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[00:00:00] essential information and advice from the best
[00:00:04] specialists. Info Diaspora, how many
[00:00:08] Romanians, so many answers. At TVR International.
[00:00:37] Romanians from near and Romanians from far, welcome to a new
[00:00:40] meeting under the generic article 7. Article
[00:00:44] 7, the Constitution of Romania, Romanians
[00:00:47] from abroad. I propose
[00:00:50] in this edition to
[00:00:53] talk about people who have
[00:00:57] returned to Romania to give
[00:01:00] back what they received in the years spent
[00:01:04] in Romania. So, among the topics
[00:01:07] that I would like to propose to you at our meeting, under the generic 7,
[00:01:10] will be the transfer of
[00:01:14] expertise from the diaspora to Romania and why
[00:01:17] not back. Also about
[00:01:20] partnerships, here, there, in all fields,
[00:01:23] about common applications for
[00:01:26] accessing funds, whether we are talking about
[00:01:30] culture, research or other fields,
[00:01:34] also about your professionalism
[00:01:37] as Romanians settled abroad,
[00:01:40] who, with the experience you
[00:01:44] have, can help
[00:01:46] Romania in countless fields so
[00:01:49] that things work better and better
[00:01:53] and my guests who left
[00:01:56] Romania in the 90s, I would start
[00:02:00] with journalist Robert Schwarz, Robert Schwarz is
[00:02:04] the one who led the Romanian language editorial office at
[00:02:07] 2CV for 20 years from 2002 to
[00:02:11] 2022,
[00:02:13] from interpersonal also, when he left Romania, he was
[00:02:17] the director of the German Göte college, then it was called
[00:02:21] the German high school,
[00:02:24] part of the dictum, because here everything is Robert Schwarz Journalist, publicist and artist, because
[00:02:27] he also sang, thank you, I'm glad
[00:02:30] to be here on your show, yes, as
[00:02:34] a student and after that for a few years I sang in the choral group
[00:02:37] Song, yes, it was a unique,
[00:02:40] extraordinary experience, with a
[00:02:43] fantastic audience and with many shows recorded
[00:02:46] here at TVR with Tudor Vornicu, from
[00:02:50] Germany, very close, but the Romanian from
[00:02:53] far away also comes, more precisely from California,
[00:02:57] from Silicon Valley, where...
[00:03:00] he has been since the 90s, Nelu Mihai,
[00:03:03] freshly appointed as honorary advisor to
[00:03:08] before resorting the Minister of Energy, Mr. Nelu Mihai
[00:03:11] has a doctorate in computer science
[00:03:14] and I met him at the Romanian Energy Gala a year
[00:03:18] ago, that's right Mr. Nelu Mihai, yes, I remember,
[00:03:21] yes, welcome back, I'm glad to be with
[00:03:25] you. Nelu Mihai, at that
[00:03:29] gala you said: that you are grateful to Romania and you
[00:03:32] came accompanied by one of, attention,
[00:03:35] your professors, you are standing next to a school principal
[00:03:38] who has an extraordinary project with
[00:03:42] the school and about the school he left, that moment was
[00:03:46] impressive, how you wanted to share the joy
[00:03:50] of that recognition from the Romanian state with one
[00:03:54] of your professors. Yes, I think
[00:03:57] it is not only. it is about a generous
[00:04:01] gesture, but it is also a duty to acknowledge those who
[00:04:04] influenced us and perhaps changed our lives at a certain
[00:04:08] moment and I always enjoy mentioning
[00:04:12] those who in one way or
[00:04:15] another contributed to my evolution as a person and as
[00:04:18] a professional. You said that you want to
[00:04:21] help Romania in strategic fields, technology,
[00:04:25] energy and
[00:04:27] but in areas where there is a investments, as you did.
[00:04:31] not only in the United States of America, but also in
[00:04:35] Romania? Practically since other countries, and that you want to give
[00:04:38] back to Romania what you received during your studies at the Faculty of
[00:04:42] Automation and Computers in Bucharest. You
[00:04:45] had a few years of sustained activity at
[00:04:48] the Institute of Physics and Nuclear Engineering in Măgurele
[00:04:52] where you achieved
[00:04:55] some premieres in Romania during those years in the field of computer
[00:04:59] networks. and you will see that here you have something in common
[00:05:02] with Robert Schwarz, Mr.
[00:05:05] Schwarz has a testimony, he came
[00:05:09] with the magazine 2000 plus, a magazine.
[00:05:12] taken, re-edited, a magazine that from
[00:05:16] 1968 until
[00:05:19] 1981 under communism
[00:05:21] worked, was creative, had
[00:05:25] articles, articles that didn't appear then
[00:05:28] appear now, I kept the archive
[00:05:32] that I found in '90 when I became
[00:05:34] director, and I put it away well,
[00:05:38] the archive with the texts written in the years when the magazine was banned,
[00:05:42] so in... the 80s banned by communist censorship and I
[00:05:45] found last year the bag with the files, with the texts
[00:05:49] written then, I had forgotten where I put all the files,
[00:05:53] I found them at home in Sibiu in my parents' house
[00:05:56] and together with Anca Berlogia Boariu, I
[00:05:59] said let's do a project, why with her? because she
[00:06:02] had collected the texts then in the 80s and put them in a
[00:06:06] closet, where did I find them? It's a magazine in
[00:06:10] which we have the articles written then. but there are also
[00:06:13] articles written now by students
[00:06:16] from three German high schools, from Götte in
[00:06:19] Bucharest, Honterus in Brașov and Brokentall in Sibiu, because
[00:06:23] we want to pass on this relay, a school magazine that was
[00:06:27] invented by the illustrious Romanian language professor
[00:06:30] Nicolae Saftu in 1968 and
[00:06:34] which was then taken over by other professors, a few
[00:06:37] enthusiastic ones and by students, a very
[00:06:41] good editorial staff and now. I found them all and
[00:06:44] they live in Japan, in the United States, in Canada, in
[00:06:48] Israel, they came to the launch at
[00:06:51] the Gheote Institute in Bucharest at the beginning of September, from all over the world,
[00:06:55] there were 150 graduates,
[00:06:59] former teachers, professors, it was a,
[00:07:01] it was a festival and a festival obviously with
[00:07:05] music, because a former student Hanno Hofer, with
[00:07:08] his band, Night Loosers, offered
[00:07:11] us a... concert after the launch, it was
[00:07:14] a wonderful evening and I'm very happy that we can talk about
[00:07:18] this project, a project that I did with the Monster Finus
[00:07:21] Association, a project co-financed by the National
[00:07:25] Cultural Fund Administration. It's an extraordinary project and if
[00:07:29] you allow me on the cover, it is
[00:07:32] the former biology professor, Șerban Sârbu, a Sibian,
[00:07:36] former classmate in 4th grade, in general school 16 in
[00:07:39] Sibiu, and then he became a colleague. at in
[00:07:43] the teachers' room, Șervan Sârbu, a very well-known
[00:07:46] speleologist and biologist, together with Cristi Lascu discovered
[00:07:49] at Movile Cave, some creatures,
[00:07:53] which have
[00:07:55] survived for thousands and millions of years
[00:07:59] through chemosynthesis,
[00:08:01] living in a sulfuric
[00:08:03] acid, hostile environment and
[00:08:07] they came into NASA's focus because
[00:08:10] from there the idea developed that something
[00:08:14] similar might be found on Mars, well
[00:08:17] Șerban Sârbu is here
[00:08:20] at a students' carnival, now he's in
[00:08:23] America, but on the cover he's in a
[00:08:27] photo as a journalist, important for us two, but not
[00:08:30] only, in 1984 at a carnival of
[00:08:33] students and teachers, a tradition at the German high school in Bucharest
[00:08:37] and he has a drawing badge with a
[00:08:41] head in a... press, a pressed
[00:08:43] head, head press, so in full communist
[00:08:46] censorship, a very important
[00:08:49] message then and I believed and
[00:08:53] I am convinced that even now it is an equally
[00:08:56] important message, attention, censorship awaits you around
[00:09:00] the corner, we must be very careful, yes, because
[00:09:02] the danger is not only imposed silence, but
[00:09:06] the slow collapse of consciousness and
[00:09:10] truth, a real global network of
[00:09:13] Romanian intelligence, yes, correct, correct, exactly,
[00:09:16] exactly that's what we wanted to bring to the
[00:09:20] attention of our viewers, and
[00:09:23] now it's your turn, Mr. Nelu Mihai, to
[00:09:26] tell us, what are the premieres in Romania and then what you have
[00:09:30] managed to do, look, for so many years, because you have been
[00:09:34] away since '92 and a year ago
[00:09:38] on the stage of the Romanian Energy Gala, you said exactly that
[00:09:41] you... want to do something also
[00:09:44] for
[00:09:47] President Iohannis' visit to San Francisco, I started
[00:09:51] to be much more involved in different Romanian
[00:09:54] projects, especially in the area of
[00:09:58] Cloud Computing, cyber security and
[00:10:01] energy. I am proud that
[00:10:05] in fact I managed to convince
[00:10:08] at first,
[00:10:11] the political system. and then the economic
[00:10:14] about SMRs that are now being implemented
[00:10:18] and Romania is one of the first countries in Europe to adopt
[00:10:21] this technology, it is about small
[00:10:25] nuclear reactors that can be
[00:10:29] implemented much faster, it is known that when a
[00:10:32] nuclear power plant is built it takes a very long time in addition to
[00:10:35] the investment, and they must necessarily be of a certain size,
[00:10:39] these modular reactors are
[00:10:42] of a smaller size, generally
[00:10:45] 50 MW,
[00:10:49] 150, 200 MW and are
[00:10:52] realized much faster, much faster and also with them
[00:10:55] a network can be implemented more easily, if you remember,
[00:10:59] I also said at the gala that Romania needs to
[00:11:02] implement a distributed electricity network, not centralized,
[00:11:06] because distributed systems are much more resilient and
[00:11:10] with these modular nuclear reactors such
[00:11:13] a thing can be implemented, because you can build more,
[00:11:16] in less time and in different
[00:11:19] locations, the most important
[00:11:22] achievement before leaving. What have you
[00:11:25] achieved here in the country? Before leaving Romania, I think the most
[00:11:29] important
[00:11:32] thing is hard to quantify. Probably it was
[00:11:35] bringing for the first time to the Institute of
[00:11:38] Physics, to IFA, in fact, not only to the Institute of Physics and Nuclear Engineering
[00:11:42] the first internet network in Romania in
[00:11:46] 1986, together with
[00:11:49] my mentor, Dr.
[00:11:52] Professor Dr. Paskovic. Also, I
[00:11:56] implemented, probably for the first time
[00:12:00] a real-time operating system in Romania, at that
[00:12:04] time, Romania was under embargo, it could not import
[00:12:07] nuclear equipment of
[00:12:10] high
[00:12:12] precision and high quality and so I
[00:12:15] built a multi-channel
[00:12:18] analyzer
[00:12:20] on IBMPC, finally that may be too
[00:12:23] technical. but probably these
[00:12:27] would be the two, the two achievements that I am somewhat
[00:12:31] proud of and that are also mentioned in various
[00:12:35] specialized articles and those from the recent period
[00:12:38] or from how many decades already
[00:12:42] spent in the United States, over three decades, I have always been
[00:12:46] a contrarian, a rebel, as Academician
[00:12:49] Andrus called me, there are more, so many
[00:12:53] things that I am probably most proud of. is a
[00:12:57] real-time operating system called Vertexmc which
[00:13:00] is
[00:13:04] the nucleus of the Hubble telescope and which has been implemented in
[00:13:07] over a billion
[00:13:08] devices
[00:13:12] also together with another Romanian, Professor
[00:13:16] Lazar from Columbia University, I was among the pioneers
[00:13:19] of the current called software-defined
[00:13:23] networking, that is. networking which
[00:13:25] is, in which the center of gravity is more on
[00:13:29] software, cyber security
[00:13:32] systems, in general on the part of digital networks
[00:13:36] for intercepting high-
[00:13:38] speed traffic,
[00:13:40] multi-cloud operating systems and so
[00:13:44] on, so
[00:13:46] in general being in Silicon
[00:13:48] Valley,
[00:13:51] it was interesting that a session recently
[00:13:54] in Romania. about entrepreneurs, an entrepreneur said
[00:13:57] tell us what problems you have and we will
[00:14:00] solve them. Well, that is not the attitude of an entrepreneur, an
[00:14:04] entrepreneur finds the problems and
[00:14:07] solves them and also wants to
[00:14:10] change the world or contribute a little to
[00:14:14] social improvement and civilization, so you need a much
[00:14:18] bigger dream to achieve smaller things. Mihaela Crăciun
[00:14:21] I would continue here in the same vein.
[00:14:25] how long does it theoretically
[00:14:28] and practically take to transform the
[00:14:31] Prahova Valley or the Izei Valley or the Târnava Valley into a
[00:14:35] Romanian Silicon Valley. it's interesting that a
[00:14:38] journalist gives the correct
[00:14:41] solution, because these processing centers should not
[00:14:45] be made in Bucharest, Ploiești, Sibiu
[00:14:48] or in other big cities,
[00:14:52] lower temperature, because... these systems
[00:14:56] need air
[00:14:58] conditioning,
[00:15:01] first of all there is a need for funding
[00:15:05] for such a thing, there is a need for an attitude
[00:15:08] I would say of the business environment first of all, because
[00:15:11] many times the business environment
[00:15:15] expects the state to help
[00:15:18] it, but an attitude of the business environment to help it, not to hinder
[00:15:22] it, I would add Robert Schwarz,
[00:15:33] many times they tell how they stumbled over obstacles
[00:15:37] raised by the state, they coming with
[00:15:41] a private
[00:15:42] conversion,
[00:15:45] this is not a very good point of view, because the state is indicated
[00:15:48] to invest when it comes to
[00:15:51] vanguard, unconventional projects,
[00:15:55] the private sector is
[00:15:58] much better when it comes to technological projects
[00:16:02] and a Silicon Valley, I never
[00:16:06] liked this. Let's make another Silicon Valley, each
[00:16:09] country has its own characteristics, but of course
[00:16:13] everyone follows the Silicon Valley model. So, there is a need
[00:16:16] for funding, there is a need
[00:16:19] for a closer collaboration
[00:16:23] between, I would say, not necessarily,
[00:16:26] Romanian companies and American companies, but between
[00:16:30] Romanian companies and Silicon Valley, and there
[00:16:34] is probably also a need for a little political will, because
[00:16:37] in these, in such projects, in Romania
[00:16:41] there is still a need for state aid, at least
[00:16:44] legislative, if not financial. Mihaela Crăciun
[00:16:47] spoke about the transfer of expertise, I think it's
[00:16:50] the easiest thing to achieve, it's harder to find
[00:16:53] partnerships, as you said, between
[00:16:57] companies from Romania and Silicon Valley, or perhaps even
[00:17:00] some Twinning Projects, that is twinning
[00:17:03] projects that will work
[00:17:07] together. with the support of the respective states, but
[00:17:10] far from the political sphere, that is,
[00:17:14] based on the applied file, how many more decades
[00:17:17] do we have to wait, please answer us, as in personal
[00:17:20] life, the best relationships
[00:17:23] are always made at a personal level, so all these things must start
[00:17:27] and we discussed this before the show, with the collaborations
[00:17:31] of business people, technology
[00:17:34] people. Romania with equivalents from
[00:17:38] other countries, not only from the United States. My opinion is that Romania must
[00:17:41] improve and increase its cooperation
[00:17:45] with the European Union, much more. But everything starts
[00:17:50] relationships, certain connections
[00:17:54] are created, scientific interests are created, material
[00:17:58] interests, trust, and
[00:18:01] these can generate projects
[00:18:05] that gain momentum. There is
[00:18:08] always. Yes, there is this dictum divide
[00:18:12] and conquer, yes, you start with smaller things, you show
[00:18:16] that you have succeeded and then you start to evolve
[00:18:20] to larger things, so my advice,
[00:18:22] and once again, I have noticed that sometimes advice is not well
[00:18:26] received in Romania, is that Romania's
[00:18:30] evolution depends very much on the interaction
[00:18:33] between Romanian minds, people.
[00:18:39] of science and Romanian politicians personally with their
[00:18:42] equivalents from other countries,
[00:18:45] to
[00:18:49] this intergovernmental
[00:18:51] relationship.
[00:18:54] I would like now to move abruptly to a topic
[00:18:57] that concerns us all and
[00:19:00] the main reason
[00:19:03] why you have returned, not
[00:19:06] oscillated. in fact, you are both here and there, is
[00:19:10] the other field for which you have expertise after
[00:19:13] computers, that of
[00:19:17] energy,
[00:19:19] the price we pay for energy in
[00:19:22] the country and what our viewers
[00:19:25] say, I don't know in Germany, if here the kW
[00:19:29] is more expensive than in Germany Robert, yes, surely the price
[00:19:33] is fluctuating, but if we look at European statistics we see that in
[00:19:36] Romania much more is paid for example than
[00:19:40] in Germany, in the Netherlands, in Ireland and
[00:19:43] it's clear that nobody understands
[00:19:46] why, because Romania produces
[00:19:50] electricity, sometimes exports
[00:19:53] and it's very good that it helps the Republic of Moldova, after
[00:19:57] that aggression by Russia against Ukraine was launched,
[00:20:01] this collaboration works, it goes
[00:20:04] on, but still. the price paid in
[00:20:07] Romania is quite high and
[00:20:10] the explanations do not always
[00:20:13] sound very clear, they are not
[00:20:17] very convincing, let's see, with your
[00:20:21] expertise and experience, Mr. Nelu
[00:20:24] Mihai. So,
[00:20:27] unfortunately, the explanations are very complex, it's not that simple
[00:20:31] and always, we must report the price
[00:20:35] of energy, of the kilowatt hour, in this case
[00:20:39] we are talking about electricity at the average
[00:20:41] level of the population, because we cannot report the prices
[00:20:44] of energy in Romania
[00:20:48] compared to Germany. So there are more ways to
[00:20:52] improve or solve
[00:20:55] this situation in my opinion,
[00:20:59] one of them, as I said, is
[00:21:01] for Romania to switch from
[00:21:04] this centralized network,
[00:21:08] to a distributed network. What does this mean? It means that instead
[00:21:11] of having a few hundred energy producers,
[00:21:14] we have tens of thousands of energy producers,
[00:21:18] in which all possible sources should be
[00:21:21] used, both gas and nuclear industry,
[00:21:25] solar industry, wind industry,
[00:21:28] also, based on my experience at this
[00:21:31] moment, we must move to
[00:21:35] a higher quality of the energy system, also in Latin
[00:21:38] there is the dictum non multa sed multum,
[00:21:41] yes, so we must make sure that these energy
[00:21:45] systems are much more efficient, to generate
[00:21:48] energy when needed. For example,
[00:21:51] we don't generate enough energy in the morning and I
[00:21:55] understood that we import from Bulgarians, when in fact
[00:21:58] we have over 2 GW of solar
[00:22:00] systems which, however, due to the fact that they don't
[00:22:03] have the best technology, start producing much
[00:22:07] later, also I have seen
[00:22:10] that at noon we sell to
[00:22:13] Hungary for next to nothing, again, because
[00:22:16] the energy systems are not calibrated correctly to produce. that in
[00:22:20] a distributed way it's about that Gaussian
[00:22:23] curve,
[00:22:26] and there is also a cause, I would
[00:22:29] say, at European level that the Ministry
[00:22:33] of Energy has specified, it is about the connection between
[00:22:37] Romania and the rest of the states in the European
[00:22:41] Union, through Hungary and Austria, which is not
[00:22:44] what it should be and which needs to be resolved. I don't think
[00:22:47] the problem of the kilowatt hour
[00:22:55] is the explanation, there are also other problems of distribution
[00:22:57] price, price that is not exactly
[00:23:01] correct, but these are businesses it's hard to
[00:23:05] you gave a positive turn to Divide
[00:23:09] and conquer earlier, but in this case it's more like the negative
[00:23:14] divided and as long as it remains divided you can
[00:23:17] control it better,
[00:23:21] yes,
[00:23:24] normally the President of Romania or the Prime Minister or
[00:23:27] the Minister of Energy should have a computer
[00:23:30] screen, a dashboard, I don't know what the word is in Romanian, in
[00:23:34] which at every moment to see how much is produced in
[00:23:38] Romania from each, each energy
[00:23:41] source. Let's hope that this
[00:23:44] will be implemented, it can be implemented also by.
[00:23:48] and again, there is also in
[00:23:51] energy this part
[00:23:54] of the world,
[00:23:58] of private businesses and state-owned enterprises, there must
[00:24:02] be someone who correlates these
[00:24:04] two, two parts of the economic system that
[00:24:08] sometimes do not oscillate on the same frequency.
[00:24:12] It is one of the areas
[00:24:15] that affects us, but there are others when
[00:24:18] I say in the
[00:24:20] end you come the same way, you oscillate between Germany
[00:24:23] and Romania and many times when
[00:24:27] you enter the grocery stores in Romania
[00:24:30] you leave an amount,
[00:24:34] I don't know, maybe even greater or equal to what you
[00:24:37] would leave for those respective products in another
[00:24:41] place, yes, I oscillate between Berlin and
[00:24:43] Bucharest and
[00:24:45] obviously
[00:24:48] when I go here to Bucharest, in
[00:24:51] the various supermarkets, but also in
[00:24:54] the market, there are products that are much cheaper than in
[00:24:57] Germany, but there are some basic products that are much more
[00:25:01] expensive and you wonder why, because they are produced in
[00:25:04] Romania and are sold at a price that
[00:25:07] you don't find in Berlin or
[00:25:11] London, we are talking about these, of course here, sorry those who
[00:25:15] produce them are our parents, grandparents
[00:25:18] no no. our viewers, some of
[00:25:22] them left for a while and those five years turned
[00:25:25] into 10, into 20 and it would be
[00:25:29] good if sometimes some prices
[00:25:32] were corrected, I'm not saying from the government or
[00:25:35] from the center to be corrected, there needs to be some
[00:25:39] correlation between purchasing power and prices in
[00:25:43] supermarkets, these are economic mechanisms that sometimes
[00:25:47] work and sometimes work even in the interest
[00:25:50] of the buyer, but sometimes
[00:25:54] the prices are totally aberrant. It's a topic
[00:25:57] that I'm sure is discussed a lot and public
[00:26:00] debates are needed. to bring some
[00:26:04] peace and order, because people are dissatisfied,
[00:26:08] they buy, they buy, but they grumble,
[00:26:11] it's good for everyone to be happy world, you were at
[00:26:15] the Repatriot
[00:26:17] summit, Mr. Nelu Mihai, and that's exactly why I wanted
[00:26:21] to discuss this transfer of
[00:26:25] expertise and about Romanian professionals
[00:26:28] from all fields from abroad who
[00:26:32] a... as you do, as Robert
[00:26:35] Schwarz does, I come back
[00:26:38] to give back, many would want to come back, no,
[00:26:42] not everyone necessarily has to come back, what needs
[00:26:45] to be done is some will come back because
[00:26:48] there are better opportunities in
[00:26:51] Romania, but it is important to create this
[00:26:54] network, as in your magazine, this network of
[00:26:58] Romanian intelligence, regardless of whether people want to
[00:27:01] come back or not, because Romania can be helped
[00:27:04] by those who don't come back
[00:27:08] to Romania, they settled in Germany or the United States or France
[00:27:12] or another country, but Repatriots
[00:27:15] are trying to do something in this
[00:27:18] area, more from a marketing
[00:27:22] point of view, so to speak, they aim to become more
[00:27:25] active, but it is an extraordinary resource that
[00:27:29] Romania must use and there must
[00:27:32] be receptivity from the Romanians here to
[00:27:35] interact with the Romanians who have left and vice
[00:27:39] versa, the Romanians who have left with the Romanians here, have you
[00:27:43] found this receptivity,
[00:27:45] because as I said, I discovered you
[00:27:49] last year at this gala of Romanian
[00:27:53] energy, there have been other such
[00:27:56] events, they are still continuing with Romanian
[00:27:59] researchers from abroad, with doctors, with all
[00:28:02] professionals, I try to remain positive,
[00:28:05] but, but the answer, but the answer is yes and
[00:28:08] no, so yes, there are environments where
[00:28:12] it is clear that collaboration is desired, both scientific
[00:28:16] and business, but there are
[00:28:18] also
[00:28:20] environments that are not so positive in this collaboration,
[00:28:24] it is important that we, those who have
[00:28:27] positive intentions to help Romania, overcome
[00:28:31] those or convince those who are skeptical from
[00:28:34] this point of view, I want to make a parallel to the prices of,
[00:28:38] so the truth is the following, that prices
[00:28:40] have increased everywhere, including in the United States, I don't know if in
[00:28:44] Germany, but if we talk about the prices of agricultural
[00:28:47] products, Romania should be an
[00:28:50] agricultural power in Europe and can
[00:28:53] become so, we were talking about Romania becoming a
[00:28:56] European power in energy, similarly, it should normally be
[00:29:00] also in agriculture. I am
[00:29:02] not a specialist in this field, I don't know what should be done,
[00:29:05] but I think the Romanian people have the
[00:29:09] necessary resources and correctly supported from a legislative
[00:29:13] and financial point of view, they could
[00:29:15] surely, there are European programs that meet
[00:29:19] the demands and needs of
[00:29:22] producers, but from producer
[00:29:25] to consumer is a long road,
[00:29:29] it's another story, there are a few
[00:29:32] extraordinary documentaries about agricultural
[00:29:36] producers, about cabbage or potatoes, who
[00:29:39] refuse even today, 35 years after
[00:29:43] the political change in Romania, to associate, because they have
[00:29:47] this trauma, this negative
[00:29:50] experience from the period of the communist dictatorship, when
[00:29:53] the agricultural production association,
[00:29:55] the cooperative, was blatant swindling, now
[00:29:59] they prefer to produce each for himself. A village
[00:30:03] with 400 farmers and each has his own tractor,
[00:30:07] so it's crazy to have 400 tractors in a small village, they don't
[00:30:11] associate, there the politicians should come and convince
[00:30:15] people that it's good to take advantage of
[00:30:18] cooperation, of collaboration, and it's a topic that we also
[00:30:22] address, because there are these mixed
[00:30:25] societies, I have been president of the German-Romanian
[00:30:29] society in Berlin for two years, we go on...
[00:30:32] political, economic, social, cultural
[00:30:36] topics, we have extraordinary cultural projects, but I think
[00:30:39] it would be good to concentrate on
[00:30:42] these topics as well, it's harder to find people who talk
[00:30:46] about the difficulties and about the possible successes that
[00:30:50] you can have, topics, topics that we at public television, at
[00:30:53] Romanian television, bring to attention every week in
[00:30:57] traditional shows, whether we're talking about village life, or we're talking about
[00:31:01] the farm show.