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[00:01:36] President Prabowo Subianto instructed
[00:01:39] his staff to continue strengthening efforts to deal with
[00:01:42] forest and land fires in a number of regions in Indonesia.
[00:01:56] The Ministry of P2MI appealed to migrant workers.
[00:02:00] Indonesians in Saudi Arabia to increase
[00:02:03] vigilance following a series
[00:02:05] Legal, and Security Affairs Dudung Abdurrahman after of attacks at a number of points, including at King Khalid
[00:02:09] International Airport in Riyadh.
[00:02:12] Abdurrahman after attending a limited meeting
[00:02:21] Meanwhile, data collection
[00:02:26] Let's start with the first information, Mr. President Prabowo Subianto
[00:02:30] has instructed his staff to continue strengthening efforts to deal with forest
[00:02:34] and land fires in a number of regions
[00:02:37] in Indonesia. The head of state also ordered all resources
[00:02:40] to be deployed optimally to accelerate extinguishing and
[00:02:44] prevent the spread
[00:02:45] of fires.
[00:02:50] President Prabowo Subianto led a limited meeting discussing
[00:02:54] the handling of forest and land fires at the Presidential Palace, Jakarta
[00:02:57] on October 12, 2026.
[00:03:00] The Cabinet Secretariat of the Republic of Indonesia through its official account
[00:03:03] @sekretariat.kabinet stated that in the meeting
[00:03:07] President Prabowo Subianto received a report on the progress and
[00:03:10] steps taken to handle forest and land fires that have been running.
[00:03:14] Based on the report from the head of the National Disaster Management Agency or
[00:03:17] BNPB, there are still around 639 hectares of land
[00:03:21] in six priority provinces that are in the process
[00:03:25] of recording economic growth of being extinguished. The government's main focus at this time is handling
[00:03:27] forest fires in Central Kalimantan and South
[00:03:30] increased by more Sumatra. To handle these forest fires, the government has
[00:03:33] intensified ground operations supported by more than
[00:03:37] the necessary 60,177 combined personnel with an average
[00:03:39] extinguishing success rate of more than 80%
[00:03:43] of the newly burned land each day.
[00:03:47] Meanwhile, four other priority provinces consisting of Riau,
[00:03:50] West Kalimantan, Jambi and South Kalimantan have shown better
[00:03:54] developments. The government will continue to optimize weather modification
[00:03:58] operations to utilize the growth of rain clouds so that extinguishing
[00:04:02] can be carried out promptly and comprehensively. President
[00:04:05] Prabowo Subianto also ordered that forest and land fire handling efforts continue
[00:04:09] to be strengthened and all resources be deployed optimally to
[00:04:12] accelerate extinguishing and prevent the spread
[00:04:15] the necessary of fires.
[00:04:19] President Prabowo Subianto instructed the acceleration
[00:04:22] of extinguishing forest and land fires in a number
[00:04:26] of regions in Indonesia. The government will prioritize handling
[00:04:30] forest fires in six provinces with a concentration of handling in
[00:04:33] Central Kalimantan and South
[00:04:35] Sumatra.
[00:04:40] Coordinating Minister for Political and Security Affairs Dudung
[00:04:44] Abdurrahman stated that President Prabowo Subianto gives
[00:04:47] serious attention to handling forest and land fires in a number
[00:04:50] of areas. Based on the report from the Head of the National Disaster
[00:04:53] Management Agency, there are six provinces that are the focus of forest and land fire
[00:04:57] handling. One of the priority areas is the Tanjung Puting National
[00:05:00] Park area in Central Kalimantan. This area is a concern
[00:05:04] because it is the habitat of various wild animals. He
[00:05:07] explained that extinguishing operations now rely more on land routes because
[00:05:11] thick smoke makes aerial extinguishing difficult. This was conveyed
[00:05:15] by the Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal, and Security Affairs after attending
[00:05:18] forest and land fire handling led by President Prabowo Subianto at the Presidential
[00:05:22] Palace, Jakarta, on October 12,
[00:05:23] 2026.
[00:05:27] Mr. President, there is a report from the head of the BNPB
[00:05:30] that there are six provinces that are the focus,
[00:05:34] and two provinces such as Central
[00:05:37] Kalimantan and South Sumatra.
[00:05:40] Then, the priority in Central Kalimantan
[00:05:44] is Tanjung Puting or around
[00:05:48] the national park, because it must be protected
[00:05:51] because there are animals there, and
[00:05:54] then the report from the head
[00:05:58] of the BMPB states that
[00:06:01] helicopter operations have been
[00:06:04] carried out and are mostly dominated by
[00:06:08] ground operations. Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal, and Security Affairs Dudung Abdurrahman stated
[00:06:11] that President Subianto also appreciates TNI, Polri
[00:06:14] personnel and all components involved in handling
[00:06:17] forest and land fires. The government is pursuing various steps to reduce
[00:06:20] forest and land fires, including mitigation operations and weather modification
[00:06:24] involving the Meteorology, Climatology and Geophysics Agency or
[00:06:27] BMKG.
[00:06:31] Meanwhile, Coordinating Minister for Political and Security Affairs Dudung
[00:06:35] Abdurrahman stated that the government has no
[00:06:38] plans to designate forest and land fires as a national
[00:06:42] disaster. The Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal, and Security Affairs believes
[00:06:46] that the government is still able to overcome forest and land fires that
[00:06:49] have hit a number of regions in Indonesia.
[00:06:54] Coordinating Minister for Political and Security Affairs Dudung
[00:06:58] Abdurrahman believes that the government is still able to overcome forest and
[00:07:02] land fires that have hit a number of regions in Indonesia. Therefore, the government has no
[00:07:05] plans to designate forest and land fires as a national disaster. He
[00:07:09] emphasized that the government is making every effort to overcome forest and land fires.
[00:07:14] This was conveyed by Coordinating Minister for Political,
[00:07:17] a limited meeting led by President Prabowo Subianto at the Presidential Palace Complex in Jakarta.
[00:07:21] Yes, the President's target is as soon as possible.
[00:07:25] He is very concentrated
[00:07:28] on the issue of forest fires. This will be declared a national
[00:07:31] disaster.
[00:07:35] Regarding the offer of assistance for handling forest and land fires from Malaysia and Singapore,
[00:07:39] Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal, and Security Affairs Dudung Abdurrahman admitted that the government has not discussed the
[00:07:43] offer of assistance further. The Indonesian government is currently continuing
[00:07:46] to intensify efforts to extinguish forest and land fires. One of the
[00:07:49] current focuses is the fire in the Tanjung Puting National Park area, Central
[00:07:53] Kalimantan.
[00:07:58] Coordinating Minister for Political and Security Affairs Dudung Abdurrahman
[00:08:01] ensures that combined personnel tasked with extinguishing forest
[00:08:04] and land fires in Kalimantan and Sumatra are rotated
[00:08:08] periodically. This step is taken to prevent field
[00:08:11] officers from experiencing
[00:08:14] fatigue.
[00:08:19] The government ensures that personnel rotation is carried out in handling
[00:08:23] forest and land fires in Kalimantan and Sumatra.
[00:08:26] This step aims to maintain the physical condition of officers so
[00:08:30] that they do not experience extreme fatigue during extinguishing
[00:08:33] operations. Coordinating Minister for Political and Security Affairs
[00:08:36] Dudung Abdurrahman stated that personnel changes have been made, including
[00:08:40] by the TNI and Polri. This is
[00:08:43] part of efforts to maintain the continuity of operations in the field.
[00:08:47] This was conveyed by Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal, and Security Affairs Dudung Abdurrahman after
[00:08:50] attending a limited meeting on forest and land fire handling led by
[00:08:53] President Prabowo Subianto at the Presidential Palace, Jakarta. It was also
[00:08:57] conveyed that Kostrad was also
[00:09:00] deployed, there was rotation from the TNI Commander,
[00:09:03] there was a replacement, and of course,
[00:09:07] this has certainly been considered by the leaders
[00:09:10] of both the TNI and
[00:09:13] the police. Forest fire extinguishing in Kalimantan and Sumatra is currently being carried out by a combined
[00:09:17] ground and air task force consisting of personnel
[00:09:20] from the fire department, TNI and Polri, Manggala
[00:09:23] Agni and forest police from the Ministry of Forestry, Weather
[00:09:27] Modification Operation Team, BMKG, BPBD,
[00:09:31] BNPB, forestry agencies in the regions, as well as volunteers and
[00:09:34] the community.
[00:09:39] The Ministry of Environment or KLH plans to
[00:09:43] delete Article 69 of Law Number 32 of
[00:09:46] 2009 concerning environmental protection and
[00:09:50] management, which allows people
[00:09:53] to burn land for a maximum of 2
[00:09:55] hectares.
[00:10:00] Minister of Environment Jumhur Hidayat stated that the government is trying to reduce
[00:10:03] forest fire cases by planning to abolish Article 69 of
[00:10:06] Law 32 of 2009. This was
[00:10:10] conveyed at a press conference on the coordination of the climate
[00:10:14] change conference COP 31 in Jakarta. However, on the other hand,
[00:10:17] the government will also pay attention to indigenous communities who are constrained by
[00:10:20] the rather expensive cost of land clearing.
[00:10:23] The former Chairman of KSPSI
[00:10:27] emphasized that funding will be limited in a number of regions
[00:10:31] to narrow the opportunities for intentional forest fires.
[00:10:34] The government is also drafting a funding plan for indigenous communities with
[00:10:38] a climate funding scheme.
[00:10:41] We have agreed to submit a revision to the DPR, so
[00:10:45] that article is completely closed, but at the same time,
[00:10:48] we are looking for a way out for the community who say
[00:10:51] they need funds to open land with open access, not
[00:10:55] concessions. This can
[00:10:58] also be offset or discussed with climate
[00:11:02] funding, because when he burns
[00:11:05] it, honestly, our NDC
[00:11:08] will be disrupted again, sir, because
[00:11:11] this smoke has tremendous
[00:11:14] emissions. The process of revoking Article 69 of Law Number
[00:11:18] 32 of 2009 concerning
[00:11:21] environmental protection and management or
[00:11:24] PP. LLH is a government initiative
[00:11:29] to the DPR. It is hoped that
[00:11:32] with this revision, there will be no more corporate parties taking advantage of regulatory
[00:11:36] loopholes to burn forests with the excuse of land
[00:11:39] clearing. Coordinating Minister for Political
[00:11:43] and Security Affairs Dudung Abdurrahman stated that
[00:11:46] the government will immediately inaugurate the Head of the Peat
[00:11:48] and Mangrove Management Agency or
[00:11:51] BPGMN next week. The establishment
[00:11:55] of this agency is part of the government's efforts
[00:11:58] to strengthen the prevention and handling of forest
[00:12:02] and land
[00:12:03] fires.
[00:12:07] Coordinating Minister for Political and Security Affairs Dudung Abdurrahman stated
[00:12:10] that the Director General of Natural Resources Conservation and Ecosystems of the Ministry
[00:12:14] of Forestry, Setyawan Pudyatmoko, will be one of
[00:12:18] the candidates for the head of the Peat and Mangrove Management Agency or
[00:12:21] BPGMN. The Coordinating Minister explained that the preparations for
[00:12:25] the establishment of BPGMN have been underway. The establishment of the new institution
[00:12:29] is expected to be followed up with an inauguration soon.
[00:12:32] This was conveyed by Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal, and Security Affairs Dudung
[00:12:37] regarding forest and land fire handling led by President Prabowo Subianto at the Presidential
[00:12:41] Palace, Jakarta. From the President,
[00:12:44] there is a report from the head of the BNPB that there are six
[00:12:48] provinces that are the focus, and
[00:12:51] two provinces such as Central Kalimantan.
[00:12:55] with South Sumatra.
[00:12:57] Then there is also the priority
[00:13:01] in Central Kalimantan, which is Tanjung Puting or
[00:13:04] around the national park, because this must be protected
[00:13:08] because there are animals there, and
[00:13:11] then the report from the head
[00:13:14] of the BMPB states that
[00:13:18] helicopter operations have been carried out
[00:13:22] and are mostly dominated by ground operations.
[00:13:26] President Prabowo Subianto established the Peat and Mangrove
[00:13:30] Management Agency or BPGMN.
[00:13:33] The establishment of the agency was conveyed by the head of state in a meeting with
[00:13:36] 22 experts at Merdeka Palace, Jakarta, on September 24
[00:13:40] last year. The agency was formed to mitigate and
[00:13:43] prevent the recurrence of forest and land fires every
[00:13:46] year.
[00:13:50] Until October 9, 2026. The Ministry of Transportation
[00:13:53] emphasized that passengers affected
[00:14:06] Director General of Air Transportation Lukman F Laysa
[00:14:10] said more than 1,600
[00:14:13] domestic flights were affected by forest and
[00:14:16] land fires during the period of August 11 to October
[00:14:20] 9, 2026.
[00:14:22] The Ministry of Transportation continues to monitor and supervise
[00:14:26] flight operations in a number of regions in Indonesia
[00:14:29] that are affected by forest and land fire smoke. This condition
[00:14:32] caused visibility at a number of airports
[00:14:35] to decrease, affecting the smooth
[00:14:38] flow of flights. The Ministry of Transportation emphasized that passengers
[00:14:41] affected by flight cancellations can receive a full
[00:14:45] refund of their ticket costs in accordance with applicable
[00:14:48] regulations. Based on monitoring results and
[00:14:52] coordination with Airport Authority offices, Airport
[00:14:55] operators, Air Navigation Service providers, and
[00:14:58] flight operators,
[00:15:01] 1,673 flights were affected
[00:15:05] by forest and land fires during that
[00:15:08] period. Of that number, 745
[00:15:10] flights experienced delays, 907 flights
[00:15:14] were cancelled or postponed,
[00:15:17] 15 flights were diverted to other
[00:15:21] airports, and six flights returned to the departure airport.
[00:16:10] Rahadi Usman Airport in Ketapang and Syamsuddin Noor Airport in Banjarmasin. Flight disruptions also
[00:16:12] occurred in Sumatra, including Sultan Taha
[00:16:16] Airport in Jambi and Sultan Mahmud Badaruddin
[00:16:19] 2 Airport in
[00:16:20] Palembang.
[00:16:26] Moving on to other news, heavy rainfall caused two
[00:16:29] rivers, namely the Bingai and Mencirim rivers,
[00:16:33] to overflow, resulting in 4,392
[00:16:37] residents being forced to evacuate due to floods affecting three
[00:16:40] sub-districts.
[00:16:46] The Head of the Binjai City BPBD explained that the river
[00:16:50] water level had started to rise since Sunday night, which caused
[00:16:53] the Bingai and Mancirim rivers to overflow.
[00:16:57] Finally, on Monday morning, the overflowing water caused floods
[00:17:01] that submerged thousands of residents' homes in Binjai.
[00:17:03] The evacuation of all affected
[00:17:06] residents from the floods had been carried out since Sunday
[00:17:10] night until Monday morning. All residents are still
[00:17:13] evacuated. The worst floods occurred in
[00:17:16] Binjai Kota sub-district and in Binjai Selatan sub-district,
[00:17:19] floods also occurred in Rambung Timur village,
[00:17:22] covering the area. The floods also submerged a number
[00:17:26] of public facilities and two places of worship or prayer rooms.
[00:17:29] Kalaksa BPBD Baros explained that his agency deployed
[00:17:32] all Binjai BPBD personnel and rubber boat equipment
[00:17:36] to evacuate residents trapped by the flood when
[00:17:40] the flood occurred. The most affected residential area
[00:17:43] by the flood was residents living on the river
[00:17:46] banks. After the incident, according to Baros,
[00:17:49] his party ensured that all residents affected by the flood were successfully
[00:17:53] evacuated and there were no casualties or injuries.
[00:17:58] on property losses caused by the flood is still
[00:18:01] ongoing.
[00:18:06] A total of 225 households or
[00:18:08] 498 people were affected by flash
[00:18:12] floods in Padang, West Sumatra, and 672 people
[00:18:16] were evacuated in Kuranji sub-district. At least
[00:18:19] 120 housing units were reported
[00:18:22] affected by the flood, and road access around the local PDAM
[00:18:26] in Guo
[00:18:27] was cut off.
[00:18:31] Flash floods submerged three sub-districts in Padang, West Sumatra, triggered by
[00:18:35] heavy rain since Saturday, October
[00:18:37] 10, 2026. Based on data from the Air Dingin watershed
[00:18:41] rainfall station, rainfall reached 112 mm
[00:18:44] in 6 hours. Provisional data
[00:18:48] from the West Sumatra Provincial BPBD as of Sunday, October 11,
[00:18:51] 2026, indicated that the flood has not receded and the process of data collection and
[00:18:54] evacuation of residents is still ongoing.
[00:18:57] However, floods in some areas have started to recede, leaving
[00:19:01] deposits of mud carried by the flood. Based on
[00:19:05] BNPB data, approximately 225 households or
[00:19:08] 498 people were reported affected, and 672
[00:19:12] people were reported to have evacuated to Kuranji
[00:19:15] sub-district and are spread across three locations, namely 367
[00:19:19] people in tents in Lapau Munggu and residents'
[00:19:22] houses, 250 people at the Arituan Musala in Kampung
[00:19:26] Tengah, and 55 people at Warung Jembatan Guo.
[00:19:29] Approximately 120 housing units were reported affected by the flood, with
[00:19:33] details of one severely damaged house and four moderately
[00:19:36] damaged houses, as well as road access around the local PDAM
[00:19:40] in Guo being cut off. The handling of this flash
[00:19:44] flood involved the West Sumatra Provincial Government, the Padang
[00:19:47] City Government, Basarnas Padang, TNI Polri,
[00:19:51] BPBD, Social Services, volunteers, and the community.
[00:19:53] In addition to evacuation, assistance was also distributed
[00:19:56] to evacuees.
[00:20:01] The Ministry of Social Affairs prepared a living allowance assistance scheme for residents
[00:20:05] affected by disasters, including flash flood victims in Padang,
[00:20:08] West Sumatra. This assistance will be
[00:20:11] allocated at Rp15,000 per individual per
[00:20:15] day, which will be disbursed for 3 months during the post-
[00:20:18] emergency
[00:20:19] phase.
[00:20:25] Social Minister Saifullah Yusuf explained that during the disaster
[00:20:28] emergency phase, the Ministry of Social Affairs focused on distributing logistical assistance in the form
[00:20:32] of ready-to-eat food, clothing, and providing public kitchen facilities
[00:20:36] for the evacuees. After the emergency period ends,
[00:20:40] the government moves to the recovery stage through the sustainable
[00:20:42] support scheme. This scheme includes condolences for those who died and
[00:20:46] were injured, then the next stage is support for.
[00:21:23] President Prabowo Subianto received Minister of Culture Fadli Zon at the Presidential
[00:21:27] Palace, Jakarta, on October 12. The meeting, which
[00:21:30] coincided with Indonesian Museum Day, discussed the
[00:21:34] revitalization of museums,
[00:21:37] palaces, and various cultural assets throughout
[00:21:41] Indonesia.
[00:21:47] Cabinet Secretary TD Indrawijaya on social media Instagram
[00:21:50] @sekretariat.kabinet stated that the meeting discussed
[00:21:54] the acceleration of revitalization and arrangement of museums, cultural
[00:21:58] heritage sites, and other cultural assets in Indonesia throughout
[00:22:00] 2026. The revitalization efforts of museums are not only through
[00:22:04] physical building improvements but also strengthening historical narratives,
[00:22:08] storylines, and exhibition arrangements so that they become more informative and attractive
[00:22:12] to the public.
[00:22:14] The Cabinet Secretary assessed that the use of digital technology and interactive experiences
[00:22:18] are also encouraged to increase the attractiveness of museums, especially for the younger
[00:22:22] generation, and at the same time strengthen the understanding of national history and
[00:22:25] identity. The meeting between President Prabowo and Minister
[00:22:29] of Culture Fadli Zon also discussed strengthening the capacity
[00:22:32] of human resources managing museums and developing
[00:22:35] cultural, historical, and religious tourism as part of efforts
[00:22:39] to make culture a new economic driver.
[00:22:42] The Cabinet Secretary stated that President Prabowo
[00:22:46] emphasized the importance of preserving and maintaining the nation's cultural heritage so that it does
[00:22:49] not only become a legacy of the past, but also a source
[00:22:53] of knowledge, pride, and inspiration for future generations.
[00:22:57] Revitalization is expected to be able to present museums and cultural
[00:23:01] sites that are more vibrant, relevant, and easily accessible to the
[00:23:03] public.
[00:23:07] Deputy Coordinating Minister for Economic Affairs, Dr. Hari Wibowo,
[00:23:10] said there has been growth in Quick Response Code
[00:23:14] Indonesian Standard or Kris transactions and growth
[00:23:17] in online shopping, which is a shift in shopping trends.
[00:23:42] Deputy Coordinating Minister for Economic Affairs, Hari
[00:23:45] Wibowo, stated that this condition reflects a change
[00:23:49] in people's shopping preferences from a number
[00:23:52] of products to service consumption,
[00:23:55] travel, and shopping through digital
[00:23:57] platforms. Hari emphasized that the government believes
[00:24:01] that this shift in consumption patterns has been reflected in data
[00:24:05] from the Central Statistics Agency or BPS. In addition, he
[00:24:08] also highlighted regions with a strong manufacturing industry
[00:24:12] base, which are considered capable
[00:24:15] above the national average. Cura transaction
[00:24:20] than 100%, ma'am, yes,
[00:24:23] if the Cura transaction increases drastically, that means there are
[00:24:27] indeed many transactions, much consumption,
[00:24:30] yes, so what happened
[00:24:33] is not weakening purchasing power, not at all,
[00:24:37] what happened is a very significant
[00:24:40] shift in community consumption patterns
[00:24:44] due to different lifestyles. On the
[00:24:47] same occasion, the Head of BPS, Amalia Adininggar Widyasanti, stated
[00:24:50] that people's purchasing power during the first 6 months of
[00:24:53] 2026 was still considered strong, because throughout that semester
[00:24:57] it still grew above 5% of household
[00:25:01] consumption. Amalia said this condition is reflected in household
[00:25:04] consumption expenditures during the last two quarters,
[00:25:08] which still reached 5% annually. How is the purchasing
[00:25:12] power of the people in Indonesia? Based
[00:25:14] on BPS records, it is indeed still
[00:25:18] strong. Because during one semester, it still grew
[00:25:22] above 5% of public consumption,
[00:25:25] and what was seen in our data records
[00:25:29] is a shift in community consumption
[00:25:32] patterns because it is influenced by different
[00:25:35] lifestyles. In the transportation sector,
[00:25:38] BPS previously reported that the number of domestic
[00:25:41] transport passengers increased by 8.9% to
[00:25:45] 2.7 million passengers throughout August
[00:25:47] 2026, with the highest increase recorded in
[00:25:51] ferry transport at 20.13%
[00:25:54] to 4.66 million
[00:25:56] passengers, while in the tourism
[00:25:59] sector, the latest BPS report showed movement.
[00:26:03] 2026 reached
[00:26:06] 104.30
[00:26:08] million trips, an increase of 11.47%
[00:26:12] compared to the same period in August
[00:28:56] that it has sent a new summons schedule to the Minister of Agrarian Affairs and Spatial Planning.
[00:29:00] BPN Nusron Wahid. KPK said. Investigators scheduled
[00:29:03] the summons of Nusron for this
[00:29:05] week.
[00:29:11] KPK spokesman Budi Prasetyo has not yet explained
[00:29:14] the exact day of the summons for Nusron, but Budi stated
[00:29:18] that Nusron has time to arrange his schedule so he can
[00:29:22] attend the re-examination summons this
[00:29:24] week. Budi said the letter has been delivered,
[00:29:28] meaning brother NW has enough time to arrange
[00:29:32] the schedule. So that when the person concerned will
[00:29:35] attend cooperatively to fulfill the investigator's summons and provide
[00:29:40] information,
[00:29:42] so that the case handling process at ATRBPN can also
[00:29:46] proceed positively and of course everyone expects an effective
[00:29:49] law enforcement process. Investigators rescheduled
[00:29:53] his examination this week and the
[00:29:56] letter has been delivered, meaning
[00:30:00] brother NB has... Enough time to make
[00:30:04] schedule arrangements so we believe that
[00:30:08] when the person concerned will attend
[00:30:11] cooperatively to fulfill the investigator's
[00:30:15] summons and provide
[00:30:17] information. Previously, ATR BPN Minister Nusron
[00:30:21] Wahid did not attend the KPK's summons as a witness in the alleged
[00:30:24] bribery case for managing the right of building use or HGB at
[00:30:28] PT Sumarekon in Bogor. At that time, Nusron
[00:30:31] was summoned on Wednesday, October 7,
[00:30:33] 2026. Budi said Nusron's testimony was needed
[00:30:37] by investigators and he stated the testimony.