks, more and more
[00:23:43] voices are appearing on both sides of
[00:23:45] the Atlantic,
[00:23:49] voices,
[00:23:59] These are the voices of those politicians and those political forces
[00:24:02] who, in the name of national
[00:24:05] interest,
[00:24:07] sovereignty,
[00:24:09] security,
[00:24:11] believe that assistance to Ukraine should be
[00:24:15] stopped or
[00:24:17] reduced.
[00:24:27] But these are theses that are becoming more and more popular in various places,
[00:24:30] and these are theses from which it should
[00:24:34] follow that a patriot who cares
[00:24:37] mainly about the interest of the nation, the sovereignty of his own
[00:24:41] state, such a patriot should
[00:24:45] stop supporting
[00:24:46] Ukraine.
[00:24:50] Of these patriots,
[00:24:53] openly wants to support Russia,
[00:24:57] but many believe
[00:24:59] that Ukraine is the problem
[00:25:02] when it comes to enforcing their
[00:25:06] national interest, that Ukraine poses
[00:25:10] a problem for the sovereignty of their
[00:25:13] countries. I want to very clearly
[00:25:15] state that these words must resonate here in
[00:25:19] Poland, especially strongly,
[00:25:22] if you care about the interest of your
[00:25:25] nation, if you think about the security
[00:25:29] of your compatriots, if you truly desire
[00:25:33] the sovereignty of your state, then
[00:25:36] your duty today is to support
[00:25:39] Ukraine against Russian
[00:25:42] aggression. Anyone who for some
[00:25:45] reason, betrayal, stupidity,
[00:25:49] money.
[00:25:51] Wants to weaken Ukraine in its
[00:25:54] confrontation, in its defense against Russian aggression.