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[00:00:12] of
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[00:00:38] Coming to you from the capital Jakarta, Indonesia, you
[00:00:42] are watching special dialogue here on TVR world with me
[00:00:46] of Rahmat Idris, we are going to delf deep into the
[00:00:50] of diplomatic and balantions
[00:00:51] of the Republic
[00:00:52] of of Indonesia and
[00:00:54] of Singapore and this is our special
[00:00:56] dialogue.
[00:01:11] while the republic of Indonesia and Singapore have long enjoyed such
[00:01:14] harmonious relations beat in diplomatic and relations
[00:01:18] uh and also bilateral relations dating back to
[00:01:22] 57 years touching across some
[00:01:25] of the most fundamental aspects pertaining to both countries
[00:01:29] which includes economy and trades, educations,
[00:01:32] military and defense as well as tourism, and we are here
[00:01:36] today to explore more ways to further nurture and
[00:01:40] foster these relations and also see it grow
[00:01:43] and flourish even more in the coming future, and to
[00:01:47] get us up to speed with these matters, I am extremely
[00:01:51] honored to be
[00:01:52] of joined in this conversations by the ambassador
[00:01:55] of the Republic of Indonesia to Singapore, join me all the way
[00:01:59] from Singapore. his excellency Suryo Pratomo Ambassador
[00:02:03] Tomi, it is so good to see you again
[00:02:06] of sir, you were seated right there, we last spoke during the
[00:02:10] celebrations of Indonesia's independence, you wearing beautiful
[00:02:13] Indonesia's traditional attire, and thank you again for
[00:02:17] making the time for TVR world today, with my pleasure
[00:02:21] Rahman, ambassador Tomy, I'd like to get up
[00:02:25] to speed with what's really the
[00:02:28] matter of discussion. here for our special dialogue, which is the
[00:02:32] highlights
[00:02:33] of the relations between Indonesia and Singapore.
[00:02:36] 57 years, correct me if I'm wrong, is quite a
[00:02:40] number for one
[00:02:41] of the closest allies, the closest countries located
[00:02:45] geographically to to Indonesia, bring us up to speed, Mr.
[00:02:48] Ambassador, to some
[00:02:49] of the most significant highlights of our relations and aspects
[00:02:53] that we are truly proud of pertaining to the relations of
[00:02:57] Indonesia and Singapore. if
[00:03:01] we look back in
[00:03:02] 1965,
[00:03:07] ramar have to mention that we have very bad
[00:03:10] relationship and at that
[00:03:13] time we know
[00:03:15] that raise the
[00:03:19] untrust between the two countries, but like
[00:03:23] the president mentioned
[00:03:27] when he delivered a speech at this:
[00:03:31] last years that president prabo is
[00:03:35] mentioned that Indonesia is
[00:03:38] implementing that we call we call a good
[00:03:42] neighbor policy and Indonesia in singapore is trying
[00:03:45] to revive and to
[00:03:49] to to build the
[00:03:53] good relationship between the two countries and now i
[00:03:56] think the the the the
[00:04:00] significant
[00:04:03] relationship between the two country and improving very
[00:04:07] well and
[00:04:08] a now trust and confidence between the two countries
[00:04:11] also arise, so for
[00:04:15] examples in inaugurated of
[00:04:20] of president ones
[00:04:21] of the
[00:04:22] of leaders to attend the
[00:04:26] of of inauguration and next week the prime minister song also
[00:04:28] of will be the first head of state have of
[00:04:32] government who have a state
[00:04:34] in visit to Indonesia and will be met with the president
[00:04:38] prabo and also vice president and
[00:04:41] to what we call
[00:04:44] to foster our our
[00:04:48] relationship that's why i can say
[00:04:52] that the relationship between the two countries now
[00:04:56] in very good shape and improving right '
[00:05:00] like to touch first on one
[00:05:01] of the most fundamental aspects of our bilateral relations, which
[00:05:05] is the economic and trades. Mr. Ambassador, allow me
[00:05:09] to just sort of unveil
[00:05:11] of the statistics for. the first quarter of 2024 alone, we are touching nearly
[00:05:15] 9 billion US dollars worth of investments from Singapore
[00:05:19] into Indonesia, second quarter, nearly 5 billion US dollars,
[00:05:23] which is a 22. something percent rise
[00:05:26] year
[00:05:27] on year on that alone, signifying a very
[00:05:31] strong economic foundations between the two countries and notably
[00:05:34] being the biggest investors into Indonesia, so what more can you tell
[00:05:38] us in details about these numbers, mr ambassador?
[00:05:43] Yes, Rahmat, I think Singapore
[00:05:46] is aware that Indonesia is a
[00:05:50] big country and very potential, so that's why in the
[00:05:53] last 10 years Singapore become the biggest investor for
[00:05:57] Indonesia, and for this year until the third
[00:06:01] quarter, I think the number the investment from Singapore
[00:06:04] to Indonesia have
[00:06:07] around more than 15 billion US
[00:06:10] dollar, so total. last 10 years
[00:06:14] in Singapore investment to Indonesia is more than
[00:06:18] 75 billion US dollar yeah
[00:06:20] so uh I think this is the
[00:06:24] the
[00:06:24] the signal that Indonesia is
[00:06:28] very attractive place for the Singapore businesses
[00:06:32] so that's why so many Singapore businesses now
[00:06:35] also come to Indonesia and trying to
[00:06:39] find the the the opportunity.
[00:06:43] Next week I will be
[00:06:45] accompanied the Malay Singapore
[00:06:48] association businesses Association to visit
[00:06:52] Indonesia and to trying to find the opportunity of
[00:06:55] Indonesia
[00:06:57] inter balance between ambassador being the largest investors
[00:07:01] into Indonesia walk us through some the biggest
[00:07:05] aspects sectors that Singapore is highly keen
[00:07:09] to interest in our country.
[00:07:13] at the moment i think the green
[00:07:16] energy is one the very
[00:07:20] interested by singapore businesses so last
[00:07:23] i
[00:07:24] think this year when we have
[00:07:28] the forum in jakarta Indonesia and singapore have
[00:07:31] agreed Indonesia especially agreed to
[00:07:35] export 4 gigawatt green energy to
[00:07:38] singapore so this is one area that
[00:07:43] why Singapore business is
[00:07:47] very attractive to Indonesia, the second one in the
[00:07:50] manufacturing, so Singapore, as we know,
[00:07:54] have only granted by the President Yokovi
[00:07:57] in 2016 that we have
[00:08:01] a special industrial park dedicated for
[00:08:04] Singapore in Kandal, and now
[00:08:08] around 20 hectares have already fully with
[00:08:12] the investment from Singapore and that's why the government
[00:08:16] local government in Kandal is trying to edit around
[00:08:20] 2000 hectares more to attract
[00:08:24] investment in Singapore, but not only in
[00:08:26] Kandal,
[00:08:28] in many in many area of Indonesia, singapore business is
[00:08:32] attract and willing to
[00:08:36] invest Indonesia, I think this morning for the
[00:08:39] example the Singapore ambassador. Indonesia
[00:08:43] visited Grasik with the
[00:08:47] sample to look the
[00:08:49] opportunity that Singapore businesses can be
[00:08:53] infected in in East Java, so I
[00:08:57] think still many area that the Singapore interested
[00:09:00] including in Halal product and
[00:09:04] also for the SMPs Halal industry and tourisms are
[00:09:08] indeed on the rise as of this moment Mr. Ambassador.
[00:09:12] Your excellency, before we close this very particular segment, I'd like to
[00:09:16] get your take on the new capital of Santara, which
[00:09:20] is a carry over from our previous administrations president
[00:09:23] jokodo to now a president, a current president
[00:09:27] president, meaning that I like to get your
[00:09:31] insights as whether or not the investments,
[00:09:34] some portions or rather the investments from Singapore will be
[00:09:38] projected towards the ongoing projects the new capital of Indonesia.
[00:09:43] will that be something that prime minister Lawrence will be put on
[00:09:47] the table later on during his state visit to the country in your
[00:09:50] opinion? two years
[00:09:53] ago, Indonesia singapore is trying to
[00:09:56] invite the Singapore businesses
[00:10:00] to visited new
[00:10:02] capital, we want to give it the
[00:10:06] opportunity for Singapore businesses to seeing
[00:10:09] directly what was happened in the new capital. seeing is
[00:10:13] believing and around 104 singapore
[00:10:17] business
[00:10:21] uh join with us uh when?
[00:10:25] through new capital and after the
[00:10:29] visit around 24 letter of intent have for
[00:10:33] the offer by singapore businesses to
[00:10:35] authority the new
[00:10:38] capital and until now they are still
[00:10:41] waiting reply from the authority
[00:10:45] the capital because they have still a
[00:10:49] problem with the land acquisition for
[00:10:52] example one singapore company
[00:10:56] join with the PLN, they are have already
[00:10:59] developed 5 megawatt
[00:11:03] solar panel in new capital, as we
[00:11:07] know that the new capital is will
[00:11:09] be model the green city of
[00:11:12] Indonesia and all the energy is must be coming
[00:11:16] from the green energy, the problem now is
[00:11:20] facing is how the land acquisition until now the
[00:11:24] authority. cannot be sure how
[00:11:27] sand can use the land in the new capital, so
[00:11:31] I think the problem is not coming from the investor, the
[00:11:35] problem is in our a problem, especially in the
[00:11:38] authority of new capital, how they can be
[00:11:41] settle the the the main problem especially for
[00:11:45] the land acquisition in new capital, that's
[00:11:49] certainly all the details that we need to iron out in
[00:11:51] the near future, we'll have to take a quick break, miss ambassador do stay. with us, special
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[00:25:55] Hello, you're still watching special dialogue here on TV
[00:25:58] our world, we are still deep in conversation with the ambassador the Republic of India.
[00:26:02] Indonesia to singapore, his excellency Suryo Pratomo joining
[00:26:06] me from Singapore. Mr. Ambassador, thank you very
[00:26:10] much for still being with us for this conversations. We're now moving
[00:26:14] to our next segment the special dialogue. I like to give
[00:26:18] insights a very crucial matter pertaining to
[00:26:21] the borders of Indonesia and Singapore,
[00:26:25] particularly the air space. As we know
[00:26:27] you mentioned also very briefly at the beginning that the
[00:26:30] initial period of our relations. quite tense between Indonesia and Singapore and
[00:26:34] back in 1995 uh the flight information
[00:26:38] region offer on above two very important
[00:26:42] outer islands of Indonesia near sumatra has belong
[00:26:46] to Singapore and this year March
[00:26:49] 2024 mark such a milestone went the
[00:26:53] realignment the air space the
[00:26:57] fur region back to Jakarta has been
[00:27:01] signed what more can you tell us about these achievements that have been
[00:27:04] long negotiated by both countries?
[00:27:08] yes, i think we have
[00:27:12] three crucial agreement that have
[00:27:15] already stopped around 17
[00:27:18] years since 2007. the
[00:27:22] first one is about the applied information region, the second one is
[00:27:26] the defense cooperation agreement and the third one is extradition
[00:27:30] treaty and ' we also
[00:27:33] i happy that in 2022
[00:27:37] after we passing the very
[00:27:41] crucial moment for the pandemic covid-19, i think the two
[00:27:45] leaders have agreed to to to
[00:27:49] to sign to in the agreement for the
[00:27:52] three crucial issues and
[00:27:56] last year or mean this year
[00:27:59] 2024 the parliament we
[00:28:02] ratify and all the three agreement is
[00:28:06] fully implemented
[00:28:08] and for the
[00:28:12] fear the flight information agent the two countries is
[00:28:16] agreed espcially for the the the
[00:28:19] the area for landing and for chi we are
[00:28:23] not together to to control
[00:28:27] so that why
[00:28:27] the 10 Indonesian
[00:28:29] officer since march.
[00:28:33] 2024 now they
[00:28:36] are post in the changi air traffic
[00:28:40] control and they can
[00:28:43] also work together with the Singapore
[00:28:46] officer to control how the
[00:28:50] traffic for landing and take off around
[00:28:53] Changi and Singapore have already agreed
[00:28:56] to uh give it back
[00:29:00] all the area surrounding the nafuna so that's
[00:29:04] why
[00:29:05] for the soverenty now Indonesia
[00:29:08] have get all the things that we are
[00:29:11] need to implementing the unclos
[00:29:15] 1982 so this is very significant for
[00:29:18] for Indonesia for the CA also the two countries
[00:29:22] now working together in military to how
[00:29:26] implement the specially training area especially
[00:29:30] in once again in Natuna and because the
[00:29:33] areas surrounding the natuna now have be totally changed and
[00:29:37] that's why on July this year the two
[00:29:41] officer from the ministry of defense
[00:29:44] forces they are sitting together and working how
[00:29:48] to uh once again to fix the area
[00:29:52] for the training ground for the Singapore and for extra
[00:29:55] disciplity now we are working together how
[00:29:59] implement specially uh
[00:30:03] what that Indonesia need for the
[00:30:06] fugitive to probably stay in
[00:30:09] Singapore, so I think with the two three
[00:30:13] agreement at the moment we don't have
[00:30:16] any barrier how to improve
[00:30:19] our relationship between the two countries.
[00:30:23] well ambassador tommy on the note the defense
[00:30:27] cooperations, just september this years another
[00:30:31] sessions of joint. military drill took place between Indonesia and
[00:30:34] Singapore and this is something that has become a traditions for over 36
[00:30:38] years between Indonesia and Singapore's in terms
[00:30:42] of sharing practices in military and also
[00:30:46] defense. what can you tell us about uh
[00:30:50] the adoption of military technologies between India and Singapore,
[00:30:53] particularly the two regions contributions towards the
[00:30:57] regional peace as we're now entering peer.